DoW40k: FOKaurava. imoportant news post #483

[fuggles]

Is there going to be a death spinner, firestorm or vibro cannon in this mod? Been a while since I've touched base

[Fleshp0int]

I can only answer one or two things there, but suffice to say we're quite busy with the changeover to Soulstorm, coding for the two new races is going ahead, but its not just a case of Fokifying them, they have to be tested and balanced with what's already there, so there's lots of ideas flying around.

As for the Terminators, well we are currently in the process of having them properly animated, and I'm also working on the new textures (will post screens on our forum, and here soon) along with the new marines which Horus has already posted previously.

We are also polishing some models that previously were not up to snuff, the marines dread for example has a completely new texture and the model has been improved in places.

So things are progressing well so far, I'm sure someone else will be along soon with moar

[Patman42x]

I also noticed that your Moddb profile could use a little bit of love. I was missing a full on change list to see what changed in FOK (I'm not a DC player anymore), including new races, branches and the like. If you do have the time, I'd like you to improve on that one.

maybe with emphasis on "if you do have the time"

Same goes for the map files, they lack any distinct information about the included maps.

well, the new (and all further releases) will have the maps already included, so no additional download.

[Servius]

Forgive me for coming late to this party. A friend pointed me to this mod for DC, but from the OP it sounds like it's a mod intended for SS, but isn't ready yet. Is that correct? Or have I misread and it IS ready for Soul Storm?

I've just finished playing DC (had to end early because the FoK mod kept causing crashes with the Eldar and Tau home base misssion) so I'm ready to start SS but didn't want to play vanilla if this awesome mod was ready.

[Swanky]

You are right. The SS Version is still in development, yet the DC one seems quite ready and mostly finished. I can't fully tell, though, as I use DC mainly as my base folder for Soulstorm mapping.

[Shuma]

As for the Terminators, well we are currently in the process of having them properly animated, and I'm also working on the new textures (will post screens on our forum, and here soon) along with the new marines which Horus has already posted previously.

Awesome, good to know. I was just curious because i remember bothering MK a lot about those ages ago and remember seeing them in the forum banner and was simply wondering if they had been dropped for some reason, it's good to know that they're still alive and kicking.

[Fleshp0int]

Servius: Forgive me for coming late to this party. A friend pointed me to this mod for DC, but from the OP it sounds like it's a mod intended for SS, but isn't ready yet. Is that correct? Or have I misread and it IS ready for Soul Storm? I've just finished playing DC (had to end early because the FoK mod kept causing crashes with the Eldar and Tau home base misssion) so I'm ready to start SS but didn't want to play vanilla if this awesome mod was ready.

FoK is now being developed internally for SS we are no longer working on the DC version (other than bug fixes or maybe a patch if needed afaik) The DC campaign was never fully implemented and there are problems with it especially on end missions, hopefully this is something we can correct for the SS version, of which there is no public release as yet.

Meanwhile here's something to whet your appetite...

[SpardaSon21]

So, if you're done working on DC, are you going to release a version of 3.6 that isn't a release candidate?

[Fleshp0int]

So, if you're done working on DC, are you going to release a version of 3.6 that isn't a release candidate?

Yes, as I mentioned there are still bug fixes to be done etc,


Allow me to distract you with This!

[Richter]

Distraction successful!

It really is good to see vanilla units after they've FoKed over.

Superb job Fleshy.

[Servius]

BURN, HERETIC!

I've heard there was some hate for how termies looked (though I didn't notice a problem) but I'm wondering if, in addition to making them look better, you're planning on scaling them up to fluff proportions as you've done the vehicles.

For example, if the average human male is ~6' tall, then the average Space Marine in their armor is ~8' tall, but a Terminator is, what, ~9' tall? Dreadnaughts are about 10-11' tall I think, since they're described as 'as big as a house' and a 1-story building (the smallest thing you could call a house) is about 10'+ (10' per floor usually).

[horusheretic]

dreadnoughts stand up to 3 times the height of a man according to the model description on the GW site for dreads.

some codices say twice the height.

so either way we are going to be some what wrong and thus leads us to the conclusion:

they are fine as they are

[Hellcobra84]

GReat job flashpoint

[Jaguar-Lord]

and i dont see any limitation about dreadnought size variation in the fluff, 3time the size of a man, it could well be 4.5m to good 6.00m tall...dread are pretty unique given the fact that they are "walking" sarcophage created to honnor the memory of imperium heroes....

@Horus : looks like my question was los in the heat of last week argument

is there any arcoflagelant unit to be expected in the incoming release or are you planning to make one ?

and what is the inquisition tech tree for the inquisition, if any?
JL

[SpardaSon21]

It will essentially be two separate factions. The FoK team will make a single Inquisition faction, but will split it up into two separate forces much like how the IG use ArCo and Infantry doctrines, except the differences will be much bigger as instead of ArCo and Infantry it will be the Ordo Malleus with the Grey Knights and the Ordo Hereticus with the Sisters of Battle.

[Maxajax2]

Keep it up Warmaster. the legions are rooting for you guys

[horusheretic]

Please people, i don't deserve all the praise...

Many people were committed to this mod and still are. They need the attention too XD

[Maxajax2]

heheh well, with Guys i meant the whole modding team :P

oh btw i had some things to report. The game reports a Fatal SCAR error at the start of the battle of the vandean coast.

also this isnt very important but the threads on the grey knight land raider(as IG) do not move when the vehicle is moving. as if land raiders can fly. good luck :P

[booni]

i hope this doesnt take two years to complete ill be all grown up and wont be playing these kinda games anymore :'(

[Chompster]

i hope this doesnt take two years to complete ill be all grown up and wont be playing these kinda games anymore :'(

you can never be old to play these kind of games..

[leonn]

no indeed.you'd be surprised at how old some actually are!

[horusheretic]

Time for more Visual stimulation and brain melting renders. which are simple enough.


http://fok.dow-mods.com/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=4792

[Souske22]

hmm those blood angels are gonna use those cups quite a bit aren't they? Will they be drinking from their cups during battle/during idle animations?

[horusheretic]

they are decorative.

[Maxajax2]

if they did drink from them that would be kinda like this:


When Spess mehreens try to drink trough their helmets it just looks very silly tbh.

Ah yeah i forgot, if i find a bug in Firestorm Over Kronus, ill send you a PM. kind of pissed of a moderator with double posting...

[horusheretic]

it would more likely be seen on our forums. they are visited more often by the coders and is more likely to be fixed quicker.

[gauntka]

Hi all!
One queston: why don't use Steel Legion mod tanks?

[Maxajax2]

Alright warmaster, if i find anything else besides the aforementioned vandean coast SCAR error i will let you guys know there.

[Whiteshield]

@gauntka - because these models are more up to date and prettier than the steel legion mod tanks

[Ratz]

when when when when when when :

why we have to wait so long, god? err.... sorry, god-emperor

[Maxajax2]

Blame the Slaaneshi like the rest of us >:C

[Ira Aduro]

Chill people, the mod will be done when it is done™. It's also against the rules to ask, because as you can see it just clogs up the thread. I'm leaving Ratz's post so others can see exactly what not to do.

Take this moment to review the forum guidelines.
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=241098

[Grizzly Bear]

i do suggest asking steel legion for their models? why not? you have second version of marines the black temps.. so why not? just a though.. man i wish we coudl see the death korp

[Whiteshield]

adding the steel legion to fok is easy enough. just add the rgds edit their armour types and weapon armour piercing types as well as abilities etc, and there ya go! :P

[Gorb]

We can't use Steel Legion assets in a public release. As Whiteshield said, there is nothing wrong with adding the mod's models yourself however you wouldn't be able to release the finished product as the Steel Legion modders don't want their assets shared freely.

I could be wrong, but that's the last I heard.

[Whiteshield]

Indeed Gorb. And Grizzly, people would start complaining about "copyright infringement". however, modding it privately, you could do it.

Its not that complicated, but it will eat up A LOT of your time, and knowing how busy the fok mod team is, they wouldn't put much effort in a mod with no offense meant, has models that don't have the same quality, though it is good, its not in the same level as the models of fok, but what would you expect from something that was done a couple of years ago?... in simple terms... its models are outdated.

But what's stopping you?.. FoK's gameplay is not my taste but what I did was make my own personal mod with soulstorm's dark eldar, replaced the witch hunters with the sisters of battle (coz they're TC), added the tyranids, Inquisition, steel legion, and of course, FoK's own models. well I pretty much added what the community had to offer. :P

[horusheretic]

your free to make your own dawn of war mods with the models in fok, just that if people aren't going to allow there assets to be used in a similar fashion then we cant work with them. a conflict of interests does that. no point asking if X mod can be added to ours if the mod makers themselves don't want there assets used.

[Maxajax2]

tbh i think the FOK team could make any Imperial guard army themselves, Grizzly bear.

[281tweaker]

man some people. we work our ass off for the people and we get a thanks in return but you just can please everyone. sad you mush hate us so much because you have to register on our forums. to get hmm... lets see.. years of work.

If I may be so bold. Impolite as he may be, the offender could possibly be fueled by the same abrasive experience many of us have endured from your site.

Personally, I would like to prowl your forums more often but find them inspiring much of the same verbal explosions as provided by your hate monger. Except I'm in the confines of my home and screaming at the monitor with no regard or worry of getting under an actual person's skin.

You and all the others on the FoK team deserve praise a plenty. Your mod and all who have contributed to it have held the replay value of DoW higher than Relic set the bar. But your forum is not user friendly, and Triathlon Necrons suck. :P

[Angel71090]

Originally Posted by baz443311 man some people. we work our ass off for the people and we get a thanks in return but you just can please everyone. sad you mush hate us so much because you have to register on our forums. to get hmm... lets see.. years of work.

If I may be so bold. Impolite as he may be, the offender could possibly be fueled by the same abrasive experience many of us have endured from your site. Personally, I would like to prowl your forums more often but find them inspiring much of the same verbal explosions as provided by your hate monger. Except I'm in the confines of my home and screaming at the monitor with no regard or worry of getting under an actual person's skin. You and all the others on the FoK team deserve praise a plenty. Your mod and all who have contributed to it have held the replay value of DoW higher than Relic set the bar. But your forum is not user friendly, and Triathlon Necrons suck. :P

Dude this thread nearly got closed by this discussion. Please don't pour gas on the smoldering cinders. Please, ty, and God Bless the USA today in its Birthday

[281tweaker]

oh, whatever. I can't type two words on these forums with out getting a warning or flagged for some inane nerd courtesy I was not savy to.

[horusheretic]

Personally, I would like to prowl your forums more often but find them inspiring much of the same verbal explosions as provided by your hate monger.

i dont see it but if your willing to take the time and show me then give me a pm here with some examples and ill see what i can do.

Edit:

http://fok.dow-mods.com/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=4817

[ombrephenix]

Hello all and the team F.O.K. I wonder whether you can make the files public "VHM" and "vhe" your future models of leadership? (The SS versions) I am planning to make updates to my work. Your models are the reference community allow myself to realize it. I must complete an archivist and his nemesis.


Concepts of my development:

-Make a wider choice of special heroes: Several variations of wargears.
-Use of random elements for character customization. (Amended update)
-New textures: On the basis of "wargear" and parts Horusheretic random models.
-Choice of spells generic human: combinations of spells "IG" existing (evil / good)
I have already imported and attached to the archivist. I optimize vents for easy import of compatible models. (Wizard, Fc, IQ, Lord and maybe other models.)
-Choice of unique spells: new spells adds 1 to 4 spells per hero concept. (A dozen are currently being renovated with new sound) I'll probably added lots already developed by the community.
-More wargears: wargears variations (variations in the themes of the concepts of heroes)
-DPS: New concepts to the study. (New damage types and resistances. In combination with work on the "UI")


Objects of my work:

-Experiments and Sources for "Mods".
Demos-concepts. (To give ideas for development)
-Base for the construction of a project hero fun.
-Optimize each models to offer a maximum of content in a small space and programming "AE".
- Alternatives to heroes from today to extend the gameplay possibilities. (A mix DOW2, DOTA and WH40).


Warning: I planned to make hex editing files for experimentation. If you give me the permission you need to take account.

[Gorb]

tl;dr: he would like to request usage of our art assets used and/or created for the Soulstorm version of FoK

[ombrephenix]

tl;dr: he would like to request usage of our art assets used and/or created for the Soulstorm version of FoK

Your current leaders are not compatible with the version Soulstorm?
(in accordance with law and not rape I.P)

[corncobman]

I think Gorb was just trying to provide a short summary of your post so that people will understand.

[Gorb]

That I was

The current models should work with Soulstorm, ombrephenix, however we're in the process of cleaning up our existing art assets and improving upon them. As per the terms of the FoK mod you're free to use any of the art assets provided within the modification, as long as you possess a copy of the modification.

So feel free

[ombrephenix]

ha well! I already informed to the questions of Arts. I am trying to know whether this is the case for "VHM" and "vhe"? My job may change the "Events" animations and combos FX models. I especially need authorization Horusheretic. It's mostly work that I may denatured by my concepts. ("OE" changes may be very important for models.)

If you or I confirmed the feasibility of my projects you can make me follow the "VHM" and "vhe"? I can extract myself but it's harder for me to work with 3DMax. I'm no 3D modeler.

merci

[Patman42x]

i think understanding your posts might be easier if you posted the french original version of them parallel to the englisch translation.

also, yes you are allowed to edit/work with our whe/whm files if that's what you're asking

[horusheretic]

this is a resource mod after all, providing you use the assets in dawn of war series only.