Once on a blue moon...

[La Head]

Has anyone actually played a 2vs2 game against brits and yanks where they DID NOT arty spam you to submission and DID NOT blob rangers and drop commados left, right and centre to annihilate your infantry? If this rare thing ever happened to you, can you please post a replay of it? I'm dead tired of the same action happening over and over again and need some help to remind me what CoH is SUPPOSE to be instead of what it is now...

List of events in a typical game:

1. mortor + trench leaves the map have open the the brits already
2. early stuart and M3 just laugh at any schrek squads and flamers
3. rangers show up, i go 'wtf'? try to stop with puma.
4. commandos fly in to kick nebel's ass
5. arty arty arty arty...
6. firefly is right outside the base, try to get schreks to kill it, ranger blob shows up....
7. arty arty arty arty arty...
8. reinforcing my squads, trying to get a desperate stug even though the other ones already failed.
9. arty arty arty arty...
10. commandos come into base, all new squads regardless of vet dead
11. arty arty arty arty...
12. gg

[ciwawa]

always same to me, when i play ranked i own the allies for the 80% of the game, but when ranger and arty show up there is not match i simply get pwned and everithyng i go in trying an assault get crushed or pwned by artillery..... and my favorite wher doctrione the defensive is now useless as che 88 crew simply blow up to the sky.... i'm starting to be very frustated and thinking to play brit for a while to get a victory...

[classic77]

Yeah, actually, I have both experienced and triumphed over these stratagies...check my online rec.

It seems like people arty spam with allies about 50% of the time...so use your uber axis tanks...or arty back...or just stop playing...I wont miss you.

Im sick of arty complaints, I started playing after OF came out, but I never thought the arty was overpowering or unbaolanced. The problem is people just keep throwing more infantry at it and complaining.

Adapt or be destroyed.

[ciwawa]

as hitler sayed in his downfall "this is coh no c&c" so spamming unit and don't care of the unique fature of coh (like infantry flanking, infantry cover ecc) is just no fun... playng a map like river valley when the map after 20 minutes of playing look like hamburger hill is not fun... is just spam

[Synthmon]

Well, what you usually say is "OMGWTF DONT PLAY VIRE THEN". Same goes for Lyon. I never do these days. Sure, it's a bore, it's a great map but it invites for LAME gameplay. Either the bridges/bottlenecks get totally cut off, or you get arty spam.

[shiner980]

Bridge maps are very susceptible to players being extremely eager to block everything off, though if players are willing to set up forward bases, or footholds on the other side, it gets fun, though usually that means that the side getting invaded is less skilled. The two maps I think really encourage the whole artillery spam thing is The Schdelt (sp) since its just way too difficult to get a food hold...anywhere without mortar spam, followed closely by arty spam.

As for lame commando/ranger spam...I only consider it spam once I see 3 or more of these two kinds of infantry, though I paraspam (I get 3 of em if i can), only cause of doing triple RR with M8/Rifle support, so even I am guilty to an extent.

[Win_Imperial]

Ok, but I don't see what the issue is with the stuart. The Brits have to spend quite a bit of recources just to be able to produce one.

I clearly remember a 2v2 game I had yesterday when I finally got a Stuart out it was killed in a matter of moments by a grenadier blob, even after I took out a fair amount of them with canister shot. I swear, every team game I play at least one axis players comes at me with a Grenadier or Stormtrooper blob.

[TeamPLayer]

LOL. Since I play Brits and my friend or friends play USA, I went to look back on my saved games to find you an example where the scenario you pointed out does not happen. Unfortunately, I couldn't. I play royal engineers most of the times, but my friends play infantry most of the time since the other two USA doctrines are useless in the current game. So..... when you play infantry your special abilities are rangers and arty ... you know the rest.

I would say deal with it temporarily until the new patch comes out, I believe the number of infantry and commandos players will decrease dramatically.

[kenty900]

Hmmmm not seeing a good argument here tbh. Maybe because i dont agree. I just see a rant. Plain and simple arty is big part of brit play and big bonus to them. You should exploit there negatives not whine about their positives.

Rangers just slaughter them with some vetted grens with mg cover same for commandos... or maybe a mobile flak? Arty most the time you can get out the way before it hits. Really if this is effecting you your keeping your units too close together.... just flank installations or nebel them to hell (keep it safe with grens close by if afraid of commandos or para dropping in). Also keep them moving, dont leave them in the same place when fired... simple tbh.