KhorneWorldEaters; vocal ideas

[horusheretic]

Khorne Berzerkers don't use regular bolters though, they preffer Bolt pistols and they generally only use them to pistol whip the enemy because they're too crazed to shoot properly

even so, if thats a pistol it still doesnt look like one and it has the bolter "grip" underneath the barrel. it would still be a bit thin and a bit to long to be useful in a combat scenario where he would be beating people by pistol whipping them in the face.

[Catwell]

ok ill field this one,
that khorne world eater marine is brandishing a bolter, ill have to check with the original bolter model to if its the correct size, an easy fix none the less.
khorne berserkers do use bolt pistols, indeed. but the image in question isn't a khorne berserker

[overmind]

Aren't all world eaters beserkers?

I'm postive it says that somewhere in the codex.

[ChaosReigns]

Awesome Bloodletters Catwell! They're pretty damn scary! Very Khornate!

[Ark]

Now I'm no expert on chaos but not all World Eaters are berserkers. I was under the impression that they could use terminators so that makes sense.
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Keep in mind I don't know much of tabletop rules.

[IcyPenguin]

Awesome job. They look VERY demonic.
I like the style of their legs -- the joints and such remind me of things like Protoss from Starcraft or the Elites from the Halo series.

[Lleman]

but the image in question isn't a khorne berserker

After looking again at the unit tree, is that then a KWE CSM? So, would this CSM be the bulk unit of your mod? (would be the generic World Eater marine follower of Angron & Khorne but not fallen into the Berzerker Cult to the max )
If that's so then given the very high quality of a 'mere' CSM, when you decide to replace the Relic Berzerker i can't imagine how embellished and worked the armour texture will be...

[Ghost Down]

This mod is gonna be so frickin awesome!

[Catwell]

ok i think ive been a little cryptic, let me explain.
this kwe mod is based off of the khorne army from a long time ago (1990s), not the current codex's. when kwe was more of a chapter (like sm chapters) than just one unique unit available to to a undivided army as they pretty much are now.
alot of the kwe chapter has been removed in later army lists, things like assault marines, blood slaughterers , kwe csm, kwe renegades, kwe heavy weapon renegades, demon gifted kwe. all thats gone now leaving a bit of a empty shell. so this mod will revive some of these things, un nerf the bloodthirster , and re introduce old forgotten kwe epic units too, its a resurection of the world eaters legion as it should be

[haloelite52]

is there a online codex of the WE cause i wanna see them in the old days.

[Lleman]

Just outta curiosity (and bordering on the offtopicness too ) Catwell, is it the WE army list from 'Slaves to Darkness' ?

[Catwell]

nah its not, i just put in what was cool and would work well. btw beserkers are on the way and bloodletters now have more anims

also dark elf where are you?

[BennyK]

An idea on underlying Khornate/KWE mindset:

Seems to me that their mindset would revolve around trying to outdo one-another, to individually achieve the most 'kills' and carnage for the Blood God. More competitive, less 'stacks on'.

Make the commander unable to join squads (change his squad bonuses to auras), and reduce berserkers into more, smaller, squads. If, for example, berserkers were to be 4-8 men and 2 cap, then split down to 2-4 men and 1 cap per squad...
This would make squads more vulnerable to being to being wiped-out, and hence require more production and replacements to throw into the grinder (much to Khorne's pleasure ). But hey, no one said being a berserk was easy (or sensible, or an effective use of resources...).
On the other hand, the same resources worth of troops would be more flexible, better able to deal with 'dancing', and tend to spread the carnage and mayhem over a larger front or area. And just (to me) better catch the feeling and help set them apart from 'regular Chaos'.

[ChaosReigns]

How many of the old style units you listed will be included Catwell?

Also, what's a Blood Slaughterer?

[Catwell]

hmm ive all ready posted an army list on this thread,

a blood slaughterer is a weird machine like a dread for kwe, its not in this mod

[ChaosReigns]

Heh, I forgot about the unit list...

*goes back to look at list*

Alright, I know what to expect.

EDIT: Who or what is Angrave? A BT lord perhaps?

[Visitor13]

It's the name of that killer rabbit from Monty Python, figures it'd be Khorne's personal bunny.

Sorry CR, just being random.

[ChaosReigns]

Any news?

[Catwell]

an ggrave is the bt
a big epic scale bt no less, btw if you want to see a berserker render speak now and ill post it, hows that for participation little drunk btw

[Steve08]

Berserker pics please? :P

[ChaosReigns]

Please post Berzerker render(s) Catwell.

[Catwell]

drunk lee complies
heres are berserker, a little rem of the csm but there close so why not. dual chain axed murder machines with pistol mitt. i wanted the bskr to be a little diff to the relic berserker, as it appears quite late in the tree and has to be differentiated from the kwe csm, who have chain swords.

[ChaosReigns]

Oh dear (Blood) God!

Incredible as always! Awesome work!

[Kou Uraki]

JESUS!! That is just godlike work right there, Catwell!!!! I tip my hat to you, my friend!!

[Steve08]

Sweet Blood God!

The only thing I think is a bit unfluffy is the storm bolter on the wrist, but creativity is always nice.

(Even though it'd be cooler to pistol whip somebody to death... >_> <_<)

[compiler]

Wow !

Magnificent work !!

[fuggles]

Man... that face scares me.... awesome job Catwell!

[Lleman]

/me piles little rodents skulls in a shrine for Catwell (one's gotta begin humbly )
This Berzerker is awesome catwell... THIS is a true Khornate frenzon-crazed warrior now. Love the helmet faceplate, looks very much like the 'skull' helmet in the CSM sprue. Also, very nice metallic render for the brass shoulderpads and backpack exhausts. Now, that's a killer with style!

[mdcertainty]

Yeah, thats what i would call a true berserker. Catwell. your skill is supernatural thanks for showing this one to us.

[WiegrafFolles]

Wow great work, I can definitely see this guy collecting heads for Khorne!

[prezo]

WHY havent i been looking at this thread before i jsut read the lot and your work is awsome (6 hotdogs)

*slaughters random people in praise to catwel and the blood god*

im gona keep an eye on this catwel

p.s. nice titan and can i buy one of those bikes?

[shrp]

amazing berzerker

[Catwell]

hi guys, im glad you all like the 'zerker. there are some other heads to go with it too. oh btw thats not a storm bolter its just 2 bolt pistols attached to the glove, the stats aren't as good as a storm bolter.
news; kwe termis are partially in, the blood letters are quite polished now too.

[nuriel_xavier]

the termis are partially in? i guess so... who told you that?

[Catwell]

i was referring to em being just in game, before the OE magic you've just performed on em.
edit
right, now the termis are semi working which is great, any one know of a good fx tut?

[holyknight]

holy shitzowiz! This is truly awesome!!!
Nice work on this mod! Can't wait for it to become Beta.

[ChaosReigns]

Is there any chance that you guys might release a "combined" pack when both this and Emperor's Children are released so that the two ancient enemies can do battle?

[Steve08]

Oh, 2 bolt pistols together is an interesting concept... evens out to maybe the equal of a normal bolter. Still pretty good!

[Catwell]

er no combined pack, as ec is the combi of craftworlds, but im sure me and shin ill make em compatible with each other. somehow....

[Catwell]

heres a teaser

[Red Hessian]

those are freaky and sweet at the same time

[haloelite52]

hey catwell i'm getting buggy voices so you might want someone else too if i cant fix it just to let you know. Nice models and textures by the way.

[Steve08]

Those Bloodletters capture the daemonic feel perfectly, much better than sunburned bodybuilders.

I also like the Khorne Terminators in the background.

[chenxihao]

Who/what is Anggrave? Are there any fluff links out there regarding it?

[Steve08]

Catwell said earlier Angrave is the BT lord, about a page or two back.

Not sure if its fluffy or if he thought it up himself.

[spartan_x]

my godness I culdn't evin imagine that kind of detail level achieved with the dow engine..

deffinetley the highest score on artistic impression

I like the old style blooodletters -they look genuinley demonic-
and really look forward for the other old khorne stuff

but I also like the new goatlike bloodletters from GW sice they capture the essence of Khorne better, allthough the concept is pretty unimaginative...(tall broad muscular goat-headed giant axe wileding, humanoids)

still could you include also a VARIATION of the new bloodletters(not a translation of the standard GW model) as an alternative?

[compiler]

Very impressive models. An impressive leaps too. Must have been a bear to animate.
As for the colour, I understand the rationale of making them pink, but may be they could be a little more red, to better reflect the thirsty one's colours ?
Just some nitpicking.
Excellent work. I'm dying to see those in action.

[Jinxter78]

Is it just me, or are anyone else getting hungry when looking at those Blodletters? Bacon! mmm

[Catwell]

lol indeed, i may have to redden the bls a tad in places, its hard to highlight red without it becoming pink. might have to make em glossy with shine for hilights.
might work, might not.

an ngrave is a big epic bt, as all bts really are characers and have names. no two are alike really

[compiler]

For red, I'm making shadows in deep red/brown and the highlights in somewhat desaturated red-orange instead of white.
Don't know if it will work for your model, though.
Oh, and ^please check your PM box.