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What Hardware should i have to see the Beauty of CoH?

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    What Hardware should i have to see the Beauty of CoH?

    I have been playing the game for awhile and it bugs me bad when i zoom in and stuff is a little blurry and blocky. I wanted to know what i need to see this game for what it really is. Right now i am running 1 gb ram, 2.0 AMD 3200+ and a 6100 nvidia graphics card. What is every one eles running that plays this game on high? Thanks in advance!

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    Sprinkles
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    -extra gig of ram
    -another core cpu
    -8800 nvida graphics card

    Thatl make it even look better after Dx10 patch.

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    How big of a CPU do you think i need? Or are you saying get a duel core? I am no computer Wiz, but from what i hear duel core doesn't help gameing much, so please explain.

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    I would say, 3 foot by 8 would work.

    I have a Pentium 4 Duo 3.0, 2 gigs of ram and an 8800 GTS Video Card and I COULD run it on full resolution...but Relic still haven't fixed the ultra textures in Vista.

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    So the 8800 is a must or is there an alternative video card out that will run it on high specs? I don't really have the $250=shipping for a new card.

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    A dual core CPU will help, that's for sure.

    Start with the extra GB of memory, that'll speed up load times.

    Then look at upgrading your video card. If your motherboard is already PCI-E capable, then one of the new upcoming 8600 cards from nVidia would be a good choice.

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    You sure i should go Duel core or just shoot for a bigger single? I was looking at a 2.6 AMD perhaps.

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    Misterwight
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    Your video card is your current stumbling block, by my estimation. The game would get a lot prettier if you upgraded it. A budget upgrade would be something like a 7600GT. You could go a lot higher, but then other parts of your system would be holding you back. If you have PCI-E, you can get a noticeably better card for under $100 if you look. Try newegg.

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    I do Have PCI-E , What card do you think i should purchase? My only concern is haveing to upgrade again when opposing Fronts comes out. What choice do you think i should go with?

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    I have a core 2 duo e6600, 2 gigs of OCZ Ram, and a 1900XT. I have all graphic settings maxed and I have only found one person that loads faster than me and that is my cousin, which has same processor as me, 2 gigs of XMS Ram, and a 8800gtx

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    gaping_maw
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    I run an e6400, 8800gts 320mb card, 2 gig ram. damn sexy game .. there are odd surface texture problems sometimes with some nvidia drivers, but these are transient.

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    geeez, do you all run intel? lol What would one of those processors be comparable to in the AMD field?

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    I'm running on maximum eye candy on 1280x0124 (only antialiasing is only set to 2x) with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, 2 Gigs of DDR2 and a Radeon 1900GT.

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    42 inch screen

    duel 512 video

    Vista

    4 gig Ram

    7.1 suround sound system
    We shall rule this galaxy once more.

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    I'd say that the order of precedence for upgrading would be video card first (you don't need an 8800 for CoH, but if you want to see it in its DirectX 10 glory in the future and you have the money then that's the way to go), processor second (a dual-core, ideally), and RAM last (you don't really NEED any more than 1gb these days, contrary to what people say, but it helps).

    42 inch screen
    Nice.

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    I've got a Dual Core e6300 with 2 Gigs of RAM and an nVidia 7950GT. I can run the game with everything on max with no slowdown at all.

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    I run an E6700 @ 3.2 GHz, 3 Gb DDR2-800, 768 Mb 8800GTX, X-Fi Platinum, Dual 320 GB Seagate Barracuda Hard Drives, a 20" 16:10 monitor @ 1680x1050, and a Logitech THX Z-5450 5.1 System. Can you say <3 at first sight?

    Anyway, I would suggest spending at least $600 on your graphics card and CPU, preferably $1000, and then get 2 GB of Ram, a dedicated sound card, a stable power supply and motherboard, and a nice case to put it all in. Other things like your hard drives and optical drives should be neither cheap nor expensive. $40 will get you a good DVD burner these days, and Seagate is probably the way to go with hard drives nowadays. I'd say for the tower itself you'd be looking at anywhere from $1200-$2000 for a computer that you'll be happy with for a few years.

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    I got a P4 3.2ghz, 3GB ram, and ATI X800 video card.

    Runs very smoothly, no complaints. The one thing that changed it was upgrading from 1gb -> 3gb of ram without any other changes in my system, and it went from lag city when watching MG duels to no lag at all...

    It appears that 2GB ram is the breaking point there, since CoH takes about 700MB of system memory when running.

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    Honestly, don't get an 8800. You want the game to look good, and you have a 6100 right now, I have a 5950 so I can understand what your current settings are. Find a 7600...7900 max. You will be happy with the performance and it won't cost much. Dual core processors aren't prevalent with this game either, nothing like Alan Wake where it is required (as in one core used only for physics). It would help, but not that much.

    Unless you plan on building brand new, just get better than what you have hardware for the moment. From what I am picking up you aren't concerned with going into the next generation of DX10 gaming. And when that time does come, salvage parts from your current computer to help lower the cost (dvd drive for example), and build it yourself as that can cut down the price up to half.

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    yeah, follow what calvin said. 8800s are expensive, like someone suggested earlier a 7600GT ( i think theyre about 120$) would be great. ive found that more ram can help smoothness issues in CoH, but if you cant afford it then dont sweat it. as for CPUs i hear there will be a price drop on AMDs and Intels, so keep your eyes peeled on newegg.com or tigerdirect.com but i think your CPU will be OK for just getting better graphics

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    2 gig's of RAM makes a huge difference in performance. I am talking night and day here. As far as buying a video card, it wouldn't be a bad idea either. Like calvin2032/deadlyseven suggests, stick to a ~$100.00 card. Honestly, all you want is something to tide you over for 3 months till some decent competition happens with DX10, and prices come down. Barely any games take advantage of it right now, and for gods sake you need Windows Vista (POS)!

    I'm running the game with the bottom of the line Intel Duel Core E6300, 2 gigs of RAM, and an ATI 1650. The game plays like silk, and the upgrade from 1gig to 2 gigs of RAM was in-your-face as far as benefit was noticed.

    Each of those components are about a $100.00 (RAM, Video Card, CPU). I would probably upgrade in that order too.
    "Only the insane are strong enough to survive, and only those who survive judge what is sane."

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    calvin2032
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    True about the RAM. But if you want prettier visuals, you need the video card. If you just want it to run smoother, then get RAM. A combo would be great, but you don't sound like you are about spending too much cash.

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    Yup, 2Gb RAM and a Radeon X1950 Pro is the best value combo. Unless you run 1900x1200 in which case your budget isn't going to cut it.

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    It runs just fine as is, i just want to God looks. i wan going to buy the 7600, think that will do the trick? I hate to buy new RAM cause i just upgraded from 512 to 1 GB now i will have FOUR spare sticks of RAM laying around. And the processor is my lest want to do. Not only are they expensive for a not so big jump in GHz, but i hear they are tricky to install, so i would have to pay an instaltion fee on top the cost fo the processor itself. I think i might try going with the Video card upgrade, whats my best bet for a PCI-E card around say $100?

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    www.slickdeals.net had a 8800 for 219 (I think). It was PCIE only, and had some rebates or something, but it might be worth looking at if you want to spend that much.

    I didnt look over the card much right now because I'm not interested, but you can look it up on Tomshardware.com and see how it did.


    *Edit* Here is a review of the best cards for your money. It breaks them down by price and gives benchmarks.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/04/...for_the_money/

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    Thanks, i will look at it now.

    Edit: I think i am going to try Either the Gefore 7600 GS or the geforce 7600 GT. I need your help on the Decesion(since i have really no real idea what i am looking at when it comes to video cards). Specs for them
    7600 GT
    Chipset Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Core clock: 560MHz
    DirectX: DirectX 9
    DVI: 2
    Memory Clock: 1400MHz(effective)
    Memory Interface: 128-bit
    OpenGL: OpenGL 2.0
    PixelPipelines: 12
    TV-Out: HDTV / S-Video / Composite Out
    VIVO: No
    Model #: 256-P2-N550 -T2
    $106

    7600 GS
    Chipset Manufacturer: NVIDIA
    Core clock: 400MHz
    D-SUB: 1
    DirectX: DirectX 9
    DVI: 1
    Memory Clock: 800MHz(effective)
    Memory Interface: 128-bit
    OpenGL: OpenGL 2.0
    PixelPipelines: 12
    TV-Out: HDTV / S-Video / Composite Out
    Model #: 256-P2-N541-T2
    $95
    Last edited by Hribal; 16th Apr 07 at 2:54 PM.

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    7600 GT is better. I'd go with that one. The memory speed is almost twice as fast and the core clock is faster also.

    If you know how to install it yourself check www.newegg.com. They tend to have the cheapest (Or close to it) prices and great service.

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    Radeon x1950 Pro with user overclock and some tweaks as specified in the most this most awesome performance tweak guide ( http://www.tweakguides.com/TGTC.html ) will get you running COH on highest settings for sure

    btw user overclock voids your warranty but, its only 120$ so its not that big of a deal. BE SURE TO OVERCLOCK CAREFULLY

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    in answer to the OP, it depends on your resolution but i have a 7600GT which runs most things high/medium with AA on at 1024x786 (highest my monitor can go )

    if you wait a bit the 8600 will be a cheap great buy with similair performance to a 7900GT

    Ram really does help im afraid, 2GB will be becoming standard, another 1gb stick would do the trick (or 2 x512mb sticks depending on what you have in there already)

    CoH does use dual core. i didnt find installing my AMD particularly hard however, but i guess it depends on confidence of skill. i currently have a X2 4600 at 2.7Ghz and its great, never had a problem with even old games. theres still life in the 939 socket !!!

    on top of all that power supply is a must. did you buy your pc from dell or similair? as that may be a factor you need to consider.
    graphics card first i think mate, but it may be worth waiting a month or so for the 8600.

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    Let me echo the others and recommend the GT version. I have a 7600GS, and the only reason I got it was because I'm stuck on AGP, and the price difference was highway robbery vs. the PCI-E version. Since you have PCI-E, definitely go with a GT model - it's a world of difference in benchmarks.

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    Well i think when ati releases its r600 the prices of the nvidia8800 will drop and when intel quad core gets more supported core 2 duo will also get cheaper.. Wich mean that amd will also get cheaper. For now an ok amd proc would be a AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4200+ (130$)

    Make sure you buy the right socket (the amd above uses 939)

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    But does directx10 really make that much difference? Either in regards to performance or graphics, both are important. I'm toying with the idea of finally actually upgrading and if DX10 is really something special, I might go for a vista partition for gaming but only since I don't have to actually buy the OS (MSDN sub through work, no I'm not pirating it ). Curious what the overall opinions are.

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    Well in coh dx10 makes the lighting much better and and........ well thats it for coh.
    For coh there isnt really abig difference bitween dx9 and dx 10 but for other games (like crysis) Dx10 makes all the difference.

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    Well in coh dx10 makes the lighting much better and and........ well thats it for coh.
    For coh there isnt really abig difference bitween dx9 and dx 10 but for other games (like crysis) Dx10 makes all the difference.
    Wait, how do you know this? As far as I knew screenshots had not been released yet (OpFront screens aside).

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    there's more differences than just lighting, alot of physics stuff, not gona be a major change tho

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    AMD x64 3200+ (overed a bit) , 2 gigs corsair, 7900GT game runs smooth on high quality for a reasonable priceing of the machine.

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    I just upgraded from a 2800 Sempron, 1gig and a 6800; to an e6600, 8800GTS and 2gigs.

    It's nicer, but certainly not "Night and day".. Sorry to say it, but COH isn't really that system intensive, for better or for worse.

    F.E.A.R, on the other hand, has been the proverbial night and day. To be honest, if you're an avid gamer, you should upgrade, COH or no COH. The only caveat that I'd add is that It wasn't quite the leap I had imagined it would be, I got some pretty good performance out of my 6800. Still, I now have a great 2 player LAN setup.

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    Yes there are dx10 not opposing front screenshots of coh. (i dunno where i saw them..)

    Dx10 also adds volumetric grass all around the map.
    But it is sow small that you wont notice it until youre fully zoomed in.

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    I whould wait for at least 1 year before i switch or canibalise my system for a vista compatible one. Some fake screenshots and tech demos dont do it for me.

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    Im a big newbie on computers and i just wanna see what u guys say about this one im buying, im not sure of all the shortwords etc so im just gonna write it down like it says on my paper

    Intel core2duo e6600 2,4ghz
    2048mb 667mhz ddr2 memory
    MSI PCI-e GF7950GT 512MB,heatpipe.

    Thanks

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    so 7600GT it is?

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    Yes there are dx10 not opposing front screenshots of coh. (i dunno where i saw them..)

    Dx10 also adds volumetric grass all around the map.
    But it is sow small that you wont notice it until youre fully zoomed in.
    Interesting, I'll have to go seek those out then

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    Hardly anyone here is making any reasonable suggestions. His CPU should be ok - not great, but decent - for CoH. With a sound card to take some of the audio load off the CPU, it should perform better. But what would be very helpful:

    7600 GT - goes for $100 USD on Newegg
    1 GB RAM - goes for $80 on Newegg

    That's really all you need to run at pretty nice settings. Your computer would only be a notch below mine with that (I have an overclocked 6800 GS, an Athlon 3700+, and 2GB of RAM).

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    I have 1GB ram (2x512 corsair) and a 5.1 sound card (running 5 speakers and a sub).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImperialWolf
    Im a big newbie on computers and i just wanna see what u guys say about this one im buying, im not sure of all the shortwords etc so im just gonna write it down like it says on my paper

    Intel core2duo e6600 2,4ghz
    2048mb 667mhz ddr2 memory
    MSI PCI-e GF7950GT 512MB,heatpipe.

    Thanks

    Pretty good pc (you must have alot of money) Maybe you should switch the MSI PCI-e GF7950GT for a nvidia 8800gtx.

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    Guys, I just read a review on the GeForce 8800GTS. For about $220, it's hands down the absolutely best card for that money. Apparently, it substantially owns all X1950 cards.

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    My game looks fantastic and plays at an average of 60 FPS, I believe. I have a 2.6 ghz dual core processor, with only a gig of ram. My video card is the 7600GT PCIe (overclocked edition). For the money, I've been extremely impressed with this card.

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    I can only confirm the suggestion that Geforce 7600 GT is very good upgrade path for your computer and multiple times faster than your current GPU.

    2 GiB RAM is hardly necessary for CoH, the speed increase would be insignificant or non existant compared to what a faster GPU would do.
    http://www.gamespot.com/features/6158594/p-6.html

    If you are willing to invest a bit more and wait a while, I'd keep eye on recently released 8500/8600 cards and how they perform in CoH.
    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2970

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    Like most people are suggesting, get either:

    7600GT

    or

    Extra 1gb Memory

    CoH looks great on my 7600GT (High on most settings, im using auto settings), so its highly recommended from me. Also when i added an extra gig to my own system (now 2gb), the game ran ALOT smoother and loaded up alot quicker.

    There imo are your best upgrades. Upgrade the proccesor in the future when you really want to :P.

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    Is the 7950GT as good as 7600GT?

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