RELEASE: "Battle of the Bulge" - v 3.5 "Unternehmen Nordwind"

[K. Simon]

Please Point it out. Thanks.

[saukopf]

20000020 Ambush !!
Your team's translation is "Assault!!"

20000026 Call a heavy airstrike on enemy positions. The Focke-Wulffs will automatically attack visible enemies.
This text doesn't mention OKW, ans you added it. But "Focke-Wulff" was not translated.

20000041 Operation Greif Sabotage team
The word "Greif" is translated as pronunciation, but somewhere(20000080 and 20000340) is meaning.

20000047 Operation Stoesser
The word "Stoesser" is not translated. But 20000319 is translated as both pronunciation and meaning.

20000057 A Sherman equipped with T34 Calliope
The word "Calliope" is translated as "Greek Gods", surely Calliope is one of the Greek Gods, but translating as his name or the musical instrument may be better. And 20000294 "Calliope" is translated as musical instrument.

20000092 HEAT Antitank Shot
The word "HEAT" , "High-Explosive Anti-Tank (Projective)" is not translated.

20000095 and 20000096 the German unit "Schwere Panzerjaeger Abt. 519" is not translated.

20000116 2nd Ranger Batallion has only 2 squads available.
This line is missed.

20000139 75mm Pack Howitzer M1
You translated "Howitzer" as "Mortar".

20000200 Herr Obersturmbannfuehrer
"Obersturmbannfuehrer" is translated as "Captain". Surely we can find most of Wehrmacht ranks equal to SS——in fact Obersturmbannfuehrer equals to Oberstleutnant or Lieutenant Colonel——but there is still some differences. The "Oberführer", higher than Standartenführer(or Oberst, or Colonel), lower than Brigadefuhrer(or General major), not equals to any Wehrmacht rank. In fact nowadays in Chinese academe, the SS ranks have rather special translation.

20000339 A squad of pioneers
The word "pioneer" means "sapper" or "engineer", but the translation is "advance guard".

20010027
The info of map Schneeifel. The original text is "9000 US soldiers went to captivity", but your translation is 7000. At the very beginning I translated BOTB, I also thought BOTB team made a mistake, and later I found I was wrong. The U.S.Army lost not only 422nd and 423rd Regiment, but also 589th and 590th Field Artillery Battalion, part of 81st Engineer Battalion, part of 14th Cavalry Group, and some other units. German 66th Korps reported they captured at least 8000, so the number 9000 may be correct.


All of the maps' info are translated as one long sentence without any interpunction, as I'm also Chinese, but it's very hard for me to read or understand.
————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
The different military organisations are mixed up:

20000008 The 3rd army
Your team's translation is "The 3rd Corps".

20000036 Panzerbrigade 150
Your team's translation is "PanzerKompanie 150". But 20000342 is right.

20000321 Schwere Panzerjaeger Abt. 519 Reinforcement
The word "Abt." or "Abteilung", is translated as "battalion", no fault.

20000323 Sturm-Moerser Abteilung 1000
But here "Abteilung" or "Abt.", is translated as "company".

20000348 5th Panzerarmy
Your team's translation is "5th Panzer Legion".

20000352 7th Army
Also "7th Legion"

20000354 6th SS-Panzerarmy
Ok, this time the translation is right.

20010032 Pattons 3rd Army……
Oh, this time the translation is "Pattons 3rd Division".

20010068 …… 6th SS Panzer Army
This place is "6th SS Panzer Legion"


The modern military organisation, from small to large, are Squad — Platoon — Company — Battalion — Regiment/Brigade — Division — Corps — Army — Front(Russia and China)/Heeresgruppe(Germany) and so on……

[Mirage Knight]

"Obersturmbannfuehrer" is translated as "Captain". Surely we can find most of Wehrmacht ranks equal to SS——in fact Obersturmbannfuehrer equals to Oberstleutnant or Lieutenant Colonel——but there is still some differences. The "Oberführer", higher than Standartenführer(or Oberst, or Captain), lower than Brigadefuhrer(or General major), not equals to any Wehrmacht rank. In fact nowadays in Chinese academe, the SS ranks have rather special translation.

The rank of SS-Obersturmbannführer was indeed the equivalent of a U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel or a Oberstleutnant in the regular army or Heer. For the Waffen-SS equivalent of a Captain, that would be an SS-Hauptsturmführer with the Heer equivalent being a Hauptmann. An Oberst or SS-Standartenführer was equivalent to a Colonel. Generalmajor was the Heer equivalent of a Major General. The title of Oberführer was largely regarded as being a senior colonel rank or akin to a British Army Brigadier-General.

The Waffen-SS had no equivalent ranks for Stabsgefreiter (Staff Lance Corporal) or Fähnrich (Officer Candidate) - not like you'd really need that I'd think

Edit: If it helps any, I came across this rather nifty list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_o..._the_Waffen-SS

[saukopf]

Thanks Mirage Knight, I found my error .
I also have another Chinese wiki show me the ranks in different army, http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-cn/%E5%86%9B%E8%A1%94
AFAIK:
Oberst-Gruppenfuhrer —— Generaloberst
Obergruppenfuhrer —— General der……
Gruppenfuhrer —— Generalleutnant
Brigadefuhrer —— General major

Oberführer —— N/A
Standartenführer —— Oberst
Obersturmbannführer —— Oberstleutnant
Sturmbannführer —— Major

Hauptsturmführer —— Hauptmann
Obersturmführer —— Oberleutnant
Untersturmführer —— Leutnant

In general we can use Wehrmacht ranks instead of SS ranks, for easily remember and identify, but translate them as Allied or some other armys ranks may be inapposite. "Waffen-SS Brigadier", sounds funny. Different army has different ranks, in Chinese Army, the rank equals to Brigadier is "Senior Colonel", but we never translate Brigadier as "Senior Colonel", that is "Chinglish". And "General der ……" depends on different arms:General der Panzer, General der Infanterie……but in PLA, there is only "General 2nd Class", no matter which arm. Should we translate "General der ……" as "General 2nd Class"? Surely no. Just follow the meaning to describe the ranks well and truly.

[K. Simon]

Thanks. I will correct them asap.

[Halftrack]

dont waste too much much time with the 2.7 ucs.
I have still some minor stuff to edit.As soon as the 3.0 ucs is finalized, I will put it online.

[[]inveigle[]]

^^^ Great news, thank you.

[matt57]

Hi, just a question : do you plan to add the sd kfz 251/17 ausf D when this half track will be available?

[Halftrack]

I guess so. But that will have to wait, as the next version is at the doorstep and closed for new recruits.

[Halftrack]

The new guys on parade.

Featuring (almost all ) new units and/or new Skins which you will encounter in the upcoming version 3.0 of BotB.
Which is VERY upcoming, release will be during the next days. But thats only the vehicles. New infantry units and skins, new abilities,
expanded doctrine trees , enforced infantry combat, 4 new maps, better winter conditions for all default CoH maps, AI optimization,
new game modes like infantry only and also alternatively classical vcoh flag capturing, troop surrendering ,
spanish, french and chinese text and a lot of fixed bugs will intensify your battles in the dense forests of Belgium and Luxemburg for sure.

[Dartborne]

good news. I can't wait!

[escforreality]

Great work! I'll be re-downloading this in the next few days it seems Can't wait.

[Savage Noble]

BotB 3.0, CoH: Modern Combat....we are very spoiled this March!

[yurek]

It just looks absolutely awesome... can't wait.

[Halftrack]

[Savage Noble]

Halftrack! You shouldn't have!

[ChickenNuggets]

Superb job, Halftrack. I just played a game and it was amazing! The most fun I've ever had against the AI.

[nemo]

AMAZING stuff, totally AMAZING! Congrats HT

[-250 wh div-]

The american scouts are overpowered, in open field one scout unit against 1 volks squad and 1 kubelwagen and won the scouts, wtf.

[chimie]

Everytime I get a troop surrendered event on multiplayer I am getting a fatal scar error.

[-250 wh div-]

When try load a saved game give me "fatal ai error"

[paradamed]

Thanks for this release, HT. I liked to have the option to have the classical capture point system. Sometimes I woudlnt really know if I controlled the territory or not.

[saukopf]

HT:
I have played some games last night, and I found that the botb background music comes with vCOH's together, I think maybe the reason is:

[data:sound_low]
folder = BotB\DataSoundLow
archive.01 = BotB\Archives\BotBSoundHigh
archive.02 = WW2\Archives\WW2SoundLow

[data:sound_high]
folder = BotB\DataSoundHigh
archive.01 = BotB\Archives\BotBSoundHigh
archive.02 = WW2\Archives\WW2SoundHigh

[XAMOT]

Nice release Halftrack, love the pic with both axis and allies having a drink around the fire before the war resumes, nice touch ahahaha

Didn't have many issues with the exception of:
1) the infantry gun, the German Paras 75mm. It must have had some sort of fire effect for "auto" fire didn't it ? Wheeled it up behind the lines and it just sits there.

2) I chose "elimination no limit" as my rig handles it and I like big battles, but then I could not make stuff because everything had a cap. Sort of redundant to have an "unlimited" option and then put a number restrictions on the units.

[Celution]

Grats on the release, HT, great stuff.

[Thiky83]

Great job Halftrack!
This mod is awesome!!

[SlipSon]

anyone up for a game ?

[Halftrack]

seems like only a few WW2 veterans return to the frozen battlegrounds, while the others play with the new toys.

For everyone who suffers fatal scar errors especially on Multiplayer:
I have uploaded a quickfix, which completely deactivates the Surrender Script.

http://botb.fiffa.net/index.php?topic=9834.0

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[Savage Noble]

seems like only a few WW2 veterans return to the frozen battlegrounds, while the others play with the new toys.

Halftrack, for what its worth, your mod is by far the most complete mod this community has ever seen, and also holds the best balance of historical accuracy and pure fun I have ever had out of any mod for any game. If you ask me, BotB is the father of all CoH total conversions.

[ChickenNuggets]

I second that

[bangalor44]

I third that.Well said FeldMarshalPF

[ds_vet9091]

Execellent Mod. Love the skins and the AI changes are pretty good, can be really challenging with the right map. Skins are great too. Keep up the good work.

[DrCh]

Medic station Wermaht:

[Coupe]

Halftrack, thank you so much for all the hard work you have put into this great mod. A question though. I'm patched to the latest one, and had no problem with the download.
But I don't see how to build armored units. I know you need an an armory but one does not come up. Also when I earn the chance to build an a unit like a Jadgpanther the small box does not
come up to be able to build one. I played the heck out of your last mod but I must be doing and or not seeing something in this one.
A little advice please.

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I figured it out, what a dummy I am. I'm going to hide out in a foxhole. Thanks again for all the hard work.
Coupe

[Instago]

I'm having a problem with BotB crashing. I can start the mod, and I can go into set up a skirmish game, and it even loads all the way through. But when I click when prompted to enter the game, it crashes. :[

Any ideas of how to get it to work? I've tried lowering my settings.

[Halftrack]

@Coupe: You selected the "Infantry Only" Mode, didnt you ? ^^

@Instago: lowering the settings would have been my first proposal, but normally, if that is the case, the game hangs up while loading a map.
On first sight... have you CoH,OF and ToV installed and patched to the latest version of CoH ?

[Instago]

Yes, I have the steam version so everything has been updated automatically.

Also, I managed to get into the game by lowering *all* settings to their lowest value. But it crashed within a minute anyway. :[

[Coupe]

Yes I did, wasn't paying attention, sorry.

[Halftrack]

oh, that can happen.^^there are quite a few new uncommon modes now.

@Instago: But 2.7 was running ok for you? Then maybe try this: -->surrender quickfix<--
Otherwise I have no idea than reinstalling.

[Instago]

Hi Halftrack, I got the mod to work with your fix and reinstalling CoH and OF. But I just got a crash in the middle of a game. And another about 10 minutes into a game. Should I just try lowering settings further?

[DrCh]

Mod good, but balance shit, rubbish! Sturmtiger very much shoots not neatly. Entrenchments build restrictedly armies.

The shooting sound mg taken of blitzkrieg - cuts on ears!!! Europe at War v6.1.4 the balance is better!

[Halftrack]

how much I love constructive criticism.

[matt57]

Hi, 3.0 is an excellent version, better than 2.7, and i thank you for that. But in my opinion i find it's a few a pity that halftracks (m3 and sd kfz 251/1) and vehicles like jeep or kubelwagen do so few damage against infantry...i know their role is not really to kill but it is the recognition (and/or) transport...however, i can't bear that a sd kfz 251/1 only kill 1 soldier after a long fight with an mg34... I don't want these vehicles to be as good as mg gunners but at least better than riflemen (or volksgrenadiers). Moreover i have found a problem with icons for jeeps and for the sabotage squad of greif operation when the are unlocked (not in the tree). And when i play with germans, i find AI very slow to build tanks (even on hard and expert), they often build pumas, halftracks, and sometimes tanks but in the very late game whereas the us has already used tanks for a while...(and there is no lack at all of ressources).

Thank you in advance for your answer

[Halftrack]

whats the problem with the icons? is it possible that they are red? i really wonder what causes that effect.

abot the MG damage of jeeps / halftracks: you are right, their job is different. Its scouting and transport. On the other hand, an MG is an MG.
But according to that, tank MGs also need to be stronger.
I already buffed suppression recently, so they give better support, but they both might be slightly more effective.

about the AI...that mostly depends on the map, I think. Most times I didnt have problems with the AI building tanks.

[DMz]

For me its sort of killed playing the mod, although the surrender stuff is nice ect, all the other modes and beefed command trees ect have just taken away the classic feel the mod had before. Plus even on a 4 v 4 large map i never had graphic lag before, until this version. Nice but i think overdone, just seems to have too much now where as before it was just fun to play, now it become a chore.

[Halftrack]

If you guys wouldnt have released so many new models...
Kidding. I was afraid of that effect, honestly. But you cant serve anyone well.
Many people asked for an Infantry-only mode, enhanced commader trees and a lot cried for the old vCoH capture system.
And you might know how it feels, if you are rolling... I could do this, and that...and how about this.... you keep on going.

[GreenGriffon]

I think Version 3 is terrific, Halftrack. Really top-notch work.

I would however like to see the sight ranges extended a bit, for infantry at least. The radius is way too small, which makes the game unnecessarily restrictive (and rather unfair) since the AI doesn't appear to obey LOS rules. The sight ranges of scouting units should be adjusted upward accordingly, of course.

I agree with making tank MG's slightly more deadly. I can't tell you how aggravating it is to see a single flame pioneer come strolling up to the front of my tank and flame it, destroying the engine, with no hope of stopping them. That's already happened to me at least a dozen times.

Keep up the great work.

GG

[firefish]

Great work!

Just a minor thing... It seems that the projectile of the Sturmpanzer IV's 15cm is missing. No tracing and no damage - just an explosion...

I put in a version of another mod and now it works fine...

[GreenGriffon]

Oh, another oddity.....the projectile speed of the M18 Hellcat seems really slow. When it fires, there's a very noticeable delay between the muzzle flash and the shell impact.

[bangalor44]

I would'nt worry so much what people say .Your work is excellent always has been they scream like little girls.Noone has done what you have have done.If so show me your work or stay silent .You sir have an awesome talent .Dont give in to the dingbat's for they are many.I for 1 am glad to know you.For me I haven'nt seen any better ww2 combat game mod on any level.and I've been doing this a long long time.If you don't think there all crazy check out mc look at the problems .I for one admire your work to me it's awesome.You can't make everyone happy .Do your work which is amazing and the chips will fall.And I for one will be glad to see your next effort sir.