Can I remind everyone of Rule Nine, thank you! If you must criticise Goto, do so in a reasoned way, just as you'd expect with any other author - comments like those of Mirehn_Bielann above aren't approvable.
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Can I remind everyone of Rule Nine, thank you! If you must criticise Goto, do so in a reasoned way, just as you'd expect with any other author - comments like those of Mirehn_Bielann above aren't approvable.
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Sorry about that. I didn't mean to step out of line. Above post has been edited.Can I remind everyone of Rule Nine, thank you! If you must criticise Goto, do so in a reasoned way, just as you'd expect with any other author - comments like those of Mirehn_Bielann above aren't approvable.
But anyways, the link above has been fixed and should lead you to the Black Library site with the news.
And I may just have to pick up those Goto books anyways. Does anyone know if GW considers his books as canon information for the Blood Ravens? If not I won't touch them, but I'll pick them up only for the fluff info then.
#553
Mirehn_Bielann: Thanks for your prompt compliance, but don't worry too much - it's not so much 'stepping out of line', it's just to interdict spam and flaming, as the poor unfortunate has been something of a whipping-boy for all of the fluff's perceived ills in recent times.
According to fluff conventions, a novel, comic or short story is held to be accurate and canonical except where the information it presents is contradicted by Grombrindal or a Codex, in which case the latter pair take precedence - so, Goto's novels are valid additions to the Chapter's history.
I haven't read the original Dawn of War adaptation, but I have chomped through Ascension and I'm partway into Tempest. I've also read his Necromunda novel, Salvation. For what it's worth, I don't see Goto as the living atrocity against fluff that most castigate him as (a Space Marine isn't going to spontaeneously combust the moment his hand lightly brushes a multilaser) and the actual plots of his books are quite attractive. However, I do have some issues with his manner of writing. In Ascension at least, his sense of pacing is completely shot to pieces, and in Salvation the sense of place weaves about incoherently like someone who's been binging on Second Best all night. In all three his descriptions veer dangerously on the line that separates ample and luscious from torrid and overblown.
I think it looks as though FULGRIM will be the title of the next HH book after FOTE.
From the name, and the ending of GIF, it seems as though istvaan V will be the focus of book 5.
Ehhhh, maybe, but I doubt they would call it Fulgrim, that's all
and yeah of course they will be centred around Istvaan V
I don't know why the very next book isn't, i mean if it follows the other books from Garro's persepective, it should then lead on to SOMETHING new at least
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yeah. i thoght that they would have given it a better name than fulgrim, but i cant imagine what else that book is going to be about. Also, it is being done by one of the people that have already written one of the HH books, so it will probably be the next book after FOTE.
maybe the next book will focus on garros return to earth, and the emperor and high lords finding out about istvaan 3. I was surprised that it seems as though the events on nikkaea and prospero are probaply not going to be featured in any of the books, as horus mentionned that leman russ was already fighting on prospero during the istvaan 3 massacre.
That leaves:
book 4 : garro's trip through the warp and arrival on terra. war in the webway (and golden throne)
book 5 : istvaan 5
book 6 : signus prime and calth
book 7 : tsagulsa, chondax and phall
book 8 : lunar, mars and terra
book 9 : aftermath (high lords, second founding, codex astartes, iron cage, retreat of the traitor primarchs, fall of caliban etc...)
Faith and Fire is the first book with Sisters of Battle... and there are two short stories in the Dark Millenium bookOriginally Posted by Kalevispetke
Any books with Sisters of Battle? Man I wanna read about these
#558
Daemonifuge is a graphic novel or somesuch formulated by Dan Abnett that, if memory serves, pertains to both the Sisters of Battle and the concept/ascension of specific Living Saints.
Huzzah, picked up The Armour of Contempt today <3
Half way through The Armour of Contempt.
I absolutely loved the first 9 books.... and joining Gaunts Ghosts in a 10th book is just awesome. Its got me gripped totally.
I actually reading the whole Shira Calpurnia Series so I'm reading Cross Fire but it seems to be going kinda slow......Do the other 2 books pick up a bit more with action and all? ( By the way I am only about a 100 pages into the book so I am not giving up the book yet I still got a ways to go ), How do you guys rate the Shira Calpurnia Series as a whole and the individual books?
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Any other books with C'Tan in? I have read Nightbringer, i hunger for more!
Ultramarines Trilogy!!! Nightbringer, Warriors of Ultramar, and Dead Sky, Black Sun!!!! FTW!!! One of the best short stories from the Black Library are Apothecary's Honor, Daemonblood, and the 2 Dark Angels stroies in Let the Galaxy Burn
'Warriors of Ultramar' was my favorite. I do wish McNeil hadn't killed off the Death Watch Captain, he was the epitome of badass.
the true epitome of badass is Uriel Ventris. I wonder if McNeil will write a 4th book, since he left it at a brickwall ending.
He has to write a fourth book, you can't end a book like that and then not write another sequel, that would be crazy.
EDIT:I found legacy ina book store and bought. I though it started a bit slow but by the end of it I really liked it.I actually reading the whole Shira Calpurnia Series so I'm reading Cross Fire but it seems to be going kinda slow......Do the other 2 books pick up a bit more with action and all? ( By the way I am only about a 100 pages into the book so I am not giving up the book yet I still got a ways to go ), How do you guys rate the Shira Calpurnia Series as a whole and the individual books?
Definitly, but McNeil ought to do it as a true sequal to 'Storm of Iron' this time around, and finish off with a third IW book to finish the trilogy and make for a nice omnibus.
I've just started reading the Eisenhorn Trilogy, all in one book. Good so far, looking to buy some others though.
Is there any others which you all could recomend, that are about the Space Marines fighting orks or chaos or any race.
What is Eisenhorn about anyway?
#570
It is about the Inquisitor Gregor Eisenhorn, his fight against Chaos and his gradual slide into radicalism.
Winter is coming.
I have recently read "Double Eagle" by Dan Abnett, its about air combat in the sabbat worlds campaign, and it mainly focuses on the actions of the phantine XX, a imperial guard air regiment.
It was decent. Not spectacular. Maybe its just because ive been reading Kinoko Nasu's works(Tsukihime for one, try looking for it on wikipedia), but almost everything i read nowadays is just bland in comparison.
What was nicely done is the way how the book switches to viewpoints of seemingly un-connected characters, yet they get connected together in the end anyway. Its also one of very few WH40K books with more than a passing glimpse at the almost never mentioned air combat portion of the universe. Usually all you hear is space marines or imperial guard fighting orks or heretics and its just assumed the navy is somewhere else.
The book tries to explain that when fighting agaisnt fast moving airborne targets, you need to lead ahead. Unfornately it also does this when the characters are firing with las weaponry, which are supposedly as fast as the speed of light. With las weaponry you are supposed to be able to just aim and shoot, and not bother about "deflection".
The book also suffers from the common "Good guys rape bad guys" syndrome, with the notable exception of the PDF air corps that uses propeller planes and get owned in everyway possible, in almost all engagements the good guys rack up kill ratios far superior to what the bad guys can pull off, even though there is no indication whatsoever that the navy has far superior pilots to the chaos air forces, and the same goes to the quality of the air planes the chaos forces are using.
Try to borrow/rent it instead of buying it, its cheaper that way, and its not the kind of book you will want to read a 2nd time, its just about WH40K version of dogfights.
any news on the next few releases by BL?
I saw there were a few books listed on their site that doesnt have any info on it at the moment.
Got
Blind - Matt Farrer
Slow like said before, but then again i never did like detectives.
Got
Fell Cargo - Dan Abnett
This is a warhammer fanatasy book however it is well worth reading, its about pirates for one which made me think i shouldnt touch the book but the guy in the shop said it was very good and indeed it was. Very little of the daft pirateness in it.
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Just want to make sure here but the Horus Heresy Trilogy goes:
Horus Rising
False Gods
Galaxy in Flames
Where does "The Horus Heresy: Visions of Death v. 4" come? Is that after the trilogy?
#575
The Horus Heresy series isn't a trilogy, and extends far beyond "Galaxy in Flames". The imminent extension to it is "The Flight of the Eisenstein", which will be released next year.
I do believe "Visions of Death" has been released for quite some time now. It is not part of the Horus Heresy Novel Series, and is instead the fourth in a line of Art/Fluffbooks by Sabertooth Games.
Ahh I see. Got a bit confused cos so many people and websites (erroneously) call it a trilogy. I got the order of reading them right though?
#577
Indeed, though I believe it has been stated that following the aforementioned "Flight of the Eisenstein" two more novels will be published.
Can anyone reccomend Warrior Brood?
Shweet! I have all of them on order from a well known internet book retailer.following the aforementioned "Flight of the Eisenstein" two more novels will be published.
The plan is for them to release 9 novels in total
Reccomend Warrior Brood not today lol, It was better then some of his other books but it just has so many "WTF" moments....... I mean you love the political battles within the Inquisition by all means read the book but if you are looking for something that goes by the fluff you looking under the wrong author lol. ( And no I am not saying it to just bash Goto, I have read all his book except salvation and they just have not lived to what I expected and I keep giving him the benefit of the doubt ). So bottle line is if your looking for a decent Sci-Fi book read the series but if your looking for a decent Warhammmer 40k book there all alot other choices out there.
Thanks Steve.
Looking for a decent new 40k book, as i'm almost finished the Eisenhorn trilogy.
Well I did notice that most of Goto's books are pretty much battle and action. So if you like action and battle but no good fluff Id go with Goto. I mean im not the fluff master so i tend to like the more action based books with some fluff that i can learn. Also im finishing the Gaunt's Ghost series so does anyone have a suggestion that could live up to that series?
Since you just finished the Eisenhorn omnibus I would say start with the Ravenor novels the first 2 are now avail in paperback ( I had to hunt down the hard back versions since I liked em so much ) however the third Ravenor novel ( Ravenor Rouge ) won't be out till next year Also since the Ravenor series is almost an extension of Eisenhorn. You could check Last Chancers that was a nice gritty series that I enjoyed ( read it in less then 5 days ).
Cheers, will try them!
I'm looking at the Ultramarines Omnibus also on black library.com will I be able to get this in GamesWorkshop because black library are out of copies of this
Any way I can get my hands on Xenology without resorting to Ebay? I can find it on Ebay but it is gonna cost me 34 dollars, without Danish tax. I would check my local Gamesworkshop store but unfortunately the only GW store in Denmark is a four drive from here. Which is a pretty long ride for a book you don't even know if it is there.
I am not in a hurry though I just want to know if it is worth the trouble.
#587
try GW on-line store or Black Library.
I tried Black Librray (just bought a bunch of books actually) but it says it is out of print. That is why I am asking. Can't find it on GW page, at least not on the UK or Scandinavian page.
Bookstores online, Barnes and Noble, Borders, Amazon, overstock.com
Has anyone read the 'Gotek and Felix..." books. I see the omnibuses are out. Any good for some romping WH Fantasy tales?
Argh, the Great Knight series makes my eyes bleed (okay, Dark Adeptus was entertaining, but...gah). It seems like every ten seconds a Grey Knight gets his arms ripped off. It's as if the author was told to take the good-guy-is-hit-always-in-the-arm thing and make it darker (and brutaler).
I think I tallied up the number of Grey Knight arms ripped off between the two books, and if I can find that, I'll edit it in. God, it's so annoying. If you could take all the terminator arms ripped/blown/flayed off in the first book alone, you could hammer them into a suspension bridge that could doubtlessly circle Holy Terra a great multitude of times.
If your gonna complain about something at least get it right...... All that aside no book is perfect and someone will always find something wrong with the book, and if that is the only thing you found wierd about the book then you should probably re-read it lol. Compared to a couple other books concerning Warhammer 40k the Grey Knight is actually pretty good and I really can't wait for the third book.Argh, the Great Knight series
Now Back to the point I came to this thread in the first place lol.
Man I finished off Crossfire, Legacy and not I am on the last chapter of Blind, the Shira series is one hell of a detective story compared to many other 40k novels this series really lacks in action ( however is does make up for it in sneaky little plot twists and interesting turns ). I think CrossFire was the best out of three since Legacy concerned more with the Rouge Traders then Shira ( Shira was more like a side charactor lol ), I'll finish Blind up tonight and that book didn't even take me a day to read since it just keeps this web of intrigue going so it makes it hard to put the book down even though there is barely any action in the book at all lol. What other opinions you guys have on the Shira series or did I pretty much hit the nail on the head?
I just finished Galaxy In Flames not one hour ago. Short, but action-packed. And the ending... oh man. Let's just say I've never hated the Traitor Legions as much as I do now.
I heartily recommend the book to anyone who craves more fluff on the Horus Heresy. In my opinion, it's better than the two preceding books.
Look at the bright side, kid - you get to keep all the money.
Seconded.In my opinion, it's better than the two preceding books.
Horus rising was okay, but really mediocre after the opening few chapters.
False gods seemed to drag on and on, with only a few really inspired parts (magnus and erebus trying to win horus' trust in the warp, the burial and rising of angron at the end).
Galaxy in flames was IMO FAR more action packed than the previous 2, and had far more important fluff parts (although the second book did explain the events of davin, it all seemed rather unlikely that horus would fall so quickly)
Blind is rather boring actually. Theres no real actual detective work in it. 99% of Shira's work in it was simply guess work. Crossfire and Legacy were good.Man I finished off Crossfire, Legacy and not I am on the last chapter of Blind, the Shira series is one hell of a detective story compared to many other 40k novels this series really lacks in action ( however is does make up for it in sneaky little plot twists and interesting turns ). I think CrossFire was the best out of three since Legacy concerned more with the Rouge Traders then Shira ( Shira was more like a side charactor lol ), I'll finish Blind up tonight and that book didn't even take me a day to read since it just keeps this web of intrigue going so it makes it hard to put the book down even though there is barely any action in the book at all lol. What other opinions you guys have on the Shira series or did I pretty much hit the nail on the head?
I dunno about Legacy more then fifty percent of book was about the Rouge Traders Shira didn't have too much page time( lol ). I though Cross Fire was the best since it dealt with her getting settled with the new planet and some Mechanicus page time there ( that was actually worth while ), That and I thought the ending of Cross Fire was pretty funny and what the whole assassination was about lol ( I won't announce it incase people haven't read the book ). After finally finishing Blind I would have to say it didn't live up to what I was expecting ( Not really sure what I expected probably something that I would have never thought of but the ending wasn't as good as I wanted ). That and it was kinda odd to what happened to Shira and how it pretty much continued after Legacy, Probably what kept me hooked on Blind was setting itself 'witch roost' and all, it had a really good 40k setting but just lacked that good old plot twist ( and some decent fire fights even for a Shira novel I think there was only like 1 real fire fight the second one was pretty short. ).Blind is rather boring actually. Theres no real actual detective work in it. 99% of Shira's work in it was simply guess work. Crossfire and Legacy were good.
Now I'm off to read The Inquisition War ( Finally ).
Just to add my 2c for favorite novels/series/authors (or Favourite for those non-yanks) :
1. Gaunts Ghosts novels, Dan Abnett, recommend reading them in series order.
2. Commissar Cain Novels, Sandy Mitchell, again read in series order they rock.
3. Inquisition War trilogy
4. Horus Heresy books, All have been awesome so far and looking forward to more.
5. Ravenor Series, of which I believe there is another in the works.
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Inspired by one of the threads recently - any more literature on Tyranid space battles, aside from the Battlefleet Gothic Armada book?
#598
Warriors of Ultramar includes descriptions of several Tyranid space battles, at least.
is that in the Andy McNiell series of books focussed around the exploits of Uriel Ventris?
yes. Good read. Details some creative ways of killing off hive ships as opposed to the usual "massive-space-fleet-wtfpwns-hive-mothership" type of action.
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