[SS] CornCobMan's Fun Mod version 1.75 (07/05/2013)

[RMX]

DoC has Noise Dreadnoughts that I assume are from the FoK project. I'm guessing you won't use them until all of them are available, but it's a start.

Speaking of Slaanesh, Cylarne seems to be using the Keeper of Secrets in his Daemon race. Any chance to see it here soon or the permissions haven't been cleared yet?

[corncobman]

Yes, I've been wanting to add a new unit to justify uploading the jumbo art file.

I haven't asked Cylarne for the KoS yet but I will do.

[jONES1979]

I haven't asked Cylarne for the KoS yet but I will do.

You should ask Catwell for KoS, not Cylarne

[corncobman]

Ah, I'll get right on it.

[RMX]

I was wondering if that Hierophant that's been around lately was not enough of a titan to fit in this mod

[Cylarne_04]

Unfortunately the biotitan (point made)...

But I'm sure Corncobman can work around that. However Hierophants are 2x perhaps 3x stronger than Trygons. So it must be powerful + expensive.

[RMX]

Yeah, I know. Corb just doesn't do titans in this mod, so that's why I'm asking if he'd let it slide for this one.

According to Lexicanum:

Average Carnifex: 5.5m, 8-9 tonnes
Average Trygon: 7.1m, 9.7 tonnes
Average Hierophant: 15m, 50 tonnes

uh...guess not. Still, the Tyranid Mod Trygon strikes me as bigger than that. Well, it's not like Dawn of War is famous for being realistically scaled. In fact, the Ork Squiggoth in DoW should be around the same size as a Hierophant.

[Darknite]

we really like and enjoy your awesome mod, can you add small battle in the next patch? patiently waiting

[corncobman]

Small battle?

[Cylarne_04]

A wincondition that decreases the squad/support cap by half.

[corncobman]

Ah right.

That's easily done.

[RMX]

Can I ask for PoK's new Terminator models in this mod?

[Cylarne_04]

It would actually be more appropriate to do up those absent textures first.

[Darknite]

hey corn i played your elite training mod since it was release, i can really focus on the troops during combat, gives the beauty of the
char animations and fx, any plans of continuing it?

[RMX]

What missing textures, Cylarne?

[Cylarne_04]

@RMX: The ah green lines all over the hands I've noticed and some other equipment. Is it now updated? I'll check.

EDIT: Not properly textured. You will notice this in army painter and ingame. The new Terminator model is still quite awesome.

[RMX]

Okay. I think those are finished but I don't know if they're around for people to use.

[Cylarne_04]

I sincerely apologize, I didn't download 1.53 yet of POK. Yeah get those Terminators work'in. It is emperor time!

[RMX]

nothing to see here, move along citizen

[corncobman]

@RMX - heheheh that's pretty funny.

Also lol @ clusterfuck mod.

[RMX]

I find it incredibly ironic that I always come to your thread to report stuff that's actually from jONES' mod

[corncobman]

Anyway I might release the scar win conditions separately as it's really really small and easy to upload.

EDIT: Here it is. I don't remember if I updated the AI but I included the files anyway.

http://www.mediafire.com/?jpjyynff3y080sv


I have also been pondering whether or not to include the dynamic morale in some form. It will dramatically affect the balance of the mod so I want to ask if you would like to see it in.

So would you like a squad's maximum morale pool to increase with more squad members and vice versa - yes/no?

[RMX]

Hmmm...I'm a bit torn about this.

Pros:
+ Might be a cool feature
+ I find flamers being a big pain in the ass sometimes early game

Cons:
- Complex stuff (executing guardsmen might be a bit strange)
- mod loses interoperability with all the other stuff I combine it with

I think I could settle for middle ground: dynamic morale being a trait rather than the general rule. Have certain units have dynamic morale while others don't, like a penalty or a bonus depending on how it's used. Units like warp beasts would really benefit from such things.

[corncobman]

Right I've started work on getting the Keeper of Secrets in game. I'm thinking of giving it relatively low health for a relic unit but a few abilities and quick speed.

I'm thinking of some abilities that it would use and so far I've got:

Pavane of Slaanesh - does damage and morale damage (knockback???) over a wide area for a sustained period
Transfixing Gaze - renders an enemy squad unable to attack
Aquiescence - targetted squad is unable to use any abilities
Also an aura that makes nearby enemy units suffer morale damage and reduced movement speed

I'm also abandoning the dynamic morale idea for now.

[GrOrc]

Heh! Now KoS will spread across all mods. Do not forget to thank Catwell for it...

[corncobman]

Don't worry he will get credit as will you, of course.

[RMX]

I like the pavane and the transfixing gaze. Pavane is probably good enough without the knockback, specially if it's going to last over time.
Aquiescense's effects can probably just be integrated into transfixing gaze, so it makes a unit unable to attack or use abilities at the same time.

Morale damage and slow movement aura sounds a bit too much, unless the area is very small. Maybe if you reverse it will be cooler: make allied infantry cause more morale damage around the KoS and increase their attack speed/rate of fire (I don't know if that's possible)

If it's going to be a glass cannon relic unit I think it would be cool to give it a life-stealing ability (Slaanesh is all about eating souls ). Maybe something like the Archon's Animus Vitae, or an ability that makes it recover the damage it does for a period of time: it should be called Souleater, as it's apparently the name of the sword it carries.

[Cylarne_04]

@Corncobman: GREAT!

[RMX]

@GrOrc: have you worked on the KoS? I remember someone adding some animations and effects on Catwell's GUO. Was it you, too? I have trouble keeping up with who did what on this community sometimes.

[GrOrc]

To RMX. Yes. GUO and KoS Catwell's models have my additional work. In fact, I brought this models to the final playable release. Additional anims, markers, OE-code, AE-code, 2D-art (icons) were made by me. Now you can see my WHE- and WHM-files for this units in the my Titanium Wars Mod and some other mods...

[DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr]

Hey Corn, could you lower the volume of DE & SOB unit battlecries/death noises/engine noises? They're not the same volume as every other races units.

[corncobman]

Hmmmm I haven't modified the SoB voices in any way.

[RMX]

It's true that I hear SoB/DE battlecries too loud too often. Mostly the Archon and the Canonness "I will STRIKE YOU DOWN". Also, Chaos AI has an unhealthy habit of making two barracks early game, which makes it very easy to rush. Also, one of the games I played as Mark of Nurgle, my Chaos Lord died, I respawned him, but he didn't look Nurgly at all (He looked like Carron with those torches on his back), then he died again and looked like the Nurgle Lord again when I brought him back.

[Hollow]

@Corncob: Use the sound fixes I gave you for the Bug fix mod, it will surelly help a lot.

[corncobman]

@RMX - yeah the appearance of the Chaos Lord is randomised slightly

@Hollow - oh right, I'll do that if I can remember to.

EDIT: OK it seems that the file is no longer being stored on Mediafire. Can you re-upload it for me? Thanks.

[DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr]

I'm playing Survival + CCM + Nids, and have the Wargear floating Daemonhammer option on... now what? Does it actually work? I send my Archon (not Tahril, just the normal Archon) to it, nothing happens. I send my slave to it, nothing happens. How do I use this?

[PsykoTenshi]

OK it seems that the file is no longer being stored on Mediafire. Can you re-upload it for me? Thanks.

Which file? All three of the Mod package files (attrib, art and AI, via flashmirrors) are no longer hosted on Mediafire, but corncobmod_scar_winconditions.zip shows up for me. Here it is on another host if it's needed (not Gamefront because its upload feature got cranky).
http://filesmelt.com/dl/corncobmod_s...conditions.zip

On an extra note, uploads on Mediafire are capped to 200Mb afaik :/

[corncobman]

@PsychoTenshi - I was referring to Hollow's sound fix file that he sent me for the Bugfix mod.

@Dominant_Hunter - I'm not sure about the wargear - as far as I'm aware the wargear only works for the campaign hero so if the Archon doesn't have a name them it most likely won't work. There may be a bug there somewhere as the normal skirmish Archon is being spawned.

OK the attrib file has been uploaded so if you can't wait for the art file to finish uploading to play the new version (or if you like the thought of a pink box sucking the life out of enemy units) you can download it now.

Download the Attrib file here or download it here

Download the Art file here

[RMX]

Great. I really like the FX of the Pavane

Transfixing Gaze appears as Transfixing_Gaze in the tooltip

[PsykoTenshi]

gah... something inside me told me I was doing something stupid...

Related to version 1.70 of the fun mod, I'm downloading the art and attrib files this very moment, but my question is if I should wait for an AI update as well.

[Darknite]

TYVM wondering is campaign honour guards have a chance to be playable in skirmish? waiting for AI update and nids add-on too,

[Darknite]

played SM vs SoB but around 15-20mins im seeing many of tortured amp in my base

[corncobman]

You shouldn't need to wait for an AI update as the latest AI is already included in the Attrib file.

@Darknite - I don't think I will make the Honour Guard Squads available in the normal game. They screw with the balance too much and there's hardly any place to put them.


As for the Torture Amp spam - I'm imposing some limits on them (cap of 3, requires Haemonculus Lab) so they won't be able to be spammed so much.

[RMX]

@Darknite: If you're seeing a lot of Torture Amps when playing against SoB or some other race that aren't Dark Eldar, you're probably playing this along with Black Templars Kaurava Crusade.
Ask jONES about it. It happened to me as well.

[Darknite]

yes i am if he happens to see this hope he dont mind posting the tweaks up here for others to know too,
@ Corn thumps up to 1.70 texture, funny is am liking the orcs now Waaaghhh

edit: about the tortured amps issue, got the fix to it thanky RMX

[DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr]

I really like how in SSpro Piercing vision increases range killing power for the squad as well as make them detect, making it kinda like guide (farseer). Could you do that CornCobMan? Because that would be great!

Also does anyone know of any Archon models, like one with a faceplate on his helmet?

[corncobman]

Personally I don't think it's that necessary to make it increase the range power of the affected unit, considering that it's such a cheap ability. Its main purpose is to detect and the DE range power is strong enough IMO.

[DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr]

Yo dude the sound fix for DE (and SoB I think) works. But the Orks still have a unit talking too loud "We'll Move REEEEEEAL Sneaky like!".

[RMX]

I've done a hackjob with this mod's and BT:KC taskbar.lua files because combining both mods resulted in either the Fun Mod losing the Advanced building button for Tau or Black Templar Fire Support Crusader Squad not getting all the upgrade options. If everyone's fine with it I can just upload it here.

[Darknite]

thanks in advance