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[Total Conversion] Killzone - The Helghan Rage

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    [Total Conversion] Killzone - The Helghan Rage

    And yet again, it's me with another project. Starting off with a huge interest in the Guerilla Games product Killzone and its sequel, I began to draw up unit lists, tech trees, hundreds of conceptual images, and now I feel it's plausible to begin the project.

    Being a total conversion, I have to redo everything, and as Killzone is Sony and Guerilla Games' IP, anything and everything they say is law and if they want me to stop I will not hesitate to do so. I will improvise several aspects of the modification, however most will remain true to the games art assets.

    All of this material belongs to Sony and Guerilla Games.

    The races:

    Helghast:
    A bitter, secluded race of humans, born from the ashes of a death world. Strong, martial and heavily militaristic, they rely on elite infantry and non stop assaults.

    Interplanetary Stragetic Alliance:
    The military arm of the UCN, they are the defenders of free space. Relying on Guerilla tactics, they are fast moving, lightly armed and need to have cohesive tactical control in order to work properly.

    The Team:
    Heretic
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    Nyyti
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    Last edited by Heretic; 30th Jun 09 at 3:15 PM.
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    Mate, you seem to have an internal reactor going at full output.

    I avow not knowing anything about Killzone but since you have good informed tastes (well, so far ), i'm interested to see what will come out of your digital hat.
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    Ah wow.. yer a modding machine? This one is quite ambitious to pull off.

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    Looks amazing! From the look of the unit list you're going to be knee deep in modding for some time. Can't wait for more progress!
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    christ heretic, how many projects does this make? btw sounds really good, though im confused on a few things in your list.
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    Five for Dawn Of War, eight if you include the three teams I am also working on.
    What are you confused about?

    EDIT: ISA unit list:
    Last edited by Heretic; 16th Mar 09 at 3:53 PM.

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    my little confusion is that the shock trooper has only a pistol and i found that weird. otherwise it all makes sense to me.....cept for how your gonna do squads but tht'll be revelaed later on. lol and jeez man how do you do all of that?

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    The shock trooper will have access to other weaponary, starting out as a generic squad, but you can upgrade it with weapons to suit the situation.

    In regards to squads, the combat in this TC will be fast, brutal and small scaled. Ideally, this would be suited for DoW2 more, but well..yeah. The squads would be small scale, five being the maximum, and tanks would be minimal and deadly. Also weaponary would be a lot more...potent.

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    I really liked Killzone for the psp, seeing this as a TC for DoW... I think I'm excited. I will await patiently for any updates on this mod. I wish you the best of luck on this.
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    Mmmmmmmm, even more ambitious than The Horus Heresy mod, which is still uncompleted until now
    Doesn't meant to be sore, but I've seen several too ambitious mods which abandoned halfway

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    Paleskin, it's not that ambitious. Also, the Horus Heresy mod is still running strongly, and to be fair, I won't be stopping modding anytime soon.

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    And how about Sony and Guerilla IP ? I think that is the first thing to deal with, so u won't received cease and desist letter from them at the middle of your mod's progress

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    If they contact me with cease and desist, then I will do so. I have recieved no word from them about not wanting me to do this mod, even though I did contact them prior to the creation of this thread about it.

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    paleskin, you'll get farther reading opening posts properly. I quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic
    Being a total conversion, I have to redo everything, and as Killzone is Sony and Guerilla Games' IP, anything and everything they say is law and if they want me to stop I will not hesitate to do so.
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    I loved the original Killzone and Killzone: Liberation. I'm practically addicted to Killzone 2 now. I was really hoping someone would start a mod like this and wow

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    @Kresjah, yeah, I read that part, well, maybe I'm being a little bit pessimistic, but large company tends to give their answer at such a late.....timing

    @Heretic, I like Killzone too, I hope the best for your mod then

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    Indeed, but his quote also takes height for that.

    And Heretic, as always, whilst I know nothing of the Killzone universe you can always ask me if there's anything you need an aid on (and I'd imagine the rest of us at you-know-where).

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    Heretic your forget the ISA Exosuit and The Helghast ATAC
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    Definately a good idea Heretic, Im quite a fan of Killzone so I'll let you know heres one fan you'll have till the end.
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    Definately a good idea Heretic, Im quite a fan of Killzone so I'll let you know heres one fan you'll have till the end.
    same here

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    Wow, good luck. I will cetainly be downloading this one if it's finished!

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    Insight into current progress:
    - Internal coding build is 75% finished
    - 3d assets are slowly being worked on, and unwrapped.

    Models produced so far:
    - Helghan Jetbike
    - Helghan APC





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    awesome =), but as Mhgges said what about the Isa exosuit and helghast ATAC?
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    ATAC will be included in some manner, exo skeleton will not.

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    I see, pity. I see some units from the first killzone that was strangely absent in killzone2.
    like the jetbike.. awesome that =)

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    I can't wait to slaughter some ISA scum in mass!! >

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    i think he does a hundred project at once so he doesn't get bored of them.
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    Looks like an awesome project, I was going to do something similar for CoH, although seeing as it is not entirely mod friendly I might work on this with you till relic releases some tools, or find a more user friendly RTS engine of equal strength.

    I like the jetbike, although the APC looks a little bare? Like a box that has been modified only slightly? Here is an example of the Helgast APC



    One more question is the game going to be mainly based on the new models form KZ2 or the original one with additions from the second game?

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    It'll be a mix of the two. For the APC, it's almost exact to the design of the first variant. I may switch to the newer one, however.

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    Can't think why i missed this thread! Hope it all goes well.

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    I have created a post for further help and interest in the mod at the killzone community forums found here: http://killzone.com/kz/_ns:YVByb3h5L...0_/forums.psml

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    Hey guys...just wanted to help you guys out for this game...im REALLY good with RTS games and i have ALOT of experience with them also....i can help by telling you some ideas and weapons/classes that i bet MOST people would enjoy and some Tweaks or if ANYTHING at all that would help you guys out...Thx and look forward to helping you guys out

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    This mod is going to be a wet dream come true. Kind of ; )

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    hey guy's i've Officially joined the Team to work on this...

    Look forward to helping you guys out on this AMAZING project

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    Some conceptarts for the tease!



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    Where can I get one of those : )

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    First of all; here's a link to our forums: http://z3.invisionfree.com/Killzone_...ex.php?act=idx
    Bit bare at the moment, but more will be added.

    Secondly, here's several vehicle renders, currently in the unwrapping and animating stage.





    The Helghan tank was quite simple to make compared to the second render, which was...utterly horrific to make, but in no way tedious or boring.

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    I'm in awe, Heretic, at the work on this. I've just begun a TC, and only now realise the enormity of what's going on behind the scenes. If I come up with anything useful in it, I'l be sure to let you know, if it can make you job that bit easier

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    would love to help you but i think i'll have my hands tied trying to get BfG rolling along whilst you're off over here galavanting and being a super-modder xD plus im not a Killzone player at all
    that said im keeping an eye out and if you need the maps done just send me a PM with the basic plans for them and ill let ya know if i have time (i really wanna test out Dark40k's advanced ME)

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    For the love buttons tell me this mod is still alive!

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    Seriously, nowhere is it stated this mod has been discontinununueed and considering Heretic's recent post in his BFG mod thread the time has not yet come for wreaths and professional cryers.

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    I've allways wanted to see a killzone port for dawn of war! Definetly waiting for this.

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