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[Gen] The Art of Blitzkrieg: The 2nd Shooting Challenge (ENDS IN A BLAST!)

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    You actually have to win combat to inflict the glancing blows. Meaning you have to glance or penetrate more times than he wounds you. It's a pretty mediocre rule.

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    Glad I finally killed it, but god-damn I can't believe it took so long. Hit with 3 melta shots and every one of them was brought down to glancing! And how many times did he fire frenzy against me? lol.

    Edit.... Hmmm... Deamonhunters. How about a Purigator squad with psycannons up the yazoo? That could be a good fight! (Plus if I get a good roll for my Plaguebanner I could get a pile of kills in! heheheh)

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    Can anyone say butcherd?

    And I have no idea what I was smoking when I did my entry, I seem to have overcharged myself by 16 points! I could have had a shield drone in there.
    d'oh

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    The squad turns around in bewildered amazement, mouths agape at Sister Alicia, her face obscured by the smoke from the meltagun's barrel. After it clears, Alicia gets up on her tiptoes to survey her handiwork. With a shepish grin she shrugs and says, "Uhhh... The Emperor protects?"

    Prediction - you can't really get much out of a Grey Knight squad shooty-wise for 200 points or less. You get 5 GKs with a 2 Psycannons for that amount. I'm banking on an Inquisitor or Stormtroopers. Are Deamonhosts shooty? IIRC they have this odd table of powers to roll on.
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    Oh crud... that sucked, seems I have to get my squig trainer to discipline my squiggoth a bit for the next time Well well, there are more rounds for my proud lizard to shine in.

    Though one thing, I might have missed something in the challenge rules, but squiggoths are fearless.

    EDIT: Oh an I am sure I just mistook the way you wrote it, but when you said failed to glance on my rokkits, rokkits are str hurmdihurm and should be able to glance on a 5 and penetrate on a 6 on a dread with mutated hull? or am I way out there and just have not had my coffee yet ^^

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    Oops.. I didn't notice that he had to go by the 200pt limit too, suppose that makes sense since he was only 10 pts over in the last one and that was with the finalist.

    But then, 5 Grey Knights with their shrouding rule could be hard to take down!

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    My Meltagun is made of awesomeness and win

    Excellent, I hope my other weapons are just as accurate/lucky.
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    Crap! I didn't notice that small line.
    Will continue the fight there, just wait.

    ps. Yep, glance on 5 and penetrate on 6.

    Edit: Cancelled the line of Morale Check and make Fearlessness wounds instead. Your Squigy fails to save the second wound so it dies in the last turn of firing. Thus, the result doesn't change.
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    Thats much manlier of my squiggie than just running off much love General!

  10. #160
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    I can see that being one of my best rounds. I also had the feeling that vehicles would have a real issue and it seems I was right on that one too.

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    Geez. Talk about bad luck, even for an appropriate entry.

    Oh well. Let's see how the next round fairs.

    I'm sort of looking hard at Jian's entry and trying to figure out how precisely did 2 hits occur while using Vibrocannons. I suppose you are using them with either your template rule or at your discretion, but a battery of vibrocannons can only ever score one glancing hit on a target with an armor value.

    Also MooFreaky's entry , while being obliterated by the Dreadnought with Fire Frenzy, didn't really have anything to deal with Armor 13 :P
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    BG, assuming I came a squad of say, 5 models - since I have 5 flamer templates each one could inflict a hit on each model yes? so each enemy model would take 5 hits? (assuming the D6+3's weren't 1's)?
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    Actually Orion, I read the words about VC is that "Each VC hits cause 1 Glancing Hit". Since they've the special rule against normal enemies, I figured that VC may work like that against armour. I may be wrong though.

    moleytov: Good question. The templates will be resolved separately so each template will cause D6+3 hits, providing the enemy isn't a single model.
    However, this is somehow overpowered so I'll take it as notes for the 3rdSC.

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    Well Yes. You are right about that. But considering that the line is only ever drawn from one Vibrocannon, I fail to see how the other 3 can contribute. Its too late to change the result now, but either way, I don't think anyone is overtly fussed.

    Against normal squads, the line will only ever do D6 hits, No matter how many Vibrocannons are actually in the squad. Against an armored Vehicle, it doesn't do D6 hits, it only ever does a single glancing hit. Against a Vehicle squadron, you do D6 hits, and each vehicle in the squadron takes only up to 1 glancing hit, no matter how much the D6 result is.

    Additional Vibrocannons are only used to twinlink or triplelink the first and to give it additional strength. None of their to hit rolls are actually targetting anything. (which is why they are great against Stealth suits,Harlequins or in Nightfight)

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    I know it is an evil think but I can't help hoping the Eldar choice will be an avatar, just for resistance to heat weapons rule.

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    That would indeed be pretty funny worsle

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    yes, yes it would. my 5x S9 weapons will be laughing. (hopefully)

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    They'll wound on 2+ but Avatar will get its 3+ Armour Save.

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    Actually I'd forgetten about the wound on a 2+. Even better. I was more happy about the advantage it had of the commonplace melta weaponary, and over CrossOrion's successful swipe of the Fire Dragon entry!!!
    *Grumble* Bloody space marine armour saves...*Grumble*
    well it IS an fragment of a god, embodied in molten iron I suppose...

    This is all of course, assuming it is an avatar we are up against.
    The dice gods can do anything. I'll just have to wait and see huh?

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    Yeah, just wait and see that.
    All thoughts are possible anyway......

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    Yes well the avatar would mean every one can laugh at CrossOrion, er I mean feel sorry for him.

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    Were those funny blast rules in effect against the dreadnought? I ask because my few Mega Blasta hits didn't seem to inflict multiple hits, just one each, and they do use a blast template, just a query.

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    The Venerable Dreadnought stalks forward through the mist, and almost walks its traitorous counterpart. The half a millennia old space marine hasn't even time to bring its weapons to bear before the Chaos Dread shoots him down.

    Dammit, I'm sure I should have beaten it and would likely have been amoung the best in this round too. Just goes to show how fickle the dice gods really are.

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    Regarding to the ridiculous Blast/Template rules in 1stSC, I'd fixed the rules that if only a single model is the enemy of those using blasts/templates, then each of them will only cause 1 hit.

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    *Slips BG a fiver*.
    A bit close, but I'm glad I actually did passably well in this round.
    My money for the next round is on a GK dread

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    Not for BG's eyes - no, seriously

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    Nah, I'm guessing it'll be a psycannon =I= with a shooty retinue - fragile sure, but they get first strike so I'm betting BG hopes they can cripple the challenger before they return fire.

    I don't think it'll be GK, there is five challengers that they can't even scratch (vehicles with front armor over 12).

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    Whoah. I survived. I don't want to think about what MeQ's will do to my Guardians, though.

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    These days I'm pretty busy to write an essay. Oh well, so this round will be posted later than now.
    ==============================================
    Round 2
    Against Daemonhunters

    the opponent in this round



    players’ performance



    BG's comments:
    I'm pretty stunned for 2 things in the round. First, how crappy my rolls for the ISTs are. Second, still so many people (19 in total) who dies in this fight. Inititally I really want to pick an Inquisitor with Incinerator and the retinue, but I realize that how low survivability they are so I dropped that.

    Next time, Dark Eldar. That's the best unit I've picked so far, so place your bets on that.
    ==============================================

    results of this round

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    Here's hoping that the submunition round will blow some holes in those storm troopers.
    Chin up you ugly bastard

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    Hmmm... They could do some serious damage to me with those 4 high strength weapons.
    BUt I should toast them and paguebanner them pretty quickly as long as I get half decent rolls on my shooting.

  32. #182
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    I'm not going to dare doing a simulation, I have a bad feeling about those things ignoring my armour. Then on the other hand if I am lucky I can wipe them out pretty quick with my 3 heavy weapons and 10 shootas.

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    Doohicky: Only 3, since 2 Pistols count as TLed.

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    Ooh just noticed something though, the good part is that hellguns can't scratch my toughness I am still afraid of that plasma and melta since they have quite a bit of meatwall until I get to them.

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    Yay, my conscripts can do something. Go conscripts, die for the emperor against...um...other people willing to die for the emperor?
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    Nareik123 clearly the fight started like this.

    Conscripts: We love the emperor more!

    Stormtroopers: We love the emperor more!

    Conscript: No, we love the emperor more!

    Stormtroopers: Nonono! We love the emperor more!

    Conscripts: Are you questioning our love for the emperor?

    Stormtroopers: Maybe we are, are you questioning ours?
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    They then do a destinty child thing of the conscript an inch away from the trooper.

    Conscript: Sod you Storm trooper.

    *Conscript fires and misses*

    Conscript: Aw crap...

    *Storm trooper at the fire melts conscript with a melta gun.

    Conscripts: Um, you love the Emperor more?

  38. #188
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    Dread facing melta guns? *looks at result of last round*

    *sacrifices D100*

    Please spare me, oh fickle dice gods!

  39. #189
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    The pure volume of shots here is going to mess me over, if I can survive until my fist round of shooting it will be ok though. With the two melta guns it is not a great situation for tanks again, they are just to easy to prevent from shooting but some of them will do a lot of damage if they do get a shot off.

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    come on flamer templates - splat em good. hurrah for inv. saves against plasma!

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    Moleytov you might want to worry a little about the 13 hellguns rapid firing your way

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    shush. I know. (gulp) trying not to think about it.
    *much sacrificing*

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    Evolution having finally found the holy grail of dices (Schrödingers quantum d6, the dice that at a single roll faces 1,2,3,4,5,6 and none of the above at the same time), proceeds to sacrifice it to the dice gods so he may have better luck this round.

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    Yes, with all three guns blazing, i shouldnt fail this one.
    need to worry about Melta and Plasmas though.
    Do the pistol fire one shot or two shots?

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    Oh Dear...

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    Still think it will be a world of hurt!

    2 Melta shots and 2 twin linked Plasma shots (assume rapid fire) along with 26 Lasgun shots (I think). Ouch!
    But then, I think other entries will feel the pain more than me.

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    Well, I really have to hope that the meltaguns miss or fail to penetrate, which is statistically improbable. If somehow my tank does manage to survive, I get 1 Heavy Bolter and 2D6+6 S5 hits that ignore Stormtrooper armor saves.

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    As long as my sisters don't break, I think I have this next fight in the bag.

    (I just jinxed myself, btw)

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    Thank god for two heavy flamers... still, those meltas and plasmas will be difficult. Ah well, could have been worse

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    I think you're going to do pretty well Turnbull, the hell guns can't touch you and if either of the meltas or plasma fail to hit, you wipe a huge part of the squad in return fire. I think it'll all come down to if you lose a Land Speeder in the first round of shooting. I think you'll either fail outright or get first place.

    And if you win the strategy dice off for second turn you pretty much have it made.

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