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[Wind Tempest]

hey well Destiny is basically a re-run of the past with new characters, think about it, they didn't even bother filling the plot holes, how is Kira, a Co-Ordinator Cagalli's brother, who is a Natural, and in the last few episodes, suddenly everyone had newtype powers, and does lacus have SEED? she appears to but she doesn't do anything with it, so people assume she does, hopefully Eternity will start to fill some holes >.>

Apparently, Lacus' SEED ability allows her to talk all philisophically in a monotone dialogue, that and look all serious in her pedastool. I hated Destiny because it just did n't do anything good. I could list them, but I would not want to go into flaming.

[lemonOFdoom]

lol i thought Lacus talked like that anyway

[Mad_Barber]

are there going to be re-used animations in this mod? (sort-of a Destiny joke if you know what I'm getting at here)

[Wind Tempest]

Only in tranformations and the obligitory random battles that you quickly skim over to see whats up.

[lemonOFdoom]

I doubt there will be any smooth transformations, the homeworld 2 engine ISN'T exactly anything new, still, i would hope for better accuracy of the models than anything flashy, I just want funnels XD

[Dyson]

I hope they dont fill anything and sunrise makes a side story like 8th MS Team or Stardust memories

man, I really hate destiny :S

[CQD]

Me too. But I will not let go any chance to play a cool looking mod :P

BTW, full functional funnels are technically Cataclysm swarmers with strange attack pattern and ultra high speed.

Is it possible to make a ship a swarmer(or something simular, like a missile with beam weapon) without scripting work in homeworld2?

[Dyson]

Mods and shows are something 110%different and in this case i hope so

Mybe its posible, in 0079/0083 mod they have posted screens of a MA surrounded by its funnels, elmeth I think was her name

[CQD]

Yeah, but it is possible that those BITs are just fighters only Elmeth can build.

To my knowledge, no mod team has officially release things like Swarmers, only few tests with heavy scripting work. I has been around 9CCN for a long time(yes I read chinese), they are really good at modeling, but not scripting.

If no one can find an alternative way to implement a funnel, it's very possible that the best funnel we can got is a funnel-shaped fighter. It's acceptable to me, but I hope it could be better.

[Couger8116]

i've tried to swarp the NewShipType.controllerType="Missile" on the missile file to NewShipType.controllerType="ship" before but that doesn't work, the best i know of is the Hive_Carrier_Mod (by Beelzebuddy)

[milaoshu04]

I don't know if it's possible to add weapons to missiles, but as far as we try we failed, if it's in Hw1 that'll be much easier to make finnels~~

[lemonOFdoom]

well i don't really mind what the final product is like, as long as it :

1. Acts at least a little bit like funnels
2. Looks like funnels
3. Smells like funnels
4. Kills Zaku

then i'll be content

[Dyson]

NOTHING can kill a zaku, well, hes in every Gundam Show and is even more recognizable than Gundams

I want to see a Zaku with Fin Funnels =P

[lemonOFdoom]

theres providence zaku? oh well, its true, zaku are like ants, you kill a whole anthill of them and theres another anthill next to it, where the hell do they keep finding the metals?!

arrgghhh I wish at least one of the mods would be released, i'm really anxious to play them, both gundam mods seem to be really high quality

[Dyson]

They sure are great...

Im not worried about metals, im more worried about pilots, coordinator cloning bats must be working at full capacity like this was red alert2

[lemonOFdoom]

lol the way you put it, it sounds like Co-Ordinators roll off an assembly line saying "Yuri is master"

[Wind Tempest]

Lol, the term Coordinators are actually embrios externally fertalized and then genetically modified to have enhansed capabilities. These embios are then inserted into a women's uterus and then undergoes a normal process. So there is no "Yuri is my master" stuff since they have to live their lives normally. These is also a few references stating that this process is also causing a lower birth rate among Coordinators so no mass production.

And some humorous trivia, some parents use the same process for some of their children. Although it is not to the same extreme as Zaft did, they are mostly used for genetic illnesses(such as diabetes, heart disease, and asthma) and even then it still needs to be refined before it becomes more useful.

[blade_wing]

hmms.. is there a download available..? this mod looks great..!

[lemonOFdoom]

Hey joni the line buddy, we all want a taste of this mod

[dakin24]

I am sure that some place this has been mentioned or suggested...but i'll throw it out there any ways...Homeworld 1 had the drone frigates which deployed small drones that formed a sphere around the ship and then would engage enemy targets. Not exactly fin funnels, but in a fashion very similar. I have no idea if Homeworld 2 has the capability to do this, but seeing that the first one had it in the game, it might be a doable solution for fin funnels

[Dyson]

Funnels? Hell NO! not in this mod, See what freedom2pwnagemode did with everything on screen? I dont want it to ruin the balance of the mod :S

i know coordinators dont exit from cloning bats saying Yuri... but they say Patrick Zala... Lacuss kline... ejem, just kidding. In gundam seed they say ONLY coordinators can pilot MS because they are super elites and thats the reason why they are so few in comparison with eartlings, and after, in destiny, they say there are fertility problems among coordinators or something like that, cant remember exactly the episode(i should be pucking, ejem) and after, at the end of the series, hundreds and thousands of coordinators appears in battle on MS, capital ships, every where... They really look like simple clones or they were just slacking from combat... ¬_¬

I hate destiny, hope stargazer or eternity makes the show better, and I think they will since stargazer is made by sunrise.

may Anavel Gatos spirit be with U...

[Couger8116]

stargazer is too short and crams everything in, still verde buster is cool, can't really work out the storyline though, i dn't knw japanese

[Dyson]

yeah, stargazer is short, but I think its the prelude to Seeds next season. I dont speak, read or understand a word of japanese, but U can download the fansubed versions of Stargazer.

Anyway, duel and buster looks improved since seed, but their pilots kill their coolness, in my opinion, hell! duel gets beaten by 3 bacue(Hope I spelled it right) while strike Noir beats them in a blink, and I dont think Noir is much better than Duel and Buster(great covering "sniping" mate)

[Wind Tempest]

Keep in mind the skill of the pilots. The Pilot of Noir is a Enhanced, a soldier trained since childhood and enhanced with drugs. The pilot of Blue Duel is a Natural. Think like Master Chief, only without the cybernetics.

[lemonOFdoom]

mwah Lacus FTW

[Dyson]

I dont think hes an extended human like stelar, hes not out of control, hes not drugged or needs a monitor like Mwu was with stelar and her team, I just think hes the "star" of the show like Shiro Amada or Kou Uraki, they were good enough, but not the best or newtypes, they just had the "script power"

By the way, whats the meaning of "FTW"? sorry, but im not english and I dont know many acronisms ^_^U

[lemonOFdoom]

FTW = for the win, at first i thought it was WTF backwards, but yeah, btw, did any of the SEED MSV's get the same treatment as Destiny? Like how Kira stamps on Shinn's ass with freedom until shinn gets angry?

[Wind Tempest]

He is a Extended. Stellar and CO are failed extended who recieved fatal side effects from it. Watch the second episode again, I won't explain it.

@Lemon: What do you mean by get the same treatment as Destiny?

[lemonOFdoom]

what i mean is the "never been used before technique in the gundam series", how a new main character is introduced, and suddenly the old main character comes back and casts a shadow on the new main character

[Wind Tempest]

As far as I know, there really is no over shadowing in the MSV story. All the characters have their own things to deal with that coincide with the main story. Ie: While Kiras off kicking ass and taking names, they are off fighting in other regions.

[lemonOFdoom]

lol so is kira and shinn or anyone from the tv series actually ever mentioned somehow?

[Dyson]

Well I tought all the extended were the same as stellarand her group, and noir pilot was just the star as he was not overdrugged, calm, disciplinated but brain washed. any way im being a bit off topic ^_^U

tahnks lemonofdoom for the aclaration

but now after son many screenies Id like to have some feedback about the mod, whats going to be included, the aiming of the mod, desired gameplay... I wish i could read or write chinese to ask ^_^U

[BrianGeneral]

Already saw the pics at some Chinese forums but......Oh well.
But I doubt how to create Destiny's WoL effects since it'll be hard to......

BTW, things in GSD:
Mechanics=fair/good
Personalities=fair
Music=Great
But Plot+Storyline=SUCKS. That's my feeling about it.

[Wind Tempest]

@Lemon: Yes, much like how in StarGazer, you get references to the Destiny Timeline and meet old faces(Azreal in one of the flashbacks). During the msv manga the pilot of Red Frame saves Kira from the self destruction of Aegis during that KIRA ATHRUN battle. In the red frame MSV short they had for a brief moment the shield of Aegis.

[lemonOFdoom]

Brian, Destiny had bad mechanics, they were the least bit real, if you want good mechanics, watch the first gundams and compare them with destiny, the difference is enormous

[Wind Tempest]

The reason why the mechanics were fair/good was because they were directly ripped from a preexisting MS design. Name one and I will be able to find a similar suit.

[BrianGeneral]

In fact, I also know that their mech designs are copying those from the past, but it's still no use to compare with those in the past as they're not in the same universe.

I particularly like the setting of Destiny(NOT the anime itself), too bad the worst storyline ever makes it become scrap.

[blade_wing]

Well... I'm not entirely a Gundam know-it-all. But it'll be fun watching this mod. Was a little disappointed with the other because it was retro and lacked the Gundam SEED stuff. Also it was buggy.....

[Dyson]

The other is a bit retro, yes, but It was one of the best mods around. Its simple but with very good GFX.

i could easily say its the best mod around, and V3.0 will blow asses i only hope those coding problems are solved ^_^U

[lemonOFdoom]

lol providence seemed pretty original?

[Eric072691]

That was, but not the Legend or was it the Destiny whichever one it was, they looked almost the same.

[wujunfeng]

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[Dyson]

Providence looked like the gundam that anavel gato stole on stardust memories, just changed the nuke bazooka for funnels.

BTW, great Minerva model

[Guyffon]

Anyway guys dun want to sound like a geek, but the funnels in gundam seed are called dragoons.

[Dyson]

And "Jims" (GMs) are called daggers, and Amuro Ray is called Kira Yamato... its normal when u copy something, change the name, no more, no less. Well, they didnt change the name of the zaku or Gouf

So, a Funnel will allways be a funnel

[Wind Tempest]

Dragoon is the name for the system that controls the Funnels.

[lemonOFdoom]

lol DRAGOON is a system not the funnels, looks like you got outgeeked o.O anyway, did providence resemble something? can you gimme a ms name?

[Guyffon]

If it were up to me, I would say providence resembled a turtle on steroids, but thats just me. Anyway in the seed world they still refer to them as DRAGOONs even though dragoon is a system. Funnel or DRAGOON, whatever floats your boat just was trying to explain so that pure seed fans whom never watched the UC timeline of Gundam will know what we are talking about.

[Wind Tempest]

Providence has the color scheme of the Zeong(Char's original Mobile Armor at the end of the one year war). The backpack looks like a miniature Alpha Aziel without the boosters from Char's Counter Attack. Providence is fairly original in design or at least it is done really well without making it too obvious as to what it was based off of(like most of the Gundam Seed Units).

[BrianGeneral]

Are you sure Providence's backpack looks like Alpha Arziel? At least AA stored its funnels inside its body
Anyway, I like Legend better then comparing with Providence, maybe I just hate non-symmetrical backpacks and its colour......

In fact, there're many GS/GSD fans in Hong Kong who are totally got UC out of their mind. I guess they don't even know anything from UC at all if the Z Movies weren't shown.