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  • Cancerman - Sister of Battle

    1 0.87%
  • Schweet - Rabbid Ork

    8 6.96%
  • LordAba - Ripper Swarm

    2 1.74%
  • Neohunter - Kasrkin

    27 23.48%
  • eumenes - Berserker

    8 6.96%
  • Oil Sucker - Grey Knight Grand Master

    1 0.87%
  • Norsehawk - IG Senior Officer

    3 2.61%
  • STV-1138 - Eliphas the Inheritor

    4 3.48%
  • Tubby131313 - Space Wolf

    0 0%
  • Higgen - Kasrkin Sarge

    2 1.74%
  • Nanolathe - Space Marine

    1 0.87%
  • DarkWatcher - Deathwing Termy

    2 1.74%
  • n00bman - Tyranid Warrior

    8 6.96%
  • Incinerator - Chaos Boobsnake Lord

    2 1.74%
  • Solomon_lok - Marine with Lightning Claws

    0 0%
  • Sir_Clausel - Blood Raven Sarge

    7 6.09%
  • Gialus - Witch Hunter

    0 0%
  • FifteenHours - Penitent Psyker

    0 0%
  • Apoc - Striking Scorpion Exarch

    1 0.87%
  • Ardaeus - Salamanders Marine

    7 6.09%
  • Mirehn_Bielann - Space Marine Termy Captain

    0 0%
  • rainbowmonkeys - Ratling Sniper

    2 1.74%
  • gunslinger578 - Fire Warrior

    0 0%
  • Evistro - Inquisitor

    0 0%
  • Sobek - Thousand Sons Sorcerer

    1 0.87%
  • Bearc - Hawk Lords Termy

    9 7.83%
  • grimzod - Assault Marine Brother Tyre

    12 10.43%
  • Master222 - Ultra's Champion

    0 0%
  • ChaosLord - Space Marine Champion

    7 6.09%
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[P&M] Painting Competition V - Lower Tier Voting

  1. Tabletop Senior Member Company of Heroes Senior Member  #1
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    [P&M] Painting Competition V - Lower Tier Voting

    Yes. It's voting time. At last!

    The rules are fairly simple, in that there aren't really very many at all.

    All votes are transparent, so everyone else can see who you vote for. The reason for this is because you cannot vote for your own model. I'm going to make an executive decision this comp, and rather than banning entries outright from people who vote for their own stuff, we're just going to dock them 5 votes from their final total, so if you vote for yourself, and end up missing out on a winning entry by a vote because of this, you'll have only yourself to blame

    The polls will run for a week from now, and at that stage, we'll declare winners, have a big party, drown eachother in champagne, and do all sorts of the usual victory type things.*

    I'm sure all the entrants would appreciate it if you commented on the models they spent their time on, and elaborated on why you chose the model you did to put your vote on. edit To address a concern that just popped up, anyone can vote and comment on the models. These threads are not restricted solely to competitors. So have at it!

    That's about it really. Be sure to vote in the Higher Tier thread if you vote here.

    Great job everyone who took part, and good luck in the voting

    Here's the link to the posted competition entry pictures: http://www.lunar-wolves.com/wordpress/?page_id=6
    (Please let the page fully load before clicking on thumbnail images, or the layout of the page may be skewed!)


    * Usual victory type things may or may not apply
    Last edited by Ap0k; 23rd Jun 07 at 2:19 PM.

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    I cast my vote for n00bman's Tyranid Warrior. I am consistently surprised at how much the model appeals to me. The color scheme is simplistic and there are no advanced techniques evident, but neither of those things end up detracting from the model in any way. The model is riddled with small details and yet there is an encompassing neatness about the whole thing. It appears very realistic to me.

    My honorable mentions go to Bearc, Ardaeus, grimzod, and Chaoslord. These are all excellent entries with lots of character, care, and just plain awesomeness. grimzod has my favorite conversion of the lower tier and the rest have very appealing paint jobs.

    But of course, these weren't the only superb paint jobs, just the ones that appealed to me most. The entire competition is full of quality and I salute everyone who made an entry.

    I, of course, loathe mine and am redoing it as we speak. (So to speak)

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    ChaosLord - Space Marine Champion - stoic pose, not so over the top, good scheme, nice free hand. diggin the flames.

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    True to my word... I am voting for Schweet's rabbid ork. Although this is a painting competition, I feel that the creativity in the model is out of this world and deserves some credit.
    Look on the bright side....

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    Eumenes - Top to bottom the best painted model.

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    This is a very hard tier to judge.

    What stands out to me are these prominent facts :

    1. Some Photos do not display the model very well at all, and I know that the model will be good, but I just can't see it; either due to darkness or picture size.

    2. I feel like I am applying different frameworks for judging the models within this one tier. I have models here that are better-than-tabletop, but also models which are far below tabletop. It seems harsh to judge one set with the others framework.

    3. Less is more. With the majority of the models, some people have gone way over the top, with free hand designs, and frankly, it removes the tidy paint job that once resided beneath it, also apparent are highlights which are far more than subtle.

    I feel I am being quite harsh here, so i'll shut up for now

    Reviews inbound...

    [These are primarily quite critical, but i'm only focussing upon where you could improve the model/s, so don't be disheartened if it feels like I am laying into your hard work]

    Cancerman - Sister of Battle
    A neat model, highlighting and general good choice of colours. No creativeness with freehand or conversion. The base is quite bland too.

    Schweet - Rabbid Ork
    This is mental heh. Very good inking and layering. Creative conversions and good attention to detail. The base is creative too, but slightly messy. The slugga seems a little rushed, in that it is just a metallic with what seems like a bit of black ink/brown ink.

    LordAba - Ripper Swarm
    Different type of model. The base has been jazzed up with the Tyranid hive node and other resources. The detail has been acknowledged and picked up on. Inking has been used, but layering and highlighting hasn't. The base ideally should be tidied up, so the node cannot be seen the underneath of with that gap.

    Neohunter - Kasrkin
    Nice model, good glass/lens effect present. Highlighting is a little extreme, and the layering on the Plasma reactor glow is non existant (disappointing really since a mix of Ice Blue could work wonders with it and it would shine, quite literally!). Base has been made interesting with the nicely painted tau helmet, although the battle damage would be good to be physically represented (with a big gouge out of with with clippers or craft knife ).

    eumenes - Berserker
    First thing that hits me is the base. Incredible base!
    The model itself is inventive with the conversions, and freehand has been attempted with the weapon detail, although it doesn't appeal to me.
    The chainsword inner teeth have also been picked out, which is often never done. The model is missing some solid highlighting, as it has the lowlighting sorted pretty much it seems.

    Oil Sucker - Grey Knight Grand Master
    Nice solid colour - very little highlighting can be done on the model, and the dark and small image makes it quite hard to tell, so I will just have to go with gut instinct, in that it hasn't. The detail has been well homed in on, and the model itself has been converted. The base is interested also.
    The cloak is a bit of a let down for me personally with the extrusive "I" and the lines, but the attempt was made for freehand, and it will be looked upon favourably.

    Norsehawk - IG Senior Officer
    A very neat model. Perhaps let down by the blandness of its colours and base. Highlighting and edging has occurred, and the detail in the scarcity that it actually exists on this model has been well attended to.

    STV-1138 - Eliphas the Inheritor
    Quite a dark photo, although the model itself is dark, so that doesn't help!
    Interesting model, conversion, nice base and very nice skull work done. The cape looks oily which is a good effect for this model in my opinion. The Scythe blade looks a little bland, and the model's head is shiny, which I don't fully think goes well. Also the face skin colour I don't believe is the best that could be achieved for detail, especially considering the darkness of the model as a whole, a constrasting white or lighter grey face would have been better.

    Tubby131313 - Space Wolf
    Interesting model - nice effect on the fur on the lower half. The base has been spruced up, but seems a little unfinished presently.
    The solid block of silver on the model's left arm seems a little rushed and not thought out properly, as does the plasma pistols solid silver chassis. The Plasma reactor could do with a small bit of layering to give a true glow effect.

    Higgen - Kasrkin Sarge
    Nice model - like the shaved head look with his bald head 'stubbly' effect. The base has been customised but still seems a little bland. The armour doesn't appear to be highlighted or edged, but instead is varnished shiny, which doesn't really go with the model, in my opinion. Most detail has been acknowledged, but some (power sword wire for instance) has been rushed over.

    Nanolathe - Space Marine
    Nice model first of all. Huge base, perhaps too big (?!). Nice effort with the shoulder pad freehand, however the small block of yellow seems out of place on the checkered pattern. The grass on the base seems a little untidy also.
    The opposite shoulder pad seems to be missing a logo, which makes the model look incomplete and unfinished. Plasma Pistol looked good with what seems like attention to detail on the rear of the weapon.

    DarkWatcher - Deathwing Termy
    Interesting model. What struck me first sadly was the banner with the missing words/name/slogan, which hinted at it being incomplete.
    The Angel aloft the banner pole looks very nice, good job with that. The sword also looks very good, nice to see a sword that isn't a metallic (!!).
    Good work with the base, breaking up a large bit of grass with some gravel effect works well. The edging/highlighting seems to have been cheated. It seems like the model was painted a flesh colour then flesh washed in the middle to look like it was edged or highlighting... so in effect, like highlighting working backwards. The hood looks like it could use a bit of edging too.


    n00bman - Tyranid Warrior
    Nice work with the bone plating. However it could be blended better - the red seems to be the only colour visible on the end product, as it goes Black -> Red, with no inbetweens (which I know there were as I followed the blog).
    Nice colourful and interesting base, but samey- marauding type posture (i've seen that posture and similar alot at my GW and at Tournaments).

    Incinerator - Chaos Boobsnake Lord
    Umm.. Green Stuff ahoy
    The Model itself is very inventive, good use of colours where appropriate, and a nice solid marine blue for the snake body. The green stuff merging the torso to the snake however looks like it was applied without much thought - would need making thinner in my opinion.
    Nice work on the fins, they look very good.
    The base itself is quite blade however, bearing in my just how big this model is, it could have a cool diorama set up on it.

    Solomon_lok - Marine with Lightning Claws
    Colourful model - no banner insignia which is a let-down. The yellow looks like it could do with some work, either stronger edging or some high/lowlighting.
    Nice work with the base, and the details of model show through due to being picked up on. Like the skulls on the Lightning Claws too.


    (Its getting quite late now, so i'll pick up on the rest tomorrow and vote tomorrow when i've decided on which I believe achieves its goals best).
    Last edited by GroundZero; 9th Apr 07 at 6:51 PM.

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    I feel really really bad. I voted for myself before reading. Apok I am very sorry.

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    doh, didn't read the bit about no voting for myself. ah well, i figure i had no chance with some of the other great works.

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    Neo's kasrkin.
    Why? no drybush.. all line hilights. Crisper and more attaractive.

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    NeoHunter. I really couldn't think of voting on anything else.

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    A toss up between Sir Clausel's Blood Raven and Ardaeus' Salamander. I both liked the way they were painted and the pose that each had. Also, each model had an attractive base. So, I sat and really looked at the details on each model. Unfortunatly, a few things detracted from Ardaeus' model like the decal on the banner. So...

    In the end Sir Clausel got my vote because I really liked all the handpainted details on there. The chapter badge looks magnificent and I really like the details on the backpack and the seals. The chest piece also looks very cool on the Marine and the base is very cool and works well with the model.

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    I voted for Eumenes Berzerker. The red on the armor isnt that well painted, but the badass conversion and good combination of NMM and normal Metallics more then makes up for it.
    I feel if he had done a few lighter drybrushings on the base and some good highlighting on the armor he could've competed well in the upper tier.

    Eumenes im rooting for you!

    Oh, and Apok, could you give us a a link to the photo site? I had to go back and find the older thread to see the minis. Having a link here would be more convinient.

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    I voted for grimzod's Assault Space Marine. I think the base was what attracted me. Also, the painting on the guy was great too.

    However, I wished grizmod had provided a bigger and clearer picture of the guy.

    And yes. A link to Brother Armand's web site would be helpful.

    @GroundZero: Thanks for the tip! Your comments are much appreciated.
    Last edited by NeoHunter; 9th Apr 07 at 9:16 PM.

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    I, for one, appreciate your criticisms, GroundZero. I'm sure others do as well.

    You're right in everything except the varnish thing, which appears to be an issue with my way of taking photos that I need to work on. You'll be happy to know I'm pretty much redoing everything but the head and possibly the pistol, and as such I'm more than happy to be excluded from people's votes. I just wanted to get in an entry on time, even if it wasn't up to standards.

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    Cancerman got my vote. The model is super neat, and the red colth is great. superb job!

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    I went with Neohunter. It was a close one for me to choose between his Kasrkin, Ardeus' Salamander Marine, and Sir_Clausel's Blood Raven, but Neohunter's Kasrkin just looks so Crisp and clean, I just couldn't help it hehe.

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    Unfortunately I think the photo's don't do some of these justice, but I'm partial to marines and there are some good ones here, my favorite paint job and model being Grimzods Assault Marine.

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    I had a terrible time deciding on the one model to earn my vote. Each mini had its qualities and the painting was superb. I tried to look at customization, but each unique model had their moments. Finally, I looked at sheer fun, and I felt the Rabbid Ork was deserving. Excellent painting, great conversion and lots of fun!

    Thanks to everyone for their comments. I know my skills aren't as complete as others, but it was a real pleasure to join the competition.
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    I voted for Schweet - Rabbid Ork. While both IG models are outstanding, the ork had more techniques that were great. The skin was well done, the wood was well done. Even the "fake" bunny ears had a lack of detail to showed an ork hastily making a pair of plain old bunny ears!

    LordAba - Ripper Swarm
    The base ideally should be tidied up, so the node cannot be seen the underneath of with that gap.
    Yeah, I made a big mistake with glueing the node on top of the grass. I learned that lesson quick. And thanks for the reply!
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  20. Tabletop Senior Member Company of Heroes Senior Member  #20
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    D'oh! I knew I'd forget something!

    Tin has edited the link in to BA's photo webby. Sorry for the inconvenience guys.

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    Voted for BearC and his Termy. I don't know, I admit that the white isn't the best, but the rest of the model looks so well done... His base also looks good. Much more professional and impressive than my hill of skulls.

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    I went for noobmans tyrannid warrior looks realy good.

    Looks like lucius is getting a hamering in the top teir. Should he have been moved up.
    Yes i think so along with some others whos models are bad upper teir ones then good lower teir just look at the range of skill in the lower.
    There has to be 3 teirs next time.


    How often are the these comps on and whens the next one. (please be a squad just spent a week and a half putting one together)

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    I went for NeoHunter's Kasrkin, for reasons already described by others.

    And I hope, along wiht Solomon Lok, that there will be another painting competition soon; one with three tiers. I have such bad luck at these painting comps; something always seems to come up and I can never get a model done in time.
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    Neohunters kasrkin. Neat, consistent, well done model. Also good pics, some entries might be better, but becouse of small or dark pictures you can´t see all the details.

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    I voted for Eumenes' Berserker, if for no other reason than the un-bloody-believable base.

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    The second part to my constructive comments.... (remember, just focussing on where to improve, and on the main features that I like, so please don't send me body bits through the post, or put a dead horse's head next to me for when I awaken...)

    Oh, and I try to be more critical on the models that are of a better standard than the rest, for some reason... I haven't worked out why yet


    Sir_Clausel - Blood Raven Sarge
    Nice freehand logo on the shoulder pad, the chest plate raven looks a little under-detailed if I was to be very critical. The close up of the pad also reveals quite a thick and coarse textured paint covering.
    Good freehand nonetheless. Base is
    simple yet effective.

    Gialus - Witch Hunter
    This Sister of Battle has the amazingly blended/layered cape, obvious evidence of conversion too. The weapon looks a little over-the-top in my opinion, and doesn't seem to have any detail or distinct texture or features to make it stand out.
    The paint also looks like it was enamel paint - not the best choice for representing 'living' models, better suited to aircraft and vehicles.
    The base looks a little rushed, a bit of edging and drybrushing would help to bring out the detail, along with a bit of tidying up.

    FifteenHours - Penitent Psyker
    The base is the first thing that strikes me here, looking quite unfinished. The green/dead skin is different and works well, but leaves little room for edging/highlighting. There is evidence of that with the red sash, and the 'gimp helmet', although it appears a little thick and not blended in thoroughly enough.
    The model's detail has been picked out well, and the contrasting colours of the cables on the back are good - nice solid bit of colour.


    Apoc - Striking Scorpion Exarch
    Poor lighting in the photo really hinders this model. From what I can see, this model could very well be up there with the top of this tier, or even possibly (if it wasn't for the oversized shurikens) moved up to High Tier. The base looks well done, and the detail seems picked out well.
    Apart from that, I can't really comment effectively since I cannot see much else due to the lighting - sorry!

    Ardaeus - Salamanders Marine
    Nice model - bit of character there, with his 'roar' posture. Interesting base with a rare sight, and obviously a much prized model of the owner, a Dark Eldar.
    Very tidy painting, nice edging and nice freehand on the logos and shoulder pads.
    The banner is very tidy too, and just the addition of the checkered pattern has turned a fairly boring logo into a very nice banner.
    Obvious evidence of conversions and greenstuff with the scaley backpack and sash, which is quite effective.
    The skin of the head looks a little overdone, should be cooked medium-rare really, instead of well done

    Mirehn_Bielann - Space Marine Termy Captain
    Good effort here. Virtually all of the detail has been picked up on. The base looks a little rushed (a testament to this is the green flock beside the model which obviously just fell off ).
    The Stormbolter looks like it could need a bit of contrasting colours, perhaps black body/shell with the metal workings. Black Ink and Brown Ink work well to show wear and tear on metals.

    The colours seem a little adhoc, jumbled together with no true scheme set out or planned. So better planning would go a long way with this model. Also some edging and highlighting would be a positive step in the right direction, especially on models such as Marines where it is quite easy to achieve.

    rainbowmonkeys - Ratling Sniper
    Where's the model?
    Nah, seriously, interesting base - almost diorama setting. The detail of the gun seems to be neglected unfortunately, however the detail of the ratling himself seems to have been picked out well. Not much colour unfortunately, (perhaps a poor model choice?) so the layering, highlighting and lowlighting and even edging can't really be demonstrated well here.


    gunslinger578 - Fire Warrior
    Diorama setting, although the base needs a little work doing to it - as a (personal) rule of thumb the edge of the base should always be painted chaos black, it just keeps things neater. The green colour of the base would be better achieved by painting it brown then flocking it or using static grass.
    The model itself is hard to judge. I wouldn't want to overstep my mark here, but it looks like the model was base coated red, then dipped in watered down brown ink. That effect doesn't do anything for me i'm afraid, and instead makes the model look rushed with no other colours at all on the model visible to me.

    Evistro - Inquisitor
    Nice cloak on this model, it looks like one of those renaissance painters work, the way the cloak is done.
    The highlighting and edging seems a little harsh, could do with better blending. The flesh wash on the arms also appears to be undiluted which makes it look far browner than it should. Most details have been picked up on, and a good use of colour make this model interesting to look at.
    The base looks incomplete, the sand/gravel would be best painted black, then drybrushed shadow grey at the very least for a simple but effective base.

    Sobek - Thousand Sons Sorcerer
    Interesting model - although the sword arm looks a little 'bodged' near the wrist area, perhaps its just the photo. Yellow is a very hard colour to get right, especially on a darker basecoat, so brave effort on that part.
    Freehand on the tabard which is nice to see. The sword blade looks nice too, with its lightning/marble effect. The edging and highlighting looks harsh on the armour, but it actually works well on this particular model.

    Bearc - Hawk Lords Termy
    Wow, what a base.
    A very nice colour for the model - these purples always let highlights look really good for some reason, it seems to be so easy to edge.
    There are just 2 points that I believe let this model down; firstly the white storm shield/combatshield. The white looks unfinished, and rarely, does white ever look perfect as a final colour for a model, its a very tough colour to get right.
    The second point is the ThunderHammer. I don't believe the green and yellow suit the electric effect well, and whilst I acknowledge that the freehand was good, the colours don't go that well. Infact, I believe it might even suit not having any electric effects on the hammer at all (/contraversial).

    grimzod - Assault Marine Brother Tyre
    Very interesting pose, base and freehand. However, the model to me just seems cluttered with everything - the purity seals text just seems to be lines of black, and since there are so many seals, it is quite distracting.
    It is hard to fault this model further, which is a compliment to grimzod, as many of the effects are very nicely done, but it is hard to focus on the model itself, as it is more akin to a full scale diorama than a single miniature.
    The base itself, looks sloppy (from what I can see), the brown colour seems to run off the side of the base. As I stated above for another base, the rim always looks nicer kept clean and black, in my opinion.

    Master222 - Ultra's Champion
    Nice theme with the model. The mould lines are visible, as is the varnish, which don't bode well with the lighting used for the picture. So just a bit of filing on the backpack would solve the mould lines.
    The red on the chainswords looks a little thick or lumpy, so I'd recommend using more layers of thinner red for a smoother effect.
    Overall good use of colours with some good constrasts.

    ChaosLord - Space Marine Champion
    Nice model. Freehand is done, however the tabard it looks likes you were afraid to paint higher up on the cloth, where the creases were, so it looks a little odd that it begins right down the lower end of the clothing.
    The flames on the shield seem to me, to have the odd black bit showing through where it should be solid colour - but thats if i was to be very critical.
    Nice use of colour and a simple but effective base. Nice weathering on the marine's legs too.


    Now its time to consider who to vote for...

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    This one is a tough tier to judge. There's some real up and coming talent in here. In many cases, the poor phtography was more to blame over the talent of the painter. There were probably some great things to look at, but the shots didn't convey them well enough.

    My short list is Neohunter, eumenes, Nanolathe, n00bman, Sir_Clausel, rainbowmonkeys. There were a few others who tried to get in that list, but I ultimately chose to focus on these 6 entries after making some tough comparisons.

    Neo's Kasrkin is beautifully done, including a subtle attempt at OSL. Tastefully added without going overboard. The fatigues aren't as top notch as they could be, but the armor highlighting is really fantastic. I've been looking over this model alot since it was one of the earliest entrants. It's been holding a position on the short list for some time.

    eumenes did some fantastic work on the base, (skull shading is womderful), and the weapons. I thought he could've done more to highlight the armor, but overall it's an impressive model.

    Nanolathe gets a nod because it is really tough to do yellow well and for a lower tier entry, he's done a damn fine job. Nothing specific to note as exceptional, but the overall effort is to be commended.

    n00bman's entry gets solid points for really taking the brush to the areas a Nid has over conventional humanoid models. The carapace is well done as is the chitinized limbs and torso. Very strong example of the breed. This could have used much better photography to show it off, but even with the sub-par lighting, it still manages to get a decent showing.

    Sir_Clausel really impressed me with his facial work. The paint could be thinned more, (esp on the freehand shoulderpad), but overall the model is a strong representation from the group.

    rainbowmonkeys managed to do somethign I wouldn't have expected. He made me like a model I utterly disdain. I can't stand ratlings, but his highlight & shading work on the cloth, the skin, the leathers are all fantastic. It's hard not to like to work he's done.

    So, who did I ultimately choose? Did I let a D6 handle the decision for me? I wanted to choose Neohunter so bad it hurt, but decided that while the OSL and armor were good, the lack of definition in the fatigues and the choice to use the same color scheme for the Tau helmet detracted too much fro the model. (A red helmet probably would've added much more pop). I genuinely thought rainbowmonkeys could pull it off as well, althought the rifle was sub par compared to the rest of the model.

    In the end I gave the nod to eumenes. I thought he could've done much more with teh armor, but his gold highlights were well done and the real kicker is the composition of the piece. Pose, base, details, photo work, etc all played a huge part in my giving this model the nod of approval.
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    I admit that the base on my marine is a little tall, but he is flying. Also, the brown base is meant to be 'muddy'. All my marines are on mud bases as they must fit into a diorama (that is still under construction) that is a mudflat plain with some buildings sticking up out of the mud. I dont paint much that doesnt fit with my army theme.

    Sorry about the pics though. I thought they were clear enough. I had to back up a little as the arms came out fo focus if I got too close to a front shot and not much could be seen from a side shot without blocking the other arm. Live and learn.

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    By the way...can anyone write legible script on the purity seals? i tried, really i did...but it looked worse that whats there now.
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    I voted for the khorne berserkes because I love the base sooo much.

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    I voted for the ripperspawn, even though it's average painting effort goes alot further in my books. I can see that this person has made the best of their ability and that makes me vote for them.

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    I have narrowed my final choices down. But first, some justification.

    The entries submitted have all been constructed with good intentions; to provide competition, to take part, to give them motivation, to give them something to do, to see what can be achieved.
    But most of all, to me, the biggest part is taking the plunge and learning from the experience.

    The people who have been voted for already, are all the typical choices in which people are looking for:
    - Well Painted Models
    - Interesting Designs
    - Certain level of painting prowess
    - Uniqueness

    But I feel the most important aspect is actually the development of the painter's skills and the first step to this is gaining confidence by firstly realising that you are up against tough competition, and that the other people might well produce an end model that will be hard to beat, but at less effort than you applied.

    Focussing in on these models, I would stereotype them as people with motivation and drive who realise they probably won't win, but still grab the bull by the horns and go ahead and do the best bloody job they can.
    These are the people that I believe are worthy of winning in competitions like these.
    Thats not to say that the other folk gave a half-hearted effort, but the fact is that they knew that they could knock up something mediocre-good easily and escape certain 'beginner' or 'noob' titles.

    The models I have selected for the final few are ones which to me, are the building blocks for good painting to come, and serve as a big learning experience to the painter.
    They should be under no illusions however, they may not win the competition, but the fact that people recognise their effort should account for much more than this.

    The ones I don't mention display qualities that I believe put them above these, and such, won't learn as much, or in some cases, have taken such a gamble or contraversially, tried their damnest to get it right.

    And so, without further ado:

    Evistro - Inquisitor
    Mirehn_Bielann - SM Term
    LordAba - Ripper Swarm
    gunslinger578 - Tau Fire Warrior

    These 4 all deserve a very big pat on the back for the effort they applied to the models which is very obvious by the levels of detail they have shown, but just not-quite-pulling it off as well as the others, but they didn't bury their heads, they perservered.

    The most notable of which to me, is LordAba's Ripper Swarm.

    Whilst it looks basic, and not well thought out with obvious mistakes to the veteran painters like you or I or even the Golden Demon lot, the painter is obviously very proud in his work, focusing his camera right in on the detail, in well lit conditions to show exactly what he had done. There was no distant photographs to hide imperfections, or dark pictures to hide slip-ups, it was displayed as it is, which is admirable in my book.

    Therefore, LordAba, my vote goes to you. You have achieved a great deal so far, and will ultimately go on increasing in skill like the rest of the folk here, but I believe your effort level will act as a catalyst for your future developments.

    Good job to all, and winning isn't what matters. It's the taking part and personal achievement that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroundZero
    The base is the first thing that strikes me here, looking quite unfinished
    Quite unfinished? It was completely unfinished hehe. I was just running out of time, plus I didn't have any materials on hand that I felt would have improved the base, and felt that it would take away from the model a touch IMO. I had thought of doing something with it, but felt that it would prolly detract from the model, as the base would prolly be a rush job....live and learn I suppose.
    Also as far as the skin goes, I wanted a more desicated look, and I did want to add some more variation to it, but strangely a handful of my paints have gone AWOL. As far as the highlighting and such goes, I'm kind of new to the techniques, so they're a little rough. Any advice perhaps to improve the appearances there?
    Overall I really appreciate the constructive criticism...only way to improve really hehe.

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    First of all I would like to say good job to you all.

    Second I would like to say that of all the models that struck me it was the Ratling that won over. good Job Rainbowmonkey

    Third I would like to respond to Ground Zero, my paints are not enamel paints, they are Reaper Miniature model paints.

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    Third I would like to respond to Ground Zero, my paints are not enamel paints, they are Reaper Miniature model paints.
    Sorry for the confusion, it just resembled enamel thats all

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimzod
    By the way...can anyone write legible script on the purity seals? i tried, really i did...but it looked worse that whats there now.
    I don't think anyone can. Most people (if not all) would actually just paint or draw on some broken lines on the purity seals or talbard to make it look like there is writing there but its too small to see. You can take a look at Games Workshop painted miniatures. They never write anything that you can read on their purity seals.

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    Perhaps you could if you had some sort of pin-point robotic arm to do it...otherwise I don't really see how such small text is realistically possible...

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    Keep the topic of discussion to voting. Technique discussion belongs in another thread.

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    Hell of a turnout in this tier.
    All the entries look very nicley done with a few that really stood out to me. In the end I found myself comparing other the mini's to NeoHunter's Kasrkin trying to justify not expanding his already enormous lead in the polls. But then I realized he's got that lead for a damn good reason and that's because it's a damn fine mini.
    I do think it's in the right tier but to me it's just clearly the best overall package.
    Nice work everyone.
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    IMO, it was painted really well and obviously a lot of effort has gone into it

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    IMO the pictures are very small to judge the work as precisely as I wished to. (and I really have a big screen ... yet still)
    Some pictures are also very poorly taken which doesn't help either.

    You guys need to learn how to take pictures of minis. There was a thread here on the forums how to do that (many experienced ppl contributed to it.... also some not so experienced as myself ), I would suggest to make a tutorial on how to take pictures in the tutorial section.

    edit: this one
    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=141020

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    Quote Originally Posted by GroundZero
    The edging/highlighting seems to have been cheated. It seems like the model was painted a flesh colour then flesh washed in the middle to look like it was edged or highlighting... so in effect, like highlighting working backwards. The hood looks like it could use a bit of edging too.
    Actually, no. These plates have been blended from the darker vomit brown up to skull white/bleached bone. No cheating at all.

    As for the banner, yes. It is missing some text, but I've not quite decided what this model is going to be. A Deathwing Sergeant or Belial himself. Until i decide that i don't want to apply text. Secondly i feel that my text will take a very long time being practiced before being applied. I don't want to mess it up!

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    You guys need to learn how to take pictures of minis. There was a thread here on the forums how to do that (many experienced ppl contributed to it.... also some not so experienced as myself ), I would suggest to make a tutorial on how to take pictures in the tutorial section.
    Try this one:
    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=58080

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