HW1 Great Wars Mods All - Torrent
I'll try to keep the seed up for a few days.
Hmm... no luck with that crook sorry
Well not suprised - first try at making a torrent Thought it would be easy but apparently not.
Email in sections possibly?
Hey there boys and girls! Yes, I'm still here, sorry again about the lack of updates, between work, Uni and real-life stuff I havn't had much MODding time.
I do have some pics for you all though....
Still got work to do. The .MAD animation isn't working and the forward weapons are being a pain in the butt. What loser designed HW2 anyway. What a pain in the arse it is to MOD! Weapon effects are spread over three different folders for one! WTF! Why!? Sigh....
Sorry about that, been working on this Omega for ages and it still isn't done. HW2 is no where near as fun to MOD as HW1. Anyway, back on topic. The MOD is still alive and kicking, just moving slowly. Maybe I'll start work on a Sharlin for a while. Gotta get away from this Omega.
Thanks for that reminder. As frustrating as some things may be, it could be a lot worse.Originally Posted by DatonKallandor
10% of life is what happens to you and 90% is what you DO about it
Posted by Crook
Looks like that omega has 12 sided engines (ish). For the sake of a few more polys I'd bevel those ends in and model the interior of the engines instead of doing it with a flat texture. Not much of an increase in polys for a lot of benefit.
In fact, looking at the model I'd change some of the circular parts (the ends of the rotator and the engines) and I'd redo them with more polys. The larger the part the more polys should be spent on it. If necessary to keep the poly numbers down I'd do this at the expense of the detail on the front or the goblins.
For the engines I'd maybe go 16 or even 20 sided, and maybe more for the rotator as it's even larger. The actual jump in polys won't be much as compared to the benefit of detail you get from it.
Sounds like what happened in a topic about someones Omega at the TGU.
Heres a pic of my B5 EA Explorer Cortez:
Damn that Omega is friggin nice. Can you make a screenshot where its firing its array of front beams ? i fking like those beams.
Explorer is nice, too. But what use can it potentially have ?! Ressource docking station ?
Hey, nice work on that Explorer! I'm impressed. I think it'll look even better ingame.
Havn't got the front guns looking right yet. As soon as I do, I'll post some pics.
Hmmm, maybe it could be used to salvage wrecked ships and spit them out repaired?
thanks for that link crook!
what about making the explorer like a support frigat
i think the explorer could forfill multiple roles
it could be fitted with sensor modules, and used to collect salvage. if you could programme a seris of derelitic ships spread about multiplayer maps - u could use it to repair the derelitics and bring them under your control.
Perhaps it [Explorer] could also deploy Hyperspace Gates?
<molo> here's a question
<molo> what if a school blocked proxies
<molo> how would you get around them
Can you please put the Great Wars Mod back up on your site for download. I got a hankering to play it again but b5mods is down and probably wont come back . Ill make sure that the mod finds its way over to filefront or something so everyone can get it off there. Or can anyone else send it to me Im desperate. firstname.lastname@example.org
Last edited by Tr0oper; 22nd Mar 07 at 6:16 AM.
Hey guys, got some pics of the Omega's new weapon effect....
Still not perfect but I want to get working on the Warlock.
I can upload GW for you to download, but you 'll have to wait a few days.
cant wait to play with that baby
keep up the good work !
I can wait a few more days, thanks Zeelich. Omega looks sweet btw
Wow, that's sexy. Also, my heart jumps at the announcement of the Warlock. Can't wait to see that big boy ingame. I wish I could do anything to help, but I'm a 2-d man... all that modelling stuff is way over my head.
Last edited by Riess; 23rd Mar 07 at 7:48 AM.
aiaiai that looks gorgeous. Now a battlecrab with slicer beam pls
great, very good work !
I am forced to ask if the Omega could be released as a stand alone teaser?
Hmmm.... no. However, I might be willing to release each race seperatly so you can get them sooner. Kind of a way off yet though.
Uploaing Great Wars 2.5 now. Wont take long.
Here ya go....
I've got some WIP pics of the Warlock too, show them in a little bit. Also, I\m having trouble finding good reference material. Any help with that would great.
And here we go.... Nothing special, but it's a start.
Anyone had any thoughts on the resource system this MOD might use? I'm not sure about the whole Stations = Comand points idea.
Last edited by Zeelich; 26th Mar 07 at 12:55 AM.
Warlock, very nice, even unskinned
Ressource system...how about the standard B5 one :P Harvesters harvesting some kind of ressource, similar to the Startrek Armada 2 B5 mod.
IMO, the Warlock was one of the better concepts from the show that had a lot of interesting ones.
great shadow battlecrab!
A sharlin in the future perhaps?
Thanks.Nope but maybe a EA fueltanker in the near future as I have only one extremely low quality image of the EA fueltanker atm?
Yeah, I know the engines are different. I used a mixture of the B5Tech images and the GreatWars Warlock. All the pics I've seen for the Warlock are different so I sorta combined them. Didn't really like the look of the B5Tech engines when I did them.
Got some more pics. First the finished mech....
And some WIP pics of the textures....
Hmmm, I might change the engines. What do the rest of you guys think?
Looks pretty good to me. Found no reason to critize
it looks evil and powerfull and for some reson i feal like making love to it
@ Zeelich : great stuff, I would focus on polishing it off as it is.
Well my warlock version is based on the pic from B5tech and the pics and the actual .lwo mesh from the Warlock 3 project website.
Busy redoing my Var'Nic's main hull tex atm in 2048x2048 pixels as my current tex at 512x512 sucks major!!!!!!!
Last edited by maxdamage; 30th Mar 07 at 4:52 PM.
Thanks for uploading the mod Zeelich, Im having a blast with it.
Warlock 3 Project?
Got some more pics....
I've been thinking about the resource system. I'm hoping to replace asteriods with stations (EA, Narn and centauri) That way they will start off neutral. If I can I'd like to make them capturable and have sub-systems to allow construction of extra dock points and the ability to build certain ships, eg: Defence Platforms. Shuttles will take the place of resource collecters and will 'dock' to 'gather' manpower and bring it back to your commandship/carrier's.
Not sure about how it'll work for the stations gametype, but we'll sort that out later.
OOOOH I like... I'm a big fan of B5! This thread and what I have seen so far rocks!
I agree. Once I get back in a modelling mood I'm going to contribute to this mod somehow, but I seem to have lost the modeling will somewhere...
http://warlock3pro.tripod.com/.Same link I provided earlier with the B5 tech url.Whats up with those 3 pics of your warlock?Can only see the bottom half of each pic....Can you please convert them into jpgs for easier viewing?posted by Zeelich
Warlock 3 Project?
Thanks.Why not create a EA fuel-tanker for a resourcer?
Heres a pic of my Var'Nic with its new main hull tex:
Somehow I'm not satisfied with the narn hull pattern...
Last edited by maxdamage; 10th Jul 07 at 2:23 PM.
Don't stress Crook, between, work, uni and life it's hard to find the energy.
should be working now.
Yeah, the pattern isn't right. It needs to be more triangular. Hmmm, the inner hull could use some more detail modeled in too.
You say you have the Warlock3 mesh? Can you send it to me?
Yes I have it and will upload it to my server space at TGU and pm the url to you! atm my Var'Nic has 4530 polys.Doubt that I'll add more detail to it.As to the resourcer what about using the EA freighter like in the HW:GW 3 v2.5 mod?
Please check your inbox here for my pm with url to the file.
Last edited by maxdamage; 6th Apr 07 at 2:56 PM.
Shit, I spend an hour typing and it times me out. I'll post what I was going to tomorrow.
Regarding the Warlock Vs. Sharlin - The Warlock has two weapons equivalent to what the Sharlin has, and those are fixed position weapons. The Sharlin, on the other hand, has at least five or six main guns from what i've seen, and they can alter direction and can fire long beams for dealing with starships, or short pulses for dealing with fighters. Not to mention the Sharlin has that stealth system, and it carries the superlative Nial-class fighter. Not to mention the Sharlin probably has a few more of those main guns (B5 tech said it has 18, and it's the best resource aside from the tv-shows themselves). That's a HUGE advantage for the Sharlin that few people seem to take into account - the Warlock is known to have, fixed-position main guns, the Sharlin has at least 5 or 6, and they can change direction.
hmmm, seems my bandwith as run out again. Does anyone know where I can find free hosting?
Got you PM, thanks Max. Oh, can I get some of thoses meshes off you? Especialy the Posieden and the shuttle.
The Var'Nic seems very plane, 4530 polys isn't much. A few thousand more want hurt.
Last edited by Zeelich; 8th Apr 07 at 10:08 PM.
I'll update the pic for a better view of the ship.The first pic was at a bad angle but hid detail that you couldn't normally see.... .You must refresh the page to reload the new image.
As for the meshes I dunno as the Poseiden still has to be re-texture mapped for most of the ship .The EA shuttle is finished but I dunno.....
Last edited by maxdamage; 9th Apr 07 at 2:58 PM.
Don't stress about the textures. I want to get a few key ships in, even untextured so I can have a break from modelling/texturing and do some scripting. I also want to mess around with the resource systems, see which is best. And which works with teh orginal HW2 sips ingame. Sort of a proof of concept. Some I can release with those who are helping out.
Heres two of my B5 ships in-game done a long time ago by using objinserter.The meshes have been changed drastically since then.
I was curious - do you have seperate playing styles imagined/lined up for each different race? By what we've heard and seen in the shows, each of the different races should be remarkably different from the other.
Fighters should play a much bigger role here than they did in HW2. They should actually be able to threaten a capital ship; as we've seen repeatedly throughout the show, fighters were able to pose a significant threat even to the largest of capital ships. I think that fighters should actually be able to make a fair difference in the middle of a firefight.
For example, we know for a fact that the Minbari have the most powerful ships, hands down, of all the younger races. I was thinking that maybe the Minbari should have the best speed, armor, and firepower off all the other races, and have a decent fighter capacity, but they should be the most expensive. It would just seem to fit.
The Centauri are known to have excellent weapons and good speed, but they don't exactly have lot of armor. The Primus tends to epitomize a glass cannon; they should be a tough fight, but if you can get the drop on them by firing the first volley, you'd stand better chances of coming out on top.
The Narn... would be a little different. In order to get a more varied style, they should build dedicated combat ships that are on par in terms of firepower and maybe armor (but likely a little slower) than equivalent ships, but they're cheaper and quicker to build. But then again, they'd require dedicated carriers for fighter support, which means that if fighters are going to be actually worthwhile in this game, the Narn would be at a disadvantage unless the build carriers for their fleets.
Earth Force should probably be the most balanced of all the races - average armor, firepower, and speed, with good fighter capacity, but not really excelling in one area or another. They wouldn't be weak, by any means, but in a one on one fight, they run a fair chance of losing.
The ISA would be a tacticians favorite race - using mostly smaller ships, that are fast, but not well armed or armored. They'd likely be a late game powerhouse (because then they'd get access to the Whitestar, Victory, and even the accursed Valen), but until then they'd be fairly vulnerable to a direct assault. For reference, the only reason i'm including the Valen is because it'd be there to make things more interesting; it was proven to be fast, it's likely well armed, but it never seemed to be very survivable. It felt to me like it epitomized raider tactics - it gets in, hits hard, and then gets out. Something considerably cheaper than the Victory (most expensive, yet most powerful ship in the game), but you still wouldn't be able to stand and fight with it.
League of Non-Aligned Worlds... I was thinking they'd be similar to the Zerg - just relying on a horde of weak, yet inexpensive craft to do their dirty work. They'd be a rusher's best friend for sure.
The Drakh, I was thinking, would be closer to the Minbari, but a step or two down in firepower, and not relying on fighters at all, prefering to use capital ships (they'd still have those little corvette thingy's that nearly took out Delenn's Whitestar fleet, but they're not real fighers). Mostly I was thinking they'd be here purely for the visual aesthetic, not because they offer crazy new tactics or anything.
These are just my thoughts on the mod; by no way do I mean to force my ideas upon you. These are just things I thought up and figured would make things a little more interesting by providing entirely different playing styles.
That seems pretty much accurate.
Different play style is good if you want to get a mod off the drawing board... just imagine if you added the Vorlon or Shadow races to this already large list of races... and we know already that both are not consider to be part of the younger races... both are actually the left over of the older races that ascended to a higher plane
what about build time.... the time it takes to rebuild your fleet is a big advantage in a fight
if you can make some of the least advanced races build faster they would get an advantage over ISA or the minbari
with grate tec comes grate buildtime
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