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[Gen] The Challenge - 18/5/07 - GRAND FINAL OVER! Post 672 or via OP - 18/5/07

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    then I'm going to use 19 rubric marines/ with AC with 2 LC's and D. Str., D. Mutation and Spikey Bits.
    I may be mistaken, but aren't rubric marines also Chosen of Tzeentch?

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    no rubrics are the basic TS unit

    (and they're 2 wound each too hehehe)

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    Slugga boyz
    1 Nob/'eavy armour, Power Klaw, Bionik arm
    29 slugga boyz

    I assume that since the boyz are not a "retinue" but just part of the squad I can take 3 pieces of wargear. Tell me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooFreaky
    Also, in the OP I did state (from the begginning) that Nids cannot have ANY upgrades, as every upgrade counts toward wargear choice.
    Simply because Nids don't have an armoury, so they get everthing as options.
    Dang, I was hoping you meant only on a Hive Tyrant/Carnifex/Broodlord.

    I'll have to have another think about my squad.

    Edit - What about 6 Raveners with Sything Talons and Rending Claws (it's 1 upgrade choice)? Nowhere near as bad as the Warriors since they can be splatted by the powerfist.

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    Archon with punisher. 5 incubi.

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    I take it my stealers are off base too and whether I could make an arguement that Troops choices taking upgrades should not count as armory choices it would be breaking with the spirit of what Moo is trying to do here if not the letter.

    Hence:

    Genestealers x 12
    Scything Talons
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    Can't remember maximum unit size of possessed

    What about this...
    19 Nurgle possessed with D. Talons
    Asp Champ with Manreaper, D.Essence, Nurgles Rot.

    Think that is right isn't it?
    If their max unit size is 10 and not 20 then take this instead

    19 Nurgle Marines
    +Asp Champ with Manreaper, D.Essence, D.Strength.

    (20 altogether to avoid confusion)

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    Ok since Nightbringer cant be taken, I shall use Khornate Possesed,

    9 Possesed w/ MOK, Daemonic Mutation, Chainaxes, Bolt pistols
    1 Possesed Aspiring Champion w/ MOK,Daemonic Mutation, Dark Blade,Juggernaut of Khorne, Feel no Pain,

    MOK is taken as an option according to unit entry so eveything should be fine for this one right? Also juggernaut gives me mutation aswell as the squad mutation but im not sure if they are cumulative.

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    Okay here is my entry with one question?

    19 rubric marines
    AC with 2 LC's and D. Str., D. Mutation and Spikey Bits and gift of chaos.

    Now since he is auto a sorc. with his mark does my major power count as wargear?
    If so i want to drop D. Strength.

    Thanks guys

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    Just for the hell of it, and 'cause I'm curious about how a Kroot Carnivore unit would do in such a situation:

    Kroot Shaper (w/ 6+ Sv for everyone)
    20 Kroot Carnivores
    12 Kroot Hounds
    3 Krootox Riders

    They're probably going to get butchered, other than the fact that they outnumber the assaulting Marines roughly 3:1 and 16 of the bunch get multiple attacks w/ 24 attacks even before the Marines get to cut loose. Should be fun, even if my Kroot finish dead last...

    (Kinda pointless in these combats, as the Marines aren't subject to Morale, but I miss the old "Release the Hounds" rule for the Kroot Hounds from the old Codex. On the other hand, I like the fact that Hounds have slightly higher Initiative now.)

    P.S. Yay, Moo!
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    Kroot Hound Pack - 20 Kroots, Shaper, 20 Kroot Hounds

    Powerweapon, Armour save.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popsumpot
    I'm going to go 1 better than Tinweasel

    Kroot Hound Pack - 20 Kroots, Shaper, 20 Kroot Hounds

    Powerweapon, Armour save.
    I'm assuming that was a jokey post, as the max number of Hounds you can take in a single Kroot unit is 12. As for the power weapon and armor save, I think I like your Tau Empire Codex better than mine...

    I had considered taking a Pulse Carbine for my Shaper, but seeing as how there's not going to be any shooting by either party and Pinning rules don't applying in CC, it's kinda a waste of points I'm not really spending even if it is an option.

    [Edit] My bad, Popsumpot's using a Kroot Mercenaries list. Ah well, I'll stick with my Krootox as they have higher wounds, strength, and get more attacks. 20 Hounds sounds tempting, all the same... Isn't that Kroot Mercenaries Chapter Approved outdated now, though, as Hounds and Krootox are no longer separate Fast Attack/Heavy Support units coupled with the fact that their stats have changed? [/Edit]
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    He's using the Kroot Mercs list, I believe.
    Using "Mark of the Favoured Child" for the Inv, and Power Weapon.
    Is that right Pops?


    AC with 2 LC's and D. Str., D. Mutation and Spikey Bits and Gift of Chaos
    LC = 1 choice
    D. Str = 2 choices
    D. Mutation = 3 choices
    Spikey Bitz = 4 Choices
    Gift of Chaos = 5 choices

    need to drop a couple

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    Yep, and that intergrated 6+ save for everyone.
    Still haven't see an uber DN......Feel sad for Chaos.
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    I though LC's where a weapon option not a chocie?
    Then I'll drop D. Strength and Spikey bitz

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    As far as me picking Furious Charge and saying it's worthless...well, no, not really. I can use the Hit and Run special rule of Raptors to move back after assault, then get within range and use Furious Charge to assault them.

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    That's right Moo.

    I'll change it if it's out dated.

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    I'll have to go down and dig out my codex's tomorrow. When I do, I'll have my post up. At the moment my entry is:
    5 Gears - 1 with Lancer, 1 with Hammerburst, and 1 with a Boomshot.

    But really, when I find them, I'll post 'em. Untill then, my REAL entry untill codex fix'd:

    10 Wyches, standard

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    FerociousBeast's entry:

    1 Chaos Dreadnought w/ additional DCCW
    -Mark of Khorne (Destroyer)
    -Mutated Hull
    -Daemonic possession
    Warning: Chronic Post Editor

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    Okey Dokey.

    Entries are closed.

    I even have some of the results done.

    Name............Kills

    Waterbizkit - 12
    Evil_Eye -

    Result


    Nareik123 - 13
    Bl4d3w4lk3r - 26
    Rainbow Monkeys -

    Result


    Trignama - 15
    Eventhorizon - 24
    Mirehn Bielann - 20
    Wulfen Brother - 26
    Magus Zeal - 12
    BrianGeneral -

    Result


    Dark Watcher - 28
    Queztacoatl - 7
    TwistedDarkness - 7
    Zell - 12

    The rest are still to be done.
    I will get onto them in next couple days.
    I will have bits and pieces of time...

    As to things so far. Do people find that just getting a result posted is kind of bland and takes away from it all? Is more depth preferred? I won't do it for all of them, but maybe for the top contenders? Thoughts?

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    It's kind of bland, I suppose, but only since we've been spoiled by the other challenges. I think describing only the top three and maybe the bottom three would be fine. Leaving you free of course to describe any others that were noteworthy in any way.

    But it's up to you. No descriptions at all are fine as well.

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    Any chance of getting a list of who has what for us lurkers?

    i.e.

    Nareik123 Grey Knight Grandmaster with Icon of the just
    3 Grey Knight Terminators. 138pts = 13

    Bl4d3w4lk3r Grey Knight Terminator Squad (Elite choice instead of IC with retinue): Brother Captain with Lightning Claws (1 allowed Wargear) 9 Grey Knight Terminators with Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield (free upgrade in options of entry) Points??? = 26

    Rainbow Monkeys - 19 Wyches w/Wych weapons, 1 Succubus w/Agoniser and CC weapon- 288pts = 45

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    I like it the way it is. The easier the better in my opinion.

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    Unless someone thinks of a really good way of setting it out, leave it like it is.

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    Wow, did I really kill 47? :flamer: But I suppose some of the big entries are still to come, like cfoleys BF, and Dooks GS.
    Its fine IMO, mabey describe the top 3, but i think there isn't anything else worthwile you could do. So i say: Keep it as it is!

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    15 alright cant complain

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    7!!!
    :jaw:
    I can't believe it!!
    Looks like my dready met the wrong edge of a power fist faster than i had hoped! I thought the vernarablity would make him survive a bit longer. It shows the vulnerablity of vehicles to getting nabbed by just one shot. Hopefully he will do better in other challenges. Go dread!!

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    I was surprised that my 2+/4+ saves and WS 5 didn't hold up longer but I'm happy with 26 kills.

    My unit would have cost 505 pts and killed 632 pts of marines, I expected a 2 to 1 return on points but at least they earned back their value!

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    Only 7 marines? Wow.

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    But I suppose some of the big entries are still to come, like cfoleys BF, and Dooks GS.
    Thanks for the vote of confidence! Things can go horribly wrong for me pretty easily though. I am really counting on getting 6+ rending hits in the initial go. If I don't score atleast that many it could get pretty bad for me pretty quick.

    Come on math hammer averages!!!

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    Don't discount my rubrics, 19 2 wound MEQ shields for my AC, plus i'll be getting the spawns too

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    I think this is the first challenge my entry hasn't actually come in last. How nice.

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    man... you'd think a bunch of Ass Termies would do better. 20 kills only? Eh meh, 2 to 1 ain't that bad.

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    12? Ach. Thought I'd do better.

    Damn, Dark Watcher. You damn loyalists and your Thunder Hammers...

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    40 Marines is mean enough. I'm actually looking forward to see how the Chaos DN work though.

    BTW, just do what you want Moo.

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    First CC i entered with a Kroot Merc, this time, Hope I can do as well.

    I still wished Moo would have let me enter that 1 grot for it.

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    man... you'd think a bunch of Ass Termies would do better. 20 kills only? Eh meh, 2 to 1 ain't that bad.
    The big thing that has stood out is the consistency of the Termies performances thus far. It has really highlighted to me just how Termies work.
    They are able to do their job well initially, killing plenty on the charge and survivng alot thanks to their 2+ save. However, without support they are getting worn out over time. Their 2+ save is great, however in a drawn out combat, such as this, not having a superior WS or I value is causing alot of problems.

    It's actually the higher WS and/or I models that are doing better than expected, rather than the better Sv models.

    I am doing the remaining forces as we speak...

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    Very nicely done Moo....damn, only 24 kills for my ladies = ( better luck next time darlings. I blame Tzeench for Dropkick doing ridiculously well, he obvioulsy fixed the dice rolls, and needs nerfing in the next Codex!

    Look forward to the next challenge!

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    aw so close!! 2nd is the best i've come so far though, just 2 more would have pushed my score from 48-50 and 1st place. Well i'm V pleased with the result and congrats to dropkick!!

    EDIT- I looked on the list & you seem to have missed cfoley. I was only looking for him because i expected him to do well :blink:

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    Nicely done. Congrats to the top placers. Again, well done Moo. I look forward to more, and greatly enjoy the new format for the challenges, as they are not only fun & interesting, but also easier for you.



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    I didn't miss Cfoley.

    I left him out because he smells...

    Ahem... I had done the results for him, just missed entering them into Access.
    He's in there now.

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    FOR THE CHANGER OF WAYS


    ALL IS DUST

    (sorry i had to get that out of my system)

    I mean if there really is a dice god who else would it be though? Really?

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