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Yea, how much effort does it take to come online and post something like "We need time to fix alot of bugs, so the patch won't be out until the end of next week". As has already been said its not that hard, and they MUST have some idea when it will be ready...
It looks like the patch will be going through the full QA cycle again - which can take 1-2 weeks. Understandbly, Relic will not want there to be any problems with the re-issued version. If only we could be confident that this will be the case.
If they post a date and they are late with the patch because of problems found in the patching process, do you think that people are going to be understanding? or are they going to be pissed off again because they have waited until the date that was given and they feel that the patch should be ready and it being late after failing to be released once which in turn may cause them to start mouthing off at relic who have tried their best?they MUST have some idea when it will be ready...
This isn't what happened at all.Its all ok what you say,BUT its not damnit right,to say after such a mistake;"Hey Guys,were sorry,but latest Release will be Thurstay and then, they just say:"be patient,we workin on it "-.-A lot of Peoples wanna just here that"Release is not that Weekend,maybe next week"-or"we´re sure release is later today"-whats so hard 2 understand on that????
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They said it would be Thursday to fix the connection issue but since then two huge game breaking bugs were found within the patch regarding heroic charge and the funkwagon so they've gone back to the drawing board to fix it.
Yes, but we don't if it's going to be released in 1 hour, 1 day or 2 weeks. And They should be able to at least give an estimate.If they post a date and they are late with the patch because of problems found in the patching process, do you think that people are going to be understanding? or are they going to be pissed off again because they have waited until the date that was given and they feel that the patch should be ready and it being late after failing to be released once which in turn may cause them to start mouthing off at relic who have tried their best?
Ok..whatever guys..this is pissing me off,but if you think logical,Relic isnt work on weekend..so Patch will come next week-,thats how it is.I think and i HOPE!! they will give us information on monday.
I was one of the most pissed off people around because I actually applied the patch and took 6 hours on my antique computer to uninstall OF, reinstall OF and all the patches. But the howling and ranting over when the patch will come is getting kinda old now. If they hadn't released a defective patch in the first place, we would be waiting for the patch now anyway. The game still works pretty well and although I'm pretty anxious for the patch myself, I still play the game. We need to relax and have a drink/smoke or both and forget about the damned patch until it happens.
I am not saying they should give a exact date. Is it to much to ask for a "end of next week" or even a "two weeks away"?
its been 3 days...... where is it?
my guess would be, stuck somewhere on the M25
It would be nice to know whether heads are going to roll over this.
you find the fact that people may lose their jobs funny?
Cut me some slack, jack! It's the only "rolling" smiley this forum has.
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Holy crap guys, some of you are getting on like being hooked into CoH is your only source of nutrition. Go do something else. You can still play on 2.103 like everyone else until the patch arrives. It's not like the game is any less playable now than before the patch came out (and was recalled).
Sitting refreshing the boards every hour or whatever in the hope that there's going to be some word on the matter is insane. Get on with your lives, it'll be out whenever it's outPersonally, I don't really care when it's coming out. It's not the end of the world. The sky is not going to continue falling until 2.2 is properly released.
Just, y'know, go do something else.
I rather wait for them to fix 2.2 then have them let it out and wait for all the problems to be fixed in the next patch.
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If i fail at my job i get fired. Funny or not its my own fault. I wont say QA testers have to be fired but i think i would lost my job if would screw sth like this and wasnt able to fix my works "bugs" over such a long time. But its difficult to judge because i dont know the why´s.
I reiterate what I said in another thread as I think it fits here as well.
Perhaps Relic simply cannot afford to fire people due to a shortage of personnel. Imagine the man hours you would have to disperse within a pool of people on several different titles not to mention all the patching. Added to that if the beuracracy is inefficient and time consuming then you can see the logistical problems (worker's fatigue, thus silly mistakes are made etc.). I mean here is what they are looking for in terms of workers right now from their main website:
Senior Environment Artist, Programmer, Technical Artist, HR Representative, Senior Network Programmer, Senior Designer Programmer.
Sounds to me like a lot of their senior staff moved on from the company, which isn't uncommon if they simply cannot afford to pay them or the work conditions were not what they were liking. I mean its just a theory but its not unreasonable, its like I always say to people sometimes. Logistics make the world go round, you have inefficient logistics, then nothing gets done or you end up with a crappy performance.
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i had to reinstall everything in a pentium IV... thanks relic... this never happen in bnet
I think I've finally reached my breaking point; I can't play this game anymore until the patch. PE is just too... ruining the fucking game. Yep.
More communication would definately be good for starters.
I dont know why people seem to think that relic shouldnt give out vauge estimates, or even more info, about patch release dates. The "omg but if they cant make it people will complain!" argument applies to...well...every game company and it just seems like a silly reason to get scared and hide patch release info like this. Companies like FSS dont seem to have any problems saying things like "We are sending this patch for testing now, and if nothing goes wrong it should go live by next week", and their customers love them for it.
I amagine the QA team got a bug up there a$$ tbh !!
They will be testing this in every possible way to make sure its perfect now before they release....
The ONLY problem i see, is if there were certain bugs that had not been adressed in the 2.2 patch that now need to be coded in..... and from reading some posts from people who got to play 2.2 there certainly are....
The reason this has turned into such a big issue is simple -
CoH as a game is awesome, you feel a part of the game while playing, i have not felt so strongly about a game since Total Annihilation (i imagine a lot of you wernt born then :P)
I just want the game fixed
I want more balance
Nerf everything - let tactics decide the winner.... or a H-Bomb lol
Anyway im off to play the original C&C in 640x480 in a dos emulator..... unit building, unit ready. unit building, unit ready. unit building, unit ready.....
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Just digged that one out from the darknessi have not felt so strongly about a game since Total Annihilation (i imagine a lot of you wernt born then :P)
even found the CD with custom maps and unit, it´s going to be fun plying that one again after so many years
Is there a readme around with a list of changes?
Would be much appreciated.
I wouldn't think it funny if people lost there jobs over this, I would think it was deserved. As has been said, if almost anyone of us had screwed up this bad at work we would be fired. Why are Relic different to everyone else? Just simple estimates about the release date/patch status would make people less pissed. Bloody Hell, its not that hard!
There was a list of changes, but I am not sure how true its going to be now...
is the patch available automatically for download yet? i havnt been able to get on for awhile....news anyone?
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Ok for the like tenth time, guys, please. We know what you know. If there were any news you would have seen a big fat docked thread with yellow highlighting titled "Patch 2.200 update" or something similar.
sry moe, my bad...
I agree with Ap0k. I went to a 1940's themed house party at my friend Sue's dressed as a British tommy last night, with hilarious consequences, and I've been playing Civ 4 and reading one of the Master & Commander books today. Tomorrow evening there's a pub quiz on, and Tuesday I think I'll be seeing Darjeeling Ltd.
There's lots to do out there, and although I'll be stupidly happy when they release this big patch, I can wait.
Please, like Ap0k said, get out there and have fun.
You've discovered the 'outside'? I thought it was but a myth!
Nah, the graphics are just too high for most of us^^
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And way too much bugs.
I've been with the game since Launch and I usually play 2vs2 games online (just started playing automatch). I play exclusively wermacht and my partner plays PE. Just a question.. What makes PE so overpowered that everyone (even axis players) are calling for it to be nerfed?
In my games all I can see is that they are fast but aren't to good mid-game/end-game.
have you ever met the FG42 Fallschirm in close quaters? they become 4 destructive little bastards that decimate any infantry (with 1 or maybe 2 exceptions) not smart enough to stay at a distance.
I see they are very good anti-infantry but then again groups of rangers are anti-EVERYTHING and you cant every kill them unless you have 6 squads of Knights Cross and/or 3-4 Panzer 4's.
As an Axis player I have to dedicate my entire army to killing rangers when I play a veteran player who uses them.
Kite them with Pumas.groups of rangers are anti-EVERYTHING
Well, Im impressed.
Ive never seen such an uproar over... wait for it... a patch.
What is it with you people? Its a game. The oceans havent risen, cities have not collapsed... the sun will rise tomorrow. Really - I promise it will.
Carrying on like a bunch of hysterical merkats isnt going to make the patch get here any faster. Just chill... its getting very old.
I now await the slings and arrows from the merkats...
Full agree! Here in Germany its 06:51 a.m. and the sun has risen again! so just be patient, i think buggo will say us today whats going on
but as if u would release it with out testing to see if it works?
Sigh....
Yes, yes, yes... I believe that was covered in posts 50 throught to 71.
Instead of refreshing this page every 5 seonconds to see an update why not watch this. Watch this
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When you speak german, u cant laugh about this, cause you know then what they are really talking about, but nice idea imo for all not german speaking people out there :P
If you don't mind me asking, what are they really talking about?When you speak german, u cant laugh about this, cause you know then what they are really talking about, but nice idea imo for all not german speaking people out there
He's pissed that the PE are getting nerfed next patch.If you don't mind me asking, what are they really talking about?
you guys actually think this patch is gonna solve anything? from what i remembered, during COH, they didn't fix crap for about 1 year. the only thing they fixed is Overpowered and underpowered issue. They didn't even solve the issues until OP is out. yet, we still have very minor balancing issues !!!!!!!! they didn't fix the multiplayer lag; infact, they have made it worse. i totally lost my faith in them, thats why i started playing warcraft 3 a lot now. if they kept screwing things up,everybody will just br end up playing something like starcraft 2 ( when it came out ).
have you guys noticed the online player numbers? we had around 3500 before. now even only weekend we only have around 2000 left. this game is not even that old !! yet, even warcraft 3 has more players than COH.
just curious, do you guys wanna know how long it took for me to get a game started today? i spent 50 minutes just to join a stupid game and luckily got it started. all the other games i joined were either nobody joins, host afk, unable to connect or host constantly kicking high ping players. 50 minutes !!!!! do you guys know how bored i was?
RELIC once again, you guys have really outdone yourselves!
You don't get around much, do you? 2000 is an amazing number for an RTS. 500 is a stable, successful community. CoH not only has four times the usual amount, it has it after more than a year.we had around 3500 before. now even only weekend we only have around 2000 left.
wtf. i would take 2000 over 500, and defintely 3500 over 2000. we're talking about the GAME OF THE YEAR, not jsut any RTS. why are we comparing it to an avg of 500 ppl?
to me, it's rather disappointing to have the game of the year with declining numbers after 2 months of expansion release.
CoH still has the best figures of any RTS released in recent times. It beats SupCom by a mile (which has around 1000, and the expansion for that was released less than a month ago). CnC 3 is nearly dead, despite a peak number of players at release (see EA Marketingblitz).to me, it's rather disappointing to have the game of the year with declining numbers after 2 months of expansion release.
Complain all you want, 2000 is a number you cannot beat with an RTS of this time.
Daton you should work in Relic marketing departement or perhaps you do.
This scene of the film "Der untergang" is about the realizing hitlers, that the war is lost. He starts blaming the generals for this and begin to lose his last piece of clear mind. He talks about a counter attack of an army that were defeated many months ago, etc.!If you don't mind me asking, what are they really talking about?
Ahh - thank you.
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