The Dark Angels Mod - "Repent! For tomorrow you die!"

[horusheretic]

what would be the difference?

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The dark angels HUNT the fallen......

The fallen went to the side of chaos but after the battle they knew they had done wrong.....

Dark angels want to hunt them all down and make them repent so then they can remove this stain from their honour.....

gameplay wise

[thudmeizer]

Now you know why I love this backstory stuff to DA and Fallen.. translating it into a fully playable faction in DoW1 is incredibly exciting.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

gameplay wise
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Fallen Angels trying to get to the emperor to absolve them?

Dark angels are hunting them down before they get to the emperor?

[Imperial Honour]

gameplay wise

You've never studied the rules\fluff for Cypher have you?

Bah! He's the king of multi-branching tech tree races if you want stay with the official rules. Besides the fact that he can never truly be killed, so no fluff problems with him "dieing" in DoW and then being rebuilt, as he does not die he just mysteriously escapes from the battlefield wounded or unhurt.

But if you want to be really creative the fluff is so open for free'ish creative expression that you could have an awesome array of new units and the like. Fallen Jetbikes anyone? , the fluff doesn't mention whether the warp storm dragged any tanks and such used by the Fallen during the battle on Caliban but the fluff is open enough that you could believe so.

All shall be reveiled soon...

[Fallen Angel Ez]

I have cypher, for my chaos army

[potemkis]

I have him too, but he was used heading up his own faction (or working alone) in Kill Team scenarios.

[B-C Vesuvious]

for anyone who missed it there is a post around here somewhere outlining the fluff about cypher that i posted.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

Will look for it but i have read all there is about him. I even had the white dwarf issue that did an article on him and the fallen angels

Any more screenies?

[B-C Vesuvious]

not just yet, next screenies will be textured units so no idea how long it will be

[potemkis]

Can't wait, B-C- keep on rocking with the mod guys!

[RW-Retribution]

Dropping in to say WHAZZAAAH!!!

I should be up and running again shortly. Hope you guys missed me!

[horusheretic]

gameplay wise
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Fallen Angels trying to get to the emperor to absolve them?

Dark angels are hunting them down before they get to the emperor?

that's not a good reply. it doesn't really answer the question. vague answers from someone that doesn't know?

if you don't know or cant answer appropriately then don't answer with vague condescending answers that "expect" you to know the background behind the race.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

that's not a good reply. it doesn't really answer the question. vague answers from someone that doesn't know?

if you don't know or cant answer appropriately then don't answer with vague condescending answers that "expect" you to know the background behind the race.
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What are you on about?

I just gave you two scenarios that could be used for the game........

[horusheretic]

but it doesnt tell you exactly what the fallen themselves would bring.
a scenario is just that. a scenario. a little story based around something.

do they bring new units, or a different playing style?
maybe they are a cloned DA race.

[B-C Vesuvious]

Not to butt in to someone elses argument, but the Fallen would surely bring in a new play style. Remember,some Fallen are tainted by the warp and have an inescapable blood lust for the DA, some of them are only hiding from the DA, meaning they would act more as independent units than as a squad, and Cypher has that nasty ability to teleport away if near death that could be translated to in-game teleporting to you base via an ability to prevent his death. That being said we are NOT producing a Fallen race to coexist with the DA.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

but it doesnt tell you exactly what the fallen themselves would bring.
a scenario is just that. a scenario. a little story based around something.

do they bring new units, or a different playing style?
maybe they are a cloned DA race.
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B-C Explained what i was trying to get at. Thanks B-C.

[Chaplain261]

Welcome back Brother RW-Retribution, good to see you and good luck with your work man.

[B-C Vesuvious]

EVERYBODY REJOYCE!!! GREENY IS BACK!

[Fallen Angel Ez]

Yay

[potemkis]

I've seen both "types" of Fallen while playing TT. I think there was an army list somewhere where a squad of Fallen could be taken as an Elites choice with your IG army (they're passing themselves off as normal space marines), however- if Cypher was with them, any IG troops within 6" of them had to take Animosity Tests every turn I think. Then there was a listing for the Fallen that had given themselves completely to Chaos which could be taken by ANY Chaos force as an Elites choice- I'm not sure if he caused Animosity there as well though. I think anyone besides Chaos Space Marines had to take Animosity Tests if Cypher was around. I think the book I had came out like very very early 3rd edition and within 2 months was obsolete...

[Raven Spire]

@ potemkis, your right about the Animosity Tests till the point where only if you took Cypher and a fallen squad as allies for imperial or eldar forces, chaos didnt unless you had a special character i think.

Theres three types of fallen armies than were mentioned in a prelude to the one you were talking about before GW scrapt it, the last rules for the fallen were found in the 3rd edition dark angels codex under rules for Asmodai.

First was taking the fallen as an ally where you can have up to to units of fallen with or without Cypher taken as elite choices that could take anything form the dark angels armoury.
Second was a pure fallen army which followed the normal rules for space marines apart from they had access to imperial guard units in there and the squads could take what ever they liked from the armoury.
Third was a pure fallen army gone to chaos where they could take anything from both armouries but were limited to what gifts of chaos they could take.

[Lleman]

@Raven Spire: strange thing, i own most codices and 40k publications and i cannot remember any official army list/rules for the Fallen, not even in Index Astartes or in side articles, all the way back to the Codex: Angels of Death.
Out of genuine interest, can you give the exact references (book, edition, year, page) for the rules you're mentioning (and '3rd ed C: DA' hasn't got it, really) for it would be interesting, if only for both the fluff and possibility to adapt to homebrewn rules, which i'm sure many 40k-ers would find useful.

Sorry for derailing the thread a bit further, guys, but this info might come in handy.

[potemkis]

I know there was a White Dwarf article about it (I can't remember which one- it was a few years ago), I could have sworn there was something in the old Chaos Codex, and I *think* one of the old Chapter Approved books (unfortunately, not the one that I have). The one I have has the vehicle design rules as well as make-shift Sisters of Battle, Necron, Armoured Company and Death Company army lists. If that's any help to *cough cough* other army mods...

[Lleman]

Hmm, actually there's something in the 3nd ed C:CSM, but it's related to Cypher, allowing you to field one squad -only- of Fallen, equivalent to vet CSM, using the same points & options, but benefiting from ATSKNF.
Clearly nothing the likes of what Raven Spire mentioned.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

I really want to start a fallen angel army now

[ravenmorpheus]

Wooot! Yeah. Greenphearo is back. And he's got a very nice model for one of the "special" units we have in the mod.

[Chaplain261]

Can't wait, going crazy here with anticipation.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

Can't wait, going crazy here with anticipation
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Me tooooooo!

Go dark angels mod team!

Now that old members of the team that went AWOL are back, how far along is the mod?

[Chaplain261]

Yes it is indeed a great day for the Holy Adeptus Astartes Chapter of the Dark Angels.

P.S. sorry if I spelled something wrong, GO DARK ANGELS MOD TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ravenmorpheus]

Now that old members of the team that went AWOL are back, how far along is the mod?

How long is a piece of string? As has been said before, code wise it's 99% done, but the 3d aspect needs some work if the team want it to be polished and to an acceptable standard so that the team don't get ripped to shreds when they come to release it.

The DoW community can be very critical.

But Greenphearo is back to carry on the great work he's done so far so hopefully the team can get the mod moving on the 3d front again.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

Any chance of an estimated date or month? The longer the better

[ravenmorpheus]

Well I estimated last year the team would have the mod out before DoW 2 came out...

...so if you really want an estimate I estimate that it's gonna be out when it's out. That's the best and fairest estimate anyone can make at this point.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

Okay great thanks

[potemkis]

it's gonna be out when it's out

We get that alot, but ya know- the longer they take, the better the mod will be. I'm not even on the mod team and I'm getting tired of seeing "When will it be done?" (No offense, Fallen). I kind of enjoy seeing the eye-candy that all these teams are laying out before us. That's the fun of waiting for a mod. Especially when they look as good as this one does.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

I don't mind waiting. Wish i knew how to help but i know nothing about modding or have the packages to even help this mod.

Anyway the longer the better!

[ravenmorpheus]

Yeah it'll take a while but we will get there.

Don't forget to bookmark this page or join up at the forum over at revora (link in my sig) I get the feeling Relic are trying to reduce the support for the DoW 1 modding community even further, the main forum has been limited to 2 pages of threads I noticed today.

[potemkis]

the main forum has been limited to 2 pages of threads I noticed today

Dang... I thought it was just me that noticed this. No worries- they can't quell the masses!

[Gorb]

Don't forget to bookmark this page or join up at the forum over at revora (link in my sig) I get the feeling Relic are trying to reduce the support for the DoW 1 modding community even further, the main forum has been limited to 2 pages of threads I noticed today.

Huh? What forum has been limited, and how?

[Imperial Honour]

BTW - How come this forum has been pruned down to 2 pages of threads only all of a sudden?

It hasn't been pruned to 2 pages of threads, its just that within the last month only 2 pages of threads have been made. If you set your preferences to show threads all the way back to the "beginning", "last year" or even just "last 2 months" you will notice that more pages of threads appear.

Unless you adjust your account preferences on the forum all threads older then a month are normally not visible. Its an inbuilt forum feature that comes standard with just about all forum software.

@Gorb
He wanted to know why the Adept Mech only had 2 pages of threads, not my fault people only posted 2 pages of threads.

[Croaxleigh]

And for those playing the home game, don't forget that Relic doesn't control these forums. Especially the Adeptus Mod forums, given their complete lack of modding tools for Soulstorm. *smiles*

(Obligatory "This is not me speaking officially as a Moderator because this isn't my section" note.)

[ravenmorpheus]

Yeah ok my bad. But I've always had more threads, some older than a month, visible despite having my account preferences set to forum default.

Still just in case don't forget to make a point of bookmarking the teams forum at Revora.

[Croaxleigh]

I think that the forum default may have been changed within the last few months(ish); I know that the default posts-per-page were, but beyond that I can't remember.

Either way, though, I'm always excited to see progress for the DA mod. Dark Angels is one of my favorite SM factions, to the point that the chapter that I created for my first mod was a DA successor and the Dark Angels have their own branch in the Depth of Heresy tech tree. *smiles*

[potemkis]

Where do you change that setting? I did a quick look, but couldn't find it- then again, I only half-looked too...

[Croaxleigh]

User CP> Edit Options> Thread Display Options (halfway down the page)

[Fallen Angel Ez]

So back onto the DA mod now. Any information about whats in store for this great mod?

[Bloody_Hawk]

What Fallen Angel said

[ravenmorpheus]

Yeah what Fallen Angel said.

Oh wait I'm still privvy to information so I should know.

Haven't noticed any more info that could be communicated since you last asked Fallen Angel.

[Fallen Angel Ez]

Okay fair enough. I am that excited i have started collecting models again. Just bought thirty terminators. thirty space marines. Azreal, Asmodai and Belial.

Got to love ebay! Just need paints and glue

[potemkis]

I got the glue, models, and brushes- but my paints are about half dried out...

[Richter]

May wanna stop all the off topic stuff guys...