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    Tiger Ace.

    Why cant we get a different model for the Tiger Ace? Maybe have a Tank Commander sitting in the hatch on the turret and maybe some camo netting, antenna's, or fuel canisters on the side.

    Anyone else like this idea?

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    I think its a good Idea, that or have the same model painted differently w/ more battle scars the info on the Tiger ace says it has has EXTENSIVE frontline experience.
    Last edited by lordkosc; 12th Sep 06 at 12:56 AM.

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    Good idea, indeed!

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    lol you would love to let them know an Ace is coming rather than a newbie tiger? Really scare the crap outta them

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    lol you would love to let them know an Ace is coming rather than a newbie tiger? Really scare the crap outta them
    That would rock! It would install the FEAR into ur opponent sorta like the Howlitzers firing off do, or the Neblewerfer does....

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    Yeah, something more special looking for the big bad tiger ace would be nice, even if just to differentiate it from normal ones so certain people don't whinge when "omg teh tigar si 2 tuf"

    Like me, as I whinge on a dialy basis about anything. dam tuf tgars lol nub taktics roflburgers etc.
    Dammit, not again!

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    WildeCard
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    Mm! Tank commander in the hatch would be an excellent addition.. Well, as long as he couldn't get killed. xD

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    NewBee
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    I agree with you guys about the tiger ace.
    Besides diffrent skin shouldnt be a promblem to add in a patch or so.

    Just for historical records...

    On July 7th of 1943, single Tiger tank commanded by SS-Oberscharfuehrer Franz Staudegger from 2nd Platoon of 13th Panzer Company of 1st SS Panzer Grenadier Division "LSSAH" engaged Soviet group of some 50 T-34 tanks around Psyolknee (southern sector of the Kursk salient). Staudegger used up his entire ammunition after destroying some 22 Soviet tanks, while the rest retreated. For his achievement, Franz Staudegger was awarded the Knight's Cross. On August 8th of 1944, single Tiger commanded by SS-Unterscharfuehrer Willi Fey from the 1st Company of sSSPzAbt 102, engaged a British tank column destroying some 14 out of 15 Shermans, followed by one more later in the day using his last two rounds of ammunition. sSSPzAbt 102 lost all of its Tigers during fighting in Normandy but reported 227 Allied tanks destroyed during the period of 6 weeks.


    Over 10 Tiger tank commanders had over 100 kills on their account, including: Johannes Bölter with 139+ Kills, Otto Carius with 150+ Kills, Kurt Knispel with 168 Kills, and Michael Wittmann with 138 Kills.
    I am glad there is only 1 Tiger Ace per player in CoH ^_-

    Cheers,

    NewBee.

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    Reckon a KonigsTiger (Tiger MkII) would fit in well with the ace's increased durability over the normal Tigers. Kinda combines the heavy armour and 88 gun of the Tiger with the advantages of the Panthers sloped armour.

    It looks suitably impressive.

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    I somehow doubt that ingame anybody will ever reach the score of that tank comanders.

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    Doomtooth
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    Personally i think the tiger ace should be modeled after the tiger II. That would be sick:nod:

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    I personally think they should remove the Tiger Ace and replace it with the King Tiger. It would create more of a differentiation between the best units of the Terror and Blitzkrieg doctrines.

    Knowing Relic they probably did starting coding the King Tiger, then decided they couldn't be bothered and left it unfinished.

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    kinda hoping the model is already somewhere in the game.. bit like a 'boss' objective in one of the missions.

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    I personally think they should remove the Tiger Ace and replace it with the King Tiger. It would create more of a differentiation between the best units of the Terror and Blitzkrieg doctrines.
    I would Sooo love that

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    Doomtooth
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    If you think about it the terror tree is about terror and nothing would be quite a frightening as seeing a King tiger roll out there.

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    Sir Robin
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    Personally I think the Tiger Ace should be in a King Tiger. However, isn't the timeframe of CoH slightly before the King Tiger's service entry?I know its a minor point but still...

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    Ant991
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    The King Tiger was first used in combat in august 1944, seven months before the pershing first saw combat. Timeframe shouldn't really be a problem. Personally I'd love to see something to seperate the Tiger and Tiger Ace in appeareance, whether it was a change to King Tiger or just a different model or skin for the Tiger Ace. They're the only two units in the game with the same appearance, which seems wrong to me.

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    Unlike the human characters in the game, a Tank does not need the 3-month development to animate all of its movements. I would be totally for a change to the Tiger Ace to make it look different than a regular Tiger and would be tickled if they made the Tiger Ace a King.

    It's in the realm of possibility so who knows if it won't happen a patch or two.

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    Why not have a model of a Knights Cross Holder standing in the commander's hatch of the "Tiger Ace" model?

    For an idle animation, he could survey the terrain with binoculars and when the main gun fires he could cover his ears. That would look really cool

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    hvypetals
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    yep

    surprised nobody mentioned it yet.

    why not have white stripes on the gun barrel of the 88 just like they really did to designate the kills that made him an ace

    maybe a little teddy bear tied to the mantel or some funky east front camo patterns

    the puma model didnt have the turret mounted mg so maybe the ace should be the other model that did so the CO can blast infantry

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    Victory rings! *smacks forehead* Simple and effective and requires the least amount of effort to implement

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    FalseMyrmidon
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordkosc
    I think its a good Idea, that or have the same model painted differently w/ more battle scars the info on the Tiger ace says it has has EXTENSIVE frontline experience.
    The crew has extensive frontline experience, not necessarily the tank.

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    ...

    Dummies 8P The Tiger ace model is skinned differently to the Blitz version. It isn't very easy to notice (even I can't remember the details) but I remember seeing the iron cross on the Tiger Ace.

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    /me performs thread necromancy

    The singleplayer campaign Tiger Ace has a different (and better looking) skin. I wonder, why doesn't the multiplayer Tiger Ace use it?

    If someone made a mini-mod replacing the multiplayer Tiger Ace skin with the campaign one, would it be playable in multiplayer?

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    If the Skin setup is similar to Dawn of War, then yes, You could replace a number of skins and play online.

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    how long would it take a modder to make a King Tiger skin. pretty please:lonely:

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    Well, the King Tiger wasn't just a Tiger with a paintjob. It was a totally different tank. It was much larger, had sloped front armor, and had much thicker armor.

    King Tiger


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    For some reason, the Tiger II doesn't look as impressive as Tiger I to me.

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    Yep, I like the look of the Tiger I more too. Looks more beastly. The King Tiger is definitely stronger, though.

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    If somebody tell's me in what sub dir the single player tiger texture is at i can extract it and place it in the texture map of the "normal" (Multiplayer?) texture dir for the tiger.

    I am searching all the maps inside the sga file's now...but i am getting impatiend and bired realy quick.

    Update:

    The 2 tigers do got there own map structure in the texture dir.
    See this pick of the structure:


    If we could find out where the texture(skin) of the tiger from the single player mission is then we could place it in the tiger ace map.

    Did the tiger from the singleplayer hunt the tiger ace mission realy looked difrent? i could not remember.
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    KlavoHunter
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    Yes, it had this gigantic winged tank and stuff done on it in white paint.

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    And it had a black and grey paintjob.

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    I think that each tiger ace should be named, so when a tiger ace appears the german players speakers blare... MICHAEL WHITMAN HAS ENTERED THE BATTLE!

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    You can't put Wittman in the game and still have it balanced.
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    And it would get a bit silly if there were three Wittmanns driving around.

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    So anybody a idee where i should look for the tiger single player skin?

    Update:
    Just checked the difrence between the Tiger from shultz and the normal tiger.

    Its not only the texture/skins that is difrent.
    There is also some stuf on the tiger from shultz that is not on the normal multiplayer tigers.

    Open hatch, those extra armour things(That look like spare parts for tracks), difrent paintjob.
    Last edited by ghodan; 30th Sep 06 at 12:14 PM.

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    holymoly
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    my only problem is tigers/aces dont get a MG gunner... tiger... understandable... ace? comon, even if they do no damage they would look cool

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    Delta_Assault
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    Personally, I think they should replace the Tiger Ace with Hitler in a Mechanized Battlesuit. Nothing's more terrifying then that.

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    You mean the Mk.IX with the quad chainguns? That would be awesome, but then we'd have to give the Allies B.J. Blazkowicz to counter it.

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    they could use that tiger with a marking on it from the singleplayer campaign

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    Valkyr
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    I think that they wanted the tiger ace from the campaing, maybe they made a mistake and put the same skin as the normal tiger in the german playable faction , other way it is stupid to design an Skin for the Campaing tiger ace and then in multiplayer change it, the tiger ace from the Campaing is the correct one because it is not called or produced in a base, it appears at the beggining of the mission using the skin that for some reason they forgot to use in the playable faction. So maybe it is a bug

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    Havoc01
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    Relic should replace the Tiger Ace with the King Tiger, it is much more fitting to the terror tree. Because right now, its just a tiger with better stats, not that cool.
    King Tiger:

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    Yeah the tiger ACE was pretty cool ing single player, it had smoke launchers also a longer range more damage and better armour.

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    I think Chuck Norris should sit in the hatch. Just to show how badass the Tiger Ace is

    Well it could use something anyway - it never seems to look as impressive as it should.

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