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[2.400] Lieutenants buffs

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    [2.400] Lieutenants buffs

    Recently I'm playing with high use of Infantry Sections and Sappers and multiple LTs. I have some questions:
    -Was there a change to LTs buff? I heard that accuracy bonus was decreased and damage bonus was added., but I'm not sure.
    -How do these bonuses stack with multiple Lieutenants?
    -How is the xp shared when 2 or more LTs are in range?
    -Does multiple Heroic Charges stack?
    -Does LT aura affect him?

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    -Was there a change to LTs buff? I heard that accuracy bonus was decreased and damage bonus was added., but I'm not sure.
    The accuracy buff was made unstackable and slightly reduced (it caps out at +30% and only with vet2 lieutenant), at the same time, a damage buff was added that takes the place of the stacking accuracy buff.

    -How is the xp shared when 2 or more LTs are in range?
    No idea, really. I think they share it 50/50.

    -Does multiple Heroic Charges stack?
    All at once? No, but I do beleive that you can chain-heroic charge. Activate one heroic charge than when it is about to run out activate another one.

    -Does LT aura affect him?
    LT auras do effect themselves I beleive.

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    The accuracy buff was made unstackable and slightly reduced (it caps out at +30% and only with vet2 lieutenant), at the same time, a damage buff was added that takes the place of the stacking accuracy buff.
    Does anyone have actual numbers?

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    Yeah.

    Vet 0 Lieutenant provides 1.15 accuracy and 1.15 damage modifiers, Vet 2 Lieutenant provides 1.32 Accuracy and 1.18 damage modifiers.

    The change log from way back in 2.403 said it was Vet 1 that gave the first bonuses. However I think this was a typo, as the Lt. doesn't have any additional aura bonuses at vet 1. It's just vet 0 + vet 2.

    To answer your "How do theses bonuses stack" question - well, coh-stats hasn't updated for British veterancy yet. However, you can refer to the old coh-stats page on Lt. veterancy which should help in understanding it.

    Basically, each Lt. has non-stackable bonuses, and stackable bonuses. The stackable bonuses are the ones that are added to other Lt's bonuses, while the non-stackable is unique and will not add on to each other.

    The problem is, because coh-stats hasn't updated yet, I can't tell you what the numbers would be if we had 2 Lt's in the same area.

    However, this is how it worked in 2.301:
    2 vet 0 Lt's: 1.15 (non-stackable from one) x 1.125 (stackable from 1) x 1.125 (stackable from 2nd) = ~1.45 = 45% bonus accuracy.

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    So if there are 2 Lt do they share xp 50-50 as Nanaki said?
    BTW, does the captain get XP from all kills in his sector? Does it matter if the sector is allied or neutral or axis?

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    Yeah exp is shared equally. If you really want to stack up veterancy on only one officer, you'll have to keep that single person near every battle with no other officers every nearby. Probably not the best idea in most cases.

    The Captain gains exp from being nearby kills as well (no matter where). Same thing with Command Tank.

    So if you want to level up that Captain, better bring him along to the fights. Either that or put him in a trench near a place that sees a lot of fights.
    Last edited by YurdleTheTurtle; 7th Apr 09 at 12:40 PM.

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    Great thx. One last thing, in 2.301 vet 2 bonus would stack with vet 0. I recall that in 2.400 accuracy buff on vet 2 replaces that from vet 0. How is it about damage modifier? Does LT gives 18% buff to damage or 35,7%?

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    So if you have 3 Lt and 1 Captain following a squad they get 25% each?

    Also if you have 2 Lt near a squad and one is already vet3 does he still take up XP splitting it up 50-50 again? Or does the Lt who isn't vet3 get 100%?

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    @stalkerblaze: We don't actually know if the damage bonus has a stackable number or not. We're going to have to wait until coh-stats updates, or the people that know the numbers, comes around here.

    @simanos: I'm pretty sure if someone's already maxed out on veterancy, they don't sap any more experience from the radius. However, I don't have any proof of this so here's hoping someone else does.

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    I have made tests with 1,2 and 3 LTs and I think they don't share xp like 50% for each if there are 2 and 33% if there are 3. I'm pretty sure that while in range every Lieutenant gets full xp. So having 2 LTs following one squad will vet up exactly at the same time as 1 LT.

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