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    first time seeing this post and i have to say id kill a man or trade all my earthly possesios for your conversions
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    Svart, you are still an amazing artist! This stuff is great! More more more!

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    Do you have the Space Crusade dreadnought? I'd like to see your Nurgle influences on it if you do.

    I just picked one up on Ebay for £3.50! OK, it's missing the right weapon arm, but hey I can just scratchbuild a Nurgly CC arm for it. This should be fun...

    I have one of these with all the bits, including at least four different weapon arms. I've been meaning to do something with it but if there's a weapon in particular you want let me know.

    Loving the minis.

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    Would like to see that Deamon Prince of yours painted (From the Paint Comp.). Well, your whole army so far that you painted up. Anyway, 2 thumbs up for you for a Nurgle Army like this. An army made with soul.

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    I appreciate the offer, Asp, but I'm actually kind of wanting to scratch-build Nurgly arms for it; I found another one, too, and even cheaper. Damn, I love Ebay

    warwolf, I likewise appreciate the cat offer, but I have numbers for several NFC breeders here in the UK now so should be OK.

    He reminds me a bit of the Forgeworld Plague Champion, what with the extended jaw and all. Was that intentional?
    Actually, it was inspired by watching out-takes from 'Lexx'; in the 'Viva Lexx Vegas' episode they have a rotting mummy shambling about killing people, and in one of the out-takes from that his yellowed prosthetic teeth fall out and his jaw slips off somewhat...cue modelling inspiration. Plus, I'm sure I've seen a film somewhere where a zombie or some other kind of undead tries to laugh at someone and their jaw just falls off completely; I can see it in my head but can't place the film at all. Anyone got any ideas what this might be?

    Anyway, here's Plague Champion Khöros, finished:




    I'm pleased with how he's come out; he's not the biggest, most disgusting (wait till you see Volvulus the Bloated...) or scariest-looking of my Plague Champions, but I think he's got some real personality.


    The house-buying process is going very slowly; I've just talked to my solicitor with a view to kicking arses and getting things moving properly, since we're both of the opinion that things are taking longer than they should. Once I'm in and settled, then I should be able to get down to properly channelling my energies into modelling again; plus, since I'll finally have what is indisputably my own space in which I can do whatever the hell I want, I can finally turn my energy to some of the bigger projects I've had in mind for a while. Like full squadrons of armour for a Traitor Guard army, maybe even my own take on a Plaguereaper or a Nurgle Plague Tower... Right now, between the ongoing house situation and adjusting to being back in work (boo!) it's hard to get much done, especially given that most of what little modelling time I seem able to muster at the moment is being used working on non-Nurgle sculpting-improvement stuff.


    I've been getting more and more into the idea of the Traitor Guard army that I did a test piece for a while back. I'm planning a series of characterful vehicle conversions to counts-as for various bits of Guard armour that I'm finding quite inspiring right now; I suspect at some point another epic Nurgly WIP thread may well appear here


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    Hiya, just joined after a few years of lurking. I've gotta say I love your force. You've given me the inspiration to start Painting & Modelling again! Been a long time, I thank you for that

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    The film was Army of Darkness Svart, evil Ash laughs and his jaw pops out.

    That is looking brilliant Svart, your skill with GS is awe inspiring. I get all excited when I see that you have updated your thread. Hopefully the house process gets sorted asap and you can get your nurgle juicies flowing again and start mass producing top notch GS goodies for all of us to drool over.
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    Plus, I´m sure I´ve seen a film somewhere where a zombie or some other kind of undead tries to laugh at someone and their jaw just falls off completely.
    I´m gonna help you out with this one here. I´m sure you are thinking about the movie Evil Dead - Army of Darkness with Bruce Campbell as Evil Ash

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    That's the one! Thanks, it had been driving me nuts

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    "Name's Ash... Housewares."

    As an aside, under the FW Siege of Vraks (Imperial Armour Vol. VII) Nurgle-oriented Renegades 'n' Heretics force, you could field a Traitor Guard army as well as Plague Marines, an Exalted Champion, Plague Ogryns, slews of Mutants and a tide of Zombies. Lots of Nurgly modeling potential there, and you could combine it with your existing foot sloggers and Rhino(s). I'm currently sorting out my accumulated parts for my Nurgle-oriented Renegade Planetary Defense Force right now - I'm unemployed officially again, so I've got some time on my hands.

    The down side would be no standard Chaos Terminators in the book's army list, but it's a great force in execution and a helluva book. Just thought I'd throw that out there for your consideration - assuming you have any hobby time at all and the house thing is coming together.

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    if I could afford the IA books they'd be a regular source of inspiration for me, but right now I'm watching the pennies pretty closely and while those books look very nice they're pretty expensive. That mixed force certainly sounds interesting, though.

    ...assuming you have any hobby time at all...
    Not much right now, since I'm back in work and having to spend a lot of time and energy chasing up the house stuff. Most of what little time I do seem to have right now is taken up with a non-Nurgle improve-my-sculpting project, but I did find time one night to add some Nurgly bits to my Great Unclean One (which had been sitting around assembled but not doing anything for months):


    I needed to get him at least basecoated to count as a Daemon Prince in a 1K game I was having, so I extended the guts and torn flesh at the bottom of his belly until they drag along the ground (as so many fluff descriptions of GUOs describe them as doing). A few months back I managed to pick up on Ebay some of the vintage Nurglings that are flipping you off with their middle finger extended, and I'm sorely tempted to perch one of those on the GUO's left shoulder just for comedy value.

    ...and the house thing is coming together.
    *sigh*
    Actually it's a total stress-fest right now. I STILL don't have a completion date and am consumed with worry and stress about it right now, as I can't organise or arrange anything until I know when I'm moving; everything feels so up in the air, and the sheer stress of it all is making it very difficult to concentrate on any modelling stuff at all right now. It's a bloody nightmare, and I think it's absoutely ridiculous that my house-buying process has been dragged out for so long by the other side. I'm worried and stressed and angry at being messed about like this; I could really do with something nice happening to me soon because right now life is just one huge minefield of the aforementioned worry and stress.


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    Looking good so far Svart, I like the additions of the GS flaps of skin and tubes hanging out his lower half. Looks a lot better to me, I'm a little surprised we havent seen this chap pop up sooner than this. Don't get me worng the Death Guard are the staple of all Nurgle armies, but the GUO screams Nurgle louder than anything else to me.

    Have you ever considered GS your own GUO from scratch? Looking through this beast of a WIP thread I'd love to see your take on the GUO. Saying that you've left us all wanting more with the Giant / demon prince / mass GS project, is he still on going? (i forgot the name you gave him)

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    Svart.. I was actually wondering if you are planning of making a Nurgle Daemon army to broaden your already impressive abominations?
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    Have you ever considered GS your own GUO from scratch?
    Definitely, and at some point I intend to sculpt a GUO based on the one from the black and white drawing in the front pages of the Chaos Daemons codex.

    ...is he still on going?
    Lord Borborygmus will indeed get finished...at some point. Nurgle alone knows when that point will be, though.


    I was actually wondering if you are planning of making a Nurgle Daemon army...
    Definitely. I'm thinking in terms of a 1.5K or 2K all-Nurgle Daemons army; the GUO I posted shots of above will work alongside the scratch-built GUO based on the Codex illustration I mentioned as a pair of Daemon princes for the Heavy Support choices for that army. I already have Epidemius sat in a box on my shelf waiting to get assembled, and I'll have to give some thought as to hwo I want to do Ku'Gath...Right now, though, I'm finding the idea of the Traitor Guard army more directly inspiring - not least because I want to try my hand at some vehicle conversions.


    House stress aside, one nice thing did happen this week - a guy in work said he had 'an old game with some figures or something' which he'd asked if I might want, 'cos it had just been sitting in his attic for years. Turns out it was an old Space Crusade box, including two complete SC Dreads and several spare weapon arms for same, at least two Tarantula weapons platforms and more than a few old Marines with lots of spare weapons, almost all mint with no paint or anything. There's even some really old-school Orks and what I think are Goblins of some sort...

    So now I have four Space Crusade Dreadnoughts:

    ...and a ton of old-school figures waiting to join the ranks of Nurgle's finest.




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    Nurgle has surely blessed you with this find !!! lol

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    Well, having had pretty much a stressful day from hell yesterday, I was in the mood for some retail therapy; so this afternoon, having just had lunch at Bugman's Bar, I went and treated myself to Imperial Armour: Apocalypse I + II.

    I am having...ideas...[insert 'Doktor Von Svartmetall planning nefarious things in his dungeon' smily]

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    Mwarharharharharhar Can't wait to see what you manage to cook up in Grandpa Nurgle's Oven with these puppies!

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    Mwarharharharharhar Can't wait to see what you manage to cook up in Grandpa Nurgle's Oven with these puppies!
    Ah, the mental image of Greatfather Nurgle in a pink and yellow flowery apron (or, you know, one of those provocative ones with naked bodies on them) running around the kitchen with trays of nurglings and big fluffy oven mitts... I bet he's actually a quite nice guy if you can get to know him.

    Sorry to hear about the house situation, Svart, The Greatfather must be testing your loyalty to his cause with these accursed tasks, and it seems his choice of champion was great, as your alliegance is still strong. Everything is looking amazing, and like Systm, I also await the nurgle-y outcome of those dreads!
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    OK, so...I got the keys to my new house on Friday .

    I spent most of today using a van to get a ton of my stuff over to there from here - I must give a big shout out here to LastOption for help above and beyond the call of duty with this. In theory my shiny 20Meg cable connection gets installed and hooked up on Wednesday but you can never be sure with these things...so for now I shall just say thanks to all of you for your support and encouragement during the last few hellish months, and that I shall be back posting here again as soon as I can

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    Best of luck with the new place, the internet connection, the moving and all the other things that happens when you're moving. We'll be waiting for your gloriuos, yet puss-ridden return!


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    Well, well, well...here I am posting from the crypts of Schlöss Svartmetall

    Life has been ridiculously hectic these last few weeks, between moving in and trying to sort the whole place out by myself, finally getting back to my full working hours again post-depression and also a quick visit from one of Father Nurgle's 'gifts' which had me largely horizontal for a few days...but I made it. I'm in my own house, I'm making good progress on the getting-things-sorted list, the internet connection here is really fast and today I got round to organising and sorting out the house's box room, which has been earmarked from the beginning as the modelling room.

    The view from the battlements:


    Two things I found on Ebay which will become BIG models later this year:


    And I had apparently amassed more Warhammer and other models than I'd realised; you don't realise till you sort them all into one place...


    You can just see the Guitar Room through the far doorway...

    So. I'm still kind of exhausted, but getting settled into the routine of life in my own house decently enough. Modelling will recommence in the next day or two


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    Love the "snivelling loyalist weakling bits" box that made me laugh. Nice you have a whole room dedicated to the art of Nurgle Svart. Wish I could take over a room and make it my own "40k room". Looking forward to what you're going to do with those two tanks. Additions to your traitor guard army?

    Ohhhh Space Crusade, ahh the joys of playing that when I was a wee lad. Ahh the memories.

    Who is the little green stuff guy in the window of your first photo Svart?

    I think you need to get yourself a bigger desk mate, don't think that will stand up very well under the weight of work your going to be doing.

    Glad your getting everything sorted again Svart, now get back to work and start producing the Nurgle goodness we all love to see grace these pages.
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    Who is the little green stuff guy in the window of your first photo Svart?
    It's the Guardian Dryad I sculpted last year. You know how plants need the light and all...

    Looking forward to what you're going to do with those two tanks. Additions to your Traitor Guard army?
    ...might be
    Indeed, I'm planning to make them up as Dark Ordinatus pieces; with the giant railway gun, in particular, I'm thinking of something along the lines of an Apocalypse battlefield centrepiece or something. I have this mental picture of a giant, superheavy cannon firing shells filled with infectious toxic fluids over the walls of a besieged city; I might even work up a datasheet for it at some point.


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    Hey, I joined this forum recently due to the dawn of war information available but I used to collect fantasy Nurgle a few years back. What you have done is outstanding, making each mini have it's own personality and feel.

    Very well done sir, very well done indeed.

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    Modelling time is still harder to come by than I would like - although the house is settling down a bit now - and most of that is currently being spent on non-Nurgle 'improve my sculpting' stuff...but I have found time in between everything else to do some work on Volvulus the Bloated, the next Plague Champion I wanted to work on.

    Here's the original concept sketch I rustled up a while back in Bugman's Bar over a pint:


    And here's how Volvulus' WIP torso is looking now:

    I'm kind of pleased with how he's looking so far; I wanted it to look as though his bloated flesh was cracking the armour as it expanded, oozing out and spilling over his legs. In the flesh, as it were, the actual model looks quite unpleasant even at this early stage




    I need to concentrate on getting the non-Nurgle stuff completed before much else can happen with Pandemic, but rest assured as soon as I have stuff it'll be turning up here. Likewise, as soon as it's feasible I'll be opening up the WIP thread for the Traitor Guard army...

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    Is that Mr Justin distracting you to much with his Secret Weapon stuff? Naughty naughty Mr Justin :P.


    Always a perverse pleasure to see your thread updated Svart. I like the concept sketch you have there. Your skill at drawing is top notch and how you convey the drawing to the model is beyond my own skill -and by miles I might add. Love the spare tyre and over hang this chap has, once again a very very characterful model. Can't wait to see the face you have drawn realised in GS.

    Going to be keeping my eye out for the traitor guard thread. Keep up the good work.

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    Great to see things are settling down and you have some time to model at least!

    Cracked armour is fantastically done, and I'm keen to see what you do with the big guns!
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    Right...

    *cracks knuckles*

    Non-Nurgle improve-my-sculpting work stuff is done and dusted. Time for more horrendous hijinks and cadaverous capers in the realm of Father Nurgle, methinks

    I've done a little more work on the Daemon Prince (renamed 'Yersinis' from the original working title of 'Borborygmus'), namely adding an exposed spine to his back and various 'orrible fleshy bits:

    The current plan is to scratch-build ornate, vaguely Terminator-esque Daemonic plate armour over his arms and legs, and leave his body largely bare flesh, for a nice contrast over the finished model. A Daemon Prince converted from a Giant is always going to be a 'big centrepiece' kind of model anyway, so I figure you may as well go all out and take the time to make something really crazy,.


    I also found, while in the course of continuing to sort and organise the house, something I bought in early 2008 - a Forge World Nurgle dreadnought:

    I added the spiky bits back then, but am now working on making it a tad more individual. I never particularly liked the eyes on the right hull front - they never seemed very Nurgly to me - so I'm replacing them with the classic fly-hive perforated spheres. I'm temopted to replace the FW close-combat arm with a scratch-built 'plague claw' kind of thing; I suspect sketching will probably need to happen before I can decide on anything firm, though.

    So...watch this space. I'm back to full modelling capacity now and firing on all cylinders - the Traitor Guard army WIP thread will be appearing soon, too. You have been warned


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    Wohooooo - good to see you back amongst the tomes of this Nurgle thread Svart. It feels like an age since you posted any of your Nurgle goodies for all of us to drool over. Can't wait to see the Daemon prince when he is complete, the thing is imposing as is, but with your Nurgle extras GS'd onto him. He's going to be one hell of a centre piece.

    What flavour are you going with your traitor guard? Nurgle influenced or Blood pack? I'd be interested to see your take on the Blood Pact grotesques. I've just finished reading The Lost 3rd Gaunts Ghosts Omnibus, I'm all Blood Packed up at the moment.

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    Holy crap, you got even BETTER?! Svartmetall?

    The back of that daemon prince is amazing. From the sketch I initially thought the plague champion would have no legs and sort of hover, which would have been really cool and different also.

    The exposed spine and musculature on that daemon prince is fantastic. You really could do this professionally, some of the best green stuff modelign I've seen.
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    Man. I wish I found Forge World stuff lying around my house.. That demon prince is going to be huge svart, does it need one of those data sheets that they use in apocalypse games? Maybe a sort of small organic titan? =)
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    "What flavour are you going with your traitor guard?"
    Nurgle all the way. I'm having fun rustling up some test models for the diseases and wargear on humans, as opposed to Astartes, and will post them soon in the dedicated WIP thread for the Traitor Guard army. I was going to call the army 'Disciples of Decay' but that felt a little by-the-numbers, name-wise, if that makes sense; I think I'm going to go with 'The Abhorred'.

    I've just re-read 'The Lost' again, and yes, it's excellent; if I were a Khorne fan I'd almost certainly want to go with a Blood Pact theme for a Traitor Guard army. But, me being me, it had to be Nurgle - it gives me a chance to model a different look and feel while staying true to my rotten roots. Plus, I could combine The Abhorred with Pandemic for Apocalypse games for like 5,000 points or more of all-Nurgle, every-model-a-conversion goodness


    "...does it need one of those data sheets that they use in Apocalypse games?"
    Nah, he'll be a standard Daemon Prince; I may at some point work up a datasheet to represent the fluff background I'd like for him.


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    Those are both SO cool! I wish i was that talented with Greenstuff haha. Cant wait to see what else spawns!

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    But, me being me, it had to be Nurgle - it gives me a chance to model a different look and feel while staying true to my rotten roots. Plus, I could combine The Abhorred with Pandemic for Apocalypse games for like 5,000 points or more of all-Nurgle, every-model-a-conversion goodness
    That's kinda my thinking with my Disciples of the Four and the Renegade Guard of The Shriven... except not all Nurgle to give some variety to painting and modeling, for the same reasons you wouldn't want to go all-Khorne. I'm running with a Nurgle Forge World Siege of Vraks VII list for the corrupted IG, though, as I think that best represents The Shriven as presented in Abnett's book. (The IA 7 book's not as good a read as the other two, but list 'n' unit-wise, it's probably my favorite of the three - Mmm, demonic incursion!)


    As to the sculpting, it makes me wish I had more free time and less ennui/apathy/depression - great stuff!

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    The arm on the picture of the Prince's back looks amazing.
    There we were, ready to charge the loyalist scum, and then suddenly we were under fire from our west flank. Batshit mental. We turn to return fire, and somehow they sneaked a bunker in, right next to us! We didn't have any meltas so we got the hell out of there. CREEEEED!

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    Damn. That is just straight up awesome.

    Something I've been wondering for a while is how exactly you get the "coral" texture on the GS, and that stretched look that some of the minis have between their limbs and torso. The coral, I assume it involves a lot of poking really tiny holes, but I can't seem to get it much farther than that.

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    Hey Svart, I've read this whole thread quite a few times now and I love your conversions so much! I have always had an attraction to Nurgle since I started this hobby and have now decided to start my own Nurgle force inspired by your own genuis.

    Just a quick noob-like question I need to ask though: How do you prepare your Greenstuff? I have always wondered how people get such clean cuts on their conversion work with green stuff and whenever I mix some of it it is soft and hard to work with. Do you leave it to harden and then use it? Cheers.

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    "...how exactly you get the "coral" texture on the GS, and that stretched look that some of the minis have between their limbs and torso."
    You're bang on about the 'coral' - I use a small household pin to make tons of tiny holes, and the trick is to keep checking it from different angles and holding it up to the light source to check that it's homogenous and even-looking overall; the even-ness is what makes it work once painted.

    As for the 'stretched look' you mention, stick a couple of pics that show exactly what kind of thing you mean in a post and I'll tell you how I do...er...whatever it is.

    How do you prepare your Greenstuff?
    Carefully.

    Once I've got it to an even colour all over - usually 1-2 minutes' worth of hard kneading - I spread it flat over a fingertip and remove any unmixed bits of the yellow component with a scalpel to make sure that what ends up on the model is lump-free.

    Do you leave it to harden and then use it?
    Part of the trick with GS is to know how hardened it needs to be for the tools you have to produce the desired effect; some things are best done as soon as the GS is applied, when it's till at its softest, and some things work better when it's cured for a while. It's really a matter of practice and 'feel', which I know is kind of vague as answers go but the most accurate one I can give...

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    http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...02#post3281702

    It's the GS that you have in the Reaper Autocannon Termie's 'armpits'

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    While working on the Forge World Dreadnought over the last few days I've solidified in my head one approach to armour I'd like to use quite a bit on Nurgle vehicles; it's based around the idea of acromegaly, a condition where the pituitary gland never sends a 'stop growing' signal to a part of the body. People with giantism are prone to it, since giantism itself is a closely related condition (in the course of researching source material for The Abhorred, I've been reading up on diseases and stuff) and since Nurgle has always been as much about growth as about decay to me - albeit growth in the sense of tumours and the like as opposed to anything healthy - this was a natural way to incorporate extending things on Nurgle models.

    Yeah, I know..I think about things too much.

    So I figure it's logical to have something like acromegaly affecting armour on Nurgle-dedicated things, especially anything Possessed or something like a Dreadnought which I've always thought of more as a sort of super-Terminator than a vehicle. On the FW Dreadnought, I've used this to extend edges of the armour to try and convey the idea that it's still growing:



    I hasten to add that the frontal armour plate between his legs isn't finished yet, I need to add another strip in there and I'm debating adding some lengths of chain to that armour piece too.



    With careful matching of surfaces and details it should hopefully be a seamless join once painted up, making the model both more individual and more Nurgly. It's actually quite subtle when you look at the model as a whole, but will make a real difference on the finished entity; I'm now looking at developing and extending this idea on the Vindicator and Defiler that are on my things-to-make list. The Defiler in particular should be fun, since I have a pretty strong idea of how I want to do that one to make it look really distinctive - ideas which should also work on any potential Soul Grinder, too, should I ever end up making a Nurgle Daemons army...


    And here's a Plague Marine I've been working on, trying to nail the blend of extended armour in with buboes and torn flesh. I feel like I've finally managed to properly get the hang of the 'flesh oozing through armour' look on this guy's shoulderpad (took me long enough):



    I think with figures like him I'm starting to get a properly distinctive look to my Nurgle troops, one that's unified across the army as a whole but that still allows a lot of room for individual variation on models. And, with everything I've added to my arsenal of sculpting & conversion tricks over the last 6-9 months or so, I can't wait to start on the next batch of Plague Terminators

    More, as always, as soon as I have it.


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    Congrats Svart, you have officially added a level to your nurgle status in my opinion. Too many people make nurgle as tentacles and blobs of GS poked with a pin. I applaud you for thinking things through and actually having a plan behind what you are doing.

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    With careful matching of surfaces and details it should hopefully be a seamless join once painted up, making the model both more individual and more Nurgly ... I think with figures like him I'm starting to get a properly distinctive look to my Nurgle troops, one that's unified across the army as a whole but that still allows a lot of room for individual variation on models.
    I've always thought your stuff has had a very distinctive style, what with the certain themes you've been carrying out on the models all along. It does look like you're doing much better at distinguishing different materials and textures growing out of your guys while making sure that they do blend in seamlessly with the rest of the figure - that's progressively gotten better in the thread and is now resulting in pure win.

    It's not just coral texture and stretchy bits any more, and the added armor and rotting flesh are actually delineated by sharp edges sculpted out from existing figure parts. Woohoo!

    I agree with Vaaish - the newest stuff looks to be bumped up a notch or two from past work. Me likey! Keep up the excellent work!

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    It's not just coral texture and stretchy bits any more...
    See, now you've got me worried that my stuff has sucked up till now and only just gotten decent

    /butseriouslyfolks

    Too many people make nurgle as tentacles and blobs of GS poked with a pin.
    It's long bugged me when I've seen people going 'oh Nurgle is easy to do, it's the one for noobs' (which is an opinion I've seen aired both online and in the flesh) because to my mind anything can be done to a basic level or an advanced level, it's really just a case of how much thought and work you're willing - or wanting - to put into it. My army is more of an art project than anything else to me, so aesthetics dictate pretty much everything; which is I suspect one reason it's taken me a long time to really nail what I'm doing with them. I'm starting to feel a lot more confident in my sculpting abilities now, though, having spent a lot of time and effort on improving them over the last year or so, and so now I'm able to devote my full attention to the Death Guard again I'm feeling like I have a much bigger and better-developed set of tools that I can employ.

    One thing I really do want to work on, by the way, is the paint scheme - I've been growing more and more dissatisfied with the paint scheme I've been using so far, and am looking into comprehensively reworking it all both to better show off the conversion work and also to just be visually richer and more varied. At some point I'll be posting up various ideas for paint schemes and asking for feedback...at some point...

    The feeling of having improved a lot has inevitably led to a desire to re-do some things; I'm my own worst critic, and even last year when the army was going into the display shelves at Warhammer World I felt bad - almost like a fraud somehow - because I knew the work I could do by that point was already better than most of what was going on the shelves in front of my eyes. Similarly, I look at things like Lord Kothaar, Quorthon the Sorceror and Squad Pestis and I know I could do them a lot better now. The danger with that mindset is that you can end up just constantly re-doing everything and never actually making anything new, so while I will almost certainly make a new Kothaar (since the current model was originally only meant to be a Possessed anyway, not one of my HQ models) and will always use the best 7 Plague Marines I have available as Squad Pestis (since they're the elite squad in the fluff so should alway be represented by the best models I have available) I'm going to forge ahead with new Nurgly things and try to keep my self-criticism to a constructive, rather than a restrictive, level.

    I'm really enjoying working on the Dreadnought right now - so much so that it's impacting on the work I was planning on doing towards getting the ball rolling with The Abhorred - and the way that's turning out is making me a lot more confident that I can finally produce the Nurgle Defiler that's been in my head all this time. On a related note that's also making the Daemonically Possessed Vindicator closer to fruition, too; I've always liked the Vindicator model, and have wanted to try a Daemonically Possessed Nurgle vehicle for a while since it would let me just go crazy conversion-wise...and since most if not all army lists I've seen and worked on have suggested that Possession is a good thing to have on a Chaos Vindicator, I think that'll be a lot of fun to stretch out my imagination on.


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    Post originally by Svartmetall

    Yeah, I know..I think about things too much.
    I like the way your mind works. The extensions on those Dreadnought shin plates are indeed quite a subtle effect.

    Also nice bolter-thing on the marine.

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    Lovin' that dread, mate!
    I've yet to make a dread for my own nurgle army, but this inspires me.
    Now I just have to rob a bank to get some money for it...
    It's all your fault

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    "I've yet to make a dread for my own Nurgle army, but this inspires me.
    Now I just have to rob a bank to get some money for it..."
    You could always just Nurglify an AoBR Dread...I've half a mind to make a tutorial on how to do just that, although the Obliterator tutorial will come first.

    "...nice bolter-thing on the Marine"
    It's actually the bog-standard bolter arm off the old plastic Plague Marines from years back, I found some on Ebay ages ago.

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    I have an old Dread laying around somewhere, it's one of the first things I ever painted.
    I was thinking of stripping the paint off it and use GS & WF corpse cart bitz to nurgle it up...
    (But now I have to find some spikes to. I'm shamelessly (spellcheck) stealing that idea. I'll just tell myself that it's inspiration instead of stealing, so I can sleep.)

    Anyway, I thought I might give that a go before I spend money on the FW one...
    And I still have a long way to go on my GS-skills, so it'll be good practice.
    Keep up the good work, I'm looking forward to see that dread finished!

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    Well, in the next day or two a tutorial on how to effectively scratch-build a Nurgle power claw for a Dreadnought will be added to Nurgle 101; I hadn't actually planned to do this one beforehand, it just sort of happened

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