Historical Skin Mod (v1.0) - 2.62 Compliant

[luciferum]

hum... that's a too big work and considering your question you know few about how skins are made... *.abp file just tell where other files for a model are. If you edit abp file you'll see for exemple wehrmacht/wehrmacht for the wehrmacht grenadier. That means wehrmacht directory and wehrmacht.rgm file.
The rgm has to be edited with corsix studio, and this file point to real textures that are .rgt files usually in shared folder.
The only advise I can give is pick a model you know, and try to understand how it works and where files are... then you can start to modify stuffs.
But I have no easy way to change HSM... only hard work , sorry for that. I will take you a lot of time and sweat

[Savage Noble]

Ok, luciferum, I think I found the issue here. I installed the tiger_crew folder without bothering to look inside. Then I saw the the two sets marked lehr and SS. Was I supposed to delete "lehr" and "ss" from the names? Also since i found these models, where do I put each set for the appropreate factions?

[luciferum]

Once again, this don't work like that. The program don't care where are the files but just how they are linked.
If you just want to have tank crew ss and lehr switched, just switch the names.

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Here is a preview of the US Ranger

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Next HSM update content (v0.88):
- US Paratrooper,
- US Ranger,
- Hotchkiss,
- US 2nd Inf. Div rifleman and 1st sergeant (vehicle crew remain 2nd armour div),
- US Sniper,
- 'wehrmacht' grenadier squad leader.

[Shaverman]

great work on the rangers and paratroopers. the next update also sounds promising. keep up the good work!

[Eojinlim]

These are such a godsend. Thanks for working on them!

[destroyer221]

Great joob, im looking forward to the next update

[Lupo36]

hi!

keep up.........great work!!!

mfg lupo!

[georider]

great , very good detail on the ammo puts ,and extras.

[luciferum]

Here is the WIP H39, markings will be added soon.

[Lethal Dosage]

Oooooh, pretty!

A very lovely Hotchkiss.

[DMz]

very good, at last a darker cammo

[destroyer221]

Nice

[georider]

nice cammo

[luciferum]

Here is the updated, almost final version of the US Paratrooper :

[ebevan91]

Nice 101st luci!

[IrisDane]

I like it, but is it me or should the uniform be a little darker. I'll check that.

[Shaverman]

nice as always. by the way, what about the Knights Cross Holders? You posted a preview of them before.

[georider]

@luciferum The 101 's jump m43 uniform was olive (light) and the 82nd was like this ( more sand) but perhaps is the light of WB sometimes is better to watch the result from inside the COH to judge a skin. You Eagle Rocks mate !!!!! Perhaps we should make a veversion with out helmet with the Mohawk Hair look Like PUNK from the '80s in Carnaby str .

[IrisDane]

Aah okay. Nice skins; I have to admit the Commando is really good.

[luciferum]

@Georider:
yeah M43 uniform was olive drab #7 (green) and 101st wore this uniform from Arnhem but... in Normandy, 101st wore M42 uniform and 501st regiment wore the M42 reinforced one that my model is supposed to represent. M42 reinforced uniform (with patches on knees and elbow) was olive drab #3.
Okay, I agree my uniform colour looks more khaki so I have to turn it to a bit more green
You also previously told me about US flag on uniform... There were no such flags on M42 uniform but on M43... so probably during Market Garden.
Iroquois hair cut seems a good idea... I have to dig further this...

[georider]

@luciferum what can I say you are the expert on Allied staff , , . The only reference that I have is the Book I've send you. But I believe they must be a noticeable difference between 101 and 82 for the DLC2 campaign.

[denki_groove]

u need reference? look here its free for all

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=223351

[luciferum]

@Georider:
I'm only expert on stuffs I try to skin

[georider]

Got it mate, Then your are expert on everything.

[luciferum]

Not yet Geo... but soon may be !!!

[georider]

Looking forward !

[fdg | Trooper]

@luciferum The 101st never went near Arnhem just to point that out.

Also the British Airlanding uniform on the first page is incorrect, the unit insignia on the arms should be removed as no insignia (apart from para wings for paras and glider wings for glider pilots and rank) was worn on the Denison smock and as these guys are airlanding, they would also not have para jump wings so there should be no insignia on the uniforms at all, apart from that loving the reskin very good.

Also I dled the mod today and tried it but I couldnt get it to work I definately installed it correctly but since the new COH came out and the new patches no mods work for me at all any ideas because I realy want to get my mods working again ?

[luciferum]

@fdg | trooper:
right, not that close to arnhem but in Holland during Market Garden operation. They received M43 uniform then.
I take good note of your remarks on insignia on UK paratroopers, airlanding...

Are you making mixes of mods ??? HSM works fine with 2.502, even on online ranked games.

Here is the preview of the updated PzGrenadier Squad including a variant squad leader.


I made also a modification for the tiger campaign. Actually, this campaign is supposed to be the Wittman tiger ace action in Villers Bocage on june 13th 1944.
As Wittman was member of the Schwer SS-Panzer-Abteilung 101, I changed the paints of the tiger to represent the n° 222 Tiger of the Uscha. Kurt Sowa that Wittman used for this action.

Note: Relic paint wasn't bad but is close PzAbt 102 paint I used in HSM for usual Tigers.

[fdg | Trooper]

K cool, I was'nt mixing mods but il give it annother bash see if I can get it to work.

Nice SS skins there very good.

[luciferum]

Thanks..
here is an update of the US Paratrooper, the uniform has been turned more 'green' to fit more like OD #3 and less khaki...

[georider]

I think M witman uses the 205 and he was killed with the 007 . I'll check my documents but I'm 98% sure about it. I used to use also the Number 222 for my first Tiger model but after some research I came up with the 205. Very good SS grenadiers ,I hoped these to be part of a different SS div. than 10th , 17SS or 9 SS , BUT still are good 10SS div. ( You are very stable ,like me I have stack on 12 SS ). The part of this PE model that I don't like is the short leather boots, such boots are given to German troops during BOB and I think that they don't use them in Normandy ,I'll check it also.
Very good skins , special the Eagle one , Looking forward to test him!
@fdg | Trooper I don't know about the proper decals but the para skin is very accurate .

[GnigruG]

[georider]

Thanks GnigruG the "007" was the Tiger with M.Witmann KIA. Luceferum you are quite correct during the Battle of Villiers Bocage M.Wittmann takes Command of the TIger "234" of Herbert Stiff while Stiff get back to inform the rest of the Tiger crews of 101 Abt. about the British forces of 4th Country of London Yeomanry in Villiers. Wittmann with 234 tried to attacked but due to some technical problems with the engine of "234" he took 2nd class Sergent Kurt Siva Tiger "222" ( some sources talked for 231) . His crew was Valter Mueller (driver) , Boby Vol ( Gunner) , Gunder Bolt ( Loader) and Gunder Jhonas ( radioman/ MG gunner) . There is also a small confusion about the Vol if he was on this Tiger or not. Himself had denied it on a interview after the war.
During the battle he destroyed The first Halftrack of the colum and the last sherman . He destroyed 15 halftracks , 2 Cromwells , 1 Firefly, 3 Stuards and 2 6pdr AT guns.Inside town he destroyed 3 Sherman , and on Firefly. The Tiger was immobilized by one 6pdr At which destroyed the wheel. Wittmann and his crew had walked for 15 km back to Panzer division "Lehr" HQ .
In Villers Bocage British had Lost 30 Tanks and a large number of armored Vehicles.
For his action M.Wittmann got the Swords in his Cross of Iron.

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References
1. Patric Agte: Michael Wittman and The Tiger Commanders of LSSAH ( April 1996)
2. GAry L.Simpson : Tiger Ace : The life story of Panzer Commander M.Wittmann

So I have admit Luciferum I 'm correct about 007 but I'm wrong about 222 , but somewhere else I have read about the 205 ??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[luciferum]

Well... What is sure is:
- Wittman used several diferent tigers,
- All those tigers were from SS ABT 101, so Relic camo for tiger is wrong.

My source comes from the following book:

In this book, it is written that Witmann's tiger on june 13th was the n°222.

@GnigRug: Yep, 007 is the one Witt was killed on 8th August, but if you had read my post you should have noticed I was talking about June 13th... Thanks abyway for your contribution

[fdg | Trooper]

@Georider: Yes the Brit Para skin is very well done and very accurate the colour of the denison is perfect, a great improvement over the vanilla one, but the insignia and pouches are the only wrong thing and as its a historical skin mod its my duty to point it out.

The Belraphron shoulder badge and the Paratrooper shoulder title were not worn on the Denison they were worn on the Battle Dress worn underneath the smock (like the leutenant in vanilla COH)

For Paratroopers the Jump wings were worn on the shoulder to show they had completed paratrooper training.

For the SAS these wings were worn on the chest

For Glider Pilots the glider pilots wings were worn on the chest

For Airlanding (the glider troops in COH) they had no insignia on the denison at all as they had no para training so there denisons would be blank apart from rank.

Rank was however was worn on the denison smock.

Is there any way of remodeling the COH Paras so that they have the correct webbing? (same as the Brit Infantry)

I do alot of reinactment for an Airlanding group that portrays the South Staffs and the Devons (6th Airlanding 6th Airborne D-Day) so I have gathered a bit of knowlege on them, I can dig out some pics from some museeums if you want ?

[luciferum]

@fdg | trroper:
Help is always welcomed particularly from people who 'Really' have got knowledge. Your precisions on UK denison insigna is really welcome and I'll update my mod soon in order to be more historically accurate. It's always easier to remove insignia than to add some
To change the webbing is more complicated but not impossible.
Changing ammo pouches might cause some problem however.

[georider]

I was also talking about 13th of June so my mistake was on the number 205 instead of 222 ( some are believe that was 231 , not 222 but the majority believe 222).
The major reason that I did not want or like to made a 007 Tiger is that this was misfortune for Michal . I will make 222 or 231 .

[LloydyBoy]

i believe its 205 for wittmans tiger (cant Prove it :P) but when his tiger suffered from engine troubles near Hill 78/98 (cant remember what hill) he borrowed one of his Allied tiger Marked 222 and ordered the crew of 222 to repair his 205 tiger when he went into Viller-Bocage and it was knocked out by a 6 pounder AT gun to the rear of the tank he escaped and returned with 205 tiger and 231 Allied Tiger

there's history for ya

as for his death yes he borrowed the tank while his tank was being repaired again for engine trouble fell sorry for him his tiger wont drive propoly

[georider]

@LloydyBoy 205 he use this before bocage but there he use 222 or 231 , maybe that's the story I have remember and I said 205 Thanks mate.

[destroyer221]

Great work Luciferum im looking forward the next release. But today i spoted something i have to report - i dont know if it is a bug or something else but the MG gunner on the Hetzer is missing, it will be great if you can fix this in the next update.

[georider]

destroyer221 the Hetzer MG is auto control by inside it hasn't got an MG gunner. Also this is the relic standard model.

[luciferum]

@Destroyer: Yep, Geo is right. Unbelievable but germans started to had MG controled from the inside on their panzers by the end of war (Stugs and hetzer mainly)... as several armoured vehicles nowadays have not this possibility.

Here is the preview camo for the Hotchkiss panzerjager...

[Celution]

Nice one, but I think the red stripes are too big.

[denki_groove]

no not too big that looks great
why dont somebody make a jagdpanther with ambush camo?

[luciferum]

A bit big may be.. not that much but a little bit

[georider]

Excellent H-39 skin mate, probably I must wait and release my work after yours because you scored like F.C. Barcelona

[destroyer221]

I see, so there is no problem then .
Luciferum can you add commander on the tiger tank or mg gunner after the second veteran rank like the panther or it is not possible/recommanded ?

[luciferum]

@destroyer: I can't do that, sorry.
@Geo: Thanks but I want to rework on it ... even if the effect in game is quite good.

[Shaverman]

really nice work, as always.

btw, I postet this question before, maybe you overread it: You postet a preview of the Knight's Cross Holders a while ago. Will they be included in the next update?

[luciferum]

Yes. The KCH will be included even I'm not really satisfied with this model.