[1.1.2]Eldar Mirror, two high-level build orders used

[ViS]

I started this Eldar mirror using my regular mirror BO of Shieldlock, 2x Gu, Rangers into a Falcon and Fire Prisms. I didn't expect to see Stellvia's anti-'Nid (ironically, only good against SM unless the 'Nid is your average Warrior abusing prick) BO being used against me and, having seen how destructive buffed Shees are, pretty much shat my pants at it. Little did I know, my BO actually annihilates Stell's one in a mirror (kind of expected, in hindsight). Mistakes were made on both sides (major ones by me, losing two Gu squads and a Ranger squad... Jesus...) but the game is still fairly entertaining and educational, if not a very poor example of high-level play.

My BO

Gu, 2 gens, Rangers, gen, Champion's Robe, Merciless Witchblade, Battle Equipment, T2, Heart of Darkness, Falcon, T3, Fire Prisms (Yes, it's so linear that you can follow it to T3 xD)

Stellvia's BO (Only use this against SM)

Gu, power node, Shees, gen, Armour of Fortune, gen, Doombringer, gen, T2, Shee upgrades, adapt

[SteinerNein]

Uh, ViS, if you're going to say this is Stellviax's BO might as well do this:

i use 1 shees supported by fortune+doom.

1.using 1 shees 1falcon vs mass marines http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar......ls&id=70349

2.using 1shees 1rangers 1 falcon vs mass marines
http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar......ls&id=70350

beated that ts38 sm guy easily 5-0 and an ork player ranked on top4 too.

but i think it would be much more effective vs nid for some reason. cuz i made this strat to beat nids. there are some strong points of using this strat. maybe i can post some replays of that MU and inform the strong points later.

i can say one thing 'dont worry using shees vs nid, none of your elite shees will be dead by spore mine's explosion when it is served by fortune.'

And I disagree, there are many players who use Banshees at the top/high level against Nids.

[ViS]

That's because most of the top 'Nids on the ladder are silly little Warrior spammers. I had a word with a friend earlier and what he said made a lot of sense. He plays 'Nid and is doing very well in the ESL. He also pointed out that the build would also be useless against a dedicated SM anti-Elf build but I've yet to test it myself so I'm sticking with my experience for the moment. I have no reason to doubt him, though so I'm currently trying to find a decent SM to play against.

[Gungalley]

What is a dedicated SM anti eldar build?

[Ryouichi]

A shatload of ASMs maybe? Their jump does rape... And when you reach critical mass vehicles aren't a problem either.

[SteinerNein]

No, a dedicated anti Eldar build -> Mass Tacs last I heard from ViS but as Stellviax points out -> banshees will win.

This is about tier 1 dominance btw.

[ViS]

Shees will win in T1 but not when ATSKNF kicks in. By that time, they'll have plasma too so your Shees are forced to retreat as they can't fight them at ANY range. I'm not sure how it works since I haven't seen it used but I do trust the person who's been explaining this to me so I'm in the process of hunting down someone to test this with me.