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    "National" Novel Writing Month

    www.nanowrimo.org

    I heard about this just a few days ago.

    November is National Novel Writing Month. It's something of a misnomer, as it is by no means limited to one nation - participants of every nationality are welcome.

    The idea is that starting Nov 1 at 0: 00 local time, you can start a novel. The goal is to write 50,000 words (a short novel) and submit it for word count verification before Nov 30, 11:59:59 PM, local time (or Pacific time, if that comes first). The idea is to aim for quantity, not necessarily quality, have fun, and above all, write. Most people never write a novel in their life - the idea is to give you motivation to do so, and at a good pace. Fifty-thousand words a month, translates to 1667 words/day - so if you can do 2000-3000 words a day - a few hours, but doable, you'll be fine and have room to spare in case a situation arises or the novel is longer than expected.

    It can be in English or other languages (anyone brave enough to try for DerKommissar's Hiigaran language?); it can be any genre; it can be fan-fiction. The novel itself doesn't have to be complete to "win", only be 50,000 words long, and started in November. Nor does it have to have to be brilliant or moving - in fact some participants take pride in their novel's badness. Just the sheer amount alone is an achievment - and it will help discipline you for writing, and serve as practice.

    Winners are listed on the website, get to print out a certificate - but most of all, will have written a novel. So, it's largely self-motivated. And, of course, there is no penalty for losing. While they take donations, the contest itself is free.

    While you can't write any of the textof the novel before Nov 1, you are free to create outlines, notes, lists of scenes - any supplementary materials that you'll need to write the novel without actually writing any part of it - before November.

    When you are done, and if it is still November, you will be able to submit your novel to the NaNoWriMo website starting November 20th for verification. The word count is done by a robot, and the actual work is unread, so if you want to publish it, you don't have to worry about copyright issues. (The contest works by the honor system, though the rewards aren't much beyond satisfaction anyway...)

    Upon hearing this, I managed to come up with an idea for a story that won't go away (curse my brain...). Since I'm also taking a creative writing class, I am going to use my attempted entry for my final project.

    Is anyone else interested/insane/inspired enough to go for a novel in a month? Anyone want to challenge themselves that much? I suppose we could have a competition at the end, or share our entries (though posting it would cause problems if you ever wanted to publish your entry).

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    I'm going to start writing something.

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    I'm up for that challenge. I wager I can make 5,000 more words than Hand and Ref, and not miss any days of work.

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    I'm finishing school soon, Bnonn. I'll have more time on my hands than a eunuch at the South Pole.

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    I've had writer's block for over a year now, so I think this is a little beyond my limited powers of expression.

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    Oh, I know Hand. I know.

    I'm just that good (;

    Hey, why is your custom title "Baldric"?

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    I've had writer's block for about a year as well, ionfish. And it's not exactly from a lack of ideas, either. But I know that if I don't do something like this, chances are I'll have writer's block for months, even years to come. I've found in the past that it's okay to rest for a few days up to about a month when writing a lot. But not writing for months...I know that I don't need that much time to rest. Maybe the pressure of a deadline and the fact that it will be graded will kick me into writing again.

    Or let me put it this way. I've tried doing nothing for about a year. It hasn't worked. Now I'm actually going to try something big. The worst that will happen is that I'll freeze up a few thousand words into the story and not write further - in other words, no different from the status quo. But if it works, at least I'll have written something.

    Besides, when actually publishing novels, doesn't one have to come up with a contract? I don't know enough about the process (what little I have looked into publication tends to involve short stories, which will come before the novels), but I've heard about deadlines and things of that sort. When one actually has a deadline, then one may have no choice but to have to write (or substantially revise) a novel in a relatively short period of time. So, it could be good practice should anyone ever wish to publish (I don't know whether you plan on going down that road, ionfish, but someday, I hope to...)

    Of course, I can't force you or anyone else, though.

    Bnonn, so you plan on writing 5,000 words more than me? Ah, but maybe my words will be better chosen. (Of course, the only measure of "winning" is reaching 50,000 words, so I'm not sure what that counts for.)

    Actually, if I weren't attempting this for a grade, I might try one of several popular shameless padding techniques, such as:
    • Having my characters burst into song and write out all of the lyrics.
    • Having them read long essays or newspaper articles, which may or may not be relevant to their predicament. Repeatedly.
    • Incorporating homework into my story. For example, if my characters go on a quest, I can have them win a magic sword if only they can prove theorems from topology. They also get an ancient jewel if they find the period of the minimum energy transfer orbit between planet A and planet B around a 4 solar mass star, where planet A orbits at 13.3 AU and planet B has a sideral period of 4.6*10^7 seconds.
    • Describing everyday activities in excruciating detail
    • Using ultra long chapter titles (ex. "The Ninth Chapter of this Literary Work, in which Bob goes out for a coffee, reads the newspaper, including an article that will be reproduced here in its entirety, goes to work, is called to his boss's office, and will be forced into a confrontation, which may involve the possibility of him being let go because he slept on the job last Tuesday afternoon")

    If we do have some sort of contest between the novels, I would want two categories: one for the most original/bizzare form of padding, and one for the least gratuitous amount of padding.

    And, I think I'll quote from "The Greatest Adventure Ever", a work of mine in which I wrote something like 8,000+ words in 4 days, to give you a sense of how I truly view myself as a writer and the quality that results from my writing at those kinds of speeds:
    ...You might as well worship me now I’m so good!!!! Yay, I’m going to win the next Hugo, Nebula, and Nobel Prize for Literature, hurray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ...Because let me tell you something – these adventures are just beginning!!! Those who are smart enough to appreciate my work will read on, glued to every last word of this magnificent masterpiece of the English and most other languages, while the rest of you are probably too stupid to realize brilliance if it hit you in the head!!! Fear my wrath, you mortals, for I am the most godlike writer ever to have graced this tiny planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I did toy with the idea of revamping and finishing that story for this contest, but since it's already started, that kind of violates the rules, and I doubt I could make it long enough - maybe the 30k word range, but not much more. Instead, my work will be a part-fantasy, past science-fiction story that deals with, oh, just a bunch of things. Magic rings. Shadowy demons. Tunnels under towering black mountains that lead to the deep. A vast extradimensional machine. Time travel. The Universe as a fractal hypercomputational device. That kind of stuff. Oh, and depending on how the plot goes, there may be Vikings in it. It's all in good fun.

    Is anyone else interested in participating? I would ask Handarazuur and Bnonn if you wanted to actually do a contest or something, but I kind of doubt that 3 participants would be enough...
    Last edited by The Reflection; 19th Oct 03 at 1:24 AM.

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    Wow, magic rings!

    No one's ever done that before!

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    I'm not gonna attempt it, although it might be fun, I would rather use that time to work on my 3 other stories >_> (Quality>quantity)

    Originally posted by Bnonn
    Wow, magic rings!

    No one's ever done that before!
    Exactly

    Suggestion: Letters. Lots of letters...especially if you write it out AND have him erase parts midway through cause it doesnt sound right. And include the responces.

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    Have your novel include a senate character, who then does a filibuster (miraculously, no 3/5ths vote to stop them).

    Then sing a song and read the newspapers from the world in paper and off the internet in a wi-fi laptop. Then while reading from laptop, read from Bibles in various languages, surf the net and read everything pertinent.

    The key is to type it all out as dialogue. Lots, and lots of words.

    Then flop over, die and list a detailed obituary and a story about the funeral.

    Would that do the fifty-thousand? Or just twenty-five or so?

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    I'm going to do it, I'll share my exploits with you all if people are going to put their entries up here.

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    How's this sound for a short story. An astronaut, in the future, is the only one alive on board a ship that suffered a catastrophic failure and is now deadstick. The story would be his daily log, and the reader would see him slowly go mad with loneliness and knowledge that his death is inevitable.

    And Bnonn, Baldric was the sidekick in "Black Adder". How'd you get "Cynical Troll"?
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    A short story? Or a novel? Seems a bit thin for a 50,000 word piece to me.

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    I would speed up my progress and finish my novel for this, but I want it to be quality work. When I am done, it will be in hardcover and not digital format.

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    Oh that's sweet, can anyone give me a HW2 plot or something? I want to combine padding and non padding, maybe non padding for the most part then have a really long elaborate paragraph that spans seventeen thousand characters long, each composed of words no one really knows nor care to know, laced with erudite meaning that anyone can tell they have none if they can understand the words kinda thing.

    ^my padding sucks. I can't wait till december though, I want to see all of your 50,000 word stories. See, not read, mind you
    Last edited by Omi-kun; 19th Oct 03 at 8:19 PM.

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    Hand, I'm a cynical troll. I mentioned it one time, and "someone" (coughDyncough) thought this would make a funny avatar.

    You realise that a baldric is also a leather belt worn over the shoulder to support a sword, I suppose.

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    I have the story to develop into novel...

    ...but who will translate it from Russian into English?

    I think it would take twice the time of writing

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    This sounds awesome! Most novelists take months to write their stuff... I've always thought a novel-writing marathon would be fun.

    I'm in! And come hell or high water, I'm gonna have myself a 50,000-word work of padded art by the end of November, dammit!

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    hmmm....5 exams left at school....and november hasn't started yet = greatest adventure of fizzit the sentient mobile phone and hos cohort of genetically engineered animals and people as they travle through time and biff people in a great quest to stop the universe being eaten by a giant blow fly

    lol

    *shrugs*

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    Pursuant to people's encouragement, I may give this a shot.

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    Yay!

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    You're in because you know yours will look so much better than the rest of ours.

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    Pfft, speak for yourself.

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    I don't think any 50,000 word novels written in a month will have the capacity to put anyone to shame.

    That said, Jack Kerouac wrote On The Road in a month, as "a roll of paper typed as a single spaced paragraph 120 feet long"

    Anyone feel they have a potential future cornerstone of American (or wherever) literature inside them?

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    I'd volunteer, but I'm already working on a novel that I'm going to submit 5 chapters of to a contest so I can try and win a setup with a pro editor and possibly publication.

    You know, I'd probably put it online somewhere, but this is my brainchild and I'm too afraid that some rogue (not necessarily from the boards) will steal ideas or something. No offense to anyone.

    A potential cornerstone? I really hope that my novel(s?) will be that good. I don't know though.

    Hm...are you sure Bnonn's would be THAT much better than everyone's?

    Good luck all!

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    Hmmmm ... I think I will join in this, I haven't been to the officers' Lounge in a while, lucky I got good friends like Bnonn to let me know when things are happening.

    I think I will write about ... something ... (Very discriptive I know) it will be fantasy (Big surprize) and I think ... yes, it will be sort of a history for a char I have in another book (Combined writing) if Bnonn has no objections ...
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    I think I"ll try this. I've had this idea for a story told from multiple different angles and formats for a while, and I think I could definitely use it to get 50,000 words... Now I need to think of a plot... It's probably going to be something extremely wierd and dream-like, as I plan on the first one being a Stream of Consciousness type thing

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    I'm glad to see there are a number of participants here.

    F. Ramirez, if you're talking about who at the contest will translate your novel from Russian to English, the answer is no one. The word count is done automatically - it can't tell whether the words are valid English words, or if they're from another language, or if they're simply junk. As long as it's a bunch of letters with a space before it and a space after it, it's considered a word.

    (So, "fdsla aoew d293 iwla; iwo ajx qxxxil" actually counts as 7 words, even though they're just random characters).

    Remember, people, depending on your time zone, the contest starts either today or tomorrow. As soon as it's November 1, 0: 00 local time, you may begin. Those of you living in Australia and New Zealand (I'm pretty sure you live in NZ, Bnonn), you just have a few hours.

    Oh, and I just couldn't let this slip by without responding somehow...
    Wow, magic rings!

    No one's ever done that before!
    Wow, sarcastic replies!
    No one's ever done that before!
    Especially not you, Bnonn!
    Last edited by The Reflection; 31st Oct 03 at 9:21 AM.

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    I've recently come up with a mind-bogglingly complex plot, but the word count would probably run over 100K. Too bad for me.

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    Why? Just write it until it reaches 50,000 words, then keep on going!

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    Because the deadline is the end of the month, and I don't have that kind of time up my sleeve.

    I don't know how bad philosophy students get it, but I've got a ton of exams to write. Still, I think you'll like this one. The working title is Soul|Fate and it deals with fate, evolution and time travel. Trust me, it'll take far longer than a month to write.

    Are you going to submit an entry into this competition?

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    Essay-writing may impede my progress, but I'll give it a shot, sure.

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    Reflection owned me.

    Hit fire to respawn.

    gg.

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    Currently ripping large numbers of Jazz CDs, so I can listen to them while I write furiously from midnight onwards without having to fiddle about changing disks.

    :ionfish:

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    So far everyone has been revved up to write something good. Well, maybe not good, but at least decent and deserving of thoughtful review.

    I shall outdo all of you. My work will be so terrible that it will echo down the ages as a way to scare children.

    "Go to bed or I'll read that piece of crap written by Starfisher!"

    "AIIEE!"
    actual dialogue from the novel.

    This is speaking as someone who gets drunk, writes a thousand words of incoherent nonsense, and then forgets about it. When I find it a month later, I am very, very afraid.

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    Sounds to me like the problem is that you stop being drunk.

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    Insert from my novel, which is as of yet unnamed:

    "Fermi was right. And he was wrong. There was intelligent life out there, but there was nothing alien about what we found. We found the future in the past..."

    How's that for a teaser.

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    Hmmm... I'm torn between starting Ataran Awakening, and doing study for exams. I know which one I WANT to be doing, but that doesn't help much

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    Neil Gaiman's thoughts (as of last year) on National Novel Writing Month.
    And about fifty people have asked me to plug, or just wanted to know what I thought, about National Novel Writing month. The object of which is to write a 50,000 word novel in a month, on which getting to the finish line is more important than the content. I think it's a great idea -- anything that makes people who want to be writers write is a good idea. It's too easy to let your life slip away, convinced that all you need to be a writer is an idea. In reality, what you need to do is put one word after the other until you're done, with all the work and pain and triumph involved.

    Chuck Jones told would be artists to draw, explaining that "you've got a million bad drawings inside you and the sooner you get them out, the better". Raymond Chandler is reputed to have told would be authors that they have a million words of crap to get out of their system. And in both cases there's a lot of truth there -- if only because it allows you to keep going despite your technical limitations and inability to get the words or the pen to do what you want, and eventually find yourself, well, competent. And some of the words and pictures you turn out on the way can be pretty good too.

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    I prefer to think of it as the 'thousand monkeys chained to typewriters trying to reproduce the works of shakespeare.' It takes a long time and a lot of key-pressing to the final product

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    There is so no way I am ever going to get 50,000 words.

    Maybe 20,000.

    Maybe.

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    Bnonn, you can get to 50,000 words. It just takes time. It can't be submitted, but Daedalus is up to 25K, and that's between studying. If you want to do it badly enough, the time to do it will make itself.

    20K isn't that bad. It's a good-sized short story. You'll have to post it here when you've finished it.

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    Oh, I can make 50,000 if I want to. I have written a 130,000 word novel. But there's no way I will make 50k in a month. I work full time, and have too much else on.

    Btw, I cleaned out my inbox.

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    You know, I'd probably put it online somewhere, but this is my brainchild and I'm too afraid that some rogue (not necessarily from the boards) will steal ideas or something. No offense to anyone.
    That's exactly how I feel about some of my stuff.

    But wthell, this is for fun - if it's all gonna be crap (no offence) whose gonna steal it? That said, some of the crap might turn out pretty good :glances at ionfish - "I know you have a good track record, pal...":

    Yeah - I'll give it a whirl. I doubt I can get to 50k in what, 15 days, but hey, if the Chinese can get a taikonaut into space and back in a day, I think I can write a few long sentences...

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    I don't think I'll be doing this... I tend to get caught up in making my text beautiful, and getting everything perfect. That is to say, no padding for me.

    Though I just might be able to, given my rambling, long-winded descriptions of everything...

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    Why do you have long-winded descriptions if you spend so much time making your text beautiful? Beautiful writing contains nothing which does not serve a purpose.

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    Bnonn: He said 'beuatiful,' not 'good' nor 'functional.' It could well be he wants the novel equivilent of an art film...

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    You apparently did not grasp what I said. Go back to sleep.

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