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Your Country Needs YOU! Dulce Et Decorum Est, for 6 Players, Is Released (again)!

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    Your Country Needs YOU! Dulce Et Decorum Est, for 6 Players, Is Released (again)!

    Have you ever felt your life has no meaning?
    Have you ever felt that everything you do has no point?
    Have you ever looked into the history books and thought "You know, if I could get myself blown up on the battlefield for some abstract cause, then I'd have really achieved something?"

    Well now you can! Ladies and gentleman, Incarnate and I are proud to announce Dulce Et Decorum Est for both Winter Assault and Dark Crusade, a scripted Trench Warfare map, designed especially for all you budding imperial conscripts to sign up for, proceed to leap 200 feet into the air upon, and then scatter your body parts across a wide area over.

    Features Include:
    1) Reinforcements that are spawned onto the map for you to command
    2) All non Imperial HQs are destroyed... You'll fight for the Imperium and like it, soldier!
    3) All builders units of all races are also destroyed. We aren't here to build a home for Timmy the Turtle, son!
    4) The first person to reach the neutral generator gains its ownership, until these in turn are destroyed.
    5) Gradual bonus teching of your units in the game. This is your rifle: There will be many like it, but this one is yours.
    6) Self targetting and firing, extra long range basiliks. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean they aren't trying to hit it.
    7) Critical locations give extended vision to thier owner.
    8.) Mystery easter egg of mysteriousness.
    9.) Exceptionally detailed and sombre ReadMe... but what are you doing sitting there reading? I told you to go Over The Top, maggot! Hup, hup, hup!

    They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so let the pictures begin!

    Unique loading screens for the Winter Assault and Dark Crusade versions:



    Barbed wire, torrential rain, death and carnage amongst the mud, and the merciless thud - thud - thud of incoming artillery shells; It's like Glastonbury without the food poisoning and petty crime; It's the hell of No Mans Land...



    And surrounding it on either side, opposing yard after yard of barricades, pill boxes, and the infamous Trenches themselves;



    And after slogging through the sludge, the cities you are trying to defend: Your own private Stalingrad, complete with artillery, smashed buildings, ruined parks, and the concrete blessed roads by which your reinforcements will arrive.



    And finally of course, the mysterious Easter Egg: Is it under under those multiple pink question marks maybe...?



    You have no chance to find make your time! But if you do, sssshhh... the walls have ears! You never know who might be listening.

    Yes folk, Dulce Et Decorum Est, a 6 player map with a cast of thousands... and thousands who end up in casts! Download your copy today!

    And this time, perfectly safely! Not the slightest danger involved in downloading at all! What are you afraid of, do we have to give you a white feather?



    You want one of those? Of course, you dont! March right up to your Recruiting Officers at the following locations, thrust out your chest like a real man and say "Give me some of that Dulce Et Decorum Est, Sir Yes Sir!"

    Corporal Temphosting:
    http://s17.quicksharing.com/v/458796...t_6p_.zip.html

    Sergeant Moe And The Permanent Host-troopers Of Doom:
    http://88.198.39.149/~misc/Dulce_Et_Decorum_Est_6p_.zip

    General DoWFiles:
    http://dawnofwar.filefront.com/file/...73472x#1093157
    Last edited by Titler; 11th Dec 06 at 8:46 AM.
    Maps! Brainboy'z Hill GE - Get Yer Grotz On! - Dulce Et Decorum Est
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    It's great to see this map finally completed, Titler!

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    Best. Map. Advertisement. Ever.
    This sounds, smells and looks like fun, make that one download more!
    First the Skirmish AI mod, then The Harlequins mod, then Argonoughts' awesome survival map, then this: I think i'm in heaven

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    I forgot to say, it ALL works online as well. Thank Incarnate for his patience and talent for that... it was a bugger getting the scripted artillery to search for targets in the fog of war online, as they all started looking for different ones, then crashed the game :P

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    good work to both Incarnate and Titler!

    downloading now

    Hrmmm...
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    Ah, Titler, i get a strange error after installing the mod:

    All three games run, though. And deinstalling your mod doesn't remove the message either.

    Please tell me that i do NOT have to reinstall Dow+Wa+DC ?
    edit: The exe seems to have corrupted the DoW registry settings :/
    Last edited by Aralez; 7th Dec 06 at 6:43 PM.

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    Ack! im getting the same error!



    wut do u mean aralez? did it corrupt the CD keys in the registry?

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    Very interesting map. Fun no doubt.. but amazingly tough!

    I think I found a problem though... will PM you with it once I confirm.
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    Ra Owa : ... [sputtering] ... o.O ... Its SCIENCE!

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    Can't wait to try this map (looks like some awesome screen shots)

    Will wait till bug resolved though... no offense

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    22:08:45.37 MATHBOX -- Version=5, Cpu=AMD Athlon 64:f=15,m=12, Mode=SSE
    22:08:45.37 FILESYSTEM -- filepath failure, path does not exist 'Engine\Locale\english\Data'
    22:08:45.37 GAME -- Warning: Failed to map folder 'Engine\Locale\english\Data'.
    22:08:45.37 GAME -- Warhammer, 1.11, Build 95990
    This may be the problem - the installer may have hosed the file system

    Need to dig a bit further.

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    You guys got that too...? I thought I'd just been hit with an unconnected bug, as no one else reported it when I asked them to try the installer and map. But if two people within a few hours now have had it, it does look very much like we've hit a serious error. And a really bloody odd one, because all the installer does is look for the reg key for Winter Assault, something a lot of maps have done in the past. It must be something in the scar, but god knows what.

    From my own experience, I've seen the CD key become corrupt, but I've also had that message when all the reg keys are included, and the game still runs, but DC thinks some are missing still.

    The only solution I've found chaps was a full reinstall, I'm sorry to say. Please don't download it until further notice.

    Bugger.

    This may be the problem - the installer may have hosed the file system

    Need to dig a bit further.
    I'd really appreciate it if you could find this... I've got to quickly write to DoW files and ask them not to upload it. This is frustrating, because it's a professional installer software, and it automates the key calling function, but we may have to hack it all out. Hnnngh.

    I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT IS. I've updated my bug submission here;
    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...11#post1986911
    Please add your findings into there too. But looking back at the earlier thread I'd submitted, the common theme is people were using software which was likely to look at the THQ RegKey entries. In the other person's case, it was the CoH demo...

    ... but it's 4am for me now, I'll have to have a look at it all tomorrow; I'll make an empty installer that calls the WA key, and see if I can break Dark Crusade with it. Once more, my apologies to everyone.
    Last edited by Titler; 7th Dec 06 at 8:56 PM.

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    Ok... I repaired my install like this.

    Only on WINXP

    Start, Programs, Accessories, system tools, system restore

    Pick the last good restore point before this happened and execute it.

    This should get you back to base line - you might have to un-install any mods you have active though.

    Hope that helps.

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    Im ill in bed atm, posting on my PSP. when you compiled the installer you might have told it to update registry, i remember seeing a checkbox for it in the program i was using. If its causing so much hastle why dont you just ditch the registry method and set it to install in the default location? I think it is safe to assume that anyone who installed elsewhere has the intellect to know how to change a filepath. Dont worry Titler, youll get it sorted.
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    @Ragnarok2504: I renamed the regedit entry of the Dawn of War entry and the message was gone, BUT Dark Crusade didn't recognize that DoW+WA were installed. When i renamed it back to Dawn of War, the message would appear again. So i think the cause of the error must be in the DawnofWar registry entry.

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    Hi Aralez: I've found the cause, thanks to Incarnate's wisdom. I'm re-writing the installer to avoid the bug... and I have to admit, secretly hoping Relic have done the same with some of their installers, which would be causing the crashes for everyone who doesn't have the map, as I thus wouldnt feel so stupid for letting that setting slip through on our map.

    You can pop over to the thread in Bug submissions to see the cause, and how I've made sure it is that. I shall also be changing the SCAR and the physical map a teensy bit to hobble a cheeky bug Troubleshooter caught, so once I've got it all fixed, I'll reupload again tonight. And it should be safe to redownload.

    But as for how to fix the data in the Registry Key... Im not sure what it changes, I can't physically see it. The only way I've been able to fix it, including after deliberately breaking my install again to be certain I'd got the cause, was to uninstall all except saved personal settings, reinstall DoW, then WA on top (which takes it to 1.4), patch for 1.51, then install Dark Crusade over the top.

    Sorry... Months of hard work bodged by buggering up some innocent people's installs

    (And it was my fault; Incarnate had Update off, but I let it slip through with it on after I wrote the text for his install code)
    Last edited by Titler; 8th Dec 06 at 10:40 AM.

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    Im very very sorry but i think the only way to fix this is to;

    1) Full reinstall of DOW + WA, or
    2) Full system restore. ( of a known safe restore point)

    The registry is very delicate and cant be fixed easily. the above two are the only things i know of that will guarantee a fix

    Also to clear up some misunderstanding, THIS MAP IS NOT A MOD! It is simply coded in the same fashion that castle ruosteinen is.

    Now to get this thread back on a lighter note;
    make your time! But if you do, sssshhh... the walls have ears! You never know who might be listening.

    Yes folk, Dulce Et Decorum Est, a 6 player map with a cast of thousands... and thousands who end up in casts! Download your copy today!
    ^^Hint Hint^^
    Last edited by Incarnate; 8th Dec 06 at 10:54 AM. Reason: Adding ye olde hint hint

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    *shameless bumpage*

    Those of you following my thread over in Tech Support will see that with I've exhaustively tested to ensure I've caught the problem, and also tweaked the map a little physically, Incarnate has kindly PUT A STOP TO TROUBLESHOOTERS WANDERING FINGERS, and the map is now absolutely safe to download, and ready for your virtual heroics once more.

    If you've already downloaded, and you fancy playing it online, you are advised to redownload, as the scar now differs from previously and will cause a sync error with this one.

    Feedback welcome of course

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    Thanks to titler, the old rusty axe at the bottom of my garden has a new lease of life. ^_^

    The scar update is only minor, i fixed the issue where you could build a techpriest for a fraction of a second at game start.

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    Ah! Finally! Downloading atm!

    Btw, i didn't reinstall DoW+WA as i don't play online anymore (too much droppers, smurfs +QS ). I simply deleted the DoW entries in the registry so that i do not get the unnerving message. Everything works as usual, except me not being able to play online as the old races (which i frankly don't miss).

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    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=126933

    Instructions as to how to get them back without uninstalling and reinstalling a little way down that thread...

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    You cant stop me... I WILL get those enginseers!!!


    Err... New problem

    My game works fine, but when I load up this map, I dont get the reinforcement timer.

    It just shows "$800999 No Key"

    That makes it a bit tougher to execute my special ops "march to the sea" through the enemy back field.... as 900 kasyrkin tend to spawn on top of my little insertion team when its least opportune

    Anyway I can get that timer working?

    Last but not least... you managed to disable my Tech Priests from the HQ, but you turned on the tech button, allowing me to go to tier 2. You didnt mean for that did you?
    Last edited by Troubleshooter; 10th Dec 06 at 7:46 PM.

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    Thanks for the repair link, Titler, now it works again!

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    troubleshooter please print screen your tech up situation. You seem to have some sort of screwed up system, as the 800999 should be correct for WA. its from the standard english UCS.

    Really, now how did you get the hell can you go to tier 2 without a tactica control??
    You must have some mod running, as 1) you seem to be missing a UCS. 2) your tech system is screwed from standard wa. Playing with other mods can produce undesirable effects... skirmish AI is not supported as ususal as it is pointless on this map, and the fact it has a bug they never bother to fix that screws up preset troops.

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    Running this in DC

    Thats why the tech button is active!!! Ha... I thought I could play this in DC rather than WA.

    WA would be alot easier - fire on the move works there

    So, you are saying I should NOT play this map in DC?

    I am running stock AI in Dark Crusade - no other mod active.

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    please make it completely compatable with dc. i said a while back ill download when its completed, not even downloaded it yet, looked through the posts and the intro was the cherry on the top. :P

    please dont let this be a burnt blueberry muffin
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    *incarnate picks up rusty axe once more...


    Titlers going to have a fit when he sees what has happened. I first the installer reg issue, then this...:/ he he he..
    There are two versions of the map, a PURE DC version, that should have all that stuff fixed, and one that is WA only, but works in DC with the errors described above. For some reason you seem to be using the WA scar in the DC directory. Try finding the other scar file and switching them round. The actual map files do not differ.

    I dont have DC, or even DOW at the moment, so i relied on titler to tell me the DC version worked properly. I have a feeling that that hq thing wont be fixed in the DC version though, as i didnt think the whole tech thing changed that much. If you get the DC scar working ( the message at the side will actually work), then can you tell me the specifics and ill tell you how to fix it, and get titler to fix the installer again.
    Im at school atm, so i cant check to see where it places the files, so i cant check for definite.

    Sorry once more for all this hastle,
    ~incarnate

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    YOU ARE ALL VERY BAD PEOPLE

    And you shouldn't do this to poor old me, but for once, I think it's not my fault. I think.

    BEHOLD! Dulce working in Dark Crusade, timer correct, no HQ upgrade available.



    I've just removed all the map files, re-ran my installer, restarted Dark Crusade, and started the map to be absolutely certain, and it does work, I promise. And in Winter Assault too. What you may have done is missed that I've also tweaked the installer a little to make sure it avoids too much complication: The map files are installed slightly differently now, and as follows...



    It looks for your Winter Assault key, then installs at
    "Selected Location\WXP\Data\Scenarios\MP"

    Dark Crusade files are then installed to
    "Selected Location\Dawn of War - Dark Crusade\DXP2\Data\Scenarios\MP"

    If you've got WA installed, and like me have put Dark Crusade into the DoW folder as well, this will install both versions correctly. But you may have done it some other way. Nasty horrible people that you are! It shouldn't matter though, no matter where you point the installer at, it will seperate the installs out into a "Dawn Of War - Dark Crusade" folder and a "WXP" folder.

    If that's not what you see, and it's entirely possible I've uploaded the wrong file (due to my intermittant disabilities, I lose the ability to focus), then it is my fault. But if this is actually the installer as you've got it, it does all work. I promise.

    But you don't want the files in the WXP folder for Dark Crusade

    If you've pointed it at DC instead of WA, and unfortunately, you can't call a second install location key with this software so I couldn't automate DC as well, delete all the files created under WXP, and make sure that the folder "DXP2" under the created "Dawn Of War - Dark Crusade" sub folder is moved into your main DC DXP2 folder. It does work when in the correct folders. Please oh please let it work.

    Regarding the upgrade, I believe Incarnate has killed that throughout the game, and the reason it's turning up is that it's the wrong SCAR being used. But if it's not, it's appearing at a point I must have missed. If once you've got all the files lined up correctly, it's still there, please tell us which wave it's available in.

    But I will still hate you all :P Especially Troubleshooter. He's going to be demoted to clearance Infrared at this rate...

    Edit: I can, of course, just download the map as it's uploaded again to check. And it's time stamped as the same file as works on my system. Troubleshooter is thus declared an Enemy of The Titler, and a horrible communist to boot. 2000 Cred reward for the first person who fills Troubleshooter full of laser! Trust the Titler, the Titler is your Friend.
    Last edited by Titler; 11th Dec 06 at 8:18 AM.

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    Here is a full list of what the scar spawn and tech up does;

    Code:
    WA spawn;
    
    1)
    2 guardsmen
    1 chimera
    2commissar
    1 assassin
    2)
    3 guardsmen
    1 hellhound
    1 brom
    2 commissar
    priest unlocked to build
    3)
    2 kasrkin
    1 special basilisk
    2 psyker
    2 commissar
    assassin unlocked to build
    4)
    3 kasrkin
    1 npc russ
    1 command squad with 1 commissar attatched
    2 commissar
    Psyker unlocked to build
    Kasrkin quarters unlocked (kasrkin can be built once researched)
    5) onwards
    3 kasrkin
    1 npc russ
    1 command squad with 1 commissar attatched
    2 commissar
    3 priest
    Hq upgraded to hq 3(unlocks hero abilities)
    
    
    DC spawn
    
    1, 2, 3 ) -- same as WA spawn
    
    4)
    3 kasrkin with 4 genade launchers per squad
    1 npc russ
    1 command squad with 3 priest attatched
    2 commissar
    Psyker unlocked to build
    Kasrkin quarters unlocked (kasrkin can be built once researched)
    
    5) onwards
    3 kasrkin with 4 plasma per squad
    1 npc russ
    1 command squad with 3 priest attatched
    2 commissar
    Hq upgraded to hq 3(unlocks hero abilities)
    However titler, you took that photo before the upgrades were applied. Notice you only have 1 flag on the hq. you should have 4, as i upgrade the hq at game start with the units it produces, but disable them so they cant be built. They are then enabled later in the game in the spawn list above.

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    I ran the installer (after the system restore) and it only dumped the files to the WA folder.

    The problem may have been that the system restore had to rename some folders name(2) and thus the files for DC didnt get loaded to the right folder.

    I had to manually move the files to the DC folder - and I am pretty sure I put them in the WXP folder (cant confirm for another 10 hours or so...) Either way, I am sure that what happened is that I put the WA version in the DC folder, thus I get to go to tier 2


    Edit: I can, of course, just download the map as it's uploaded again to check. And it's time stamped as the same file as works on my system. Troubleshooter is thus declared an Enemy of The Titler, and a horrible communist to boot. 2000 Cred reward for the first person who fills Troubleshooter full of laser! Trust the Titler, the Titler is your Friend.
    I'm screwed... time to upload all my traitorous data to my clone army! Muwahahahaha *zzzzzzap* ... thud.

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    It looks for your Winter Assault key, then installs at
    "Selected Location\WXP\Data\Scenarios\MP"
    you mean;
    "Selected Location\Dawn Of War\WXP\Data\Scenarios\MP"
    we might end up having people putting both sets into thier DC folder!

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    IT DOES WORK! STOP GIVING ME HEART ATTACKS :P

    Treasonous Troubleshooter detected in WTF Sector! All loyal servants of The Titler must proceed via Express Delivery Rocket to WTF Sector at once and arrest him with Extreme Prejudice, before valuable Titler Property is further damaged!

    For those of you who don't understand this, google up the "Paranoia" role-playing game. Failure to correctly use Google is punishable by immediate termination. Thank you for your co-operation

    But seriously, can you check those folders when you get back TS? If you want to be certain you've got the right folders, delete the Dulce files under "WXP" in your DC install (if you pointed at the DC folder, that's where they will be), and the DC map will be under a sub folder called "Dawn of War - Dark Crusade": move that up so the DXP2 inside goes into the main DXP2 folder.

    If it doesn't make sense, just point the installer to somewhere completely different so you get both set of files in a clean directory. The Dow-DC\DXP folder goes to into the main DC directory. And the WXP is the WA files. Unfortunately, with just one regkey to play with, one set of files will always need a little helping hand, because you can't locate both... so I chose WA as the install key because it has to be in DoW, and with any luck, people will have chosen to put DC in the same folder again too, so I can guess the install path for DC as well. But if they haven't, you just have to hope the User has read the installer, because we can't do it all for them

    you mean;
    "Selected Location\Dawn Of War\WXP\Data\Scenarios\MP"
    we might end up having people putting both sets into thier DC folder!
    *scratches head*

    I don't think I do old chap; If you look at the picture of the installer, that's the path as it's offered to me from the RegKey for WA... and the output path for the wxp files is thus #installdir#\WXP... So if you made up a new folder to put it into, such as C:\Kippers, the files for WXP would then be at C:\Kippers\WXP\Data\Scenarios\MP. And DC would be at "C:\Kippers\Dawn of War - Dark Crusade\DXP2\Data\Scenarios\MP.

    As I say, it works for me, run installer, whack Next without looking what I'm doing, and it places for WXP (and DC, because it's in the same folder for me) correctly. And if you don't have DC installed into the DoW directory like WA must be, the map files will remain together, so you can install them manually yourself elsewhere without having to read the installer more closely and see where we else we guessed DC might be, he he.

    And the upgrades AREN'T available in this scar for DC, ran as far as the Heavy Weapons Teams unlock to check, no naughty Tier Upgrade icons for Mr Shooter to click in the HQ before his time I've not even got dressed yet, all I've done is keep playing Dark Crusade... go away, the lot of you :P
    Last edited by Titler; 11th Dec 06 at 10:12 AM.

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    LOL... I'll tell ya what - i will do a search on my whole C: drive for the map files, and delete them all. Then I will run the installer again and report my results. That is if I have any clones left before I get home

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    This is the best map I have played in skirmish for DoW DC ever! I have to say this is simply great. I really hope you release more of them, especially one for us people who stick to offline skirmish, that would be even better (that is if you can get better than this map!)

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    The installer is dropping the file here :

    C:\Program Files\THQ\Dawn of War\Dawn of War - Dark Crusade\DXP2\Data\Scenarios\MP

    Notice anything wrong...

    Unless I have a non-standard install, the maps should go here :

    C:\Program Files\THQ\Dawn of War - Dark Crusade\DXP2\Data\Scenarios\MP

    Nevertheless - I got the damn files and now I am going to play the damn map if you dont mind. Off to find some map exploits

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    Yes i found that out, and shouted at titler. something about thats where the 'non intellectuals' install, so anyone with any sense can move them manually.
    But hes preocupied with his stalker right now, so we'll leave him be.


    oh yes, DONT FORGET THE EASTER EGG!!

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    "Attention Citizens! Failure to read The Titler's words with loving reverence is indication of treasonous commie inclincations! Citizens trying to catch 40 winks during The Titler's words should report to their nearest Confession Booth to plead Friend Titler for suitable attitude adjustment. Failure to report those who fail to report is punishable by summary execution. Thank you."

    * Citizen Troublesh-O-TER 2 steps nervously into the booth *

    Friend Titler, I have been er, advised rather electrically that I should come to you for guidance...

    "Citizen! I hear you have been expressing doubts about The Titler's wisdom!"

    T: Well, er, you see, it's just that I had to move some of these files around and...

    "Fiddling with The Titler's files is punishable by immediate death by evaporation"

    No wait! I mean, evil invisible communist gremlins ruined The Titlers perfect installation technique and put the files over there in this directory instead of the one I wanted. As I know Friend Titler would never do anything to spite his beloved people, I just popped into this booth to let you know about this treasonous interference with your magnificent work.

    "Thank you for your concern, citizen. Your Pal would hate to think his citizens were unaware of The Titler's benevolance. Being so kind, The Titler has even automated the locating of Winter Assault for his citizens, which always cohabits with Dawn Of War. Unfortunatly, communist ninjas with mutant powers have stolen the plans for how to find Dark Crusade. And sadly, may of the people who will be using The Titler's work are of lowly Infrared status, and will become confused by complicated installation, or may even be harbouring treasonous install paths for Dark Crusade. And so The Titler wisely chose to keep both files together in which ever directory they were pointed at, and labelled one clearly as Dark Crusade. Should DC be inside Dawn Of War too, as Winter Assault is, it will also install automatically. The Titler could have guessed it would be at the default installation instead, but it would mean pointing concerned Citizens at two different locations for the files if evil bearded revolutionary location changing has occured.

    However! Friend Titler has already come up with a 200% perfect solution should another update be needed in the future, which will get around the inability to use just one regkey."

    T: Oh, I'd heard it was actually Incarnate's idea....

    ZAPZAPZAPKAPPOW *thud*

    "Treason does not pay. Thank you for your cooperation!"
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    Your quite the poster Titler,.....quite the poster.

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    x] nice map but when the reinforcements come like the 6th one... all of my guys and allies guys we're trapped. and they couldn't move untill we all had to use our balisks to shoot them out


    Great Map Though!
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    (off-topic but had to say it

    i actually searched these forums for more Titler posts ..

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    all of my guys and allies guys we're trapped. and they couldn't move untill we all had to use our balisks to shoot them out
    Yes, unfortunately despite hours and hours of tweaking the terrain, every now and then the AI will still tangle itself up, because although they can find their way out of the trenches, it will sometimes decide to retreat all it's troops back into them again, and if the other AI is moving forwards at the same and along the same paths, they run into each other and neither will back off. Hence why most of Relic's maps are exceptionally open, to give the AI lots of room to run merrily about; But hopefully we've got the balance between small trenches and huge armies blundering around down to the point at which jams aren't too common or unsolvable, even if alas sometimes they can't resist them still.

    And to Phlo, hopefully the rest of my posts were also entertaining, although they don't all involve chastising treasonous Troubleshooters They probably should though, he clearly needs it...

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    i played a round and loved it. The only problems i had were:

    1) Pathing especially with the basilisks in the trenches. That was a bugger
    2) Absolute ownage of the hellhound. Psykers should be able to curse, with only strip soul they are kinda useless
    3) If my bassies shot at something and it went out of LOS thye would follow it. Not ur fault but annoying

    Another note. Can the Artillery hit the inf cmds? i think they can, and that makes it too easy to crush them. Maybe thye should self heal or get more HP.
    Also kiddies, play this one with high resources (or quickstart for the more daring) and with take and hold OFF.

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    a mate of mine realized it crash after the final wave. He only tried it once though, so maybes its just him.

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    Some answers to your questions
    1) Vehicles and trenches never mix well, but titler spent hours tweaking the terrain to keep the tangle down to a minimum
    2) Psykers can curse, but only from wave 5 onwards i think. At that point your command squad will be able to use its orbital as well.
    3) Bassies do that, you have to put them on ranged stance, or tell them to bombard location instead.
    4) the long range artillery cannot hit the infantry commands, it can hit the first trench, but no further. Obviously your normal bassies can though when moved, as well as the third long range you get wave 3?
    5) Only one other person reported the crash, and that was fixed by giving him my working scar file. As your map works, you could simply give him your scar file and overwrite his.

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    Good grief, this was released nearly 6 years ago now. I hope you've all enjoyed it over that time... and to Incarnate if you're out there, thanks once again.

    I was up late just reminiscing with a friend about past gaming adventures, and the subject of DoW came up; we spoke about this game, and I couldn't for the life of me recall what the secret on this map was! So I opened the SCAR; it's just a disguised text file, Notepad will crack it open. And fortunately Incarnate had helpfully tagged all his code! And I thought I'd finally share the secret we snuck in for you all; here it is the HIDDEN EASTER EGG!

    Make sure you save a Carus Brom unit (http://wiki.reliccommunity.com/index...tle=Carus_Brom) from any of the waves, and at exactly 1 hour Game Time have him stood at the central point. Tricky if the enemy is still shelling away! Then when the clock ticks over, you should get a message flash up on screen which says "GET YER GROTZ ON!" and every surviving player gets 3 gretchin units.

    I considered originally just having a neutral gretchin hidden on the map somewhere, but it would always appear on the radar and potentially confuse the computer AI, so we got a bit more creative...!

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    Awesome! I've even looked at that scar file and not seen that!

    I too occasionally reminisce, considering adding to a dow nostalgia thread as it has been one of the big games in my life.

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    hello titler, very long time no see i remember that good time when when tested maps online with Incarnate. the old pal is no more modding Dow nor present in these forums, he went the Path of the Real Life, may it lead him to happiness.
    yes that eastern egg is unknown to the vast majority of those who played this map, quite fun the first time you see it ! you can't trigger it by pure luck, you have to know it.



    see you

    JL

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