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Not individually, no, but I bought them as one book. Eisenhorn trilogy or something.I ordered the book through Akademibokhandeln (one of the biggest bookstores in Sweden) and they took contact with the publisher which said all three books (Xenos, Malleus, Hereticus) are no longer printed.
Havn't read Inquisitor Wars, so I cannot comment on it. However...
It doesn't break out in happy-clappy bits of high-tech isn't-this-a-wonderful-place like Eisenhorn didEisenhorn Happy?
Dozens of characters we become close with die. People are betrayed simply to further the work of another Inquisitor. Eisenhorn approaches love in a realistic, no happy happy joy joy all will be okay way. How in the world is Eisenhorn happy clappy? He spends 2 books building up Eisenhorns love then kills her in the opening chapters of the 3rd!
Look at the world around him though. The technology is squeeky-clean except when he goes to real slums. It never feels like the Imperium, it feels like the Imperium with the rough edges (of religion in particular) removed, smoothed frictionless and then polished for good measure. It is a good look at imperial politics and the psychological aspects of an Inquisitor's life and has some interesting asides (the Saruthi are a cool race FE) but it doesn't seem to all be there.
I was rather OTT in my criticism originally, sorry. I stand by my altered version though
mm..Fair enough, but one of the major cities the story takes place in is constantly choked and wracked by horrible pollution. But the insanity of the imperial religeon is lessened I think, but we have to bear in mind the story is in the first person of one of those very zealots.
Look at the Witchhunter who comes after him for an example of the fanatics. Or the one who flays that guy. Or... well. There are examples. But as whatsisface just up there said, it's a single PoV tale. Eisenhorn isn't going to think the same thing is fanatic as we do, because he is one.
These are all the novels I count ATM, did I miss any????? I have 4 now
Angels of Darkness
Annihilation Squad
Caves of ICE Cain Novel
Crimson Tears Soul Drinkers 3
Crossfire Novel
Crucible of War Novel
Crusade FOR Armageddon
Daemon World Novel
Dark Imperium Novel
Dawn of War
Deathwatch Graphic Novel
Deathwing
Deff Skwadron
Deus Encarmine Blood Angels
Double Eagle Hardcover Novel
Fire Warrior
First and Only 40K Novel
FOR the Emperor
Ghostmaker Novel
Grey Hunter Novel
Grey Knights 40K Novel
Guns of Tanith Novel
Honour Guard Ghost's Novel
Iron Hands 40K Novel
Kill Team Novel
Legacy 40K Novel
Lord of the Night
Malleus
Necropolis Gaunts Ghost Novel
Pawns of Chaos
Ragnar's Claw Novel 40K
Ravenor
Ravenor Returned
Sabbat Martyr
Shadow Point
Soul Drinker Novel
Space Wolf Novel
Storm of Iron Novel
Straight Silver Ghost Novel
The 13th Black Crusade
The Battle FOR Armageddon
The Bleeding Chalice Novel
The Inquisition War
Titan GOD Machine
Traitor General Guants Hardbck
Warriors of Ultramar
What Price Victory
Wolfblade
Words of Blood Novel
Xenos
Medieval Real Time, Mount and Blade style Historical Combat.
Cailet: You were right. Crossfire is pretty good. I just started it again last night. Other than a few minor tense problems, I'm loving it. Well written and, more importantly, a pretty good story.
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Another book to the list...
Deus Sanguinius.
Really good, but you have to read the first one...How ironic...to enjoy a good book, you have to read a not so good book.
Also started reading Ravenor last night...so far its pretty good. Not as epic as Eisenhorn, but just as intense
500 Days...
Well I could not get the 1st soul drinker book so am reading the second one in the series. No bad so far really. Very dark world. Humans definently not the good guys, culture kinda communist\dictatorship with a lot of death and feelings of individuals being insignificant. Kinda the opposite to what western civs are like today where everybody is taught they are super-important and must be heard.
As I said very dark and thats what makes it interesting to read, would not want to live in their world.
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The Inquisition War - one of the few books I have ever actually regretted reading.
So. Can someone tell me where the plot went? I was keeping an eye on it all the way through books 1 and 2, but I must have glanced away when I started book 3 and the plot ran off. I think it is behind my sofa.
I get that Draco went nuts, but that is not a good reason for an author to abandon his plot. It is bad writing, and it is all the worse because the author is talented and I enjoyed some of his other books (Deathhunter & Miracle Visitors), and so he should know better.
For a comparison, imagine at the end of The Two Towers, instead of heading into Mordor, Frodo and Sam decide to turn around, go back and try and resurrect their old pal Boromir, and everyone pretty much forgets about the One Ring and Sauron and the whole coming war and everything.
Now, Tolkien may have made us believe that Frodo and Sam would have done that, but you would still have put The Return of the King down in disgust as Frodo dies by his own insane, hobbit hand and Sam runs off into the wilderness.
Perhaps I am being a bit unfair, but for me the plot was the one thing the book had going for it. Everything else was either pedestrian or downright sloppy. Once the plot went south, it seemed to me that Watson had decided to just give the reader a tour of the WH40K universe, and the plot had got in the way of that.
Abnett is not a great author by any means, but he does what he does very well, and has a gift for describing and melding action with setting.
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Chaos child was quite mad yes. Personally I feel that the Hydra needed some more resolution in Chaos Child, the insanity was fun but it obscured the meta-plot. It'd be nice if he did a connected book (not a Draco book but maybe starring Baal Firenze or someone) to tidy up some of the shadowy doings in the sides of Harlequin and Chaos Child. I'm good with the story being left open but a bit more resolution would be good.
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Upon hearing all of the harrowing and appalling horror stories about the utterly dire nature of Simon Spurrier's novelisation of the execrable Fire Warrior computer game, I purchased the book out of morbid curiosity to assess just how an atrocity could be made manifest. Much to my surprise, I actually found it to be quite readable.
Please don't kill me, let me explain!
Of course, as a card-carrying Fluffist, I find the ability for Kais, a stripling on his first combat operation (regardless of whether he's "The Terror" or not, he only has two hands), to blast his way through entire companies of Imperial Guard, Storm Troopers, Space Marines, Dreadnoughts, Chaos Marines and Greater Daemons to be a stupid and disgusting notion and grossly offensive to me - I am in no way seeking to excuse the terrible plot. The aura of invulnerability that surrounds this shas'la is so absurd that even someone who's never heard of Warhammer 40,000 in his life would find it hard to swallow.
But I do find it necessary to apologise for Simon Spurrier. He didn't choose that plot, he was saddled with such an onerous and ponderous albatross when he was commissioned to write the adaptation. It seems that Spurrier has recognised the inherent faults in his source material, because he has compensated it to a substantial extent by creating a novel that is nonetheless quite well-written. He's veritably bedecked the pages with all manner of lavish, voluptuous depictions of chaos, destruction, slaughter and carnage in scintillating, iridescent detail. You can palpably sense that Spurrier is enjoying himself as he lovingly carresses the gobbets of flesh sailing through the air after the latest grenade blast with the torrent of evocative language streaming from his pen - there are some excellent visualisations, such as how a ruin "dribbled condensation incontinently" (although the part where he talks about "shrapnel flatulence" was a little difficult to take seriously). He's done his best to cram in lots of background detail (e.g. a strategic conference provides an excuse for an aside on the formation of the tau'va), so it's a fairly good reference for people who don't own the Tau Codex, either.
Spurrier also handles the psychology of the characters sensibly and realistically, especially the twisted internal monologue that chitters, bawls and weeps within Kais, as well as the burning shame of unworthiness to his distant father's memory. In addition to this, Spurrier has appreciated that in the world of warhammer 40,000 there are no happy endings - as such, the epilogue isn't simply a neat bow-tie of the verbal package where everyone jets home for tea and medals, but has a bitter, sombre atmosphere that highlights the harsh nature of the Dark Millenium well (something you also see in sections where he spends an entire page building up a record of someone's great achievements - only to kill him off in one line). The final, parting sentence is also a wonderful, magnificent touch and grants a good deal of meaning too.
So, I think we should at least show Spurrier sufficient good grace to accept that he's made his best of what was a bad job to begin with. Yes, the storyline is dreadfully, nauseatingly ridiculuous; but Spurrier has done his utmost best to allieviate that galling poison by rescuing the horrific shambles and turning it into a decent page-turner.
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Out of curiosity, can I ask those who have both played the game and read the book - how 'faithful' was Spurrier to the original game (something of a paradox, I know, seeing as how the game was as unfaithful as you can get)? Were there any flashbacks to his father's stare of reprobation, wrestling with the Mont'au, or El'Lusha explaining how his father was a dirty snae'ta? Or were those and similar features purely Spurrier's invention?
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Nope. In the game, Kais had no flashbacks and there was not a mention of his past or emotions. You were just a cold, speechless, emotionless killer. The idea of a daemon within him was purely the invention of Spurrier.
Anything that wasn't from the perspective of Kais was not in the game, with the exception of a meeting between Ardias and the Admiral. There is very little dialogue in the game... for the most part, you just take very vague orders from Lusha. Lusha himself takes no part in the game at all, other than a little voice on the battlenet.
As far as the player knew, Kais didn't have a father, and there was virtually not backstory at all, other than a series of holographic lectures that you have the option to read in the training level. My guess it that most players never listened to them. Lusha never fought, you never even saw a Crisis Suit. It was just standard FPS fare the entire game.
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If that's so, then I can only emphasise my desire to applaud Simon Spurrier in my review above. With such a basic premise as the Fire Warrior game, he could have easily dashed it off in several conjoined battle scenes and quite justifiably considered his task accomplished. Yet he didn't succumb to sloth, and made in his book genuine effort to haul the game out of the abyss which Kuju Entertainment had sunk it into and impart to it multifaceted perspectives, character and depth. I think the man deserves a commendation for making such an atrocious game a good novel. I saw him demonstrating considerable talent for the Warhammer 40,000 universe in his work on Book III of Daemonifuge - this confirms the fact that the man has skill.
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Hahaha, well, I admit I never saw it from that perspective before. While I would not go so far to call it a good book, I think tolerable would fit. I didn't feel like I wasting my time, which is more than I can say for many books. There were a few parts that I really enjoyed. While anything from Kais' perspective seemed odd and intolerably repetetive (I think he must have copied and pasted the same internal conflict at least 7 times), I really liked the different perspectives. The arrogant Stormtrooper commander and the emotionless techpriest from the boarding party are two that come to mind.
read the whole soul drinker trilogy best book eververy dark, shows you the imperiaum from the perspective of an excommunicated chapter and believe me the imperial are borderline bad guys. heres a bit of a break down of both books( contains a few spoilers)
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Soul drinker (how they became excommunicated plus insight to imperiuam)
bleeding chalice (searching to find a cure to there mutations) (read first one you'll understand) has a lot about inquisition and sisters of battle
crimson tears (wont spoil this lets just say there looking for someone) (larger sections of book on there new recruits and on a squad of promising scouts, crimsion fists make an appearence in book plus dark elder.) has a good description on the space marines you'll know what i mean when you read that section.
But am hoping the writer makes more cause they show so much promise.
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which novel is it about when theres three boys joining a space marine chapter and its basically about there induction into it?
Space Marine.
Space Wolf is similar too but there are more involved.
Good luck finding Space Marine though. Saw it on Ebay for $10 once but I don't have an account :damnu: . Amazon has 2 copies for sale in their marketplace, but you don't really want to pay $75 do you? I hear the book is good, but I can't see a book being $75 good
just got through 'ravenor' last week. enjoyed it, but the pseudo cliffhanger kinda bugged me. looking forward to 'ravenor returned'.
loved the eisenhorn trilogy.
the inquisition war had its moments, but overall was pretty awful in my opinion.
read 'grey knights' and enjoyed it. could have been better, could have been worse. great description of daemon worlds.
'the bleeding chalice' was pretty good. more nasty daemons, but it lacked a bit in substance... of course i didn't read the first book, so that may have had something to do with it.
that's about all the 40k books i've read.
Let's see...personally, I have around 18 W40k books, with around 5 more on the way.
Gaunt's Ghost series - The first Warhammer 40k books I read. Absolutely phenomal story telling, balls-and-guts-and-brains-to-the-wall action, incredible characters and character development, and Gaunt is one badass Colonel-Commissar. I dearly love this series.
Ravenor - Looks great. Can't wait till I have some free time to sink my teeth into it.
Grey Knights - Awesome action and finally some great background info on the Grey Knights! Interesting characters, and an extremely well done plot - Everything comes together. Closure is good.
Ciaphas Cain series - I love this series. It's such a departure from the norm due to the first person perspective of Commissar Cain, who is a really deep and complex character. Action is great, and it's funny to boot. Only critique would be the conspiracies in the first two books are a bit too similar, but still great nonetheless. Gonna dig into the third soon.
Space Wolf series - I really like these books. William King goes through great detail in describing everything, and the action is quite itense. It can get quite wordy and long-winded, but it's worth it.
Storm of Iron - Hands down the best Chaos book written to date. It takes a chapter or two to get into it, but boy, it is an incredibly intense ride. TITANS KICKING EACH OTHERS' ASSES!! Wonderful character development; for once Chaos characters aren't JUST psychotic blood thirsty killers, but have motivations, depth and desires (Don't get me wrong, they're still despicable, and you'll want them dead just the same). My only qualm would be the depictment of the loyalist Space Marines; they die too easy and aren't the best soldiers.
Soul Drinker - Currently half way done with the first book, and eager to get into the second; third one arriving shortly. This is a wonderful book and a great look into the psyche of a Space Marine. You will want to kill the Adeptus Mechanicus. Great action and story telling.
Titan graphic novel series - Mind blowing. That is all.
My take:
For the Emperor: An action packed novel that focuses on the "hero" of the Imperium. What makes this book fun to read is the "hero" spends most of time trying to figure out ways to avoid the battle front. There are some predictable parts in the novel but the characters are lively enough to keep on reading.
Soul Drinker: An interesting story that describes the downfall of the Soul Drinker Chapter from the Imperium. I find that some of the narratives are too long on details which detract from the storyline.
The Bleeding Chalice: A sequel to the Soul Drinker. Overall I didn't like the novel because the narrative focused too much on the Inquisitor chasing down the Soul Drinkers in a cat and mouse game. I found myself reading the first few chapters and the last few chapters and not losing in the way of story.
BTW, are there any novels that focus on the Tau?
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Firewarrior, even though it is very un-fluffey and a lot of people dislike it.
Deus anything very good books right there
the bleeding chalice (even though i only go though half of it)
and who could forget the reson im at these forums DAWN OF WAR
"Space Marine" was such a well written book. from the characters beginning in the Necromunda underhive to their recruitment by the Imperial Fists to the campaigns against Chaos cultists and Squats to their first taste of war versus the tyrannids. Plus appearances by Titans. It really covered most of the 40k spectrum; Necromunda, 40k and epic.
Made you see the Space Marines in a different light. And it was one of those increasingly rare books where the ending doesn't let the rest of the book down.
Just too bad that it wasn't a very long book, only 2 or 300 pages.
Quite enjoyed Double Eagle - makes a real change from Dan Abnett's usual ground-and-pound IG meatshield fiction, and he has obviously done his homework once again as the aerial action is quite convincingly described. It misses out on the gritty flavour of the Gaunt's Ghosts books though, since being airborne robs the battles of the grisly melee of the GG action scenes. It all felt a bit too clean and polished, and the chaos enemy never really felt threatening or, well, chaotic enough. Biggles would not have found himself out of place or even out of time here, and that is a bit surprising for a tale of dark future conflict. Still it is very readable and often unputdownable in the usual Abnett style.
Read two of the Ciaphus Cain books "For the Emperor" and "Caves of Ice". Both were reasonably good. Quite a few jokes and puns and lines from movies thrown in, and clearly did not take themselves too seriously, which might not sit well with some readers. Going for the "Catch-22 of WH40k" title?
Flenser
I've just started Double Eagle and it does feel like W.E Johns in the far future but with some better pacing (so far).
The Cain books are fun. Decent storylines but the humour wins it.
Does anyone know of any other books that have massive battles in it like Storm of Iron? I have picked up a few others but it seems like the authors want to talk more about society and once in a while a battle. Sorry if someone has already asked this but I couldn't find anything on the search bar.
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Oh I see, So if you have a Fortification that MAKES the gene seed it can be outfitted with every conciveable defense the Imperium has to offer.
Now if they only STORE the gene seed then i guess we can just put it in vending machines that require photo ID on random planets. And If the Virus Bomb was a weapon of last resort It was a poor choice considering the Marines were capable of surviving for weeks inside the fortress. It's actually pretty dumb unless your trying to write a second rate 40k novel. I wonder what these Tacticly Savvy Deathwing Base designers were thinking when they designed this?
Deathwing Genius #1 "OK we need a last resort weapon that will prevent the gene seed from falling into enemy hands. Any Ideas?"
Deathwing Realist "How 'bout we have a big melta bomb that will turn the base into slag so it will never be able to be used?"
Deathwing Genius #1 "Hmmm thats ok but it would be a shame to blow up such a swell base."
Deathwing Genius #2 "Maybe if we smother the gene seeds in Milk Chocolate any foes who invade the base will think their chocolate covered Apricots and eat them?"
Deathwing Genius #1 "Hmmm not bad, very devious, but it would never work. Now if we had some Dark Chocolate we'd be getting somewhere.
Deathwing Realist "Errr How bout we just put it in a heavily defended military instilation, with more than 5 of our battle brothers defending it, that is close to other military stongpoints so it could be quickly reinforced incase of attack?"
Deathwing Genius #1 "Naa that will never work too obvious."
Deathwing Genius #2 "Oh I got it! Lets put a Virus Bomb in the base that will wipe out the everyiving thing on the planet, everything except foes in power armor."
Deathwing Realist "Hmm considering every one of our foes that would want the gene seed uses power armor I don't think thats such a good idea. "
Deathwing Genius #1 "wipe out the everyiving thing on the planet, everything except foes in power armor.... Brilliant!!!"
Deathwing Genius #2 "Brilliant!!!"
Deathwing Realist "yeah I'm gonna go see if the Space Wolves are hiring.."
Seriously If you think about it for just over 30 seconds This book makes less sence than Caddyshack 2. I really can't Believe this tripe came from someone they call the Official "Lore Master" of GW. I think I should check their Help wanted section of their website. Im fairly certain that the position of Games Workshop "Common Sence Master" is still available.
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Then edit the story yourself, send it to GW..ask for approval to publish it then do it.
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Just finished Ravenor. Loved it. So, I just ordered Ravenor Returned on Amazon.com. (cheaper than ordering from the black library)
The Liber Chaotica books must be mentioned. Each one of these four books takes a in-depth look at one of the Chaos Gods, and is filled with anecdotes, theories about the nature of hte gods, and descriptions of the various demonic entities and champions who serve them. An excellent book. Additionally, over the course of the four you can watch as the "author of the manuscripts" goes slowly insane.
"But," you say, "I thought that the Liber Chaotica books were out of print!" Silly fool! GW just recently released The Liber Chaotica Complete, all four of the books combined into one, with more speculation on each, more miscellaneous material, and more information about the nature of Chaos Undivided.
So get out there and buy it!
For massive battles. not much. The Uriel Ventris novels perhaps.
It's a bit off topic, but am I the only person on earth that doesn't like the Ben Counter novels? Personally I feel like the guy spends more time making sure he gets the lingo and terminology right than the plot. His books seem extremely dry and not nearly as compelling as Mitchell or Abnett or Thorpe.
the Original 1987 rouge trader rule book is an entertaining read...besides the rules i mean.
its got some good short stoires in it
Formerly B.B.
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if anyone is still looking around for Liber Chaotica books, you can avoid spending lots of money on amazon and ebay for the original limited editions and get the new COMPLETE Liber Chaotica including the newly released fifth chapter: Liber Undivided, new release from the Black Library, only £30 GBP, goes into extreme detail of Chaos from the view of an unwilling (Warhammer- Brettonian?) archiver. definitely worth a read.
it's been a while!
Its a sigmarite priest, and yes, its awesome.
1. Blood Money and 2. Blood and Steel- About a bounty hunter in warhammer world.
Riders of the Dead- About Empire and Chaos.
Fifteen-Hours- About IG and Orks.
I love the Graham Mcneill Ultramarine novels.
The soul drinkers series by ben coultier.
Eisenhorn, Eisenhorn, Eisenhorn!!
Ravenor, Ravenor, Ravenor!!
the Space wolves books are fun but they aren't nearly grim enough for me - too fantasy like.
The Gaunt's Ghost books - anything by Dan Abbnet.
i have only read one Warhammer book and thought it was great, 'Caves of Ice'. Comissar Cain and the Valhallan (onehelloalot)ths battle orks, necrons and weird things called ambulls on an ice planet, very cool
I have no problem with God, I just can't stand his fan club.
Ahh, and thats the second in the series as well. I recommend reading "For the Emperor" the first, followed by the third (which, alas, I have not had the pleasure of enjoying yet).
I am reading "15 hours" and I really like it so far, a bit hard to start, but I think everyone will like it once they get into it.
The whole Commisar Cain series is the best one in WH40K (of course, I have yet to read any Gaunt's Ghosts or other Dan Abnett stories).
I just finished 15 Hours. Took me like, 3 hours it was so short. While it was good, I odnt think it really felt very Warhammerish. More like just an ultra-bleak story about some stupid city on some stupid planet.
I also just finished Lord of the Night. This book was awsome, and it gave a great glimpse of the Chaos Space Marine chapter Night Lords (thats where I get my sig). This one is reasonably long, and took me 10 hours to finish (with breaks for meals).
If you want my advice, steer clear of "Dead Sky, Black Sun." This book is violent, yes, but terribly written. It was all I could do to finish it.
Also skip the book "Gray Knights" for the same reasons. However, I highly recommend the Space Wolf series. I have only red the last two books, but they are good.
If you are not the kind of person to read long stories, go for the collections. Dark Imperium, and um... I forget the other two I own, but they are pretty good.
Who, ok, I went through my library and pulled every WH40K book I own (excluding Space Wolf, because I haven't read it yet), and I will now rate and review each in turn. If I have already reviewed the book in my post above, I will just rate it.
Lord of the Night: 8/10 (previously reviewed)
Eisenhorn: I just got done with this book last night. Took me 12 hours (spread out over 3 days) to do it, but I finally read all 764 pages. Xenos and Malleus were pretty good, but the connecting short story sucked. I also didn’t much care for Hereticus, and I had already read the second short story elsewhere.
I felt that Abnett should have put more detail into Quixos and Cherubael, and eliminated a few characters, but still, it was a reasonably good collection, and defiantly worth a buy (nearly 800 pages for $10.00!). 7/10
Double Eagle: This book was well written, but it doesn’t feel at all like WH40K materiel. Its worth a look for anyone interested in Imperial airpower, but not recommended for anyone that doesn’t like a WWII-style air war.
6/10
Fifteen Hours: 5/10 (previously reviewed)
Dawn of War: A reasonably well-written version of the war on Tartarus. Worth a look to anyone interested in seeing the game a new way. Note: don’t buy this book if you are planning to play the game, it has spoilers.
7/10
For the Emperor: 8/10 (previously reviewed)
Caves of Ice: 7/10 (previously reviewed)
The Traitor's Hand: 7/10 (previously reviewed)
Grey Hunter: 9/10 (previously reviewed)
Wolfblade: 9/10 (previously reviewed)
Gray Knights: 5/10 (previously reviewed)
Iron Hands: I barely remember this book, but I do recall hating it. I don’t remember why, so I'm just going to say skip it.
5/10
Crucible of War: 8/10 (previously reviewed)
What Price Victory?: 8/10 (previously reviewed)
Dark Imperium: 8/10 (previously reviewed)
Deus Encarmine: This story sucked. Hard. It was poorly written, the plot stank of rancid filth, and it was a total waste of money. Only a die-hard fan of the Blood Angels should even consider buying this putrid tome.
4/10
Deus Sanginius: Just like the first book in this pair, this book is horrible. I say only buy it if you have read the first or are a fan of the Blood Angels.
4/10
Storm of Iron: This book was ok, nothing special. You guys went on and on about it like it was holy work or something, and I order it and wait a week to get it, then shell out $7.00, and its only average. The titan parts are limited, and the characters are weak. Still, it’s worth a read.
7/10
Dead Sky, Black Sun: 4/10 (previously reviewed)
Abnett's 'Gaunt's Ghosts' series is awesome, They all are, too bad I can only find 3 from the series.....
McNeil's 'Storm of Iron' RULED. I've read his first 2 Ultramarines books, on the 3rd now, 'Dead Sky, Black Sun', really trippy descriptions of hell and the warp and extra-dimensional real-space travels, good so far, I like how McNeil intertwined Storm of Iron's Honsou into the story so far...
The 'Space Wolf' series is a bit cliche, but still the first 2 in the series I have read are solid and intertaining books.
Scanlon's '15 Hours' was a good read, a good character study book with a very specific, dark and brooding setting that's.... sobering.
Just finished 15 hours. Liked it. Very interesting view of the front line Imperial Gaurd. Feels like a World War I or II novel with Vietnam tones.
How about the Eldar?
I heard a mention of "Farseer" but without any comment about how good it is.
And are there other books about the Eldar, or even from their view?
My TT Eldar Army http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=78018
And it's background story
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...40#post2206540
Hi all, my first post so be nice.
I'm not going to be though, allow me to ellaborate:
Space Wolf is a BAD BAD BAD book. A BAAAAAAAD book, for the love of christ it makes me blind with anger that anyone would dare to write such a load of degrading, pompus, crap stained trash about what used to be my favorite chapter. Hell I wasn't even sure it was supposed to be about Ragnar Blackmane because he's BLONDE for crying out loud, I hope for his own sake that King wrote the book after GW decided to rewrite Ragnar's fluff because if it was this book that changed it then there will be serious issues and certainly no tame amount of blood spilt over this. What's he supposed to have done? dye his hair black because he thought nobody would take a blonde seriously? Honestly GW.
Oh sorry, minor rant there went on a little longer than I suspected, other inconsistancies with the book such as who discovered Ragnar, how he was trained etc all seem seriously lacking in Space Wolf mythology and as for the Chaos Cult sneaking down onto the Fenris (which apparentlyhas enough of a land mass around the Fang for them to get away with this without being noticed) I find that just downright silly.
**stabs the book a few times**
Over all King's writing style isn't particularly bad but I have to agree with somebody earlier (I forget who and I apologise for stealing your words) who said that a lot of the current 40K novels seem like novels aimed at teenagers and children. When you consider King's earlier Trollslayer series Space Wolf seems like he needed to pay the electricity bill or something.
**stabbity stab stab burn**
Again I'm sorry, this book actually made me stop collecting Space Wolves which I had done since their first codex came out. It also caused me to stop reading any more of the new breed of BL novels which was particularly mean because I was rather enjoying the Gaunt's Ghosts books at the time. (I can't really remember but I think I dug out my old copy of Deathwing to make myself feel better.)
:cranky:
By far the best book that I have ever read was Space Marine, it was the first 40K that I ever read and it was the main reason I got into Games Workshop in the first place - Dark and sinister with a constantly evolving and expanding plot with a finale that left me thinking "Hang on Mr Watson, you can't do that..."
Someone else asked earlier if the SM captain in the Inquisitor series is the same as the one from Space Marine, the answer is yes, that is indeed Lexandro d'Arquebus. The Assassin also features in one of the short stories in Deathwing as possibly does the squat Grimm.
More on Inquisitor at a later time.
Peace out.
Have to agree that I wasn't impressed with the Space Wolf books.
I felt it was inconsistent and even for super warriors all these guys are too good. Okay Ragnar you can expect to be good, but all the other scouts also seem to be unbelievable.
For instance they took down a bunch of stealers up close and personel when outnumbered.
Fair enough they were sick, but still....
Plus that Chaos in Fenris!! What?? No Chance.
I agree with all of that rant except the praise for the Slayer series, which were just as bad.
On the Eldar: Black Library policy frowns on stories from the view of an Eldar because they are considered "too alien". For this reason, you don't get much. Farseer is alright, I guess, but not splendid. It has its moments, and it's generally competently written, though.
Ah, how different our opinions are...
The Space Wolf series is actually my favorite. Granted, I have not yet read the second book, but I have gotten through the others.
==(Spoilers up ahead for anyone who hasnt read Space Wolf)==
And, just for your information, Ragnar is called "Blackmane" because he killed that wolf at the end of the book and wore the pelt.
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