[DC 1.1] Tau > IG... big surprise. :)

[Old Painless]

Why should you reduce the cost of both, no other race gets cheaper rax/armour combo to get cheaper asm etc. It should be slightly more difficult to access both.

Hell, try an IG Tactica AND IC build, thats what im comparing it to.

[Troubleshooter]

Why should you reduce the cost of both, no other race gets cheaper rax/armour combo to get cheaper asm etc. It should be slightly more difficult to access both.

Call it a hunch... but based on Tau capper fagility, Builder fragility and speed, and the premium cost on all tau units and buildings, I would say that as it stands, you cant do a 2 rax build for tau in tier 1 and be viable. Or perhaps its just that 2 FW squads is so much more effective than 1 of each. Who knows.

[Old Painless]

Capper fragility ? There invisible ....

[Troubleshooter]

Capper fragility ? There invisible ....

SM and possibly Necron are the only races that suffer from this as far as I can tell. SS hunting is very rewarding activity for most races.

YMMv.

Edit: fixed it... wrong race. Thanx das

[DA CAP'N]

chaos get cultists to detect... so id narrow it down to sm

[Troubleshooter]

fixed it

[OVFellblade]

And there I was just assuming you'd gone stark raving mad

[MoschBoy]

http://www.sirlin.net/archive/playing-to-win-part-1/

one of the most simplificating texts i have ever read.

you cant do a 2 rax build for tau in tier 1 and be viable. Or perhaps its just that 2 FW squads is so much more effective than 1 of each

i had some success with 2 barack builds, however, this was low ranked AM (~1300); still, a kroot nest and baracks get you a VERY good ranged and the best tier 1 cc unit. just pray your opponent didnt tech.

[Troubleshooter]

just pray your opponent didnt tech.

Prayer. I encourage it, but not for gaining an edge in automatch.

Quote:
http://www.sirlin.net/archive/playing-to-win-part-1/

Again, this essay has NOTHING to do with how the game is balanced, only played. IG doesnt even have something "broken" to beat Necrons over the head with. If you are insinuating that I drop IG for something that does have a counter to Necrons, I have... but only in team games. I use Auto match to sharpen my skills and test balance out. Bitching about broken balance is the only way to move forward on that front. Just dropping IG in auto for a better race is not the point... improving my skills and being able to comment on game balance with some authority is more important to me than IMBAing my way to 1500 on the ladder.

As for the IG/Tau MU... its one thing to have a broken BO that just shuts down IG hard... but even when Das tried this one he failed due to Tau IMBA in tier 3. CS flamers FTW. So even at the higher tier of play, you dont have a solution to the MU without running into a bug. So while I can duck the problem in team matches, Auto is still a no-go on this MU. Accepting that Sirlin has a good point about playing to win, that cant help me win in automatch where I am working IG to death. Switching to a more competitive race only leaves me with a blind spot for team matches. "playing to win" is fine for people who dont care about the game, only having 6 smurfs on the ladder to show off thier e-penis. Thats why all the 1.41 commie rushers went to tac massing SM in 1.5... milking the game for temporary glory is not what I am trying to accomplish here.

Let the hard core apm-junkies and ladder ego-maniacs have thier glory, I just want a team match where I dont have to switch to necron just to counter another necron because nothing else is worth playing. (chaos being a possible exception, but wont work with some MU combos.)

So I am already reduced to playing Nex in team matches to counter other nex... this is no way to enjoy the game. Furthermore, in our random-friendly matches, if just one of the 6 or so players we regularly have draws necrons, it utterly ruins the game... no fun when a good player draws crons... its an auto win. Relic is wasting my time with this balance issue... Sirlin cant help me with that.

[Deaths Abyss]

just pray your opponent didnt tech.

Or rushes either