Homeworld 3 Sands of Time

[Whisper2Me]

actually the whole modding team is comprised of me and moleman. And doing everything by ourselves is quite difficult. I have university and he has school too. SoT will be on the backburner

[Emperial]

Real life comes first mate, I completely understand if you want to get on with your studies -or seeing as how you're at uni- getting straight up drunk! Good luck with the mod all the same, I look forward to it.

[Moleman]

Im actualy at a trade school at the moment and computer networking here is extremely tight and almost everything transfered is questioned and punishable, i can only mod on the weekends however during ym xmas break i will be picking up alot of the slack from my end but for right nwo a good chunk of the work has been Whisper2me and I

[Whisper2Me]

Just letting you all know, that I do believe this is it for SoT.

We are done, I have taken interest in other things besides HW 2/Modding. I cant help but feel that the HW2 community is thinning out. Less and less people visiting the forum, less and less new members, or new content. However, if HW 3 ever comes along, i'll jump back on the modding wagon, Until then I'm going to work on other projects.

I will still come by on the forum, post, help etc. If anybody needs anything from the mod just ask, if you need help etc.. just msg me.

Concerning my creations, they are available for use as long as you contact me before you release them in your mod.

I will see if moleman has time to separate all the ships, so that they can be individually downloaded.

Cheers, good luck and have fun.

[Wintermute]

Thanks for all your hard work.

[Tristan Sjet]

Damm, This was looking really good




................................S'jet out....................

[chris80502]

Whisper, I was curious if any of the models you made earlier in this thread are available specifically things like the deep space mining station, the gun turret platforms, transport frigate - or any of the other ships based of HW concepts.

[Bowkers]

A little hasty of me locking the thread, didn't notice chris's question. Reopened for Whisper2Me to answer the question regarding assets. Any spamming of this thread in the meantime will be dealt with.

[Whisper2Me]

Hey, pretty much anything you saw so far Is being released. You may feel free to use it chris, hopefully you can put it to good use. I have lost some of the work when my pc was reformatted However, any requests that you may have for me to model/texture I will do so since I did tell you long ago that I will give them to you. Time to honor that promise

Also, the last release of SoT, has the Titan mothership in it as well, just isn't scripted in the starting fleet, there is also the Hiigaran dreadnought in there too.

Thank you Bowkers for unlocking the thread for me to answer the questions. You may feel free to lock the thread now if you wish.

Cheers

[JAL-18]

W2M saw this thread for the first time today and just wanted to say I love all your purdies! Great job!

[Ultraxwing]

Now when you are releasing the source of all the models/objects, are you going to make a final release, or are you going to just hand us the models? because with what you have now i could probably make a final package, i would just make it releasable. in a .BIG format is all or .SOT format. you know Sand of Time format. its completely up to you, or are you going to release a playable version and the models?

[Railgunner2160]

Could you send me that old Dreadnaught mini-mod? I always wanted to play the single player with it......

[Whisper2Me]

So in the spur of the moment, I started modeling again. Been going on a crazy modeling spree.

Started working on the Taiidan. I have decided to make their race a little different then the rest. The Taiidan will have a mobile refinery, which converts RU's into CP's (Construction points). Their capital ships will also utilize a new concept that has been running in mu head. All cap ships will be powered by "cores". You can make a cap ship, but until you transfer a core into it, it is useless. Basically a gun turret. All cap ships will have a moving part that separates to dock the Core.

In any case, enough Jibber Jabber

First HC Concept





For this mod to stay alive, I cant do this all by myself. IF you want this mod to live, just apply. I need an animator and a hodder/scripter. In the vary least, I need a guide on how to make animations if nobody can help me do them. I have looked over the net, cant find a good one.

Cheers

[Overmind5000]

Great Lords of Hiigara... I want one!

[Talros]

Damn, that's nice ! I'm pleased to see your new work.

[Pouk]

What's the difference between RU's and CP's? Is there different value or even diferent use?

You say gun turret, so capital ships without cores do fire and defend themselfs or are completely inactive?
Will there be any other use for the cores? (for example eject the core before ship destruction so the core can be reused.)

I think that the core docking animation shouldn't be hard. It's practicaly almost the same principle as Pride of Hiigara side door, except instead of capital ship family it will be for new core family, you could probably use the same madstate with just slight change and the animation itself is pretty simple.

BTW no one wants to see this mod dead.

[Whisper2Me]

Thanks for the positive feedback.

Perhaps I should have explained the idea of cores more.

Your Collectors can hold almost double the RU's in their storage. They take the RU's to drop off points. (refineries) Their RU's can be used to make fighters/corvettes/frigates.

You can changed 2RU into 1CP. However, Taiidan capital ships cost lest CP then other races.

The cores only give propulsion to ships. If a ship is without a core, then the ship can only use weapons, nothing else. Cores provide shields/propulsion. When a ship is destroyed, the core is left behind. If the other team steals your core, they can dispose of it for a hefty amount of RU's.

Its in your best interest not to lose cores as they take long to build,

[Pouk]

In your picture you have Tiidan instead of Taiidan.

[Whisper2Me]

hehe, yeah I realized that. =) Sadly, I had already uploaded the image, and didn't feel like going over it again


I also started on the carrier concept. Its meant to have some offensive weapons. Inspired by the Titan-Naam Carrier I made from Talros' Concept drawings.

I will post it a bit later. Rendering right now....


Edit:




Low LOD, goblins aren't added yet.

looking for a hodder!!!

[MatthCoFreak]

I can hod if you want, however I don't have as much free time as I would like too (I'm already working for 2 HW2 mods and 1 Freespace mod ).

PM me if you want. As long as I have UVmapped meshes and a global idea of where the hardpoints and dockpaths are supposed to be, this shouldn't take a long time.

[Djodar]

hey Whisper2Me about animations i can do them well i think comes out working at least.

[Pouk]

I like this one, I am looking forward to your Taiidans.
What are those hi-poly circles and what are those 4 things on the carrier front bottom part and the 3 cilinders on a front top of the cruiser.

[Whisper2Me]

MathCoFreak and Djodar, I will PM you when I have the textures completed.

@Pouk. The circles aren't too high poly, just added smoothing to those sections. The 4 front extensions on the carrier front bottom are Resourcers docking points. 3 Cylinders on the Heavy Cruiser are Shield Generators. The shields last 2minutes with a 4minute cool down. The subsystem can also be destroyed.

[Djodar]

if the parts of the ship are done with the modeling part i can do the animation. it doesnt require the ship to be uvmapped and textured

[Whisper2Me]

okey, I will have them to you by tomorrow, or late tonight if that is okey?

edit, Also, somebody was asking for the Dreadnought Minimod.
http://www.filefront.com/14929481/Dr...t_DEV_V1.1.big

I have a few versions of it, I'm not sure if thats the final. IF the ship is glowing on the outside when it fires, I will re-upload the other version...

[Baroness]

very fine ships

[Djodar]

hey Whisper2Me are you uvmapping the ships right now? im hopeing you have saperate obj files fore the meshes and one with all the meshes in the right place. i dont know if you can saperate the parts into different obj files when youre done with mapping. what modelling programm do you use?

[doci7]

Glad you've hopped back aboard the HW2 modding train. I really like these new models, but I find I have to comment on the rather humorous fact that both new Taiidan ships have big targets on them.

[Djodar]

haha now you mention it...

[Whisper2Me]

Hey Djodar, Im going out of the city tomorrow morning. Wont be back for a week or longer. I also have to moleman and speak with him, I believe he right now doesn't have a internet connection where he is.

The target is there so that it reminds you that they are the enemy

[doci7]

The target is there so that it reminds you that they are the enemy

Ha! As if we would forget. At least, I hope we wouldn't;

[Pouk]

It also could be a core chamber, but for that it's maybe too far from the core entrance.

[Whisper2Me]

It was meant to be a shield or gravity generator. Im not sure if I will keep it. lol

[Pouk]

I in general don't like those circles on ships of some existing race, because it makes me feel like the author has just a lack of imagination. (Which definitely isn't you case, I didn't said that)
But because this isn't an existing race, or it is, but it has changed and developed over the years, there isn't any reason not to keep it.
You said you want to make them different and this makes them exactly so. Those new Taiidans are so beautiflul odd, that I thing it fits there.

[Djodar]

i will be here when im needed. waiting for action
hmmm now that im looking at the heavy cruiser again i must say that i dont know if the enginenozzle will follow the animation... we will see about that.

[Grid111]

wow man just saw some vids of you mod on youtube damn that look amazin

[Djodar]

yea thx but i hate uvmapping/texturing... cant get the hang of it.

[Moleman]

so i spoke to whisper2me and i guess ill be squeezing my self back onto the modding team after dec 18 sometime due to the main fact of x-mas break from school, hope im wlcomed back

[Whisper2Me]

of course you are welcome back you tool. It was too quiet without you around

[aquemnun]

see, modders have a very rare state of mind, subtlety is nonexistent, and humor can extend to potentially every asset of our work. welcome back moleman

[Bowkers]

Whilst it is of course pleasing that Moleman is getting back to modding, I dont want the thread spammed with rubbish which I have already had to deal with in this thread.

[Gloryfinder]

Hey, I'm interested in joining this project because I think it has a lot of potential.

I personally write music as a hobby and have a decent amount of experience doing it. If you are wanting your own soundtrack to add to the originality of the game, I would enjoy attempting to write it and giving it a "homeworld" feel.

Like any good mod, writing good music also takes time, so just inform me with your decision of whether you need music for the mod or not and I'll get started.

[NumberZero]

I'm really happy you guys are still making progress. I always look foward to the updates of the work on this mod. I find it inspirational and allows me to keep working.

[Djodar]

im still here guys. still would like to support you with animations.

[Tekanako]

Hi guys, I've got some helpful back story information that should help:

Theories about Progenitor Megaliths

Masada
http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/File...markered01.JPG
http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/File:RC_Masada.jpg

Masada is located in between the 2 Vaygr Tribes of the 3 Clan’s Alliance & the 3 of Sulr. It is most convenient that this Mega station is actually on the Gate Network, which probably means that this was a relay station for Kaolo Gate. For 10000 years this station broke into smaller pieces of debris, until in the year AHL 155 the Hiigaran Kiva Pahlava 1st Task Force was investigating the network route to Kaolo Gate, then they came across this Station. The Daiamid council deemed this as a secret & several Shipyards & Naval Ships were sent to repair & secure this ancient Derelict. Masada became an important rallying point for the allied forces in the 2nd Beast War.

The History of this Derelict goes back to the Civil war in between the Progenitor factions known as Abassid, a part of the Emperor’s Assembly of Lords that turned against him and lead a revolution to free Bethsidea Society. While the Bethsidea were led by their Emperor, who wished to see the powers of Imperialism come to the golden age, their flagship was known as the famous ‘Sajuuk’, named after one of the previous Emperors. Masada was one of the very important Relay Stations that were operated by the Abassid in the Civil War. Masada became a floating hulk after the Progenitors were forced out of the Umayyad galaxy due to a T_MAT incursion.

Mountain
http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/File:RCmountain.jpg

Mountain is located in the Bethsidea Keeper Zone, it was one of the greatest Shipyards deployed by the Bethsidea, spanning from one end of a system to the other, that is why it got its name ‘Mountains’. After the fall of both the Bethsidea and Abassid this ancient derelict became one of the greatest Keeper hotspots in the Umayyad galaxy. The Combined Taiidan-Vaygr-Hiigaran fleet came across this derelict in AHL 235 after the 2nd Beast War started. Mountain is comprised of nearly 1000 docking and building facilities as well as a Inter-Galactic Hyperspace Drive.


Stone Ship
http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/File:RC_rough01.jpg
http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/File:RC_spaceport.jpg

In the 3 Heithbyr Turanic regions they tell of a Stone Ship, one that looks similar to several Progenitor ships. When a Raider group came across this derelict Convoy they overestimated the Derelict. While they were un-armed dozens of Movers launched from the Progenitor Convoy and they ambushed them out of the blue. All of the ships were destroyed, but they were able to send out an emergency Probe sending out a warning signal to all other ships.

In the past these ships were heavily armored, fast & very well defended. These convoys could hold 40 Fighters/Corvettes & an extra 20 probes. The ship was destroyed when it came across a Bethsidea battle group, and yet the crew was evacuated and the ship was kept intact to drift in space. A dozen of these Convoys were also found in the derelict of Masada Relay Station, floating around nearby several pieces of the station.

[CyberneticRaven]

Whisper2Me, your message quota is full, could you clear it out please?

[Tekanako]

Ok, I may be a puny kid & I may not be a part of the team anymore, but I have this link, & I will continue to post:

http://tekanako-the-first.deviantart...-SoT-148667632

May I note that the pictures above are not the one you want. You want the ones down below, this battlecruiser does look as if it's the normal Devourer class ship but the design has evolved from that.

I've now scanned the Vaygr fighters quick sketches on to my computer and they are on deviantART.

http://tekanako-the-first.deviantart...-WIP-149397979

[Whisper2Me]

Not to be rude, but I do not recall you being a part of the team, ever. Also, as stated in the other thread, we are looking for 'solid' and well 'developed' concepts, and those 2 links you provided are not that we are looking for. I would appreciate it if you stopped posting concepts for a while, as we do not need any at this time.

[Tekanako]

I'm surprised to say this, but I surrender and I agree to your Ultimatum.

[Ringleader]

Say Whisper, what sort of concepts are you looking for? like specific ships? I think Tek had some good ideas, especially the orientation of the corvette, I think he should make them larger and more clear though, like pick one of his minor sketches to blow up into a full concept, I do this sometimes.