DoW: Relic, plz read!

[MoschBoy]

i know, rarely anybody plays DoW anymore, but lately, due to the competive disaster of DC, i have started playing DoW again - only to see that the major balance problems of 1.4 never have been adressed by a mini patch....

1. eldar BL - still too strong, dmg stats need to go down slightly
2. defilers - they cost more and take 60 sec to build, but they AC dmg to all targets is still simply insane and their claw dmg vs light buildings is beyond good and evil.

also: *storm boys could need a build time reduction of about 5 sec.
*scout accuracy on the move to 80%


thats everything that comes to my mind atm - those changes shouldnt be too difficult to acomplish (implentet in, lets say, the DC 1.1 patch....).

if someone else has any screaming DoW balance issues post, maybe they can patch the game along with DC (really, just a tiny tiny patch).

[Searaven]

As someone who plays original DoW regularly I have to say that BL plat damage is not that bad. Maybe a reduction against vehicle_light or something, along with a bit less HP, but without fire dragons there really is no other AV option, other than FPs which only do AV as a soft counter.

There's quite a few other issues though. FPs are horribly cheesy when spammed and still need to come just abit later IMO - they're basically late tier 2, while the stuff you need to take them down (like laspreds) are tier 3. Defilers, yes, also still a bit too strong. Dreadnoughts are also ridiculously tough and take forever to take down considering their cost.

Other problems exist, but these are the more prominent ones.

[philgreg]

WA and DC contains thew solutions to these problems - i cant see why relic would make a patch when one exists on the shelves.. why would they, it would simply reduce sales - hence they neevr did it back then, and ehnce they wont do it in the future.

[Searaven]

DC and WA are just as imbalanced, if not more so. Some of us still enjoy the gameplay style of the original and prefer it over the newer ones (if you don't think WA and DC are drastically different from the original, well, you're wrong). One would hope, given that they actually have these forums (read: Dawn of War / Winter Assault Multiplayer Balance Issues) that there would be some chance of them actually doing something about it and fixing these old issues some time.

How would it reduce sales? That doesn't make sense in the least. It wouldn't be difficult at all for them to include a few changes on the side for DoW/WA in the next patch, it isn't like they have to code or translate anything new, just a few stat tweaks here and there, and if you don't think that's easy, just look at all the mods that do it.

[MoschBoy]

As someone who plays original DoW regularly I have to say that BL plat damage is not that bad. Maybe a reduction against vehicle_light or something, along with a bit less HP, but without fire dragons there really is no other AV option, other than FPs which only do AV as a soft counter.

BL dmg to buildings (especially ork buildings) is far too high. other than that, with your changes, they are ok.