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Does kieth S'jet have more pull now?

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    JamesX
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    Does kieth S'jet have more pull now?

    if Kata storyline is included, it seem to show that the different kieth's(sp?) are struggling for dominance against each other on their homeworld.

    With Karen once again elevated to the position of being the mothership, does this grant Kieth S'jet more political/economical power in the council?

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    I think that the other Kiithid (singular: Kiith) would want to include their own bridge members. Besides, even though Karen is plugged in to the Big Banana, I don't think she has complete control over it. Just like the computers on an aircraft carriers don't control the ship, neither doe Karen.

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    Teancum
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    That's right. Because I (or you, or whoever is playing the game) am commanding the banana!

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    I don't think it would really matter, I mean the mothership is there for the benefit of all Hiigarans/Kushan. Its not like the kiiths are at war and I doubt Karan would or could take the mothership on perhaps a mining/construction operation to boost the S'jet fleet.

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    Dasvidoniya
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    ok...think of the kiithid like todays nataions
    what would happen if japan said 'ok, the international space station and all of its components is now only japans' that isnt gonna happen...

    likewise if Kiith S'jet thought they had more political power, there would be much debate, and Karan may not be even allowed back in...
    I didnt think S'jet was a power hungry kiith, but then again, through Karan, they could show their dominance.....just the other kiithid wont be happy.....

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    I think that the Hiigarans band together to fight the Vaygr like they banded together to build the first momma ship in HW, and, therefore, they put aside their political differences for the good of the Hiigarans. I also think that each varying kiith contributes something important for the momma ship like in HW, and that doesn't make one kiith more powerful than the other.

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    Originally posted by Teancum
    That's right. Because I (or you, or whoever is playing the game) am commanding the banana!
    But even though you are the senior commanding officer of the Mothership, with all acess to all systems and command almost every aspect of the fleet...

    The drives are always off line in the campaign, and nobody tells you why....

    >Ceade

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    They werent installed at the time of the intial test....

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    Dasvidoniya
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    ~all right! ms ready for testing!

    -whats that big gaping hole wher the drives are supposed to be?

    ~shut up you! thats not important at all!

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    The momship expected to have the drives tuned and activated when it returned to the scaffold after the hyperdrive test. Unfortunately, there wasn't a scaffold anymore.

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    That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard.
    Hey, let's just zoom off to an unknown part of the galaxy, without any way of maneouvering our ship, and sit there for thirty minutes until our hyperdrive charges again. Doesn't that sound like fun fellas? Questions anyone? Yes, you at the back there.
    "Well sir, what happens if, eg, theres a bloody big rock about to hit us before the thirty minutes is up? Or if we misjump and end up in the gravitational well of a planet?"
    ...
    It's obvious to me you're not being a proper part of the team here, Wiggins.
    "But sir..."
    Shutup! There's your answer!
    "That isn't an ans...."
    Get the hell out of my briefing room boy!

    I mean, comon. That's just really stupid.

    In any case, when the mothership left the scaffold, it used its engines. You can see the glow from them as it leaves the scaffold. And then, suddenly, they aren't working anymore.

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    Freakshow
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    maybe the engines broke after that and then the command guys were like

    "fuck it well just test out the hyperdrive and u can fix it when we get back"

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    I thought it was a reasonable idea. Mission 2 cutscene: "Many of the mothership's systems are incomplete."

    The initial firing could have something as simple as a set of minor thrusters going off, since all it did was move the momship less than a single length. The thrusters were never used again because they didn't have the power to really give the momship any tactical movement capability except straight forward ... and Homeworld doesn't ascribe to "coasting" / momentum in its physics model so they'd be useless thereafter.

    -- Retro

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    Originally posted by MorningLord
    That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard.
    Hey, let's just zoom off to an unknown part of the galaxy, without any way of maneouvering our ship, and sit there for thirty minutes until our hyperdrive charges again. Doesn't that sound like fun fellas? Questions anyone? Yes, you at the back there.
    "Well sir, what happens if, eg, theres a bloody big rock about to hit us before the thirty minutes is up? Or if we misjump and end up in the gravitational well of a planet?"
    Well the whole trip of HW was done out of desperation. The original idea was to jump to the edge of the system to caliberate the Hyper drive, then jump back to the shipyard to finish the rest of the systems. I think after the system are recaliberated and the personnel loaded the mothership is meant to jump directly to Hiigara. But that was not possible because they discovered the existance of the Tiidan.

    It is like building Noal's Arc - I really doubt that ship was made to manuver (at all), it was meant as a transport.

    It would be nice for them to at least install thrusters onto the mothership to at least do some basic manuevering, but who knows why it was not done. Maybe they lack the technology to mount sublight drive of that size.

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    Freakshow
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    notice that the mothership did have thrusters but did not utilize them which would confirm either the needed to be calibrated and activated or they broke theories.

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    JamesX:
    NOAL's Arc? Dude what parallel universe are you from ?
    Last edited by Drop_6; 6th Aug 03 at 2:12 PM.

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    JamesX
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    Originally posted by Drop_6
    JamesX:
    NOAL's Arc? Dude what parallel universe are you from ?
    lol, wrong spelling I meant Noah's Arc.

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    PenDragon
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    Construction of the MS is a group effort. It requires tremendous amount of material. The PEOPLE of Hiigara, cooperate to build the MS. Therefore it belongs to the PEOPLE, not a single kith.

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    Keith S'jet? Wasn't he a member of the Partridge Family?

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    ummmm ok not :offtopic: or anything but the hyperspace just to the "middle of nowhere" was to check if the hyperspace core worked on such a large scale then the khar-toba was there to assist in case if anything went wrong then they would return back to a barren waste land...wait wasnt t it that way before?

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    Ark

    Noah's arc would be the rainbow.

    -- Retro

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    Thurokiir
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    wow not random

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    JamesX
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    Originally posted by Retroboy
    Ark

    Noah's arc would be the rainbow.

    -- Retro
    LOL hopefully 3rd times the charm... Noah's ArK

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    Chris Hill
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    Going back to the political situation, it really doesn't matter WHO was in power at the end of Cat. HW2 is set 85 years later. If a week is a long time in politics, 85 years is an eternity. The internal hiigaraan political map could could well have changed beyond all recognitian by the time we return to the homeworld universe

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    Grinnz
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    well, the kushans had never encountered space opposition before they decided to go recklessly hyperspacing away. So that may have been the reason for their lack of .

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    grinnze what the blue moon are you saying what do you call
    the scout ships not only that i think in the beginng of the game
    you could research corvette chasiss < may have spelled wrong

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    Grinnz
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    um...those are their scout ships, not ...opposition...

    they did lots of work from their discovery of the Khar-Toba, you know.

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    sorry im extremly of topic hear but how do you get the pictures
    above your name

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    Go to the newcomer's forum and read the Frequently Asked Question thread. That'll tell ya.

    -- Retro

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    Silverknight
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    i did

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