"Battle of the Bulge" - recruiting Betatesters -

[Nintendochamp]

I didn't make it. Thank Marcus over at the BotB forums. I simply shared it on here since the download on the other forums was faulty.

[euryanx]

Appreciate the hotfix and your honesty.

Discovered the repair truck doesn't repair. Am I missing something"? Or is there a way to get it to work?

Noticed the AI doesn't build armor. And without the ability to repair armor, as it stands the game has become an infantry only game.

Even with those limitations, it still has enough interesting variations to make it a fun mod.

[fragiator]

@euryanx

the repair-truck won't repair for itself. you have use the pios inside manually. but the pios will repair faster when their repair-truck is nearby.

[euryanx]

Thanks! Will give it a try.

[GunsEmpty]

Can I still play this mod on Skirmish mode if I upgrade above 2.301??

I want to upgrade so I can play Blitzkrieg and Normandy 44, but I don't want to lose this mod.....



EDIT: Decided to upgrade. I wanted to try Blitzkrieg and Normandy 44. I didn't like Normany44, but Blitz was decent.


Still, WHEN is this one going to be compatible with 2.6!! AHHHHHHH!?!?!

[Panzer_Jager]

ETA on compatibility or have you thrown in the towel with all the patching bullshit

[Border Patrol]

i think halftrack is stuck on eastern front ATM.
ah well.
youd think eventually relic would wise up and give you some modding tools. or take your mods and make them into xpacks *cough* tau *cough*

[No More Clowns!]

does anyone here know how to make crewed AT guns crushable? i got it to work empty guns, but tanks won't crush crewed ones. now that this mod is mostly inactive, i want make other mods like this one.

[GunsEmpty]

This mod needs to become active again. I wish someone who knows how would take this thing over and update it. It's by far the best mod for this game....better than Blitz or N44.

[Celution]

You can do it yourself, the problem is it takes time.
You need to update the module, .ucs file, racebps, some ebps/sbps and a ton of more things.
Thereby the custom sounds won't work, unless you make new ones yourself (or ask Xalibur if you can use his).
And since they edited SCAR files, you will have to remake those too.

[simanos]

Bugs or features?

Why do scouts insta-teleport to buildings when I click their ability while en route to a building? It's a great mobility cheat for capping, ambushes and defence. At least you can only get 3 squads.

Why are some German artillery pieces able to (right-click) attack with their main gun giving a devastating constant barrage? The 3 culprits are Wespe, Maultier, and amazingly the heaviest mortar of all Sturmtiger (although it has a very long reload). No need to pay ammo most of the time.

Also the German ability that gives 400 Fuel for 1 xp as it says in the tooltip, seems to cost 250 ammo instead of 1 xp and it makes your manpower income go very low for some time (may increase ammo and fuel income for same time a bit though), weird.
In contrast the other German tree has an ability that gives income increase (all 3 types) for 350 ammo seems to have some sort of stacking effect, cause at the end of some 4v4 skirmishes I had insane incomes (especially ammo and fuel).

Thanks for the mod. I'm having lots of fun with it! Is there any way to increase the max zoom out of the camera? I use the camera zoom out mod for normal CoH, can I insert that in BoB? Also I seem to be destroying all my AT gun (and crews), running them over with my own vehicles (friendly fire?). Any tips to avoid that?

[Grand Moff Tarkin]

I thought I would try this mod out as it was a suggestion from others at the NHC mod. I have no problem playing NHC mod 1.4d however once I installed BotB 2.3(latest I can find) it will not even start up... I have all patched up to ToV so maybe this is why? Any help? I must play with the Strumtiger!!!

[Panzer Jager]

Not 2.5 compatible, or anything higher. ToV patched fully is 2.6.

[Grand Moff Tarkin]

Ahh... Ok so is this mod still in the works to be upped to the ToV 2.6?

[euryanx]

Check post #2029 for a link to a hotfix. Doesn't make the mod perfect - the computer AI will not build armor. But at least it enables you to play the mod with 2.6.

[simanos]

So can anyone answer my questions please?

PS: I tried using the -dev command (in the shortcut) but it seems to load the default CoH and not the mod. So I guess that doesn't work with mods, does it?

[pojarsma]

Also I seem to be destroying all my AT gun (and crews), running them over with my own vehicles (friendly fire?). Any tips to avoid that?

U can use the mouse , right click around?

[euryanx]

So can anyone answer my questions please?

PS: I tried using the -dev command (in the shortcut) but it seems to load the default CoH and not the mod. So I guess that doesn't work with mods, does it?

Here's what I have in the command line:

"C:\Program Files\THQ\Company of Heroes\RelicCOH.exe" -mod BotB -dev

[simanos]

"G:\Program Files\THQ\Company of Heroes\BotBMod.exe"
is what the auto-installer of BotB gave me. I tried the -dev command on that.

You think if I tried it your way it would work?
Let me check that...

Nope, that also loads default CoH and not the mod. Weird. Any other suggestions?
(At least I can use the commands I want in skirmishes without -dev; like setsimrate(x) for the speed controls that the official game is sadly missing and there's always pause, but no fog_toggle)


PS: pojarsma the pathing is bad so it's hard to avoid accidental destruction some times. Also my (CPU) allies do it to me too. I just find it an unwise decision on the part of this excellent mod's designers.


EDIT: Apparently there's a camera lua in the BoB directory and I changed it with the one from the zoom out mod and it works. I also added the file WW2Data_camera.sga for good measure (was that even needed?).
BTW, why is one of the enemy CPU players (in my 4v4) a stupid black colour that makes its text invisible? Where do I change that? And can I make the white circles around fallen weapons appear again, because that bit of realism is getting on my nerves lately

EDIT2: I think the offending color was pewter (170,170,170) and I will try removing it from BotB's teamcolours.lua; hope that works.
Weird that didn't seem to work

[euryanx]

"G:\Program Files\THQ\Company of Heroes\BotBMod.exe"
is what the auto-installer of BotB gave me. I tried the -dev command on that.

You think if I tried it your way it would work?
Let me check that...

Nope, that also loads default CoH and not the mod. Weird. Any other suggestions?

Sadly no. I cut/paste the command line right from the shortcut on my desktop. All I can say is that it works for me.

[izaktj]

I'm getting unexpected end of archive with the rar hotfix. Can you upload it to mediafire?
Tried downloading from botb.fiffa.net and here, with IE, firefox, chrome. Non worked. The rar files seems to be screwed, it might be something with attaching it.
I'd suggest uploading to mediafire/rapidshare/megaupload etc.

[Beefy^]

@simanos try changing the target from botb.exe to and i am presuming that you havnt updated your company of heroes to a version higher than 2.301

"G:\Program Files\THQ\Company of Heroes\RelicCOH.exe" -dev -nomovies -modname botb

[simanos]

Hmm, that seems to work. Thanks.
So in my 2.301 version -modname works and -mod doesn't?
I still can't fix the stupid team colour for some reason...

Anyway, no one commented on the teleporting scouts and the free German artillery. I'm guessing the scout thing is an engine bug, but the arty thing is a feature, since it's easily fixable?

[Halftrack]

no, arty was a bug too, it was fixed for a later version, which never came out due to incompability with CoH 2.5 (ToV)

The scout bug honestly was unknown to me.

[Gamerisin]

@Halftrack:is the BotB team working on a ToV compatibe version???Or they quit making improvements???

[Halftrack]

there is no team at the moment. just me, and i lack the time to care for it.

[simanos]

I see. I was having so much fun abusing the arty bug in skirmish vs 4 CPUs
The scout teleport thing is so much fun. It even works on heavy weapons (mortar, AT-gun, HMG). You can teleport and pick them up in an instant from far away. You lose the scout squad of course since it has 3 members and all are used up to crew the weapon.

[Halftrack]

well, that sounds fun..and definetively sounds like something to fix

well, that sounds fun..and definetively sounds like something to fix

[simanos]

I noticed a weird thing with the ability Counter Battery.
I built an allied howitzer (105) and I killed a few Germans with it to get vet1 and then I used Counter Battery and it started firing on many targets on its own nearly all the time (I noticed it cause it got vet3 pretty fast on its own). Isn't Counter Battery supposed to fire only on enemy artillery when that fires at you? It fired upon enemy artillery when sighted (no need to be fired upon) and it also fired on many other enemy units (but not all), weird.
I built all 4 allowed howitzers and it was great fun ;-)

EDIT: Oh and any ideas on my problem with team colours?

[GunsEmpty]

Is this Ever going to get fixed to 2.6?? I don't think I want to play CoH without this mod.

I might have to switch back to Supreme Commander until this mod is fixed.

[Dreadfire]

Hey this mod was by far the best COH mod

Please please please release at patch to make it work with v2.6 no need to go all fancy and extra TOV features just a little patch to make it 2.6 compatible would be great.

[Slayerknecht]

Take a look at this:
http://botb.fiffa.net/index.php?topic=240.0

[Halftrack]

that does a little, but overall there are many other things to fix,
which I cant get hold of yet... AI doesnt build all the buildings anymore,
maps cause errors , automatic capture doesnt work that good anymore ...
and so on.. unfortunately I am still quite short of time, too.

[simanos]

I have a question about automatic capture. I figured at 25% a territory is considered captured. Time to move to the next. But then I noticed the computer/AI sometimes does something that makes the ammo/fuel icon blue(or red) and increases income, but I can't do that. Is that an AI thing that human players can't do and you couldn't take out from your mod (a feature/bug)?

[Teleon]

Halftrack, why not, for the time being, ditch the automatic capture system? At least in order to get the mod working again... or is that worse than fixing it?

I've told countless friends about your mod. Everyone I know that has COH.. that is literally 13 guys from my reenacting unit and friends, love your mod. We all wish we could play it again.

Is there anything we could do to help get it back up and running. Like even simple stuff? I'm not a complete noob in scripting etc. Just might need a few instructions.

[Halftrack]

@simanos: its a bug, but should be only a visual one, that doesnt affect anything

@Teleon: the ATC/Capture system is the last thing I am fighting with... I wuld have skipped it, if there was a chance that it worked properly without. But it doesnt.

[Teleon]

@Teleon: the ATC/Capture system is the last thing I am fighting with... I wuld have skipped it, if there was a chance that it worked properly without. But it doesnt.

I roger that! Hmmm... Do you know what it is that is wrong with it? I'm sure some of the ppl here have experience working with it.

[Halftrack]

maybe I did not write it down clearly:

There are so many other things which still dont work properly.
I would have already skipped capturing , if the rest worked out. But it doesnt.

[simanos]

@simanos: its a bug, but should be only a visual one, that doesnt affect anything

It seems that it does. In a 4v4 map with 5 fuel points I get a max income of 30 at first, but when some of those turn blue the income doubles.

[Slimak81]

Hi , i like this mod very much , but for myself I wanted to increase Light of sight of infantry and armour .
I changed sight_package outer_radius every infantry unit from 35(40) to 60 but actually it worked only with sniper (a single unit in squad ) and german recon team .
For other infantry the LOS appears to stay the same . Could you help with it ?

[burtondrummerNY]

What's wrong with ATC? It's working fine in my mod.

[Warfreak166]

Hey can someone post the hot fix again the last one didn't work win rar said the file was corrupt

[Nintendochamp]

I heard over at the mod's forums that somone managed to get the AI to build some armor with some tweaking. Definately good news.

[GunsEmpty]

This Mod is so much better than any other mod out there. I wish it would get 2.6 compatible.

[ILynch012]

Is there any chance that this mod will be made to be 2.6 compatible? I'm sure this question has been asked before but I am to lazy to scan through the 2,100 comments on here.

[Halftrack]

yes , there is a chance... in fact we just got back to work.

sorry for this long wait, I hope you guys have a little more patience, but I am quite occupied with RL workloads...

The main problem of bringing BotB back to life is the AI.
The damn thing doesnt build any vehicle buildings...
but sweeten will hopefully help me out, as I am a total AI noob.

So what can you guys expect:

1. A release of the Mod for 2.6 in the "as is" Beta state.
Small things have been fixed and added, some of them glitchy, but playable... as an attempt to bring the mod back to life.

- 88mm Flaks will be in emplacements
- Flak 38 Quad buildable for 7th Army tree
- Bofors 40mm buildable for US Infantry tree
- towable guns ( AT and Arty )
- Visible units in Halftracks, able to fight out of the compartment
- some changes to doctrine trees

2. If we regain a player base, we are going to adress all that stuff and make it work properly,
develop the mod further as well as adding proper new vehicle models and animations.

As always no ETA, sorry... BUT a clear "YES, we will!"

[sweeten2213]

Anything for BotB

BTW - I just took a quick look at your files. I see the problem - simple fix

Time consuming to a degree - but simple

[Gamerisin]

heeeeell yeeeeeaaaaaaahhh!!!! finally guys,good to see sweeten will work on the AI,if I can do anything for the mod just say it,tester I mean beta tester,anything you want,omg,I'm so exited to see you're working on this again.

[sweeten2213]

@ Gamer - as per the Soviet policy of war, defectors will be shot

I'm sure anyone from my team will lend a hand if needed

[Gamerisin]

yes,comrade comissar,I will hold the line till' death for the motherland and help with anything I can.

oh,sweeten,btw,I'm uploading the update,so expect the link soon and now while I check other stuff I'm going to eat cause I'm hungry