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CoH Patch 1.4 Changelog (now with download link)

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    CoH Patch 1.4 Changelog (now with download link)

    Hi everyone, thanks for your patience with us during this process. We're happy to finally get the 1.4 patch out soon.

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    Here's the changelog:

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    General Fixes

    - Both Ranked and Custom games now default to random starting locations.

    - The in-game server status URL now points to http://www.relicrank.com

    - Fixed a bug pertaining to unranked matches counting as Ranked matches.

    - New performance and lag indicators have been added to the Online UI.

    - A new loading screen has been added which incorporates player names, ranks and loading bars.


    Gameplay

    - Light Vehicles can no longer be blocked by Allied Barbed Wire and Sand Bags

    - Light and Medium Vehicles can no longer crush Axis Tank Traps.

    - Fixed bug where Allied AT Guns could destroy Axis Flak 88s in a single registered hit, regardless of the Flak 88's health.

    - Fixed issue where all unfinished defensive structures did not take more damage from all weapons.

    - Fixed bug where the Axis Halftrack Flammenwerfer upgrade cost fuel. This was an attribute data error.

    - Allied and Axis Snipers can once again kill each other with single registered hits.

    - Improved Sherman Crocodile damage against infantry units not in cover.

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    Note Added by ÜberJumper:
    Quote Originally Posted by ÜberJumper
    After a review of the thread, before anyone else posts, please review the following posts in this thread.

    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...42#post1986842

    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...61#post1987161

    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...57#post1987657

    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...46#post1987846

    Also have a read of Buggo's post in this thread:

    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=123783

    The 1.4 patch was not designed to be an exclusive balance patch, End, Of, Story.

    From this point forward, there will be no Rants, no comments about "I thought 1.4 would be a balance patch", and definately no sniping at each other.

    If you have a technical issue with the patch, go post in the technical support forums.

    FAILURE TO FOLLOW THESE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS WILL RESULT IN THE REMOVAL OF YOUR POSTING PRIVILEGES IN THE COH GD FORUM

    Treat each other, and Relic, as you would want to be treated.
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    Stickying thread.

    I hope this patch is being released soon™

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    awesome news

    especially for the Ranked stats / unranked

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    Awesome!

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    Thankyou for posting the changelog, its good to see some much need fixes going into place, but i was little deflated to see no mention of 2v2 or 3v3 ranked matches.....support for clans, guilds call them what you like...

    Will this happen in a later patch or has that idea now been put to rest?

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    This made my pants wet, thank you.

    :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gethsemane
    Thankyou for posting the changelog, its good to see some much need fixes going into place, but i was little deflated to see no mention of 2v2 or 3v3 ranked matches.....support for clans, guilds call them what you like...

    Will this happen in a later patch or has that idea now been put to rest?
    It's still something we want to do.

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    hope burns eternal eh

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    omg, being able to shoot away unfinished defenses FTW!!!! woot woot!

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    Very nice changelog!

    Just a pity the model importer is still absent in all the current patches, the modding community really needs it and I hope you don't forget them!

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    Most of these changes are good. But where in the heck did you guys get the idea that the Croc needed to be better vs infantry or AT guns, even, not in cover? Has anyone there actually used this tank? The Croc MURDERS infantry with or without cover. This is an undisputable fact. It's one of the single best infantry killing machines in the game. What needed to be done was to nerf the regular sherman vs infantry, to be more on the lines of say the PanzerIV, so that the Allies have a reason to consider making the Croc.

    No further nerfs to BAR, I notice. Fine. No buffs to the Axis grenadier (or a nerf to the damage Shermans do to them). Perhaps not so fine. People have been asking for this for a long time. As it is, Allies have a ton of infantry killing power - BAR already makes using infantry extremely tough for Axis when the Sherman is on the field, not to mention straffing runs (which are fast and have almost zero indicator, so can't really be dodged, and doesn't seem as inaccurate as it used to be, or at least as people claimed it to be) which can take out several squads at once -oops, there goes 300 ammo worth of Screcks and 600+ MP in one fell swoop, oopsie daisy. I mean, the more I think about it, I have to wonder if Relic just doesn't want Axis to use infantry all that much. I mean, just look at the KCH - how often is this unit used? It's sniper bait, AT gun sniper bait - heck even the tiny 4 men gren squads are prone to being "sniped" by AT guns.

    Also, no fix for FOW in replays. I can't remember the last game that had this problem....what's up with this? Please get rid of it.

    It seems new maps will still have no music and must be played with a -dev addition to an altered shortcut. Fantastic.

    Nm, I'm doing being mature and patient while defending Relic from Jerkoffs. I'm done holding my breath.

    In closing, most of those changes are very good and were needed. Thanks for that, at least.

    Sigh.

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    Thanks alot for the update Buggo. Have really hoped these last couple of days that we'd hear something from you guys about 1.4. But I do think it's better not releasing these kinds of things too early since 1.3 was such a big hazzle on the forums. GG and well done.

    I hope this patch is being released soon™

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    Yeah! Great work Buggo! All these are positive things!

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    Most of these changes are good. But where in the heck did you guys get the idea that the Croc needed to be better vs infantry or AT guns, even, not in cover? Has anyone there actually used this tank? The Croc MURDERS infantry with or without cover. This is an undisputable fact. It's one of the single best infantry killing machines in the game. What needed to be done was to nerf the regular sherman vs infantry, to be more on the lines of say the PanzerIV, so that the Allies have a reason to consider making the Croc.
    QFT

    But I am sure that this is only preliminary and that there is another part that is coming called: Balance like it was when the 1.3 patch content was displayed that will fix a lot of stuff that people were complaining about since the 1.3 was release.

    But still why the hell did they gave a boost to the Croc against uncovered infantry squad... I never saw a single complaints for that on any thread in this forum!
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    This changelog is a good start. Good job relic, expecially on fixing some game breaking issues, such as tank traps, ranking issues, and exploitation of half built structures, etc. This is a much needed patch

    Almost everything on it targets something the CoH community was concerned about, (with the exception of maybe crocs). However, I had hoped with a wait this long, we'd also see in 1.4:

    -Sherman accuracy while in smoke fixed
    -Sherman's infantry damage reduced after being upgunned
    -Grenadier Panzershreck clipping issue fixed
    -Grenadier accuracy vs. Shermans improved

    Might these still be included in the 1.4 patch as well?

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    Where is the DROP BUG fix????

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    Oh, thanks, I forgot about Sherman smoke bug. I sure do hope there's more to this patch - as JagdAlex said, maybe they forgot the Balance section, though the Croc changes, imo, would fall under that catagory.

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    The patch notes says nothing about being "tentative" this time though. Maybe the Sherman "plasma shield" remains for now.

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    The server is down for patch 1.4 updates.
    is this true

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    Any news on the 88mm veterancy bug? 1.3 made 88's no longer gain veterancy when the support group was researched at Kampfkraft Center.

    I mean, it's minor, but it was also an easy fix. Someone deleted or overwrote the 88's veterancy table in veteran_support_x.rdg. I easily corrected it with a mod. (linkie in sig)

    But then again I'm sure Buggo didn't post a full readme =D

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    1.4 being released now i think.

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    Seems like it is. Little more secret this time

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    Hi guys, I did take down all your suggestions in that thread a while. Don't worry if you don't see it in this patch, the suggestion thread was intended for the 1.5 patch. This patch was mainly to take care of the online issues.

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    Buggo: no torrent download this time? I seeded 1.3 x15

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    Hi guys, I did take down all your suggestions in that thread a while. Don't worry if you don't see it in this patch, the suggestion thread was intended for the 1.5 patch. This patch was mainly to take care of the online issues.
    so it will fix the drop bug?! woot!

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    Not necessarily. Maybe, but I see nothing that actually points to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisteRoguE
    so it will fix the drop bug?! woot!
    I hope this is not the full change log and I hope they fixed it after 2 months sight....

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    server down for 1.4 updates!!!!

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    Mixed feelings ... Whilst I'm pleased to finally see patch 1.4 released (over 3 weeks after Tranj's "very soon" message) ...

    I can't help feeling disappointed that this is what we've been waiting for - if it is indeed the full changelog. I thought this was supposed to be the planned balance patch. Most of the fixes in it are nothing to do with balance.

    Is this what the 'dedicated' Re;lic team - who were 'aware of the problem and were working on a fix' - have been working on for over 3 weeks?

    Hmmmm.

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    umm Wasn't 1.4 supposed to be more significant for balance? This is... well this is nothing.

    ...

    ...

    I remember mow said there were some significant upcomming changes. What's the deal?


    You know what, I don't know what goes on at Relic and THQ, I don't know how you've set up your system for patching, I don't know the kind of effort that's being put into this, but I wasn't born yesterday. This is not the only game I've played, this is not the only patch support I've witnessed, I do not pretend to myself in order to spare myself the taxation of frustration that game software is complex mystery technology, I've modded my own balance changes, which are probably equal to the entirety of your pathetic efforts since release within an hour, and without fucking something up in the process! I know that such things are nothing to implement, and you guys probably have better tools to achieve this and a professional knowledge of them. I know you have a group of people who exist at Relic expressly to balance the game, and I know I haven't seen any reasonable results whatsoever since the last beta patch.


    just... fuck this.

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    so are the ranks all fixed? like when i play 2v2 it wont come up as a 1v1 or basic match win? when are the servers back up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggo
    Hi guys, I did take down all your suggestions in that thread a while. Don't worry if you don't see it in this patch, the suggestion thread was intended for the 1.5 patch. This patch was mainly to take care of the online issues.
    Buggo, were we not told that 1.4 would be the "balance patch"? I really hope we some more balance changes here...

    S.

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    While the bug fixes are nice, this is a pretty disappointing patch. Why the heck do you keep buffing Allies? Sherman needs pretty significant nerfs since it's such an all-round uber tank--*that* is why people aren't picking the Crocodile. Why make a Crocodile when the 88mm--er, 76mm is almost as effective?

    All this patch seems to do is fix critical bugs that should've never surfaced to begin with. Oh well, guess there's always mods.

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    omg, it isnt even implemented yet, and you people allready start complaining!

    she said " patch for online issues" !!

    which is the most important thing to fix right now!

    arent you people ever happy?

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    I'm sure thats not the full change log, lets not jump the gun, remember what happened to 1.3?

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    Legion, I think people have a right to be frustrated this go around. I've remained patient and constructive, often supporting Relic. But this is getting ridiculous, for reasons myself and others have already posted.

    If most of the online issues are in fact fixed, kudos, though, for that small part. I know many people will be happy with that. But I'll wait to see what happens there.

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    Posted by LegionFlandern:

    omg, it isnt even implemented yet, and you people allready start complaining! she said " patch for online issues" !! which is the most important thing to fix right now! arent you people ever happy?]
    Do you think fish are unhappy? I don't. I think fish are very happy.

    Do you think fish are admirable for being happy, despite their circumstances? Would you like to be a fish instead of a man, because a fish is happy despite being what it is? Do you know why the fish is happy? The fish is ignorant. The fish doesn't know any better.

    I am not a fish, You maybe, but not me, and I choose never to be.

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    /\/\ LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayLiota
    Buggo, were we not told that 1.4 would be the "balance patch"? I really hope we some more balance changes here...

    S.
    I'm not sure who told you that.

    Listen, I know you guys are frustrated. But try to remember this. You guys asked for the online problems to be fixed first and foremost. We're hoping to do that with this patch.

    A larger more significant patch with balance and gameplay changes is being worked on. These are the fixes that take a long time because thousands of games need to be played to test balance, and a lot of programming work goes into the bug fixes.

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    Do you think fish are unhappy? I don't. I think fish are likely very happy.

    Do you think fish are admirable for being happy, despite their circumstances? Would you like to be a fish instead of a man, because a fish is happy despite being what it is? Do you know why the fish is happy? The fish is ignorant. The fish doesn't know any better.

    I am not a fish, You maybe, but not me, and I choose never to be.
    Mr. Happy himself, lol.

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    we have a saying in Flanders...it says:

    "the best skippers comment from the shore".

    meaning that is easy to give comments while doing nothing....

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    Im sooo pleased over these changes, its everything that ive hoped for!

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    I'm not sure who told you that.

    Listen, I know you guys are frustrated. But try to remember this. You guys asked for the online problems to be fixed first and foremost. We're hoping to do that with this patch.

    A larger more significant patch with balance and gameplay changes is being worked on. These are the fixes that take a long time because thousands of games need to be played to test balance, and a lot of programming work goes into the bug fixes.
    guys one thing i really like about relic is their support, even though sometimes it takes awhile to get exactly what we want, they have the dedication and make the effort to make the game the best it can be, even though sometimes it can take awhile, but sometimes more time is needed.

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    I haven't done nothing, I've made my own balance changes for myself, but those are not good online, and I've been trying to play some of the ECoH mod. Outside of these things I can't do much. I don't own Relic.

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    Do you think fish are admirable for being happy, despite their circumstances? Would you like to be a fish instead of a man, because a fish is happy despite being what it is? Do you know why the fish is happy? The fish is ignorant. The fish doesn't know any better.

    I am not a fish, You maybe, but not me, and I choose never to be.
    Haha, that was awesome. :-)

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    well atleast they addressed the ranks, thats one step towards the right direction.

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    Light Vehicles can no longer be blocked by Allied Barbed Wire and Sand Bags
    Does this mean that the motorcycle and jeep can go through them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buggo
    Listen, I know you guys are frustrated. But try to remember this. You guys asked for the online problems to be fixed first and foremost. We're hoping to do that with this patch.
    .
    and we thank you for it.

    online gaming issues was the most annoying thing indeed...

    remember, the grass is always greener on the other side of the hill, if you would have done a balance patch b4 resolving the online issues, you would also have received many complaints....

    its a cliché, but you cant please everyone at the same time.

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    lets just all wait for the patch, there are always things to be fixed and there will be always ppl to admire Relic and ppl to be disappointed but remember that you play this game in your free time and for fun

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    Hah, sounds like a pack of whining 8 year olds that joined a game on xbox live, people need to realize that the term "real soon" in game devolpment can take several weeks, COD2 never had their online problems fixed for amlost 4 months after release. Even though the public was promised it would be fixed ASAP, you should be very fortunate that Relic has relased this as quick as they did. Some game companies would have ignored the public and randomly released patches the presented 2 times the problems as before. Thanks for the update Buggo!

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