[v3.1] Back to Basics for v2.602 - New version release! (2013-03-24)

[Ozzy32]

Don't have Cross of Iron installed no, I'll have to look at it though, must of overlooked it when I was looking through the list because I don't recall the name.

[Celution]

Ozzy, do you got Back to Basics working now?

[IrisDane]

Bug Report:
Your art file for the US veterancy level 5 has the same art file as the 4th.

[Ozzy32]

Yepp, just got it working actually...hmm...I have the gold edition but, the CoH install wasn't from the gold, it was my roommates...I ended up reinstalling it so I had both games from the gold edition together so he could use his serial key..and..that seemed to work, if it was a coincidence or not I dont know..but we're about to play a match, I'll tell ya what I think! Thanks for the help

[Celution]

Hmm, I noticed that too, will be fixed in v1.06.

[Opeth]

I just played a game against AI and i could not attack my opponents mortar teams. I mean, how the hell did that happend? Not even my team AI attacked them. They just walked across the map and dropping bombs face to face with a 30 cal squad and the MG's didn't even return fire. I had no ''crosshair'' when i moved the mouse over with a selected squad. :\

[Kyle243]

Nice skin choice, similar to mine. lol This looks good, going to give it a go!

[spaede]

i d like to add someting about these über mortar team bug. Same happened to me just like Opeth mentionned ! Just to check how tough theses guys are I used 25 pdr shells and even the demo Churchill s charges and all were killed but one withdrawing to its HQ. Then no matter I threw at them no way to get rid of them !!!!

ps Game was vs AI

[Celution]

Darn! I thought I think you guys are talking to the PE Mortar Team? If so, then I forgot to change a small bug, that makes them invincible. I can upload the files alone, but this will be at least tuesday if not wensday.


By the way, some new cool stuff will be added in v1.06:

- M18 Hellcat (Armor Tree specific off-map).
- Tigers with Tank Commanders.
- Staghound (I think Royal Engineer Tree off-map unit).
- Schwimmwagen (no idea where to put it, I think off-map unit).

Thanks to Xalibur and mostly Lethal Dosage for helping to get the M18 Hellcat and the Tiger Commanders to work.

[GenZhukov]

Hi there! I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I the mod appears to be crashing the game, four times out of five Awesome when it does work tho.

Last game I played was on Lyon (the map with 3 bridges down the middle in a city. Three bots. Game lasted for a couple of minutes and then froze, although the game sounded like it was still running ; dam pioneers telling war stories.

I have read the other posts and I know you said it was the Relic servers, but just to be sure I have thrown in a 'Warnings log', might help clear this up. Thanks for your time and effort, to all the team!

Hope this is not overly tedious, but tried again, thought everything was working well, but once again I got a message saying 'RelicCOH has stopped working'.

I am totally ignorant as to interpreting these logs, but the error appears to be slightly different this time. Thanks again.

Oh, and incase it helps, the only time the mod hasn't crashed was playing with the Allies. With the Wehrmacht I get the shortest games and with the Commonwealth I (appear to) get mid-length games. The first log is playing as Wehr with 1 Wehr bot against 2 Allied bots. The second log is playing as Brits with 1 Allied bot, vs 2 Wehr bots. Both logs are on Lyon, cos that map rules

Any other info needed please ask.

[Celution]

I can assure you that it isn't the mod. I can play full games with all races. It's the relic server, because the servers can't handle so much online players.

Although I noticed these things in the first warning log:

23:10:51.34 FILESYSTEM -- filepath failure, path does not exist 'Improved\Locale\English\Data\'
23:10:51.34 FILESYSTEM -- filepath failure, path does not exist 'Improved\DataSoundEnglish\'
23:10:51.34 FILESYSTEM -- filepath failure, path does not exist 'WW2\Locale\English\Data\'
23:10:51.45 FILESYSTEM -- filepath failure, path does not exist 'WW2\DataSoundEnglish\'
23:10:51.45 FILESYSTEM -- filepath failure, path does not exist 'WW2\DataSoundHigh\'
23:10:51.45 FILESYSTEM -- filepath failure, path does not exist 'Improved\DataArtHigh\'
23:10:51.45 FILESYSTEM -- filepath failure, path does not exist 'WW2\DataArtHigh\'

Maby make those folders on the locations they are mentioned.

[Opeth]

Darn! I thought I think you guys are talking to the PE Mortar Team?

Yepp! It was the PE
Thanks for looking into it. And looking forward to the new release.

[GenZhukov]

Just wondering, is there a path or some method whereby you can force the game to not log in online?

[Celution]

Pull the internet plug out of your computer, then start the game with the dvd inside the drive.

Here is a preview of the Tiger Commanders, I'm not sure if the M18 Hellcat will be included becuase it has alot of bugs, which i don't know how to fix, I have to ask Lethal Dosage for that. If he doesn't know or Xalibur, then it won't be included, becuase I want only perfect things.

Tiger Commanders

[Waffen SS]

I was wondering where did you obtain the sounds from? Are they from a particular mod?

[Celution]

I took them from BotB. Ask them where to get it.

[Lethal Dosage]

A Bergetiger with a Tank Commander? Quite original that is.

[Celution]

Yeah, I like it myself too. Someone in the tank has to spot the wrecks. Altough I removed the Recover wreck abilty, because it looked very weird when a small crane lifts a Panther wreck. But I made that the Bergetiger can build several defences.

[newBAUS]

You could add an assault ability to the Bergetiger, like it goes point blank to a trench or something and drops in a huge satchel charge, kinda like the Petard (many German engineer vehicles were actually used for this). Maybe you could just make the projectile invisible so it goes up close then BOOM!

[bloocobalt]

Can you make it so Fallschirmjagers do the house infiltration and paradrop? Make house infiltration more expensive than paradropping?

[Celution]

Ok all, I found out what causes the mod to freeze, and kill Company of Heroes.

Download is at the main thread post.

I found out it was the Axis Aid station bunker that causes the error. No further details.

I will upload a new version of Back to Basics tonight, with the fix, Tiger Commanders, and more.

[Gamerisin]

@Celéstial:so this is going to be another version,we can expect more changes I mean new features?or just a little re-balance??

ps:sorry I don't get it,the new version is available on first post or you are gona upload it?!

[Celution]

v1.06 is downloadable right here, or at the first post. It has re-balancing changes, graphical changes (skins), and some new stuff in it.
These are:

- Tiger Commanders.
- Opel Blitz Ambulance (buildable from Krieg Barracks).
- Airborne infantry now have standard different weapons in the squad, but still can be upgraded with thompsons or recoilless rifles.
- For the Rangers the same thing.

I'm sure I forgot something, but you'll see that ingame. I'll upload some pictures of the graphical changes soon.

[JKB]

That pioneer looks like a zombie......(screenshot)

But its a very good mod

[Gamerisin]

@Celéstial:I like your mod a lot lol,but I'm curious about how did you make a tank commander for the axis side,or adding the brit machingun emplacement to the LGF(Luftwaffe Ground Forces),as well as adding different tipes of vehicle crew,I mean having for example,in the mortar halftrack you made one soldier with volks cap and the other with SS helmet may I know all this please???

btw if you don't want to tell me with a reply send me PM,please I must know or I will go to your house when you are sleeping and wake up you and beg to tell me !!!

[slugget2000]

cannot download 1.06 from filefront

[Celution]

Now you can, I removed the old v1.06, because there was a bug with the panzer crews (blue boxes ingame). I uploaded a new version. Look first post.

[slugget2000]

fine downloading it now great mod

[GenZhukov]

Hi again Celestial, I was irritating (probably) you before about the mod crashing the game. I tried your advice and followed your recomendations yet I still had random crashes. Rather than keep at you I just stayed quiet and now I see that there is a new patch, I am glad! It's still downloading here, but hopefully this has fixed the problem.

I will report back if there are any other problems. If you are fed up of whinging gits like me, feel free to say so Thanks again dude.

[Celution]

Yes, the crashing game was caused by the wehrmacht medic bunker. There was an error with the medic that spawns when you upgrade it. So everytime a CPU, you or a friend builds it, the game freezes and crashes.
Now I fixed it.

[col.sanders]

Great mod , I especially like the wehrmacht defensive emplacements. For the wehrmacht defensive doctrine , in the dig in! command , it also mentions slit trenches ,but I havent found any build feature for them. Was it a typo or do you plan to implement them in the future?

[Celution]

Yep the Slit Trenches and the 88mm flak howitzer were previews that I made. The trenches will come the 88mm howitzer not.

[DMz]

you may want to consider toning the artillary down, it tends to wipe out hqs plus a couple of surrounding buildings in one barrage & decimates heavy armour groups in one barrage, the caliope is on on drugs or somthing .

if not at least allow the off map units such as pershing or jagdpanther to be brought on again once destroyed.

apart from that is very good, and fun to play.

[Opeth]

Nice that you have found the crashing error.
Is there anything new with the AI included with 1.6?

[Celution]

I got a small update for what will be in the next release.

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What will be in the next release:
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- Henschel Bombing Run
- T17 Armoured Car for Americans
- Schwimmwagen for Wehrmacht
- Commonwealth Sniper
- Commando Jeep will have unique abilities, like the Kettenkrad, and can capture points.
- new Tiger skin for the Tigergruppen Tiger (the ToV tiger skin)
- Panzer Elite Armoured Car can be upgraded with Logistic thing, so t can secure territory, but can no longer do overdrive.
- New skins and icons for some units.
- Shocktroopers and Fallshirmjägers can build Trenches.
- Alot of bug fixes

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What may be in the next release:
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- Reworked Command Trees for all Factions
- A new faction: Canada
- British plane attacks.
- British mobile HMG and Mortar teams.
- Real bonusses for American officers (Captain, Sergeant)


Hope you enjoy it.

[Kyle243]

Canada! Good idea! I thought about making each doctrine a faction with individual doctrines, if you want to use that go ahead, it would be great!

[tyler4171]

celestial if u want im working on adding the ability to get on the back of tanks if u want me to send u the sherman and the ones i am working on i will.

[Celution]

I'd love that Tyler4171, If you want you can rejoin the team again?.

[tyler4171]

yes please im also looking into trying to find a way for the crew to stop lagging about on the back (u know jumping around)

[Kyle243]

How did you manage to do that? (People on Back)

[tyler4171]

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=202244
a Tutorial by Bonte

[Captain Trek]

I have a question... Is this mod compatible with the single player campaigns? For reference, the Blizkrieg Mod by Xalibur is (almost) completely compatible with all three campaigns, while the Battle of the Bulge mod isn't even compatible with the American one...

[Tempe]

You seem to have made a lot of changes what I made in Afrika. I didn't see any mention of an M3 Grant/Lee but having one ingame would be brilliant.

[Celution]

Yes it was a plan, but first I lost Raizan from the team, and now I have no contact anymore with Playmobill for over half a year now... He was working on a Jagdtiger (search the thread), but I never had any e-mails back from him.
I'd love to see it too. But if he has the model I can learn the OE (well he can animate them himself along with skinning) and Model Exporter, but then I need models first.
I hope that he will return soon.

[ejg3855]

Is it possible that we can have a zoom out a little more?

[Celution]

I added that in a previous version, but I removed it because when you zoom out alot you loose alot of the beauty you see at close. I can upload a add-on if you want?

[ejg3855]

I zoom in and out alot I love the detail but also like to be able to see advancing troops more at a command level.

[torenico]

Im going to give it a try but

I need OF, because Blitzkrieg and N44 mod requires OF.. and i dont have OF

[Celution]

@ejg3855: I'll upload a add-on for you.

@torenico: You need OF for this mod. (as for most mods)

[pippaman]

i like my emplacements skin!

compliments for the mod on the paper i like the way its done

good luck!