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When I first heard of Mark Wahlberg playing Max payne I was a little bit Thrilled but now after reading they wanna make it a PG13 movie I am really confused if that is the way to treat a game like that =/
What is your opinion? I mean the last game to movie conversions were all medicore at best and combined with this PG13 rating I am unsure if I will watch this movie although I loved the game...
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Put Max Payne into google and you're in for a big surprise.
Also, I have zero hope that this film will be like the games.
#3
Well, Mark Whalberg is ok, but PGR-13 killls everything for me.
In my opinion, a comic adaptation/animated movie would work much better here. The game's story and athmosphere was often deliberately corny and over the top. I predict a popcorn movie that is not as entertaining as playing Max Payne 1 again.
#5
Wahlberg is a reasonable visual fit for the Max Payne of the first game, if not the second. Beyond that I have little hope for this film.
Max Payne was a game with a vague story, but the magic was in the art direction and the bullet time mechanic. The comic book style of telling the story was original enough, whilst the slow-mo-jump-shoot thing was crazy fun. I can't really see how either of those are going to be well implemented in a film. So what are we left with? The basic storyline itself, which was what? His wife and kid got killed....there were some Russians.... he shot them all. The end.
sounds like a fairly normal action film story to me EB.
But yeah games and films are such a different media its almost impossible to make a conversion that stays loyal to the game. Better off kept as a game im thinking.
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Well... Max Payne would make a good movie, if done correct, but, well... We can still dream
in my experience. no game-movie has ever been good. i doubt this one will be different
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#9
When I saw this, I was thinking "NO UWE BOLL, DON'T DO IT!"
But now I am actually rather relieved. The Hitman movie was "ok", it wasn't any biggy but at least it wasn't shitcrap by default.
Max Payne, with his insane monologues, has potential of becoming a good movie.
#10
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#11
well, Mark Wahlberg also looks like Max, which helps a bunch too.
But PG13? Bloody hell, the game's story line has murder every 3 seconds, insane drug usage, satanic ritualists, mafia types, prostitutes, junkies and the Russians. How can it be PG13 without taking out the main crux of the storyline (ie, a very dark tale of a desparate cop who doesn't play by the rules and who was nothing to lose. Wait a minute, that sounds familiar...)
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PG13 my ass. Max Payne without a R-Rating will suck compared to the game. I would not like to see a Max Payne movie without extreme violance, language, drug abuse, murdered wife and baby and stuff... ehm well ... withouth anything the game had.
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So they didn't learn anything from the Hitman movie at all...not too surprising actually, as Hollywood still seems to think that anyone over 15 doesn't play video/computer games.
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The trailer is released. Looks good but I still hope they get rid of the PG-13 rating...
Lol, this might actually be good, but I still fail to see what any of what I've seen have anything to do with the game. Except for him standing looking at his dead family.
Im sorry but whats PG13?
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That the film is suitable for 13year old kids. If you know Max Payne I'm sure you'll realise that this can't end well...
@Abadon: you've seen 1:30min of a movie that's probably one and a half hour long, I'd say there is more than enough time left for some Max Payne
Unfortunatly we are probably all going to go see just to see what it's like, and hollywood will never learn then. But boycotts of media is a thing for rabid nerds who don't like EA and... *looks around* nvm lets boycott
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scoiatollo; it is of course a well known fact that despite this trailer editors somehow manage to cut so fast that 5-min theatrical trailer somehow manages at least one frame from every shot in the film.
Last edited by BmB23; 10th Jul 08 at 6:14 AM.
Well it was 1:30
http://www.gamestar.de/screenshots/8...ayne_film.html
For some screenshots if you like
What does that movie have to do with Max Payne? What were those bird like flying creatures? Wuh? Also, i heard that there will be no monologes. Don't know if that is true but if it is the movie is dead to me.
"Max Payne is looking for something that god wants to stay hidden"? Are they going supernatural?
Nothing to do with Max Payne...and it could have been so good...
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What the hell were those gargoyle things in the trailer? There were no flying demon gargoyles in the games! Rabble rabble rabble!
But the action does look promising, and since I'm a big fan of the Max Payne games I'm gonna watch the movie regardless.
I wonder if those flying spectre things were just in his head. Instead of a continuous monologue, perhaps we get into his head once in a while.
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#23
I'm hoping that they're drug-induced dream sequences.What the hell were those gargoyle things in the trailer? There were no flying demon gargoyles in the games! Rabble rabble rabble
#24
Probably. I kind of doubt there will be blood puddle platforming in the movie after all. Need something else.
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hmm, never tried the game, but the movie looks alright...
how is it PG13 when there's a freaking chick wanting some pleasure in the trailer?
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#27
I wouldn't have minded if they omitted those from the game either
#28
WTF.
Some of the action scenes look good (when he does the classic forward jump shot it actually looks like a person doing it awkwardness and all, not like Mark Wahlberg is some uber-kung-fu master which is good to see) but I simply do not understand why Hollywood hasn't learned its lesson yet about ratings.
The game was rated MATURE, so the movie should be for MATURE audiences. That means R. Not PG13. This is one of the bloodiest and most disturbing story lines told in a game, how the hell are they going to tone it down while still keeping the Max Payne atmosphere? The trailer does a decent job (those angels of death better fracking be dream sequences or drug induced hallucination), but I am very worried that I will be sorely disappointed.
They better have some of those fucked up dream sequences as well. Some of the creepiest levels in my gaming memory.
I really don't understand why they're pushing for a PG13 rating. Most everyone who played it, could comprehend the story, and get immersed in both games, can go and see R rated movies. The kiddie who was 7 when Max Payne game out isn't going to go see the film. Sure PG13 might bring in a few dollars, but why not run the risk of actually making the film good.
#30
Uh maybe because PG13 encompasses a much bigger audience than R does? Therefore better sales? Baddass R movies tend to sell less than anything that is PG or PG13, that is pretty much a well-established fact IIRC.
Looks freaking awesome if you ask me, if the action is as crazy as any of the Bourne movies (which are PG13 I think), I will be totally happy. A movie doesn't have to have "oh my gore and sex" to kick ass. On top of that, PG13 is approaching R very fast, there is still a noticable difference of course, but I'm actually interested in this movie.
#31
That trailer does not look promising to me. At all.
Well this had major potential to be the first really good video game movie. Wahlberg is perfect for Max (see The Departed).
However the whole game is based around how Max's wife and small child are brutally murdered. Not to mention all the disturbing trippy dream sequences, heavy drug usage. Constant foul language and overall dark setting. This is what made the game great, while the slo mo action was fun its all this noir packaging that sealed the deal.
A PG-13 movie cannot convey these themes properly in the slightest. Its like making a predator movie thats rated pg-13, o wait they did and it was unbelievably horrible. It doesn't even make sense considering most of the people who originally played max payne were 17+ at the time it was released, and for the kids who were 7 or 8 at the time who evidently are the target audience for this movie probably have no idea who or what max payne is.
The whole thing wreaks of fail.
Ehh, near the end the one flying spectre thing plucks a guy out the window, I don't think thats a drug induced dream sequece, I wager that its a Constantine rip off.
#34
There were no super-natural anythings in Max Payne. You just don't add that to a story.
Remember though, the trailer could be giving us completely the wrong idea. I can recall numerous trailers which made a movie appear to be completely different from what it was.
I would say that the flying things are references to V....for those who don't know what V is:
"V"...WARNING: CONTAINS MAX PAYNE PLOT INFO
V refers to Valkyr, a fictional drug that is the center point to the story line in the original Max Payne.
It better be just a reference...otherwise I think they need a different brand of hero....perhaps Van Helsing or the Ghostbusters....
Of course the Valkyres are part of the drug induced episodes...
If it isnt it would be like adding machine guns and tanks to Gladiator.
If its pg13 though its going to be retarded, I also see "Ludacris" is for some reason playing a middle aged white man.
Movie executive "oh i know what we can do!!!, not only will we make quite possibly the most horrifyingly dark storyline into a disney pg13 film but we will add a black rapper to get those gullable minorities into the film!!! black people still like rappers dont they? fo shizzle my bizzle!!!"
I realy want to like this movie and i want it to be good but the alarms are allready sounding.
To date the only acceptable game-movie hybrids are...
Resident Evil 1 (though this might be because i wasnt a RE fan so murdering the games plot didnt phase me).
Hitman.
thats about it.
#37
Aha! I had forgotten that V is short for Valkyr. That makes a lot more sense now.
0:27 to 0:31 "Max Payne is looking for something that God wants to stay hidden". The way he said it doesn't sound like "Oh God only knows where that is" kinda way either. :/
What with the Gargoyle/Valkyries I don't know what the fuck to make of this. Doesn't look good to me.
#39
I've played through the original a couple of times in the past few months. The only things flying were bullets and objects propelled, however briefly, by explosive devices of varying sizes.
#40
The flying thingies surely are part of his nightmares!
I think the trailer looks fine but PG13 is ridiculous for such a movie ...
How about you people (Once again ...) stop saying how it is going to be shit because of something in the trailer. Don't you people ever fucking learn?
It is very easy to assume that those flying things are going to ruin the movie. However, it is so much easier to assume they are part of drug trips or dreams. Those few clips could just be flashes from the movie, where for a second or two we see what Max's mind sees. Sort of a way to keep the narration going, but without the words.
Those of you that claim there were no supernatural themes in Max Payne either have holes in your heads, or you didn't actually play the games. There was supernatural running through the monologues like crazy. There was drug induced nightmares about hell on earth. There were rituals and satanic worship.
Did you forget the ever repeated:
The flesh of fallen angels!
And to end:
The word was out. A deadly virus released into the City's corrupt circulatory system. Something wicked this way comes. Max Payne at large.
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Theres a difference between having drug induced visions of being in hell and actually battling demons and hell monsters though.
Max Payne has always been rooted in reality.
Though im not saying the Valkyrs will suck, i actually quite like the idea of them.
Max's voice needs more work and the film should at least be a 15, PG13 is beyond a joke.
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Lets take the clip about the Valkyries right at the end:
Max shoots a guy, and the guy gets thrown back through the glass.
Glass shatters around the man, and Max sees, because of a slight miscalculation in his morning drug dose, the man instead being pulled through the glass by a valkyrie.
First the camera pans from inside the building, showing the man getting hit in the chest, in slow motion he gets rocketed back into the glass. As we hear the glash shattering, the camera is moving around for a full 360 view, it passes quickly through a wall, on the other side we see wings, spraying glass, arms pulling the man through the glass ...
See? Valkyrie not real. It's as seen by Max.
Now, we appy the same idea to the little flying things. Max is being shot at by a lot of people. Bullets rip past him, snatiching at his clothes as the attackers barely miss him. A bullet shatters the second to top button on his shirt. Max sees, again through a drugged stupor, instead of bullets - furry winged demons attacking him, ripping at his clothes as he runs through them, a claw shatters the second to top button on his shirt ...
The visuals are there, I suspect, to add to the narrative voice. To say what the narrative voice can not. The graphic part of a graphic novel. Because ... come on, lets face it. A voice over for the whole movie just wouldn't feel right. It worked grate in the games, but in translation that "grate" will be lost. Sure, some voice over will be well done, but if the voice is simply describing what Max is seeing ... we won't get to see it.
EDIT: Just watched the trailer again, I can see many ways that the line "Max payne is looking for something that God wants to stay hidden" could mean much different things.
The guy who says it also says "The devil is building his army".Spoiler
and it shows "Lupino" who we all know from THE FLESH OF FALLEN ANGELS
"God" in the above, could be the DA, the mayor, anyone. The character who speaks like that could mean that easily.
Also, nothing wrong with the voice. Sure, it doesn't sound exactly like Max Payne (The first). But it does sound in character. It sounds like a Max Payne.
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Last edited by LoCo; 11th Jul 08 at 8:52 AM.
@lord calgar, the rating system in the U.S. goes straight from pg-13 to R which you have to be 17 to view without a parent or legal guardian.
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As some one who has never played Max Payne I:
A) Thought that trailer was awesome!
and
B) Assumed those flying things were simply a vision, a visual representation of death, most likely drug induced.
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While the flying things don't bug me at all (his dream sequences in the game were trippy as hell), its still a video game being made into a movie, which means the storyline will have nothing to do with the game (I'm guessing it'll have 3+ writers as well, making it disjointed and confusing) and the whole thing will be designed around a massive cash-in, rather than an actual attempt to make a good movie. The PG-13 rating also gives me another reason to believe that this won't work the way it should.
#48
only way i think this could work is that if they made it artsy like Sin City
As long as there is lots of violence and bullet-time I'm happy.
#50
LoCo, it'd be strange for them to play up the supernatural part that much in a trailer if it's all just drug haze. There are so many references in that trailer ("... what God wants to stay hidden", the "Valkyrie" and the little flying things, devil building his army) pointing at something Constantine-esque that they're clearly trying to play the super natural card to the fullest, at least in marketing the movie.
Now, I don't know if it'll be a good movie or a bad movie, I hate speculating on stuff when there's no way of knowing how it'll actually turn out. Having said that and despite the fact that I like Constantine a lot, I hope that this movie doesn't feature actual angels and demons, because the supernatural did not play a part in the games other than being a futile and crazed obsession of a drugged up gangster.
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