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Anyone had any problems with strafing run in the beta? My friend and I were testing some things in a 1v1 and his strafing runs weren't working half the time. They'd fly by a random area and not fire. These 'drunk' strafing runs would refund his munitions after they left the screen. Sadly, I forgot to save the replay. I'll post one if it happens again.
#2
Sure you didn't accidently click Recon Run?
You are a funny little boy Panzer Jager. LOL this sounds like a phenomenon i watched sometimes too.
If you could balance brits in 2v2 you can start balance the pe in 1v1!Originally Posted by DrChengele
It sure is lonely being a p47 pilot. Downing some Jägermeister sure spices things up I bet.
This happens when the planes are discouraged by the PE base defenses. So in all reality, theres a chance Flakvierlings will stop your ability.
Hell, we don't see .30 cal nests thwarting V1's.
ImmortalBadger
They will do that if you lose line of sight for too long or if you have friendlies in the area. Bombing run will do the same thing and this has been going on since OF first came out. its happened to me a lot.
Losing sight and friendlies in the area has nothing to do with it.
Recon/strafe/bombing run can be aborted by anti-aircraft fire, so the PE base defenses sometimes forces them to abort.
Just another one of those hidden advantages PE has.
Was it called in near the Base Defenses?
Last edited by Tseng_Fox; 20th Jun 08 at 4:01 PM.
It doesn't matter if its called near the base defenses. Anti-aircraft guns have amazingly long range, on most maps the flakverlings will attempt to shoot down any airplane called from any direction.
Maybe its something to do with strafing run being more powerful against Panzer Elite infantry than wehrmacht. Not sure though.
Sounds just like a factional difference.
As stated it's likely that the PE base defences are shooting the plane which makes them go off target.
They really should remove the PE base defences ability to target aircraft. It seems stupid to me that airborne should be made less effective by PE getting free AA defences.
Seems stupid to me PE is made less effective by airborne getting 150 munition blob destroying planes of doom.
the AA defenses counter out that Wehr is more resistant to them and doesn't have AA defenses.
How is wehr more resistant? It seems perfectly logical to me that strafing run should do something to PGren blobs considering how effective they are grouped together. Although it is a bit shameful that PE are somewhat forced to blob.
Wehr is more resistant because strafe is unaffected by infantry soldier armor but is affected by elite armor. Wehr infantry also tend to have very high individual hp, which helps to negate the damage.
PE isn't forced to blob.
It just comes to a crossroad with 2 signs.
One sign says: Go over here if you want rangers to tear you apart individually and for riflemen to run up to your G43s and take them down.
Another sign says: Your men will get more EXP, less damage taken, survive against rangers, be able to use G43s and not be destroyed by rangers/commandos, possibly survive some arty if you are defensive vet, take less damage and suppression, and have some damn candy.
And yeah, strafing run with the elite armor thing.
#15
So you're saying that if PE wants to win they HAVE to blob?
Well gee, it's a miracle I can get wins.
And there is a point where a player is good enough that if they blob it's not a blob, or even a combined-arms group, but instead just a tactically effective fighting force in one specific area.
I WAS playing as PE, and trying out WW's as well, so I don't know if the AA was screwing with the runs. I've used PE a lot, and this is the first time I've seen a strafing run behave like this.
PE requires large amounts of PGs to be effective. Some people can't tell the difference between this and a blob.
If you are going with ranged damage domination (massed vet G43s) you need at least 3 of the buggers to properly deal with elite infantry. 4 is great, 5 is mostly over kill.
You need at least 2 squads of MP44s together to get effect out of them, 3 is great, 4 is mostly over kill.
I typically end up with 2 shreks, a G43, 2 MP44s, and sixth maybe.
The difference between 2 G43s and 3 G43s is that 2 rangers can't run up to the 2 G43s and kill them all 100% of the time. The difference between 1 MP44 and 2 MP44s is significant cause 1 squad will lose members on the way into the enemy but the other will deal the damage to make up for it.
How does this deal with strafing run ? You've got a whole bunch of the same *TYPE* of infantry all upgraded differently doing different roles who get a strafing run on them who break them and kill the entire PE elite infantry style of play.
Its no more a blob than running a tank and infantry together is a blob. It just happens to be a blob of infantry since against airborne vehicles are worthless.
Last edited by hashinshin; 21st Jun 08 at 12:43 PM.
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