--COMMUNITY MAP PROJECT II --RELEASED !! DC hotfix

[fuggles]

OK - I'll try and be more precise. On my kronus map when I had a world owned chaos daemon it caused ctd's until I removed it.

[Nerdsturm]

This is the crack thing I was talking about-

The base texture at the end got switched to a concrete texture at some point, so that has to be either switched back or covered up.

[Jaguar-Lord]

yep, that part of my map looks like shit imo. i'll redo it.

[Ira Aduro]

So, what's the plan for making the minor tweaks to the map? I'll be gone for a week (honeymoon) August 16th, so I should probably fix my stuff before that.

[under_score]

@ Ira Aduro:
Congratulations! In advance (or possibly you're not jetting off for a few weeks and you're all ready married, in which case:Congratulations!)

@Jaguar lord:
Congratulations! For organizing this motley crew of mappers to make something, which if all pictures and feedback is to be believed is awesome, though it must have raised your blood pressure some :P .

@Mappers:
Congratulations!

[fuggles]

Hi gang, it looks great - I strongly believe that the FoK crash is caused by world owned units such as the IG and Chaos ones on the map. Might just be units, but it might be buildings too.

Congratulations Ira!

[Jaguar-Lord]

'Im waiting for some more feedback, say that alpha test session run untill next sunday 11.08.2008.

you got until this date to make all the test to see mod compatibility and report to me.

@Fuggles : i don't want "belief" i want FACTS. to the test when you got time and report.

congratulations to you Ira, you have nothing to tweak anymore, i'll take care of the last map layout modifications, the only thing you have to take care from now if your Wife. period. i don't want to see you back here for the two next weeks.
Sincerely.
Jaguar-Lord

[Ira Aduro]

Hey, don't kick me out yet. Wedding is still 2 weeks away so I've got time to fix the negative cover, or at least look at it and see if there is anything I can cut.

[fuggles]

Right, well as mentioned I don't have a DoW playable PC until September. Yesterday was an exception, so don't wait for feedback from me.

Facts:

In my kronus map, FoK would cause CTD's 100% of the time when there was a world owned horror on the map. This was resolved by removing the horror.

Deleting all of the in game objects will allow the game to run with FoK on.

The SCAR of this map will not be mod compatible.

End facts.



Basically, the thing to do is delete every object on island 8, load FoK. If needed delete the next island, 7, load FoK. etc.... but I have not the PC to do this with (Or we make it non FoK for release, or just non FoK fullstop)

[NeCoHo]

Hm... Maybe we should leave everything the way it is, as JL said, this isn't going to be tailored to work for mods. Maybe if we include instructions on how to make this map compatible for FoK, and any other mod it's having trouble with, we can save ourselves lots of work. If people follow these instructions to the letter, there should be no problem with online compatibility.

[Jaguar-Lord]

The SCAR of this map will not be mod compatible

this alone makes the work to makes the CMPII mod compatible a waste of time.

As i said it before ; i won't do anything to be compatible with a mod.
If someone want to waste time doing it, good, he'll then have to recode the scar and implement it on the map....good luck !
i wont spend any energy on making this mod compatible.
If someone want to make a cubewar-mod CMPII, let be it.

we make the DC version
then the SS version and i'll be moving on another project.
You'll do what you want after that.

@Cage Crawler : is the website working and could it be used to upload and store the map?

@Ira : green light to fix the negative cover. be quick .

[Ira Aduro]

Fuggles, I'll make the map FOK compatible once the map has been released to the public. (supposing the mappers are cool with that). I'm wondering if you can make the SCAR FOK compatible? If so, I can fix the map and you could fix the SCAR.

But for now, just DC then SS.

[fuggles]

It's very easy to make this map mod compatible, you have to basically add the commander to the list. The caveat is that if you add a commander which does not exist such as say the black templar commander whilst playing DC, or any SS commander whilst playing DC then you get a SCAR error.

[bloodthirster90]

I apologise for my recent absence. My net had been knocked out for a bit. I'll get right on testing, see what goes down.
Will we be setting up an online match so we can all test it?

[Jaguar-Lord]

looks like the mapteam is having a rest....

i'll implement the scar little by little but there still no loading screen, ni icon and no minimap....

there is still work to do.
if someone want to do it please do because i wont, I have done my load of the work and it is not yet over, others have to work too.

[fuggles]

for the SCAR you can import the SCAR markers from my test map, which should take the sting out of it.

I'm afraid that I am unable to do the minimaps etc owing to the PC situation and you've seen my attempt at a loading screen

[NeCoHo]

I'll do an icon/minimap, if I have some time free later on today.

[Ira Aduro]

Jaguar - you got the revised map I sent you? The one where I took out some negative cover?

[Jaguar-Lord]

yes i do.
i'll be very busy for the next week, i hope to have some free hours to make progress on the CMPII.

[Ira Aduro]

I played the map a few times and didn't notice anything else unusual. I'm sure I missed stuff though.

[fuggles]

So... did NeCoHo do the icon and minimap? What's the next step? What are we to do about a loading screen?

Questions, so many questions...

[Nerdsturm]

Tbh it only takes a few seconds to do icon/minimap, so just so long as someone does it eventually its not something to stress over.

As for a loading screen I remember JL was working on one a long time ago when it came up before. I don't think he ever finished though, so I figure its anyone's game to do one if they want.

Sorry I haven't been able to be very active, I'm moving into college on the 14th so I've been rather busy getting stuff in order.

[fuggles]

Jono's video would be welcome too as we're coming up to the final hurdles.

[NeCoHo]

I didn't, and still can't. Whenever I try to open up ME it crashes as I try to do anything. Sorry.I haven't gotten around to un installing it, and next week I will have almost no time to do anything (Band Camp. Not like the Movie) Sorry about that.

[Jono]

Im still working furiously on a video, seen as summer holidays end in 5 days

Loads of other stuff to do but this takes priority XD

[Ira Aduro]

I think we need someone to step up and do the ocean and underwater parts for us. Once that is done I think that's all the texturing done.

btw - this next week is the week I'll be gone. Hopefully we can get everything polished and ready for release soon.

[fuggles]

Do you need anything underwater beyond a basic texture stamp?

[Jaguar-Lord]

not really, the coral reef decals will be good, if not i'll send you some others i got in stock there.
a good trick is painting a gradient from the shore (almost white) to the deep water (deep/darkblue) then aply the decal.

[fuggles]

That will be spare time above and beyond what I have... sounds like a big job. I can maybe spare an hour this weekend.

[fuggles]

Wow...my first DP.

I can't help but feel that this map has completely lost momentum. There were 9 of us who made this map - SOMEONE must be able to push on.

I'll have my PC back in 2 weeks, although I'll have very little spare time so it will take me about that again to finish the coast lines.

I will see this finished - if no one else will do it, then can someone please send me the final versions and I'll finish it when it gets done.

[Jaguar-Lord]

Welcome in the wonderfull world of the no-doers !! see what happen when nobody crak the whip: NADA.

don't worry Fuggles, i'll be at home soon
we will finish this. droper and loosers be doomed !

edit : looks like everybody is else on hollydays, else honeymoon (worste excuse ever... ) else not here or not having computer available (must be sending message via a drum or something.) we still have some free time before us.

[Skeletalowl]

i'd be glad to help if need be? :-) if you want anything JL just PM me :-)

[Recsant]

Nah Fuggles Is Sending his reply with smoke signals.

[Jaguar-Lord]

seriously:
i'm waiting for the CMPII team to be availabe again, everybody has a right to fresh air, we will see around mid september who is still around here.
Off course i'd like to have some news of the team members but people are free aren't they?

[fuggles]

What is it that you want from the team specifically?

As of next Saturday I have my DoW PC back, so if someone sends me the latest file before then I will crack on with coast lines and whatever else needs doing (unless you fancy starting that JL?)

[Jaguar-Lord]

this week i'll get back home around the 27, i'll start implementing the markers from the file you sent me and see if it works.

[Ira Aduro]

I'm back and ready to get this thing done. So, if the water section needs some work I can do that, or whatever else needs to be done and is within my ability to do.

[Jaguar-Lord]

Hi Ira,

seems you have the last version of the map, please go for the completion of the sea bottom and shores, it would be great.
then send the map to me and to Fuggles.

JL

[Ira Aduro]

Ok, I'll work on it and get it to you by the end of the week. (Gotta get my computer from the friend who is babysitting it)

[fuggles]

Woo-hoo! Great work Ira - link seems good so I'll grab the file Tomorrow.

It is my belief that following the alpha, no-one else has any more thoughts on things that need changing beyond what has been stated in this thread already.

I think that all that needs doing is:
Add a warpgate to Jack's area
Fix rocky outcrops around map edge
Fix bugs identified by the team in this thread
Add SCAR and check it works (and over LAN/Internet if possible)
Add minimap/icon/loading screen
Create Installer

I'm ready to put this to bed this weekend if possible, just let me know what needs doing and it will be done. In the case of a loading screen, I can't guarantee it will be done well... but I'll do it anyway! Possibly a montage from the map sections... even Rocky had a montage.

However, it will be on GIMP so that may take some time to learn.

[Ira Aduro]

oh, I forgot to mention I fixed the rocky outcroppings at the edge of the map.

[fuggles]

Still work needs doing on the coast lines and especially back of JL's area and the south of mine. Also the south of mine needs either an impass or a more obvious crossing.

I await JL's instructions so as to not duplicate work.

[Ira Aduro]

JL's cracks and spikes need doing but I figured he would attend to that himself.

[fuggles]

so... got a bit bored. Done a bit of tidying / editing - I'll send to JL and see what he thinks.

EDIT - just looking at the first CMP loading screen and it's just text talking about the map, the contributers etc. I think we should follow suit, describing the vast troubles we've had and also the stargates.

[Jaguar-Lord]

hi guys; sorry fo the lack of news but...rl stuff rules
i just saw Fuggle pm stating that he get the scar implemented and have done some change on the map.

I want to thank you Fuggles for what you have done for this project, coding the whole teleporting thing was a big chunk of code chopping and folowing the directions i gave you was not the easier thing to do. And now you completed the job by implemeting the map with the code and mandatory things to make it working:
THANK YOU FUGGLES !!

i'll take care of my area and polish the map tomorow afternoon; i intend to have this finished around monday.

see you later.

as for the loading screen well....you know what i think about it.
(i got a nice loading screen though but not "a-step-by-step-wargate-guide-for-the-dumb" style )

the minimap needs the gates to appear clearly on it. I might make one if i'm in a good mood.

JL

[fuggles]

I was thinking of just drawing on a thick light purple line where each of the gates is. If the mood doesn't take you then send it back - I need the distractions

[Ira Aduro]

This is great news!

ps - are we the only three working on it now??

[Jaguar-Lord]

yes, looks like ...i was thinking of a private "only-three" release...

but maybe Jono is still making the trailer, dunno.

[fuggles]

Package it up with the installer would you JL? Ira hasn't seen that, so he'd be a good test subject (bwahahaha).

EDIT - don't thank me too soon JL - I'm testing the SCAR and realise that some tweaking needs to be done. If you send me the map I'll do the minimap / icon and get the SCAR running smoothly before sending out for final tests.

[NeCoHo]

I'm still here, except my Map Editor is almost non functional. Looks like I'm going to have to re install Dark Crusade... dunno why. The install disc is being hard to find... I'm really sorry about all this. I mean, as of now I can't do much of anything.