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Visions of Treachery:The Horus Heresy Campaign

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    Visions of Treachery:The Horus Heresy Campaign

    The Horus Heresy Campaign Single Player Mod. Relaunched and Revamped!
    As a result of resurfacing interest in the single player campaign for the Horus Heresy, here’s a new thread with updated information, and a little bit of clarification concerning the campaign.
    Firstly, -and obviously – this mod is not dead. It has been a little poorly since key team members have had some real life changes, and we’ve suffered some hardware problems – Both Grabnutz and I have fried our respective computers at some point, However, work has progressed. We’ve still been working away in the background and getting things done little by little.
    Secondly, we’re only about halfway through what we’d hoped to achieve. We’ve got a lot of the mission maps completed or very close to completion, and we did have some missions finished or virtually finished. However, Games Workshop released their trilogy of books and expanded on the fluff (yay!) but in doing so we needed to rewrite entire missions or be branded fools and ignoramuses(boo!). Rewriting entire missions takes time and effort, and as a result, came as something of a setback. The team drifted apart but the core of the mod is still in place and is still being worked on.
    FAQ
    1) what will it include? Can I play as the Lion/Russ/guilliman/Corax/Sanguinius etc?
    The mod will include all of the Primarchs. At some point you will be able to play as them, or against them. They will only feature in the single player missions as part of the Horus Heresy Story, and as such we will be fiercely defending any models that appear and attempting to keep them a single player only. It would rapidly become farcical to have four sanguiniuses slugging it out in skirmish. There is no way Primarchs will be featuring in multiplayer so don’t keep asking.

    2) Which missions will be included? How much of the story is going to be covered?
    The missions will take the key battles of the Horus Heresy and include some of the iconic fights that form part of the legendary backstory. You will be able to fight on Calth, Prospero, the moon of Davin, Mars and Terra – and the heroes of these fights will be featured in all of the necessary places.

    3) How accurately will you be sticking to the fluff/Backstory? I saw the demo and there were some things that were wrong! Garro never fought on the planet for example…
    The fluff will be adhered to as much as possible, but there will be some flexibility to improve the gameplay. By this I mean that the Sons of Horus fighting on Davin’s Moon could for example, lose the mission if they become separated from their guide as they trudge through the stinking fetid forest. We all know the SM don’t get lost, but it’s one of the objectives and represents the story, while improving the playability of the mission. The Backstory is not going to be a big metal ruler we smack each other with when something isn’t quite right and although the backstory will form a big part of the mod, if adhering to the fluff means the gameplay suffers then we’re going to alter it a little without being entirely blasphemous about things that are considered ‘canon’. After all, the siege of the Imperial palace lasted for years and I’ve got other things to do!

    I've got a research thread running over in the backstory and fluff forums. Many of the questions you may be puzzled by will be answered overe here..

    BACKSTORY RESEARCH THREAD

    Can I play as Horus/The Emperor?
    This is top secret. By this I mean no-one knows yet, as Grabnutz and I have not agreed on something yet. It’s so top secret even the mod leaders don’t know. The two great protagonists will be a part of the Mod, but whether it’s as cutscene actors or playable warriors is yet to be seen.

    What about Titans?
    Titans will probably feature in the mod, and will be treated exactly the same as the primarchs. They will not be available in skirmish and will not feature in multiplayer.

    Can I beta test?
    No.

    Please?
    No.

    I’m going crazy for this mod and want to help – I’ve got some great ideas!
    If I had a pound for every PM I got like this, I’d have about 387 quid. Seriously, we have ideas spewing out of our brains and we cannot take on board any more. If you really want to help we need someone who can unwrap models in MAX and get them into the OE, or someone who can teach me how to do it real quick. We’ve got some models ready to go, but no-one to get things into the OE and in-game. It’s demoralising for the modeller – Left Wing – and irritating for me. This is the only real area that we need help in at the moment.

    You can expect an update soon with details of the missions and some screenies.

    On another note, for those of you hugging yourselves in frustration that there is no multiplayer aspect, you can get loads of multiplayer goodness from the Horus Heresy Mutliplayer mod, which is independent to this mod. They’ll be putting a load of cool stuff into multiplayer, so check out their thread for some cool models and information.

    Finally, A request – As some of you will probably have figured out, it’s pretty confusing having two mods with very similar names, people get linked to the wrong thing and we’re often found answering questions on each others behalf. The Multiplayer guys answer questions for us, and we do so for them. Confusing isn’t it?
    I’d really like to rename this mod (the Horus Heresy Campaign Mod) To something that let’s people know what the mod is about, without creating even more confusion. It will help both mod teams if we can be named something that indicates the single player story.
    Remember, Galaxy in Flames is already taken (I think) As is Depth of Heresy, and Dawn of Heresy.
    So, suggestions for this mod’s name? Anyone?
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    What about 'Let the Galaxy Burn' ? Although, it's not as catchy as something with 'Horus' and 'Heresy' in it...
    I'll put my thinking cap on ;D

    EDIT: well, why not shamelessly use the BL title of one of the HH background books: 'Visions of Treachery'
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    woah, sounds awesome dude, if you do at any point need a 2d artist. contact me. for the name? "Heresy of Horus" :P hehe

    nahh really what about "legions heresy" or so on and so on.

    when do you expect a beta or it to be out? (any time could be a day, month, or even year.)

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    What about these for names:
    • The great betrayal,
    • Horus's betrayal,
    • The imperiums darkest hour,
    • The rise and fall of Horus,
    Sorry if they kinda suck.
    Last edited by Raven Spire; 23rd Feb 07 at 3:40 AM.

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    WooHoo!

    great to see the best HH campaign mod back!

    i wish you the best for this mod.

    and, for the name, i was thinking something like this:

    "The Great Betrayal" or "The Traitors of Mankind"

    Cheers!,
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    EDIT: heh, hadnt noticed someone had Already posted "The great betrayal". i think its a good name though....

    Hrmmm...
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    "False God"

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    Hmm...



    The Rape of Terra,

    The Fall of the Imperium,

    End-times,

    The Severing of the Imperium,

    The Death of the Golden Times,

    The Rise of Chaos,

    Chaos Ascendant,

    And many, many, more...



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    Last edited by John1918; 22nd Feb 07 at 9:13 PM.

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    I second "The Great Betrayal" and "False God."

    But what about "Angels and Daemons" or "The Dark Millenium."

    Its good to hear that some progress is being made.

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    I like the "The Dark Millenium."

    Glad to hear from you guys again!

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    Just to show I haven't abandoned the mod, something I have should have posted a long time ago a WIP for this mod:


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    That looks like good old Heresy-era Terminator Armour.

    As for names? Hmmm...
    "The Birth Of Heresy"
    "The Ultimate Betrayal"
    "The Birth Of The Chaos Marines"
    "The Fallen Legions"
    "STAR WARS!" (I was joking on that one.)

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    "The fall of Horus" ?
    Good luck!

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    Well, i like the original title "The Horus Heresy Campaign", otherwise, what about "The Mighty Have Fallen"?
    Also, maybe you can e-mail GW and ask them if you can use "Galaxy In Flame" (like their book title).
    Cheers.

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    You dunno HOW much I missed this!! The demo was great!

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    How about "Heresy - The Grasp of Chaos" ?

    Glad there's progress here guys Don't think i've looked forward to any mod as much as this since reading the books. Keep up the stunning work guys!

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    OMG is the project not dead... damn and i've also posted here... D'Oh! now Grabnuz will kill me

    So i've understood that all maps are done... (prospero included) aren't them?
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    Thanks a great bunch for the update Argonaut.

    Name suggestions:
    - Chaos Ascended
    - The Black Legions
    - Heart/Mind of a Traitor
    - Masters of War
    - Horus Rising (assuming you can take that name)

    I also like the "False God" name.
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    I like visions of Treachery.

    I *think* all maps are done (Apart from the ones I'm working on as I keep getting distracted.) Prospero is getting very close to being finished but it's quite an ordeal placing so many decals.

    when I can, I'll update the first post with a buggo-style progress-o-meter detailing where we are with maps, missions, SCAR and other stuff.

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    Galaxy in Flames sounds the best...

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    I'd go with something along the lines of Traitor's Blood.

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    ..Galaxy in flames...


    ...silly gue'la

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    Galaxy in flames is taken by another mod team.

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    Ah, nevermind then...


    Hmm...


    Traitor's tale?

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    Names for the actual mod? Well then how about "The Eye of Deceit" to represent the betrayal of the Sons of Horus? (They used the Eye of Terra as their badge)

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    Hmmm...
    "Steps to Madness"
    "Maim,kill,burn!"
    "Lust for Power"
    "Son`s Betrayal"(Horus was Emperor`s favourite "son")
    "First Heretics"
    "Trust Noone"(Emperor was betrayed by his "sons")

    This is the best I can think of.

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    Hmm... how about one of the following:

    Assault on Terra
    The Fall of Man
    Heresy Ascendant
    Crusade of Corruption

    or maybe something with a subtitle, such as:

    Horus Heresy: The Road to Terra
    Crusade of Corruption: A Horus Heresy Campaign Mod

    Anywho, it's just a few suggestions.
    I has a Blurb. And one of those Tweeter things.
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    Decision Time.

    I'm going to use a combination of suggestions... The Mod name therefore is,.

    Visions of Treachery:The Horus Heresy Campaign Mod.

    I *hope* this will help the SP and MP mods be differentiated a bit, as I'll refer to this mod as the VoT mod.

    Anyhow _ I got tomorrow AM off from work ,so I'll update you guys some more then.

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    That's a nice title. When're the next WIP screenies coming out?

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    yeah dude, i cant wait for more screenies!!

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    Looking forward to this - after it stalled for a bit.

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    Yeah, I missed em too...

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    Just a question. I know 4 emperor's killing each other in a skirmish game would be the absolute unfluffiness and I understand you don't want to unleash such a decadent mod to humanity. I don't really know anything about DoW modding, but if there's a way to set a global flag that affects all players in a game, then you can disable all the buttons that build the emperor when one player has spawned one emperor, thus allowing only one per game.

    You could also enable special MP maps like some old ones where the controller of a special location would spawn a demon prince under their control. You could make it so that depending on whose race capture this point, one or other special character joins their ranks. After all the models are already going to be there.

    I did read the "stop asking for MP" part, however I couldn't help it I hope this "suggestion" falls into some kind of bag of "wemightdothisoncewevefinishedallthespcontentweveplanned".

    Anyways, really glad to see that the mod is healthy and progressing. There was a time when I would check your forums each day to see any map screenies, or left wing progress, or rafta's great sketches...Horus Heresy lives on!!!

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    things like that, jesukrixto, would be something for the multiplayer team to consider. We've got a campaign to make here, and can't divert attention away from that in skirmish.
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    Ok, It's worth repeating in big letters.


    WE ARE NOT DOING MULTIPLAYER. MULTIPLAYER SUGGESTIONS BELONG IN THE MULTIPLAYER MOD'S THREAD.

    thankyou

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    haha i like big letters

    is there any chance we will get a little peek? like a little demo or trailer soon?

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    got it. Won't edit my post so that yours doesn't look out of place.

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    There WAS a demo to this campaign. However, I would not recommend playing it. It's kinda... unfinished lol, the Space Marines died too easily against the guardsmen and the story was kind of... different from that of the Heresy book series soo... Yeah...

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    Whatever happened to the forums? I went on them one day and every other thread was VIAGRA!

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    Ill make you some sig bars if u want, i dont mind!


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    [edit] Damned slow load times!

    Needs more pics/stuff going on in the background. The white part around the eye of horus looks a bit out of place too.[/edit]

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    Yep i know that white bit looks dodgy, it was hard to crop out, im not very good at this stuff! :P

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    What program did you use? Use photoshop/fireworks/gimps magic wand to select the white, and delete it.

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    Photoshop, im kinda new to it! :P

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    When I went onto the forums, it said "Sorry, this service isn't available" or somthing along the lines of that...

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    My updated version;
    - general

    - with name/position

    Im not putting "Visions of treachery: The Horus heresy campaign" as its such a goddamn long title.
    If you want more doing, give me a list of names(or ask for the .psd and you can edit it yourself!).

    Hope you like them

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    /me demands Incarnate to make one for him aswell .

    Looking good dude.

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    Oooh, nice. I find it a bit hard to read, though. But could you please make one for me as well? I'm (hopefully) still the Lua monkey.
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    If those are the ones we're going with, add me to the list, although the "Argonaut/Team Leader" text is far to tiny in my opinion

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    Nice looking!!

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    Forums got raped by spambots. Until things get rolling again we're going without. I've got some 'placeholder' forums ready, but mod members are having a headache posting due to 404 errors. I'm ceasing the account with my host soon, and we'll talk about forums from there. At the moment, everything we need to discuss is going to happen here, or via PM with the Mod members.

    As for the old demo, the first post details the fact that the mission has been scrapped as it doesn't fit with the new fluff. A trailer will be forthcoming when I've finished what I'm working on. Here's some tasters -

    Who're these guys?


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