Hey, this isn't even finished yet!
Hey, this isn't even finished yet!
Hi all, indeed the mod is far from being finished.
Hopefully, many models are on the way, but then we will have to integrate them in the game, so they have their own personality etc...
As i said once, patience is gold.
Also, no worries, things are getting in a good rythm.
Anyway, some updates about those Servants, and Stormtroopers.
Ok, i am aware i need to fix shoulder pads on Sergeant, and Stormtroopers, plus many other details on many models, but for now i've been focusing on making the models effective, and looking overall decent.
Example: if an object collides too much in another object, or is being deformed oddly, then things are not good!
That's what i've been focusing today, little details will be easy to fix though, and they can wait for now.
Intresting. Very intresting... can't wait to see them ingame with my own eyes!
@Vene, dude, catch me next time, i will send you models.
Back to topic: new models, Shield Servants given by the Adeptus Mechanicus to the Ordo Xenos Inquisition.
I will fix the fx around them, as i didn't have time to move and re-link markers in 3Ds Max.
Next, some Attack Servants will come, followed by Heavy Attack Ones.
Also, i will make a swordwoman based on the Harlequin, indeed her moves remind me so much of this woman in Eisenhorn Trilogy.
Basically, Inquisitors have people coming from every horizons working for them.
As long as units and general concept remain fluffy, it should be fine.
I don't need the Swordswoman and the Attack Familiars, all those models so far are fine by me 'cos I'm sticking to my edited techtree.
Of course, what I do want... I'll PM you about it.
Nice Familiars though!
Well,this is pure awesomeness.Just the thing to keep me alive till next update.
Hi, on request from VenerableDread, here comes a Praetorian servant unit.
Note: Hopefully some minor changes can enhance the model, however, he will still walk like an ork
Texture is horrible, and needs a complete remake, i removed the green skin, so at least it looks less orkish.
I will add a lot of servitor/mechanical parts, to make him look more like a Praetorian.
Hi Acroyer, i had same idea than you said, but thank you
Well i was just (for the first time) following instructions from someone.
I will next time do as i do usually, trust my instinct and give place to inspiration.
Edit: i think those minis rock! I will try to reproduce them.
Thank you so much Acroyer, it seems like this web site is a gold mine when it comes to minis!
This mod looks interesting, I like the ideas. What are you planning to do to balance the Deathwatch? Some kind of hardcap, maybe 3 or 4 squads?
Any way it could be used simultaneously with the Tyranid mod, when both are released?
Oh yeah, for sure. As long as they get Thudmeizer to do the AI so the AI is compatible with the Tyranids mod, it really only takes editing one file so the two mods play together, and you're done. I can't exactly remember how to do it, but I'm sure that someone like Compiler does.
Agreed with the-tempest here. Also, Deathwatch Support Teams and Combat Teams will have a shared hardcap up to four squads of any mixture.
Also, I am thinking about ditching the Deathwatch Librarian idea. The Inquisitor already has his position as psyker and having something similar yet not the same would be too... odd. And I also forsee model problems when the Captain was upgraded to the Librarian. It'll be like... Huh? My Deathwatch Captain from the Ultramarines Chapter turned into a Blood Angels Deathwatch Librarian? WTF? Consider your opinions for this.
Yeah, the Space Marines already have a Librarian, you don't want to imitate them too closely.
What kind of options will the Deathwatch Support and Combat teams have? Support teams = weapon emplacements, like IG Heavy Weapon Teams, or something different? I'm curious about how many different ways will be available to kit them out.
Hi all, i was about to make some Deathwatch Terminators but they don't exist at all in fluff, so i'll focus on re-making this Praetorian guy for now.
Yes. And a very good one, too! We have some high-quality Deathwatch Terminators ingame now. I thought you guys would be intrested. But They're so good that I don't want to link to the pictures. Instead, there is a direct link to the thread on our own forums here.
You trickeded me!
Might be back, not sure yet.
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CURSE YOU GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding, I already fell for the DOW 2 announced thread, so I was expecting something.
ahhhhhh crap! you got me, VenerableDread!
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Ok, we had some jokes, aprils fools day, bla... bla... bla... don't you think that when everybody comes up with such a prank It stops being funny?
I do, but no one else seems to...
I must be really gullable, because that is like the fourth trick I have fallen for today.
LOL! Finaldeath has just warned me about the prank, saying it was off-topic. I'm sorry if this causes any inconvenience, but he must have really misunderstood. Either that or he was trying to get back at me.
Anyhow, I guess that now April Fool's day is really over, I guess I'll change the title, but watch this space for any REAL updates. And I mean it.
Hi all, i'm going to work on a tall Deathwatch Space Marine.
In many books, i've read about some really tall ones, for whom the Space Marines armor were too small, so the Tech Marines added some wasted Terminator armor parts on the SM armor. Those Terminator parts can't be re-used for Terminators, because they're too damaged.
I'm sorry about the lack of updates recently, but between my work, and my Black Crusade mod, i've had very little time on my hands.
So stay tuned people!
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where do these "giants" fit in on the techtree
Hi all, i don't know yet, they (or HE alone) will be the equivalent of a Terminator, but since officially i never heard about any Deathwatch Terminator, this will be a nice way to replace them. Basically, it will be stronger than the usual Space Marine, and he should then have more strenght (translate this into more melee damage), this is not against the fluff as far as i know. Model wise, it will look like a Terminator, with some Space Marines parts.
Edit: i've been working hard, and i've been busy with The Black Crusade mod, just stay tuned as more update will come very soon.
That part about the tech marines using parts of terminator armor to make a suit for space marines that are too tall is from the ultramarines trilogy. Not the deathwatch stories.
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its was Sergeant Pasanius Lysane who in the Ultramarine series of novels does have armour that has been crafted from parts cannibalised from Terminator Armour
Hi guys, indeed it's from the Ultramarine Omnibus, but i don't see why the Deathwatch couldn't have some tall Space Marines too, i've read the comic called "Deathwatch" and some of them look very tall, so why not eh?
Besides, it would look cool to have a tall DW unit, who would contrast with the regular DW SM.
I don't see a problem fluff wise, or TT wise.
And remember, there's no Ordo Xenos codex yet so...
need more Marines...
"Repent! For tomorrow you die!"
does this mean there'll be short marines? lol
'All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled with sober senses, his real conditions in life, and his relations with his kind.'
What will deathwatch marines use for close combat? Will they use, knives, chainswords or their gun's bayonets? I hope it's the chainsword.
Logic would say they wouldd use thier bayonets. but then, look at the guardsmen. Nice Pointy Bayonet on thier lasgun, but they use their blunt little knife...
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Hi all, i think it's knives, but i'm not sure yet, so i'll double check soon.
Right now, until i'm done with the "Terminator Space Marine" guy, here's a little update about the Inquisition Daemonhost.
He got shackles, chains, wards, nails, locks etc...it's still early work in progress though, just wait and see.
There are no Daemonhosts in the Ordo Xenos.
The Daemonhost is a unit which is specific to the radical branch of the Daemonhunters.
Well, it's not like there are official rules for who's allowed to have one and who's not ...nobody is. So an Inquisitor doesn't really need to be a member of the Ordo Malleus to create or possess a Daemonhost (though it's cértainly easier if so).
But I agree that it doesn't fit, it would be better to stick to Alienhunter-specific units.
The same goes for these "tall marines". I've never heard or read about them. From what I gather from Blu3kn1gh7's comment , it just one single marine from one specific chatper who has this sort of armour, right?!
And why create a remplacement for DW Terminators in the first place? Although disregarded by many, the Goto novels feature DW Terminators.
Hi guys, my bad, i just looked at the Tech Tree that VenerableDread gave me once, and there's no Daemonhost, sigh.
So dismiss my post above, no Daemonhost, i will change this unit to integrate it in to The Black Crusade faction.
@Compiler: it's getting hard to choose units, as there's no Ordo Xenos codex yet, i'm tempted to send you the tech tree my friend, i'll ask VenerableDread if he doesn't mind of course, is that ok with you? Your input would be pure gold to me man!
Edit: i'm about to start to work on the Magos Xenobiologist unit, and rework the Praetorians i made once, i think that's safe and fluffy, well i hope so.
Edit#2: bah, the tech tree is posted in the beginning of this thread already...@Compiler: are Magos Xenobiologist and Praetorians good to go in your opinion? And what about DW Terminators?
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"as there's no Ordo Xenos codex yet, i'm tempted to send you the tech tree"
Well, since there is no codex, I cannot be of much help. It's Venerable Dread's mod, so he pretty much puts what he wishes in it.
well stormies are probably in the ordo xenos. and seeing as thwe ordo malleus have daemonhosts maybe they have mutants? spliced from aliens? i dunno
What Compiler said. It's true, dat!
And colonel temp, you just really gave me a really creepy idea. Don't know if it's fluffy though, but it sounds like a nice idea.
Basically, remember guys, this is not like Compiler's Inquisition: Daemonhunt mod, which is almost true to codex and only focuses on the puritian side of the Ordo Malleus, if I remembered correctly. This mod however, as there is no official codex released for the Ordo Xenos (yet), is basically how I would envision the Ordo Xenos race, both puritian and radical alike. So, yeah, there might be really crazy things, but it's all worth it.
And talking of Deathwatch Terminators, they should have normal Terminator armour, with Deathwatch bits on, like what the Deathwatch Marines should have. A hybrid of power armour and Terminator armour is just plain too wierd to me.
Can't wait to see what you can do with the Magos Xenobiologist and the Praetorians, iamaplayer.
Hi all, here come the Deathwatch Terminators early WiP.
The book on the back is a test, either i will remove it completly, or i will add some bionic support to it, depending if people like it or not.
New and revised units will come soon...
PS: at Vene, maybe you should change the thread's title?
At Compiler, thank you anyway my friend
Nice, but you need to use the Deathwatch shoulderpad from the Deathwatch Marine model in the WIP mod which can be downloaded at the Ordo Xenos Forums. (Which is for the mod team only!) You might also want to look at the same model to see how Chapter shoulderpads are randomised. If you are having trouble downloading the WIP mod, iamaplayer, I'll PM the Deathwatch Marines to you.
Hi Vene, no problem man, i will refine those Terminators. A lilttle feedback about the book on their back would be welcome though, because i'm hesitating about it...i was thinking to add a book, held by an electronic pict support (high tech FX type that i could make eventually).
harking back to what i understand in regard to codex alien hunters is that its badnying around the design studio but none of the dev really want to pick it up, so its unlikely we will see one anytime soon,
also i still don't think the deathwatch woulod be using terminator suits, they are just to preacious to the chapters and inquistion suits don't tend to look anything like Astartes pattern suits, so i think the whole Deathwatch terminator is dodgy ground even though you have the beginings of good looking models. Also the suits have far stronger spirits than that of the standard astartes power armour suits so painting out the majority of the chapter colour like on the power armour would likely anger the suits spirit.
I reckon using Deathwatch kill teams themselves as tier 3 units be the better idea, say ranged and cc version, ranged with sergeant and librain and cc with captain and sgt or somthing along those lines, maybe also deathwatch razorbacks.
if you do continue with the DW termies can they get better more suitable weapons
maybe access to more heavy flamers, storm claws, ect.
@Sgt.Roadkill: why does it matter that its not extremely fluffy? would it really take away from the gameplay or the feel of what the mod team is going for?
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