Normandy 44 : European Theater (Sweeten2213 retired - 2.0 Alpha released))

[Twitchy]

@FeldMarshalPF - What exactly do you mean by the Jump helmets? Could you post a Picture of them please?

[Caius Bingerus]

puh, lots of stress in here, people calm down everybody, to discuss this, guys, it is a mod, a very well made, it is their decision, only their's!!! be happy, that this is given to the community as a gift, they lost their freetime for that, i am a longtime lurker here, since the old days of sig's first version i played this mod, every version since that time was better than we other before, believe me, it's growing is wonderful, this team will make a new baby, that's for sure...i for myself look really forward to this 2.0 version, EUROPEANTHEATER 1944!!! it will represent the eastern front and the western front, with it's game limitations noted naturally, historical accurate global players from this timeframe ( regiments, battalions and armycorps )...i know, i will love to play this masterpiece, muah

@team: i played a couple of games with my friends via LAN, i think and this is only a suggestion, both allied airborne doctrines ( US/Britain ) are to strong with their possibility to reinforce everywhere, that makes no sence in the way of combat mechanics, no man, even a madman ( i know some FALLSCHIRMJÄGER, hehe ) would drop directly into combat, i know, it is a game, but this advantage is to powerful against the other choosable doctrines, you go to the enemy base with your squads and reinforce and so on and so on, you know, make them dropable i suggest, but they have to reinforce like every other squad close to base or buildings or halftracks


sorry, to write such a wallblock mates

@gamerisin: i couldn't resist, muah, this new version you have made rocks baby;-) nothing to complain....this night i drink a toast ( lot's of beer ) for you and the whole team...best regards

[Savage Noble]

@Twitchy

The fallschirmhelm.

[Latias418]

Latias - don't speak to my teammates that way in my thread. It won't be tolerated

I find this incredibly ironic considering I haven't said anything in the least offensive, whereas one of your teammates essentially called me a whiny bitch.

Even if you do make maps, and add Ostheer, Soviets and Ostheer will still be able to fight along side the other Allies... but I digress.

[sweeten2213]

@ Latius - I see you've edited and removed the f-bomb from your post concerning reading your posts - at least you went that far - which was more or less what I was referring to

Even if you do make maps, and add Ostheer, Soviets and Ostheer will still be able to fight along side the other Allies... but I digress.

True - just as they can have divisions that never faced one another fighting each other (I.E. UK 1st AB and 709.ID) or on maps that certain divisions never got anywhere near.

People are capable of creating "non-historically" correct games with v2.0 as they can with v1.7. I understand the inclusion of the Soviets in v2.0 without the Ostheer does create a scenario where you are forced to play an unrealistic scenario until we put in the Ostheer.

Out of respect to the EF mod, we are going to wait to add the Ostheer until v2.1.

And as stated, you can still play very historically correct games - as a matter of fact MORE historically correct games with v2.0 (given the overhaul of the doctrines and increased VERY detailed research) - depending on who you choose to use and who your opponent uses. It's just that it will also be possible to play more "fictional" games as well, especially until we add the Ostheer.

[Twitchy]

@FeldMarshalPF - Ah yes, that helmet. If I remember correctly SIG had those on the Fallschrimjagers in the early early versions of N44', which was back in the day of the first Company of Heroes.

Any chance we can get that back in Sweeten?

[Gamerisin]

@Caius Bingerus....I'm glad you like it mate,and upcoming version is about to be released with more goodies

about this,I mean guys,c'mon...I think people here is smart enought to play Soviets vs Ostheer and not adding the Brits or Yanks in their matches but if they wanna do it then go ahead,for example @Latias if u dislike this then why even bother on replying and posting not to add them and stuff like that,we been clear that they are gonna be added wether people like it or not,we are just giving people more choices to play with,more skins,more maps,more units,more sounds,new models,etc...this is what will be included in future releases so please,what's the point f only writing why adding the soviets??? well I gave you a clear and complete answer mate

@sweeten here gave us a simple and one of the best answers someone could gave.

[lin]

well i have no problem playing "fictional" games

[LloydyBoy]

@everybody wow long time since i checked in here, 1st of all things to say so little time, 2nd

latias, does it really matter if the European Theatre add in russians, you could do the best of all options but to not upgrade to 2.0, if you really dont want the russians in this mod, then fine but it isnt gonna change the modders descision if you of all people decide to not put russians in, and anyway it isnt of your concern to care, if you dont want to play as the russians when this should be a Normandy only mod, then go play Blitzkrieg or dont update, and the EF mod is lacking potential, i dont really like it that much, and i was hoping for realistic Weaponary, enhanced Squads of Russians, new maps... basicly Russian Theatre... European Theatre but with the Russians instead, now i dont really like the idea as well of adding russians with the US and the UK, but then again it doesnt matter cos i just wont play as them. now if you really want a ban from the forums (at this rate i think you might anyway) then i'd stop arguing with the Modders of the fantastic Mod. good day

[Bowkers]

Or, in the words of some person. Stop bitching. Whilst opinion is great, if the modding team want the Russians in or not, then it's down to them ultimately, it's their project. You don't have to play it, no one is forcing you to.

[BattleBrotherMo]

how are the russian armies going to be divided? Will they be giant, monstrous waves of people and tanks, or be toned down to what we have in the Normandy part of the operation?

[LloydyBoy]

i doubt

giant, monstrous waves of people and tanks

probaly the operation 1

[Twitchy]

@Bowkers - Thanks for clearing that up with everyone.

@BattleBrotherMo - I believe the Russians are being added just like the other factions, so in their repective Divisions and units, so I think they might be toned down.

[sweeten2213]

@ Bowkers - thanks

@ Everyone - the Russians are being added in a similar format as the rest of the factions based around operation Bagration.

One Doctrine will be based around the "hammer" of the beginning of the operation, based around Oslikovsky's mechanized force in the 3rd belorussian front (mobile and fast striking for the most part)

The second doctrine is based on more contemporary infantry forces, best compared with the US Inf doc

The Third will be more elite forces (Elite Guards) based mainly around assault or breakthrough forces

[Twitchy]

@Everyone - Did anyone else actually play that Robot Unicorn Attack game when they were doing routine matenince? I did...Don't do it if you haven't. Im so addicted to it now its not funny, and I can't get the song out of my head.

Sorry for the Off-Topic

@Sweeten - Anyway we can get that FallschrimHelm from SIG?

[sweeten2213]

More than likely, Twitch

[Savage Noble]

@Sweeten-Awesome guys, looking forward to that for sure.

@Twitch, yes I did, and like you i'm obsessed with the song "Always" by Erasure. Maybe that can be the victory theme of the Ostheer in N44, lol. I have that song on my iPhone now. God I love these forums.

[revolucion09]

Hello there, People.

I see this mod has gone too far, and it is great, im very happy to what have been done. And I am so sorry for disappearing, everybody knows how are the changes of life.

Just came to say hello, and will try the mod as soon as I recover some free time again.

Really good work Sweeten for keeping this up and working, salutes to all staff too.

Bye!
Rev09

[Angelic]

Sorry for responding a bit late couldent find my post, when i asked are you making it seperate Twitchy and Mhephire thought i was talking about making the russians a seperate addon thats not what i ment what i ment was are you making this yourself. in the meaning will this not be a ripp-off from EF. and in Twichty's post i also got answer on that.

[Twitchy]

@FeldMarshalPF - Yeah, I can't stop listening to "Always" Now. Like its on my IPod right now, and I guess I'll be listening to it all day.

Happy Birthday to me, xD

As Selfish as that may sound, it actually is my Birthday.

[eliw00d]

Why is the Fallschirmhelm being requested? That's been in COH since OF came out...

[Savage Noble]

Happy birthday Twitch.

@eliw00d. The model is there. I've seen SIG's myself. They just have to implement it back into N44.

[eliw00d]

@Feld
No, what I mean is, it came with Relic's Fallschirmjäger in Opposing Fronts...why do we need a new one?

[Savage Noble]

To be honest with you, I have all but forgotten what the vCoH fallschrimjagers look like, but didn't they have a different helmet with webbing?

[eliw00d]

To be honest with you, I have all but forgotten what the vCoH fallschrimjagers look like, but didn't they have a different helmet with webbing?

It's exactly what is being requested, but with webbing, yes. SlayerKnecht has made bare steel skins for them, which might be what you're looking for. I am sure others have made skins like that as well, but I don't keep up to date with skins. I just know that they already have the helm, if not with bare steel. Keep in mind, though, that this mod takes place when a majority of Fallschirmjäger were issued camo helmet covers. A few FSJ kept their helms bare steel as a reminder of Monte Cassino and Crete, with mud smered on to make a pseudo camo, or used webbing with leaves, but a majority used the helmet covers. The Bundes Archives have a lot of pictures of '44 era FSJ with the covers if you're interested.

http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?t=221236

Perhaps the person requesting the helm has also forgotten what vanilla FSJ look like...

[Savage Noble]

Perhaps. Although it doesn't make too much difference as they are not in N44 anyway. I could have sworn the fallschrimjagers from vCoH looked like the ones in the Historical Skin Mod, with those helmets...hmm

[Twitchy]

If you compare SIGs skin to that, you'll notice that the Fallschrimhelm that is made by the other guy is noticeably bigger, and in my opinion seems a tad bit odd. The one SIG made is smaller, and seems to fit better perportion wise with the models.

[tankdestroyer]

No, what I mean is, it came with Relic's Fallschirmjäger in Opposing Fronts...why do we need a new one?

Wrong, wrong and wrong.. The fall that came in Opposing Fronts is the one that has the camo helmet. The one they are asking is the one that came in a beta, it has the steel helmet. So is just matter of switch model, no need to make a new one.

[eliw00d]

Wrong, wrong and wrong.. The fall that came in Opposing Fronts is the one that has the camo helmet. The one they are asking is the one that came in a beta, it has the steel helmet. So is just matter of switch model, no need to make a new one.

Why say I'm wrong when I'm not? ._.

I said exactly what you just said, but had no knowledge of the beta version (didn't know about COH until after release).

[tankdestroyer]

You wrote it was a reskin, when its clear its a total different helmet, thats why I say that you were wrong. It was a model that doens't makes its way into opposing fronts and the guys from BotB were so kindly to make it availabe. Anyway it doesn't matter...

[eliw00d]

Oh, are you referring to SlayerKnecht's version? In that case, I see where you're coming from. I only remember seeing that it was bare steel, I had no idea it was a different model. I thought he just got rid of the leaves and gave it a steel skin. But I digress, either way it's already been done and the request isn't needed.

[Gamerisin]

sorry to get off topic guys but...Happy Birthday @Twitch,sorry man,I did't saw this before

[Grizzly Bear]

Sweet, this 2.0 better be awesome! cause i know it will i just bought a new pc rig.. rather expensive been saving up for it for a while now.. should be ready by friday..

I7-860 with Hyper 212 Cpu Cooler
Antec 900 case
ATi 5870
8 gigs
W7 64 bit so i can use ALL THE RAM!!!!! =)

gigabyte board so i can run a second 5870 when i want to.. and OCing.. =)

[mrempirehimself]

@grizzly
nice rig
but 8gs is usless
i have 4g in my rig and my memory never goes higher then 60 percent on this mod
5870 was a good choice but you should of got rid of the 8g go for 4g and wait until nivida gives out the 470gtx unless they way better power then 5870 then stick with 5870
plus you should of got atcs 840, wait until 700d, buy 800d for the window or got the FT02 sliverstone case.

ASUS H55 mobo's are way better as they use turbo boosting and gpu boosting
get the i5 750 because its a 4 core hyper threading cpu and only 200 bucks
trust me on the 8gs ram you wont regret it getting 4gs instead.
in fact i can make you a list on newegg for you if wanna play this mod in high detail without draining the wallet. (unless you meant its ready by Friday that you already bought the rig)

[lin]

750 has no ht (not that it really matters), and more than 4 gigs of ram is good coz when i play this mod on high settings the system eats up all my 4gigs

[mrempirehimself]

i5 750 opps i forgot that i5 didn't have HT ( i don't think that matters anyway)
if the mods eats all 4gs then you 4gs are maybe not for games or you got the 1333 or lower versions rams then.

this mod doesn't go any higher then 60-65% on my ram

[Regiment_of_one]

heres whats a example for a budget gaming computer if you wanna play this mod on max settings

Case: your choice ( full towers are a good idea if you are getting a 5870)
ram: any 4gs with DDR3 1333 or higher
cpu: i5 or the lowest end i7 you can get
amd: any 4 core
Mobo: ASUS 1156 socket
gpu: if you got 500 to spend on gpu then i suggest you wait for the 400 series less then 500: 5870 400 and lower: 5850 300:5830
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA750 (can power up a 5870)

players/gpu ram guide
1v1: 5830/4gs of ram (1333)
2v2: 5850 4gs of ram (1600
3v3: 5870/4gs of ram (1600)
4v4: 5870/6gs of ram (1600 or 2000)
i haven't really went into all gpu's and get their benchmarks yet but the 5800 series is a good choice for the mod.

for the cpu..any 4 core cpu with the speed of 2.4ghz at least.

if you like sweeten you can take guide to show the guys what gpu/ram/cpu is needed for this mod

[sweeten2213]

Thanks for the input guys

For whatever it's worth I do suggest more than 4 (6 maybe?) gigs of ram for max settings on 4v4's or mixed faction 3v3's.

@ Reg - I may put that on post one

[Grizzly Bear]

@mrempire- i never ever had luck with Nvida all of them and i mean all of them have burned out in never more than a month and the last one i had burned out in about 2 days of ownership.. and i have owned 3 Nvidia.. i like ATI..

[Regiment_of_one]

yea your right sweeten but heres the thing
some people have differnet mobo's
1156 socket mobo's do 8gs of ram or 4gs
1366 socket mobo's do 3,6 and higher
soo 4gs is good too but you would needs speeds of 2000 or higher
its not all about memory of the RAM but the speeds of it makes the difference.

[Obest Nick]

Three of us play online. All have the same version and the game will play for approximately 10-15 minutes. It will then drop one player and it is always the same guy. He has a high end machine and no problem with the regular game. When he drops out the computer takes over. Any ideals as to a fix?

[panther42]

Just remember, like Grizzly said, if you don't have a 64 bit operating system, anything over 4 gigs of ram is useless in a 32 bit operating system. Anything more is a waste of money.

See this page from M$ for more info:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr...8VS.85%29.aspx

[sweeten2213]

Well... I just spent the last 3 days trying to fix one friggin bug with the Soviet AI.

I finally got it and the Soviets and US are now coded (mind you it's base code - still a lot to be done)

So onto the Brits I go. It'll feel good just to move forward - very tough 3 days of staring at screens searching

[[]inveigle[]]

You fight the good fight brother, it is appreciated.

[Twitchy]

Threeeeeee Dog Owwwwww! xD Sorry, Had to.

Keep it up guys, We'll have the Soviets running around in no time.

[Alex3426]

Ive been asking a bit around in the n44 group and some dont even have it.. I also found something that fixed most of my crashes in N44. It should work for everyone who has more than 2500 ram and xp/vista

[Twitchy]

@Alex3426 - Please, Do tell. I'd like to at least get rid of the Crashes.

[Grizzly Bear]

i cant seem to get this working right.. im on windows 7.. but when i try to chang the shortcut info it wont let me change the target line.. how do i do so?

[sweeten2213]

@ Grizz - not sure why it won't let you change it (admin privileges maybe?) but there is a different shortcut for win 7.

It's the same stuff at the end but if you are trying to copy paste the old one, it won't work.

Here is a good shortcut for win 7

"C:\Program Files (x86)\THQ\Company of Heroes\RelicCOH.exe" -dev -mod EuropeanTheater1944

[Grizzly Bear]

i got it =-) took me a bit.. W7 is confusing lol i only played for amin or two cause i jsut got out of a 14 hour work day thus really tired.... running at 60 FPs ( Vsync on) and at ULTRA.. so far not a studder.. 8 X AA 16X Af ... SEXY