Patch v1.77 (2.77?) Changelog 9/20/2007

[Cobra5]

That one little hut right in the middile of Rails and Metal- by that fuel point, which used to be high, but is now low.

Not the tiny little square brick building, but the small wooden shed thing right there next to the fuel point. I'll take a screenshot if you need it.

Anyway, when I tried to summon Falls out of it (it was in my LOS, and unoccupied) the building blinked when I clicked on it (The way anything else would blink if you order an ability cast on it) but the Falls walked in form off-map anyway.

This was only one try, maybe I did it wrong... I'll try again a few more times.

[TankHunter678]

I believe you can only call the falls out of structures that have enough slots in the building for all of them. When they come out it is like they are ungarrisoning the structure, the ability just spawns them in the structure then hits unload. So it probably would not work on a 3 slot shed anyways.

[BoDyBaG2224]

^^ Yeah that sounds right.

[fldash]

Some more good changes in v1.69. It's nice to see the fixes to the damage tables for certain weapons...

[Frosty]

If they didn't screw it up, then

- Pioneer veterancy moved to support veteran choice.

and

- Pioneers have a received damage modifier when massed.

will pretty much mean the end of pioneer spam.

[th15]

Is that extra damage taken when massed? Anyone know how much?

[Sprinkles]

Lol, that pio nerf is hilarious. Makes sense though because if there just a big ball of guys runnin at you like that your bound to hit one with every shot.

[tuffy!]

Is that extra damage taken when massed?

I'm almost certain that it is. I mean, it was done to avoid pio spam afterall.

[Mac_Bug]

Try getting couple of those brit tanks and fire two canister rounds into a mass infantry group

[ÜberJumper]

I don't get Pioneer spam... they're so expensive! 120 manpower for a 2 man squad? You're bound to lose some of them, and pretty soon you start losing 60manpower each. Why not go with something like volks squads? They're cheaper at 56 manpower per squad member, and the squad lasts longer. Was it for the flamers that people would do piospam? Saving on purchasing anything higher up the tech tree?

[Mac_Bug]

pioneers have better guns though uber

[TankHunter678]

I have seen a pio squad with a bike kill 2 tommies in a squad before. It was rather funny. Bike could not hurt the tommies in cover but the Pios could since they were in close range.

[shiner980]

Pioneers have like zero upkeep, get flamethrowers, massive capping power when moving all over the map, and were upgraded by inf vet that could also apply to stormtroopers, making em easy to mass, cost efficient for capping power, and helping your stormtroopers later.

[CyrusReij]

And with the recent nerfs levied against them we now have
-Not upgraded by Infantry Vet
-Cost double upkeep (6)
-Receive more damage when used en masse

IE. Pio Spam has been kicked in the groin and is hopefully down for the count.

[Hads]

I believe Pio spam may still work, just not in the traditional sense. Will try out the strategy I'm thinking of later.

IE not using veterancy, and going T3 Spam, using pioneers for early map control and later tank support.

[Muad'Dib]

Can someone please post a link to where I can download the stand alone patch while I'm still at work. I want to patch it as quickly as possible because for some reason the in-game patching from my home takes a bit too long. Thanks!

[Painmuffin]

Can someone please post a link to where I can download the stand alone patch while I'm still at work. I want to patch it as quickly as possible because for some reason the in-game patching from my home takes a bit too long. Thanks!

go to file planet. Yah this patch is about 3.5 MB so its no sweat maybe about 20 seconds of downloading on broadband.

[Muad'Dib]

^^
My buddy says that this error comes out when he's downloading "The Patch Failed to Download. Returning to Main Menu" Then in the main menu it says "A patch is required to play". Can a MOD post a link to the stand alone patch? File Planet is late and doesn't have it yet.

[re-con]

Great. So RO patching is still broken?

[Sturmtruppen]

can anyone verify ANY of the changes described on the 2.69 patch?
besides "- Help text not yet updated."

[stumpster]

From gameplay experience I think I can give an affirmative to the AT 'nade change. I had a Tommie squad take two in open cover and not lose a single man.

[Victrix Legio]

I'm not entirely certain what the modifiers looked like prior to this patch, but it appears that butterfly mines do indeed now do the same amount of damage to all infantry types.

[sporty]

Pios still get their vet with the infantry veterancy research. Haven't seen any of the other "changes" in action yet.

[Cobra5]

- Removed incorrect squad AI plan from several tank squads.

What does this mean exactly? Churchills still back up to maximum range when they are firing on a target, sometimes spinning in place and exposing their rear. Haven't checked any others yet...

[EDIT] Nevermind. I just saw the thread about the patch not updating properly.

[anhktepot]

Patch 2.70 just out now. Wehrmacht got some buffs.

[galaga]

Yep, and Brit emplacements are a little less OP. Also, new medkits, and hopefully lobby and broadcasting fixes!

[FiffA]

v2.70 09/07/2007

Online
- Added more logging.
- Fixed broadcasting.
- Fixed several crashes.
- Users should rejoin the last channel they successfully joined.

Gameplay
- Panzer Grenadier AT grenades set to do the same damage vs British Infantry as regular infantry.
- Wehrmacht forces receive a new medkit.
- The basic medkit is available at tier 2 (after researching Escalate to Skirmish) but only functions in friendly territory.
- At tier 4 (Escalate to Battle Phase) they receive a new medkit that can be used anywhere.
- Stukas, V1s, and Nebelwerfers all have improved damage vs British emplacements.
- Nebelwerfers and Stukas set to 1.0 damage vs tp_infantry_soldier.
- Pak 38s and Flak 88s have been moved into the Vehicle Veterancy research at the KampfKraft Center.
- Mortars set to do 1.0 damage vs tp_infantry_soldier target types (Panzer Grenadiers and British Infantry).
- Building critical tuning.
- V1 FOW scatter modifiers reduced.

[tatatank]

good changes. it was funny to see mortars do no damage on direct hits against PE and brit.

[ContractHitman]

game crashing more sinse new patch maybe check it before release it guys.

[Hepina]

I absolutely love the medkit change. Like I said in another thread a few days ago, it required quite a LOT fuel to even get them.

[bananfiend07]

RELIC! You guys are really stepping it up.

THANK YOU!.




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[Tysn]

- Panzer Grenadier AT grenades set to do the same damage vs British Infantry as regular infantry.

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

[Hepina]

.. However the newest patch effects didn't show up when I played a few minutes ago. The medkit icon is grey until Battle Phase (T4).

[Mac_Bug]

1.71 will be coming shortly to actually apply many of these balance changes as per other thread

[TankHunter678]

eta mac?

[Mac_Bug]

Don't ask me, I just work here

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=161182

[TankHunter678]

funny.... mac... I guess your just collecting bugs then. Or you have nothing to do.

[NovaBurn]

Editied Thread title to updated version. From what's been said:

9.07.2007

Hey Everyone,

We'll be releasing patch 2.71 today very shortly, sorry for the crash issue, we're looking into it right now.

This patch will introduce all the past two patches' balance changes that didn't successfully make it in as well as a few more network changes.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

http://forums.relicnews.com/showpost...77&postcount=1

Would this be balance changes that are in the patch notes but didnt make it in, or new ones not in the patch notes?

It will be Balance changes that were listed in the last two patches.

http://forums.relicnews.com/showpost...24&postcount=9

[mbamber]

Could someone translate what this means for me:

- Panzer Grenadier AT grenades set to do the same damage vs British Infantry as regular infantry.

thanks

[Hellraiser]

Basically AT grenades did more or less damage to brit infantry when compared to american infantry. So they changed it that now they deal as much damage to american troops as they do to brits.

[nichtganz]

They still need to fix the J.Panther and the KT. The Free KT is annying in two ways, it's free and it never comes back, if they keep the never return bullcrap mechanic it shoulbe be applied to the Pershing, and Calliope. Or at least the Calliope.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Why? They arn't free.

[nichtganz]

I dont understand how i can only have JP a game and some Arschloch can have as many pershing as he'd like. Really confusing.

[DatonKallandor]

Because he pays for the Pershing and it's weaker. And because it's DIFFERENT.

[TankHunter678]

The King Tiger was a Tank in few numbers, remember this is before the Battle of the Bulge where the Germans spent a lot of time building the King Tiger force needed for its delayment plan. The Jagdpanther was also experimental at that time, which is why you only get 1 per game. They have that few. The Pershing on the other hand did have some good numbers and was easily replaced by the Americans due to their Industrial power.

The Pershing got the nerf it needed, you can have only 1 out at a time. It still costs resources to get and is possible to replace. Since the allies can replace it like whermacht can replace their tigers since they have those in numbers.

[BlackLabel]

The Pershing on the other hand did have some good numbers and was easily replaced by the Americans due to their Industrial power.

Only 2 (TWOOOOOOO) pershings saw action in the european theater...

Link...again Pershing vs. KT...

[TankHunter678]

Historically yes only 2 saw actual combat vs a King Tiger which they killed when one of them shot through the thin bottom armor of the King Tiger, but over 20 Pershings saw action after deployment. The Super Pershing was a new more powerful design.

[Frosty]

Yep. It's not only complete bullshit to give arguments like "The King Tiger was so rare on the battlefield." Especially if the Pershing, which you are comparing it to, saw MUCH less action in the european campaign than the KT. I could as well ask you why the V1 is in the game at all, if it was infact never used as a real military weapon?

[iron_paw]

Hmm, where do I actually get the patches? I don't see them on fileplanet...

[Jeopardia_Ferdy]

start OF...go online...the patches will be downloaded automatically