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    Relic Patch 2.300 Changelog

    v2.300 03/18/2008

    Online

    - 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 Team Automatch enabled.
    - Added a number of missing tooltips and information popups.
    - Re-factored competition logic for ranks and results.
    - Fixed some bugs where whispers were not being sent properly.
    - Leaderboard search is now not case sensitive.
    - Fixed a number of crashes.
    - Fixed a bug that would lock out valid match type options when kicked from a team or an invitation is cancelled.
    - Players should no longer get disconnected from a game if the server goes down.
    - Forcing ping updates when joining automatch games.
    - Tabs will now flash if there is activity in the tab and it is not the currently selected tab. (ie. Game setup / Automatch)
    - Reduced frequency of the Ping of Shame warning for other players.
    - Fixed a performance tooltip bug that made it display the wrong number of players.
    - Fixed some arbitration logic for random teams.
    - Notifications will now be sent if the user ranks up or down.
    - Fixed a number of issues with tool-tip layers.
    - Added "Exit Game" option on the Count Not Verify Media pop-up.
    - Refactored host notifications and automatch messages.
    - Added user feedback to the Relic Online Account Details screen whenever an invalid input is given.
    - User is now removed from channels when disconnected.
    - Responses to invitations while in game and while returning to main menu after a game will be sent automatically.
    - Resolved the issue where a win was awarded to the wrong faction.

    Fixes

    - Fixed a game crash caused by a British player producing a Cromwell Command Tank and using the Creeping Smoke Barrage ability near any ally tank.
    - Gliders should not be able to land in enemy base sectors.
    - Laying barbed wire should be fixed and back to how it was in vanilla CoH.
    - Fixed the minimap so that it is not mis-aligned.
    - Fixed a bug that prevented the British from acquiring resources properly if the HQ truck was moved.
    - Items are now transferred to remaining members of a squad instead of dropping them on the ground. If the team is fully absorbed into a team weapon, the items are dropped.
    - Fixed AI unit production limit so that certain units won’t be built more than specified amount.
    - Added additional unit demand multiplier, which lowers production demand if AI player has the same unit already.

    Bug Fixes

    - Removed phantom Vet 2 and Vet 3 upgrades on Panzer Elite Jagdpanther and Hetzer.
    - Fixed Panzer Elite Incendiary Mortar weapon causing constant engine criticals
    - Panzer Elite Light AT halftrack modifier set correctly for cooldown modifiers (was enable 2.5, is now multiply 1.5)
    - Panzer Elite Fallschirmjager attack trigger priority value when camouflaged reduced from 90 to 80. Fallschirmjager will more reliably exit camouflage to attack infantry targets when autoattacking.
    - Springfield Sniper Rifle had some backwards modifiers fixed (min cooldown was larger than max cooldown)
    - British Lee Enfield should play bolt action animation now. Fire Wind up variable added 1.3 seconds, removed 1.3 seconds from cooldown to compensate.
    - Updated penetration of captured Bazookas and Recoilless Rifles vs some British Tanks.
    - Wehrmacht Pistol armed weapon crews had their camouflage attack priorities tuned and will reveal themselves less often when camouflaged.
    - Fixed flamethrower infantry death critical. Critical type now only applies to squad member carrying flamethrower.
    - Fixed timing issues and left behind sim-boxes with several smoke abilities.
    - Commando squad reinforcements cost increased to fix UI rounding issue (UI showed 34, actual cost was 35). Cost should display as 35 now.
    - Fixed Hetzer Reinforcement requirements to match squad popcap
    - Panzer Elite vehicles should visually use proper Panzer Elite crews.
    - British mortar emplacements no longer have phantom third crew member.
    - Fixed a bug in British Captain FOO artillery. Artillery will recharge properly if Captain is moved quickly before artillery starts to land.
    - Bug fix for Overwatch Artillery. Overwatch Artillery projectiles won't intersect incorrectly with world objects enroute to their target destination.
    - Bug fix for Nebelwerfers. When shooting nearby tall objects (buildings etc.) the rockets could intersect with the building and destroy the Neblewerfer crew. This should be addressed for most situations.
    - Fixed several UI and text issues.
    - Fixed an issue with sniper camouflage. Both Wehrmacht and Allied snipers can be detected if a unit gets within 3m.
    - Fixed a bug where British Artillery would not leave overwatch mode when killed and taken over by enemy troops.
    - Fixed a bug where Panzer Elite Scout cars could not 'un-setup' if the point it was securing was Scorched.
    - Fixed recharge timer on sector artillery. Recharge timer and duration were not matching.
    - Fixed a bug where British Mortars would not leave overwatch or counterbattery mode when killed and taken over by enemy troops.
    - Fixed a bug where Fallschirmjager were able to infiltrate from neutral trenches or friendly vehicles.
    - Registered artillery will hide properly when Wehrmacht player has lost their HQ
    - Wehrmacht assault will work on trenches.
    - British Cromwell Flank Speed ability will be disabled when the Cromwell is Hull Down.
    - Building moved on Hochwald Gap to prevent US and Wehrmacht AT units from getting stuck
    - Map balance fix on Hill 331
    - Map bug fix on Route N13

    Gameplay

    - Wehrmacht and Panzer Elite Panzerschreck projectile scatter tuned to closer match that of US bazooka. This will reduce number of accidental hits on enemy vehicles.
    - Wehrmacht and Panzer Elite Panzerschreck accuracy at short and medium ranges increased.
    - Stuka zu Fuss rocket damage modifiers have been tuned vs British infantry. Damage modifier reduced from 1.0 to 0.4
    - A new mine-drop ability was added to the Panzer Elite Munition halftrack and the Goliath Drop was moved to the Funkwagen 'Vampire' Halftrack.
    - PE Munitions halftrack minelaying ability shortcut is set to 'N'
    - Panzer Elite AT halftrack Treadbreaker ability had its range increassed from 32 to 42
    - Allied Snipers don't get a camouflaged speed modifier until they reach vet 3.
    - HMGs (i.e. Vickers, Browning, .50 cal,mg42 HMG) increased 1.15 suppression vs tp_infantry_soldier.
    - HMGs have increased suppression area (from 12 to 15m)
    - US Quad 50 halftrack weapon does more damage and has more accuracy vs pinned targets. Suppression modifier boosted to 1.2
    - US Quad 50 halftrack upgrade reduced from 125 to 100 munition.
    - Wehrmacht MG42 LMG suppression modifer to tp_infantry and tp_infantry soldier increased from 1.0 to 1.15
    - US P47 Strafing run increased in damage vs tp_infantry_soldier - tuned strafing run and P47 weapons to improve effectiveness against enemy infantry.
    - Additional tuning to P-47 Strafing run. Weapons do more suppression, but are less effective vs units in cover.
    - Tuning target step distance on Strafing run. Should spread damage more along length of strafing run and bombing runs.
    - US Supply Drop reduced in cost from 200mp to 100mp
    - US Ranger Reinforce cost increased to 45mp
    - US Off-map Howitzer barrage delay set to 3 seconds.
    - Panzer Elite 222 Armoured Car gets 30 health bonus when receiving any first level veterancy.
    - Added Button Vehicle ability to British Bren carrier. This ability works on the unupgraded Bren carrier, and is replaced by Armor Piercing Rounds when the Vickers MMG is upgraded.
    - Tuned priority of Bren Carrier weapon and modified Bren Carrier Button ability so that it more reliably shoots at target of Button Ability.
    - Panzerfaust damage modifier reduced vs Bren Carrier from 2 to 1.5
    - Reduced accuracy of AT weapons and Panzerschreck vs Bren carrier (moving accuracy modifier set to .5)
    - Kettenkrad set to use a different turn plan with modified rotation rates to to help it from being blocked by micro-managed jeeps.
    - Wehrmacht Inspired Assault cooldown weapon modifier changed from .2 to .6 to fix sniper issues.
    - Bren Carrier percent unload on death changed from .5 to .75 so more garrisoned units will survive destruction of the carrier.
    - Tuned some priorities on Wehrmacht Ostwind weapon to reduce its chances of shooting at tanks over emplacements.
    - Wehrmacht Medical Kits can be used inside garrisonable structures or vehicles.
    - StuH 105mm does more damage to hedgerows.
    - Changed Wehrmacht sniper cooldown modifiers on veterancy from 2.5s shorter cooldown to .6 cooldown modifier
    - British HQ trucks are limited to one Secured Resourcing Upgrade.
    - Damage on US Turret mounted and M3 halftrack .50 cal HMGs increased vs tp_infantry_soldier.
    - Increased Radius of Wehrmacht Rocket Barrage from 15m to 20m
    - Increased Damage of Wehrmacht Rocket Barrage weapon from 100 to 175
    - Reduced cost of Wehrmacht Rocket Barrage by 50mun to 200mun
    - Reduced number of shells in Rocket Barrage from 15 to 12. FX changed.
    - Reduced delay of Wehrmacht Firestorm barrage by approximately 3 seconds.
    - Wehrmacht 280mm Rocket Barrage weapon tuned vs buildings and British HQs. Damage increased vs British HQs and decreased vs US buildings.
    - British Commando Infantry reinforce cost increased from 25 to 35
    - British Commando Concealing Smoke and Commando Grenades share timers - abilities cannot be used at the same time.
    - British Commando Glider, with the exception of the Glider HQ, will not allow reinforcements or be able to build units outside friendly territory.
    - British Commandos cannot capture when using Concealing Smoke. Using smoke while capturing will disable the capture.
    - British Commando Gliders will be able to land anywhere except enemy base sectors.
    - Suppression on some HMG and LMGs increased vs tp_infantry_soldier.
    - Wehrmacht bunkers gain 300 health when Wehrmacht players choose Fortify the Perimeter command tree ability.
    - Wehrmacht Observation Points receive a health bonus when Wehrmacht players choose Fortify the Perimeter from the Defensive Doctrine.
    - Wehrmacht and Fallschirmjager Panzerfaust damage increased vs heavy armour (roughly 50% more damage) and increased roughly 30% vs Light Armoured vehicles
    - British Lt. Heroic charge duration reduced from 20s to 15s.
    - Added one more reload cycle to US Ranger M1 thompson. Rangers would fire two bursts before reloading. Will now fire three.
    - US Ranger M1 Thomspon cooldowns and reloads tuned to decrease damage output.
    - Jagdpanther and Hetzer squad veterancy requirements doubled. These tanks take longer to reach each level of veterancy.
    - PIAT ambush ability cost removed.
    - British Overwatch artillery projectile speed increased marginally
    - British Overwatch weapon scatter tuning adjusted - angle reduced, area reduced marginally. Should make for more concentrated effect
    - British Overwatch recharge reduced. Overwatch used to take 30s to disable itself, now takes 22s.
    - British Overwatch ability passively reduces the recharge rate of 25pounder barrage abilities
    - British Creeping barrage has increased artillery rounds incoming.
    - British Creeping barrage passively reduces the recharge rate of 25pounder artillery barrage abilities.
    - British 25pounder rotates faster to make it more responsive during Counter Batttery operations
    - British Artillery in Counter Battery mode will fire back at enemy artillery even if it does not damage friendly units
    - British Counter Battery should be a bit more responsive.
    - British Counter Battery takes less time to disable itself. 22s instead of 30s.
    - British Sappers will move at normal speed outside territory when upgraded as Demolition and Disposal Section
    - British Mortar Overwatch will use proper range (same as Supercharge)
    - Infantry Antitank weapons will do less damage to Flak 88s and Flakvierling weapons.
    - Panzer Elite roadblocks offer heavy cover.
    - Panzer Elite roadblocks are buildable as walls and the object was made smaller to accomodate more precise construction.
    - Panzer Elite Panzer Grenadiers are able to construct barbed wire when they get RoadBlocks.
    - British Captain's FOO artillery ability is improved. First round lands faster and does suppression. That round is followed shortly by 3 rounds and then finally by 5 rounds in expanding areas.
    - British FOO artillery tuned.
    - Panzer Elite 22x, Greyhound M8, and Werhmacht SdKfz 234 Puma Armoured Cars no longer use a unique rear damage critical type.
    - Light vehicles (M8s, 234 Armoured Cars, Panzer Elite Armoured cars) are easier to hit when suffering engine damage. Engine damage increases accuracy penalty to 1.25, Engine destroyed increases accuracy penalty to 1.6.
    - Panzer Elite Fallschirmjager Panzerfaust ability recharges much faster and no longer requires munition halftracks for a faster recharge.
    - British Cromwell had some target priority issues resolved.
    - British Command trucks can no longer reinforce when mobile.
    - Panzer Elite Luftwaffe Flakvierling cost reduced from 300mp\35fuel to 300mp\30fuel
    - Panzer Elite Marder III accuracy and damage reduced vs AT guns. Accuracy from 1 to .65, damage from 1 to .65
    - Marder III has a short delay in movement when it leaves "Site Main Gun" ability.
    - British Firefly damage reduced vs AT guns from 1 to .65
    - British Firefly cost increased from 420mp\100fuel to 450mp\100fuel.
    - British Firefly reload time increased by 2.5s.
    - British Command tank modifies reload time of Firefly by an additional .8 to offset increase in reload time.
    - British Firefly reload duration multipliers increased at short and medium ranges.
    - Wehrmacht Panther Cost reduced from 640mp\125fuel to 600mp\110fuel.
    - Wehrmacht Panther main gun range increased from 40 to 47.5.
    - Allied Sherman 76mm Upgun upgrade reduced in cost from 200mp\85fuel to 200mp\50fuel
    - King Tigers and Jagdpanthers have reduced accuracy vs moving M10 Tank Destroyers.
    - Panzer Elite Wirbelwind suppression increased.
    - Panzer Elite Wirbelwind Accuracy vs airplane targets increased.
    - Wehrmacht Stug and StuH improved vs British Emplacements and Command trucks (penetration increased, damage marginally increased).
    - Wehrmacht and Panzer Elite Goliaths receive camouflage similar to Fallschirmjager. When in cover and not moving, the Goliaths will be camouflaged.
    - Panzer Elite Infantry Halftrack health increased by 15.
    - British Casualty Clearing station requires 5 casualties to spawn a 5 man squad (previously required 6 casualties for a 5 man squad.)
    - Wehrmacht Stormtrooper MP44 upgrade available at Assault Phase.
    - Panzer Elite Sector Artillery duration increased to 130s from 90s.
    - Wehrmacht Panther main gun accuracy vs infantry reduced from .75 to .6
    - Wehrmacht Veteran tank top mounted MG does less damage.
    - US Pershing tank main gun penetration increased by 30% vs Panthers (0.5 to 0.65), approximately 80% vs Jagdpanthers (approx 0.22 to approx 0.4).
    - US Pershing tank main gun damage increased by 10% vs Panthers, Jagdpanthers.
    - Wehrmacht Mortar Smoke ability is available from Skirmish Phase
    - Wehrmacht Nebelwerfer recharge is increased from 60 to 90s, but decreases by 10s at each level of support veterancy.
    - Wehrmacht Knight's Cross Holders have their Panzerfaust ability available at the first level of veterancy.
    - Sherman Smoke upgrade reduced by 15fuel.
    - Panzer Elite Marder III deflection damage modifier reduced from .5 to .35. APCR upgrade to Marder III remains at .5 deflection damage multiplier.
    - Most tank guns, Bofors emplacements, have had their moving target modifiers improved vs Armoured Car targets (M8s, SdKfz234 Pumas, Panzer Elite 22x) from .6 to .75.
    - British 17pounder antitank gun accuracy modifier against moving armoured cars increased from .1 to .3
    - Wehrmacht Stug IV main gun accuracy reduced vs tp_infantry_soldier target type (British Infantry)
    - Panzer Elite 221 Scout car build time increased by 10s.
    - Bren Carrier receives small health boost when upgrading with Vickers MMG.
    - Tuned some stacking modifiers on British Command Tank veterancy abilities.
    - Wehrmacht Sniper build time reduced by 10s to 50s
    - Wehrmacht Officer build time reduced from 60s to 45s
    - Fallschirmjager reinforce cost reduced from 45 to 37
    - Fallschirmjager veterancy values reduced from 12/26/40 to 8/24/38. Fallschirmjager will gain veterancy more quickly.
    - US Bazooka penetration reduced vs Panzer Elite Hetzer front armour. Rear penetration modifier increased marginally.
    - US Calliope Rocket FOW scatter multipliers reduced. The Rockets will be slightly more concentrated when firing into the FOW.
    - US Calliope recharge time reduced to 80s
    - US Calliope Rocket barrage scatter tuned to fall more reliably around target location instead of scattering long.
    - US Calliope rockets do equal damage modifiers to tp_infantry and tp_infantry soldier
    - British Vickers HMG emplacement weapon range increased by 5m
    - British Vickers HMG emplacement sight radius increased by 5m
    - Mortar damage vs US and Wehrmacht Observation Posts and Vickers HMG emplacements reduced.
    - Infantry AT weapon damage vs US and Wehrmacht Observation Posts and Vickers emplacements reduced marginally.
    - British Command Tank veterancy values increased from 14/28/42 to 24/48/72.
    - British Cromwell Flank Speed ability increased in cost from 25mun to 35mun.

    Enjoy! You can expect to see this patch out on March 18th, 2008.

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    Is there anything in there that wasnt in the beta?
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    After (trying) to read most of it, I think all of them are straight from BETA.

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    wow....
    really, great work, applause!

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    I predict if they are even one day late with this patch, the Majority of the community will flame and whine about relic VERY, VERY, Badly.

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    - Players should no longer get disconnected from a game if the server goes down.
    I imagine this is going to make people happy.

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    No map changes made it in to the final. That's too bad, there's a number of maps that will quickly be deemed unplayable for 2v2 AT. The British HQ move breaks maps that are too focused on one area.

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    I agree moe, its a great change and should stop a lot of problems
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    Yeah agreed, though for those lvl 10+ like me, I don't mind for a lvl rating/point re start, though if you gonna make me start from the bottom, I would rather like to start fresh completely again with new stats etc, like all 0 0 0 0 0 wins loss disputes etc.
    Lvl 12 1v1 auto... need a mentor to 13+!!! :D

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    1 thing not mentioned in the log is the wehrmacht veterancy fixed? so that when you have bought veterancy for mortars, hmg42, pak 38, flak 88, nebelwherfers they regain the veterancy after recapping or is it sill missing? hope its fixed as its a major issue for wehrmacht. otherwise a great changelog

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    There were some maps changes.

    - Building moved on Hochwald Gap to prevent US and Wehrmacht AT units from getting stuck
    - Map balance fix on Hill 331
    - Map bug fix on Route N13

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    the humans/squads/men get the veterancy and not the mg or nebelwerfer or mortar, if it would be as u said then ur enemys squads had to gain the veterancy!
    (omg I hope someone understand it)

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    no, it's not 30 seconds earlier then before. It is 90 seconds minus 30 at vet three, or 60 seconds, which is exactly the same thing as it used to be.

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    well if you play wehr and buy support vet 3 and lose your then vet 3 mortar and recap it right now it will stay unvetted the entire game then so the change that have to be is that if you lose your vet 3 mortar and then recap it it should be vet 3 again and not unvetted for the whole game all other factions can get vet back to thier heavy and support weapons but wehr cant big ballance issue and this vet issue combined whit nebels nerf its to huge couse if you lose the nebel crew 1 time then you dont earn anything on recapping it if you have vet bought as it will still not have the current vet you have bought

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    It looks like all of the 2.317 changes were left out of this changelog. Hopefully it's just a mistake, as they were all good changes.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2.317 Changelog

    Gameplay
    - Removed some incorrect modifiers for Wehrmacht AT guns vs Wehrmacht tanks with armoured skirts
    - AT guns are no longer seen at range with Panzer Elite Tank Awareness
    - British Mortar Emplacement only requires two soldiers to recrew. Can be captured by two enemy soldiers.
    - Small arms fire does more damage to mobile British Command Trucks
    Last edited by Thinking42Man; 10th Mar 08 at 4:33 PM.

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    No discussion of balance is allowed in this thread.

    If you wish to discuss balance you may post in the balance forum after you have had some experience with the changes.


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    Well pretty much the same changes as were in the beta. A marked improvement, though still a long, long way to go.

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    I wonder how many undocumented changes are there. Patch 2.20 seemed to have a lot of changes that weren't listed.
    Complaining... is eternal.

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    It looks like all of the 2.317 changes were left out of this changelog. Hopefully it's just a mistake, as they were all good changes.
    I wonder why 2.317 was excluded...unless they just forgot to include it in the changelog. Can someone from Relic confirm this?

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    But the main question is... will servers be stabilized? :/

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    But the main question is... will servers be stabilized? :/
    well, i've never seen the BETA server going down in months. so, i believe it's fixed. "fingers crossed"
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    Hmmmm, need a bit of clarification please.

    Does this patch also coincide with everybody being switched over to the new reliable server?

    Or is still going to be just there for further tesing.



    Patch looks good, Bren Carrier gets quite a buff. But it did need it. (This is coming from someone who's never played Beta, couldn't get it to install properly.)

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    well, i've never seen the BETA server going down in months. so, i believe it's fixed. "fingers crossed"
    Not that it has been under a very heavy load, of course.

    Let's hope it can keep up with real demand just as well.

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    Okay, wow, awesome! I hadn't been paying too much attention to the CoH forums or the game itself since that nasty bad patch fiasco.

    A lot of the changes I'd been hoping for but never actually said anything about are in this list! Panther is cheaper, and has a longer-range gun! Defensive doctrine buffed! In fact possibly way too many Wehrmacht buffs! But who cares? In one week I'll be playing CoH again!

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    I welcome the changes !

    Lets hope, there will not be any "hidden" jokes like the 1sec delay arty or wrong working Vampire Halftracks...

    Oh, I almost forgot : I wish we can atlast install that patch without problems
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    Perhaps they starting QA before implementing 2.317.

    @bottenbreker: You can't say is fixed, cause to the lousy number of participants! The server was never under full load!

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    Just wonder why further Stug nerfs.

    Oh well. Maybe relic can speed things up and release patch on weekend ? ;p

    Would be nice.
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    1 thing not mentioned in the log is the wehrmacht veterancy fixed? so that when you have bought veterancy for mortars, hmg42, pak 38, flak 88, nebelwherfers they regain the veterancy after recapping or is it sill missing? hope its fixed as its a major issue for wehrmacht. otherwise a great changelog
    I dont get this. Surely the crew are the ones that gain VET. Not the weapon. How can a inanimate weapon get better than it already is???
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    I dont get this. Surely the crew are the ones that gain VET. Not the weapon. How can a inanimate weapon get better than it already is???
    look:
    1. You bought vet 3 for pios, mortars and mgs
    2. You buy a mortar (Vet3)
    3. It is killed
    4. You recrute your mortar with VET 3 pios
    5. Your new mortar has no vet and CANT GET VET!

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    These are BAD IMO:

    - Wehrmacht and Panzer Elite Panzerschreck accuracy at short and medium ranges increased.
    -Panzer Elite AT halftrack Treadbreaker ability had its range increassed from 32 to 42
    - US Supply Drop reduced in cost from 200mp to 100mp.
    - Panzer Elite 222 Armoured Car gets 30 health bonus when receiving any first level veterancy.
    - Wehrmacht Veteran tank top mounted MG does less damage.
    - Wehrmacht Stug IV main gun accuracy reduced vs tp_infantry_soldier target type (British Infantry).
    - British Vickers HMG emplacement sight radius increased by 5m.

    This one's the best IMO:

    - StuH 105mm does more damage to hedgerows.

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    I still say its better to have UNIVERSAL DAMAGE applied to all weapons and units, rather than having X-unit/weapon do less damage to Y-race's units and a little more to Z-race's units. Anyways, I suppose an explanation could be applied, but it just makes it difficult to explain to yourself why that weapon doesn't kill a unit as well as you'd expect it to.

    I hope these changes breathe new life into this game.
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    Good news, although if the QA testing is complete (as per buggo's patch status), why do we have to wait a whole week for the release?
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    who said q&a is done? no one, right.

    it's not through q&a till it is released, they might make a hold one or two days before and twiddle their thumbs a bit or work on soulstorm patches or whatever , but they're not gonna let a week elapse in order to let you suffer, pal.

    release imminent means nothing but it's going to be released somewhat around a given date, if they find something fucked up they're not gonna release it and release imminent is still valid.

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    - Wehrmacht and Panzer Elite Panzerschreck accuracy at short and medium ranges increased.
    If youd have been keeping track of things this is to balance out the acurracy ( or miss) nerf the schrek got

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    Hi everyone,

    The patch is still undergoing the QA process at THQ. Things are still well on track for the Tuesday release.

    There will likely be undocumented changes as the change log is quite extensive. Some items in the beta were reverted as it was a test bed for game play changes. The patch was created post-2.317, so those changes (if they were accepted) will be in the patch on Tuesday.

    Thanks,
    mukkel

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    Thanks mukkel.
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  37. #37
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    look:
    1. You bought vet 3 for pios, mortars and mgs
    2. You buy a mortar (Vet3)
    3. It is killed
    4. You recrute your mortar with VET 3 pios
    5. Your new mortar has no vet and CANT GET VET!
    As i recall the mortar gets the vet, but it is invisible.

    If you recrew it with vet 0 volks, then the weapon has no vet.
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  38. #38
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    All great, but as a Beta player I still have to wonder...

    Why no AT buff for Stug?
    Why no Jagdpather call in change?
    Why are americans still benefiting from British resources in team games?

    These were bruning questions that have been around for awhile. Some resolution might be nice.

  39. Company of Heroes Senior Member  #39
    Question for clarification.


    Is this the new AC HP calc's now. 220(base) + 30(Vet1) x 1.15(Def. Vet) = 288HP's

    The US M8 with a 50mun upgrade or "skirted" only has 300HP.

  40. #40
    I hope that means the DX10 crashes are fixed.

  41. #41
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    Question for clarification.


    Is this the new AC HP calc's now. 220(base) + 30(Vet1) x 1.15(Def. Vet) = 288HP's

    The US M8 with a 50mun upgrade or "skirted" only has 300HP.
    The M8's basic HP is 150. The M8 has more penetrating main cannon. The M8 can lay mines. The M8 is a US vehicle not a PE one.

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    or in other words you need at least 6-7 shots now (depending on dmg inflicted) to kill an ac. superb. meanwhile that ac retreats into the base gets repaired and kills your inf while your m8 gets an at grenade in his ass and a marder finishes him off.

  43. Company of Heroes Senior Member  #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Pine
    The M8's basic HP is 150. The M8 has more penetrating main cannon. The M8 can lay mines. The M8 is a US vehicle not a PE one.
    Moon, did you even read the OP you responded to?

    A "skirted M8 has 300HP!. Not "skirting" one makes them very fragile.

    The term US M8 does not indicate a reference to PE as far as I know.

    Unicous seems to have gotten the point. Yup, it is gonna be scary-ier

  44. #44
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    hmm im just hoping there hasnt been a brit over-nerf

  45. Dawn of War II Senior Member  #45
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    Hi everyone,

    The patch is still undergoing the QA process at THQ. Things are still well on track for the Tuesday release.

    There will likely be undocumented changes as the change log is quite extensive. Some items in the beta were reverted as it was a test bed for game play changes. The patch was created post-2.317, so those changes (if they were accepted) will be in the patch on Tuesday.

    Thanks,
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    Please try hard to document all the changes.
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  46. #46
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    It's pretty clear from the list of changes that they've done a metric shit-ton of work on this patch. Let's give them a break for a minute or two.

  47. #47
    Because it's going to be a lot harder for us to find out, if they aren't listed.

  48. #48
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    ANOTHER KEY QUESTION!!!!????? Relic rank.... got update aaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggges ago it was moving server or something? soooo wheres it gone? is it back up? is it going back up with patch? is it going back up at all??

    (alright maybe thats more than one question, but still all key)

  49. #49
    Nice changelog, best patch ever.
    I also would like to see RelicRank.com back up with the new patch...

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    Has this patch made any performance changes? A Finn told me that in the beta he noticed a big difference and overall the game ran a lot smoother then retail.

    Just wondered if this was just his own lucky experience or did any of you others notice a change in performance with the beta too?
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