Mk19 DEFINATLEY needs to make an appearence.
Mk19 DEFINATLEY needs to make an appearence.
ya maybe on a hummer or something of the like
May you be touched by his noodle
Don't worry about the Mk.19.
"Not a day goes by, that I don't think of the men I served with, who never got to enjoy the world without war." Major Richard Dick Winters.
good to go.
I've only seen it in an RTS once, and it was portrayed so innacuratley...
Nope, not much. Half of the team is busy with exams. Above all, we're still waiting on the new OE. So no new models yet.
cant wait to watch the A10 cut open tanks like butter
Well, I can't wait until the Blackhawks will fly over, carrying their troops. Or raising hell with the M1A2.
I can't wait to send large formations of infantry armed with ak-47s to sweep through all opposing forces
cant wait to laugh as i see AK-47s do little damage to my soldier's body armour.
Hehe. To be correct, it is the Type 56, not the AK (although it is a clone of the AK)
i knew about the type 56, its just the chinese version of the
Avtomat Kalashnikova 1947
i have an Idea for selectable fire weapons, have an ability called "fully auto fire" that changes the rate of fire to fully auto, make it last around 15 seconds and cost 5 munitions and make fully auto really inaccurate (so to be used at close range only).
Last edited by bwc153; 3rd May 08 at 2:30 PM.
Can't wait to have my troopers win games against soldiers with semi-bullet proof chests and supermen complexes that got shot in the arms, legs, neck or face, or pelvic area by soldiers who took body armor and cover too!cant wait to laugh as i see AK-47s do little damage to my soldier's body armour.
Not only is body armor being issued with the PLA and has been for several years now to my knowledge, but that the Type 56 has been sidelined from front line infantry quite a few years ago AND our ESAPI plates are being produced in china last I heard..be rather foolish to think that they wouldn't use it for themselves should war erupt, if they aren't already, don't you agree?We are using current and very near future equipment for both sides. We are not dwelving into "what could be" but rather "what currently is"
Now granted, it'll be quite a while before *every* chinese soldier has a shiny new rifle, shiny new body armor, and the nifty wireless gun/helmet camera connection for seeing and shooting around corners but that goes for both sides, a modern front line Chinese infantry unit versus an American equivalent is going to be one *Hell* of a fight, not quite:
<China> ZERG RUSH KEKEKEKE ^______^
<USA> LOL MASSIVE SUPPORT ASSETS!
I await the mod with much saliva and teeth chattering, but I hope it doesn't boil down to a massive, and somewhat imaginary gear, support and training advantage on one side and a bunch of screaming idiots with a bare minimum of equipment that was replaced 15-20 years ago on the other
Though it might be fun to have a "Zerg rush" doctrine all the same.....
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I don't think China will replace it's standard assault rifle for two reasons:
1) It would cost a heck of a lot money
2) The Type 56 is a copy of the AK-47 which is a reliable and cheap to maintain weapon.
It DID cost a heck of a lot of money, and will continue to do so. It's not a "they will" or "they might" proposition, it's happened already. The type 81 rifle started replacing the type 56 in front line service in the early 80s, a few years later with the type 87 functioning as a test bed for their then new 5.8mm ammunition to replace ye olde 7.62x39mm and as of 1997 the QBZ-95 family began distribution to the best troops and worked its way down, and as of 2005-2006, most of the front line infantry units have replaced the type 81 with the QBZ 95.
There are still plenty of AKs in the hands of chinese soldiers, but not in the hands of the units sent first to the fight. The US military still has plenty of Vietnam-era M60s floating about...but they (as a rule) get issued to the national guard or kept in storage for example, not the people in the regular army clearing rooms in Iraq.
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American faction is almost finished being coded, basically its touch-ups here and there, Im working on the Chinese faction as I am typing this, models are coming along, though they will take a lot more time.
Ah, that rifle. It was already modelled by someone here in the forum (forgot his name). But the Type 56 could be a nice variation among weapons.
Hmmm. Very nicely coming together. Any plans for some new voiceovers?
Yeah, there is also an SP Howitzer varient
Looking forward to this mod.
Me too, although I would rather than a chinese faction add a Russian Federation one... well, it is your mod, not mine, good luck and keep up the work ^^
Once more victorious... The Red Army stands!!
looks nice im looking forward to playing your mod!
Thanks for all your support.
@threatcon_1: Well, it's probably needed, because Chinese soldiers with a German accent would look weird, don't you think?
@Edruken: If this mod will be a succes, and if you're lucky, maybe some other factions will be added.
US soldiers armoured vest will stop an Ak-47/Type 56's bullet, but if your shot anywhere else, your screwed (including in the helmetCan't wait to have my troopers win games against soldiers with semi-bullet proof chests and supermen complexes that got shot in the arms, legs, neck or face, or pelvic area by soldiers who took body armor and cover too!
fun fact about the US militarys current standard issue helmet:
a Karbiner 1898K (carbine 1898 K), the german rifle of WWII, can penetrate the helmet.
i forgot what PLA means, is it "Peoples Lunatic Army"?PLA
The helmet is in fact penetrated by anything 5.56mm+ and is mostly designed for shrapnel protection.
Amoured vest is not very likely to stop the AK47 round unless its really far. An AK57 round, yes, some times.
The improved 'dragon amour' vests have and will not be accepted mostly on 'financial' grounds
The Kar98 would of course penetrate most combat armour as it has better penetration than any current assault rifle including the G3 I believe
R.I.P MrScruff-A very talented and valued friend who is sorely missed
Why? Every system currently in use by any military isn't designed to be "the best" It's generally the most cost effective, produced by the lowest bidder.
Oh, and the whole k98 thing is just funny.
The reason it will penetrate is because it's a full length rifle round. The only weapons commonly used that fire full rifle calibers at this point are GPMGs and sniper rifles.
Body Armor is designed to protect against the most common threats, which are standard assault rifle calibers. The plate we were equipped with WILL LIKELY stop 1 or 2 rounds from a 7.62,51 or 7.62,54 caliber weapon. However, the best way to not get shot is to have the mobility necessary to take cover after being shot at. Body armor is already extremely heavy and cumbersome, making it more so; so uncommon and antiquated weapons are ineffective against it is pointless.
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i thought that is what it was, i was just making fun of China's military.People's Liberation Army
Cant wait to see 2000 M1a1 Abrahams kill 2500+ tanks while tanking 4 casualties
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I think that this mod seems like an awesome idea
Does the mod need anymore modelers? cause I'd love to help
HELL YEAH!Does the mod need anymore modelers? cause I'd love to help
Sign up at our forums: http://z3.invisionfree.com/CoH_Modern_Combat/ Create an application and show us some of your work. We really need some good skinners and modellers, so if you know any other modeller or skinner which has some talent and is searching to work in a good team and a good environment link them to our forums.
@Infidelicious: It is what it is atm, and the U.S. Army is not planning to change their
armoured vest, so it won't be added in the mod. (i'm sorry to say )
have any of you guys read anything about the new "powered" armor thats in devlopment. Its still years off from being done but its still pretty cool.
The Future Combat System will not be implented into the mod. We want to create armies with today's weaponry, and not base it on prototypes or anything related to such things.
I´m waiting for the OE to go out, then if I can, and if God helps giving me time, I will learn to code, I will make a Cold War mod, or an addon for this mod wiht Russian Federation or something like that.
Well, first of all, coding isn't something you learn in a month. It takes alot of time to know how everything works. Secondly, I would recommend that you create a Cold War mod instead of creating an expansion for this mod..Why? Well, you need permission from both DeadKennyIsDead and Kaskad before you call your work an expansion. Secondly, if you start your own mod, you got much more freedom. But let's get this mod out first, and we'll see if we would create an expansion for this mod.
I already know something about codding, but most of it is for BF2, I just need to redirect it torwards CoH, and it will be done, I´m already starting with the download of several stuff and starting with the basic stuff such as changing skins or tweaking weapons.
although I still don't understand? Why not help this mod for the benefit of your mod? Cause it would help speed up the process...
And might get you permission to use some stuff?
Will there be a campaign?
If you plan doing a campaign I can be of help, I´m a military expert, and have some experience writing military stories, anything you want relating to that, you can PM me, or mail me to Terran_Dominion@hotmail.com
The story is already being worked on, but that's not for a campaign, but just as an explenation why the war started. We don't have any plans for a campaign yet, because we want to get the MP/ skirmish part done first.
Also Monkey Soldier I am sorry I have not filled an application yet it is because I am due with way too much work over these couple of weeks.
I will try to help in any way I can, although I am quite new to 3D. I have a lot of experience with 2D game development such as flash and working with image software. Just a note I started working with 3D Max 9 two weeks ago and am just running through the tutorials, but am finding all the things quite simple. It's only learning what everything does...
Any tutorials that you have found useful would be great
Here to help!
[EDIT] What could I create to show that I have some talent? Maybe a sniper rifle for the mod? I was thinking maybe an anti-material rifle? Anyway what could I make that would be worthwhile for the mod?
Last edited by blademastercr; 2nd Jun 08 at 10:51 AM.
Well, if you want any help with the history tell me, I will gladly help, as I´m looking for more experience and to improve my skills.
When you said you needed more skinners did you mean for textures of things, such as people, vehicles and guns?
I was just messing around earlier today and I took a stab at making some ACU US infantry. Obviously, it's on the default model, and being a noob, I couldn't figure out how to get rid of the suspenders (which make them look very WW2ish) even though I removed them on the shared riflemen.RGT. Any suggestions?
I've also added a flag patch and the helmets (as well as the entire piece) are obviously WIPs. I'd also like to incorporate the Interceptor body armor but I think that would require a new, bulkier riflemen model and that is way, WAY beyond my skill.
I have no affiliation with the mod, by the way. For anyone looking for updates, look elsewhere.
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