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  1. #501
    @ Gambit and Daffy, the tyranid invasion is on the run, i appreciate your concern.

    @ Daffy Please let me know what happens with your further Vulture Kindred tests

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    Doing triple-proof due dilligence regarding the availability/proper crediting of/for the following models:

    http://imageshack.us/g/696/relic00079.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/g/196/relic00050.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/g/819/relic00028r.jpg/

    From what I could make out via google-translate the above models were created by Meloo, andrei354, MonkeyXXL, and Karandras, but i know not who made which etc :/

    Im hoping Meloo, andrei and/or MonkeyXXL (i do not recall ever seeing a Karandras here but if he's around him too :P ) can possibly clarify the situation regarding the "useability" of said models¿

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    Maybe Akranadas? IIRC he did some nice Eldar models. Don't remember him doing any Chaos stuff though.

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    Maybe Akranadas? IIRC he did some nice Eldar models. Don't remember him doing any Chaos stuff though.
    No, He is Karandras, very skilled kitbasher from Belarus
    Last edited by jONES1979; 2nd Jan 12 at 9:39 AM.

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    Most units in the screenshots
    Created Echo of existing units

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    Ah, thanks Jones, I'd never heard of him either but then I've not been very active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronWarrior42 View Post
    Doing triple-proof due dilligence regarding the availability/proper crediting of/for the following models:

    http://imageshack.us/g/696/relic00079.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/g/196/relic00050.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/g/819/relic00028r.jpg/

    From what I could make out via google-translate the above models were created by Meloo, andrei354, MonkeyXXL, and Karandras, but i know not who made which etc :/

    Im hoping Meloo, andrei and/or MonkeyXXL (i do not recall ever seeing a Karandras here but if he's around him too :P ) can possibly clarify the situation regarding the "useability" of said models¿
    A lot of those assets belong to either FoK or PoK (Melooo's mod), and as such should be freely available regardless.

    I'm unsure on the rest, structures like the Silver Tower of Tzeentch may be Andrei's, but I recall Croaxleigh having a Daemons mod in the works with similar content. I am unsure on the availability of Croax's assets, if he ever released them (which I doubt, hence why I believe it's Andrei's work).
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    Many thanks to Andrei for clearing this up via pm

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    Also, for those who hold such concernes, we've been far from idle i can assure you.

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    Ok in light of the pm's Cylarne has gotten ( i will not quote that garbage, as it is Cylarnes personal business, and i must make it clear that i mean only to say i an assure you he is UNDERSTATING just how retardedly and pointlessly hateful some of those pm's have been
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    That it is my personal humble opinion that Cylarne should post for all too see at least one of the pm's in full. ( he knows which one i mean im pretty sure lol )

    At any rate we've been getting similar albeit slightly less hateful pm's in endless waves, so much so that I, a freely admitted "in favour of open source in general" type of person, feels compelled to make a "statement" on the matter.

    1. If you pm us and all you do is ask for a download, and you don't even offer to aid in mp playtesting, you're automatically "Off The Island" as far as ever reaching pre-public release testing.

    2. If you are ABOUT to pm us or thinking about doing so, STOP! Think first about wether or not you have:

    A: the hard drive space/computer power to be able to store a mod this large without it bogging your whole system down like its become a drunken swamp buggy racer? (if you're unfamiliar/don't get the metaphor just google "Swamp buggy races" or some variant thereof, i promise they're not just my imagination )

    B: TIME to test a mod of this scale effectively ( we mp test on a regular basis for a bunch of balance reasons and the bare fact that the majority of the armies still only have sufficient AI to be used by players) and time for long loading times

    C: Enough morale to stick with a project that can at times seem incredibly daunting.

    D: ...so much fun modding DoW1 that lengthy hours of testing/and or patching/refining don't feel like "work".

    3: To sum up don't pm us asking for downloads ESPICIALLY if you're not offering to help in some meaningful fashion.

    Last edited by IronWarrior42; 8th Jan 12 at 8:03 PM.

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    @IronWarrior: hi, in the my second fight against the kroot the vulture kindred became normaly easy to kill.
    unfortunatly I have broked my pc and after the repairs it was incredibly slower (even before it wasn't fast) so I can't continue play this mod :'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''(

    oh, PS: Good luck with the salivary gland infection!!!!!!
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    Sorry to hear about your computer daffy96

    Many thanks for the report, and im glad I was able to help you against those pesky Kroot Vulture Kindred (and that I wasn't as big of a as I thought), any chance you'll have it back to optimal performance in the next 1-4 months? It would be a shame if not.

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    Also thank you to you, and everyone else who inquired about my health, during that episode. For all my "disagreements" I absolutely MUST compliment this community on its concern for the well being of its own; it certainly sets you apart from most such associations/forums/etc. i've observed or been involved with, and for that I salute the light within you Adeptus Modificatus.

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    On a side note is it just me or are us modders rather eyebrow-raisingly more prone to illness than your average random slice of humanity?

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    For all my "disagreements"...
    Hehe nicely said brother!!!!
    And even if sometimes a disagreement may arouse, I am sure we are all concerned about each other's well-being!!!!
    After all, I think we are all friends here!!! It is OK from times to times for some little issues to emerge, but in the end this community has a STRONG team spirit!!!

    On a side note is it just me or are us modders rather eyebrow-raisingly more prone to illness than your average random slice of humanity?
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  13. #513
    Hi Ironwarrior,

    I have read many good things about your mod on the forum and are very interested.

    Are you still looking for AI/AE assistance? because I can help you with those things.

    It is however difficult to make up my mind about it without an alpha build. Do you have a public alpha planned soon and/or how much do you want me to do in return for a private alpha. I don't intend to do mp testing, but I can probably get the AI of several races working and do a lot of sp testing and code adjustments.

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    @IronWarrior: Thanks to you for this mod and I'm honored to have helped you with the my report (I hope ) ! I think that on this pc I will never play DoC anymore... ... ... but I will soon buy a new pc so I will play this mod again!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!

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    @ Archivist, very much so yes, however I need to get my pm box cleaned out etc.


    @ Daffy, your support is appreciated.

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    Made some room in my pm box, message me plz Archivist so we may discuss particulars/logistics
    Last edited by IronWarrior42; 12th Jan 12 at 1:53 PM.

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    @IW: Was I still going to help test, or wut? We never finished that PM convo awhile back.
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    @ cobaltlotus i must have added your screen name incorrectly, i never saw u on 0_o, i'll retry.

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    @IW: Roger that.

    EDIT: Looking back at messages, we never agreed on some form of instant messenger. D:

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    just added you again, and still no sign? Ur using msn yes?

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    I should reinstall it.. ;_; I uninstalled it because it almost broke my computer. Any other messengers that I can use my hotmail account with? I'm going to look and see.

    UPDATE: Trillian should be working with my live account and stuff. I think I got your invite and I added you just a moment ago.

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    k i got aim, yahoo and skype on hand, pm me ur screen name once ur set up.

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    @ archivist: I have downloaded the alpha-relase mod before the link went down: if you tell me how to do, I can send it to you if it is ok for IW42!

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    @ archivist: I have downloaded the alpha-relase mod before the link went down: if you tell me how to do, I can send it to you if it is ok for IW42!
    I guess it is to big for email so one of you guys should upload it on a free hosting site and send me a pm with the link, then I can start working.

  24. #524
    IronWarrior, hello. How your successes with mod?
    My own mods for Dawn of War game

    Awakening of Evil Mod
    White Scars Mod
    Spirit Storm Mod (Dies Irae)
    Rise of Imperium Mod
    Eldar Rebalance
    DoW Rebalance
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    Emperors Children (w.i.p.)

    co-author of:
    DoW Realism SS
    Perun Warhounds
    and a lot of other mods :)

    also i was tester of Ultimate Apocalypse mod (in august 2011)

    Tester and skinner of Codex Mod :)

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    @ archivist: I can upload it with megaupload.
    @ ironwarrior42: Are you ok with this?

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    @ Daffy. No.

    @ Cobaltlotus, need to talk to you on Trillian.

    @ Count Bagatur, the mod continues to grow, don't wanna hex it by naming a public release date though.
    Last edited by IronWarrior42; 13th Jan 12 at 1:22 PM.

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    @IW42

    I don't have Trillian, in fact I have never used a chatbox in my whole life, can you PM me the specifics of your problem.
    Also: I remember I saw a list with the races that currently have no AI but I cannot find it anymore, I think you should send me this list as well.

  28. #528
    oops meant Cobaltlotus.


    @ Archivist (for sure this time) you'll need skype for the purposes of DoC internal work (in your case AI) for a bunch of reasons. Def looking forward to relief on the AI front

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    IW42: can you tell me how I can give the alpha mod to archivist?

  30. #530
    @Daffy, don't worry about it, he will be getting our current internal soon enough, fear not

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    @IW42:
    I'm sorry I'm a little oldfashioned, I have never used skype either. I'm 27 yrs old and went through highschool close before the whole scheme of endless new communication methods unfolded. I'm still only on email and telephone. I understand you need a faster method of communication to coordinate the design of 25-50 races so I think it is maybe a better idea if I work exclusively on the AI for you. Because with the AI you don't need to coordinate you only need to adapt. So when you send me your mod I see your tech tree and I make the AI work for that tech tree = simple, no questions needed. I understand of course not all races will be in a state of perfection and you want to make changes. That is not a problem because the level of implementation will be adapted to that.

    For the AI I consider 3 levels of implementation:

    minimum = no AI execution errors when playing yourself with race that doesn't have AI.
    basic = AI can play and produces all units
    completely = AI includes tactics files to use abilities.

    I have recently been working on the AI for the following races:

    Daemonhunters, Witch Hunters, Steel Legion and some more private SM, CSM projects.

    So I think it will be easy to adjust some of my code to your tech trees. I set up a working framework and you only need to implement your costs and DPS values. Good idea?

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    @ IW42: AS YOU WISH, SIR!

  33. #533
    @Archivist; or maybe he WON'T Daffy, im sorry but im not buying the age excuse for one (im even older and know exactly what you mean RE: missing the boat on PC's as a kid) and for another im sorry but a reliable means of real time communication is an absolute necessity, even if you're "just working on AI". Your wariness of such merely serves to make me wary.
    Of course you can always do the AI after the next public release

    and yes that IS a good idea, IF we have a reliable direct line of real time communication.

  34. #534
    Okay man your choice, but I sincerely offered my help to you.
    I'm not easily offended and willing to send you my latest very solid IDH for Dow pro AI to
    prove I'm not lying about my capabilities. Maybe there is no need to let this end in unnecessary
    unpleasant suspiciousness. I'm sorry

  35. #535
    I have no doubts about your capabilities, pm me a list of the bare minimum of what you need to create "basic = AI can play and produces all units" and i'll see what I can do fair enough? Also I really didn't mean to offend, sorry if i did :/

  36. #536
    Good to have this sorted out I sent you a PM early next week because I'm busy this weekend.

  37. #537
    Yeah me too, NFL playoffs!!!

    Speaking of which, @ Cobaltlotus we're ready when you are, finally. All apologies RE: NFL Playoff induced delays :S

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    I'm ready whenever you are, IW.

    @IW: Do you want your bug reports privately, or can I post them here for you to see?
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    Most of these units I created from existing models for my private Chaos Mod. Which is created exclusively for myself and some my friends.
    Last edited by Echo; 18th Jan 12 at 11:09 AM.

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    1 Most of these models are made on the basis of common units and games or units Fok - but he did not draw them with new textures, not creating new parts of models, not creating new animations, he used a ready-made parts (just like Lego)
    2 There is also a units created on the basis of stolen units, and such modifications of a thousand sons, and made ??no demand (and these units had a lot)
    I believe that he has no right to prohibit the use of units from the first paragraph (because he used a ready-made parts and nothing made ??from scratch its not), second paragraph, he has no right to prohibit, as he stole them and has them do not what rights.



    Most of these units I created from existing models for my private Chaos Mod. Which is created exclusively for myself and some my friends.

    He personally wrote me he did not want to give this update to anyone except for Russian (though to steal other people's versions of the model it does not interfere with conscience and use in your mod)


    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...elic00073.jpg/
    Here's an example - the case of modifications to take Thousand Sons, all the rest of the usual dreadnought that there may belong to him?

  41. #541
    Stolen? You're an idiot? Model based on which I created these units were given by beta testers, or people who have participated in their creation.
    And I repeat for quite backward, it was all done for a private mod.
    Actually who are you to decide for me?
    Last edited by Echo; 18th Jan 12 at 11:48 AM.

  42. #542
    The man from whom he stole, too, that's who I am
    And redid my model, even though I forbidden to do
    The more I write here will not, I think just to make this modification in the public domain, not just the Russian community

    By the way beta testers were not given the right to use the model of the thousands of children in other versions, and here in Russia, the model of this mod is already used in other versions, the units of this modification in the open access to any person in Russia (although the author's words, this modification closed, in fact, anyone can download it)

  43. #543
    Lies and brazen provocation.

  44. #544
    Hey IronWarrior, how is the new stuff I gave you going? Any requests to be changed just ask.
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    Echo, please refrain from posting in this thread until further notice. I am taking this debate to PM.

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    @ Gorb, thanks for handling that, apparently there's no such thing as enough "due dilligence" , btw, if it is of any relevance, I have Andrei's pretty clear PM(s) on the matter from back when I first posted those links SPECIFICALLY for the purposes of AVOIDING yet another installment in the online soap opera "As The DoC Thread Burns" .

    @ Cylarne; Patience friend, the wheels of DoC turn almost as slow as those of the Administratum.

    @ Andrei many thanks again for your patience, effort and generosity

    @ Cobaltlotus check ur pm's


    @ "relevant parties" (You know who you are ), I THINK i'm beginning to see just how and why this community came to develop its various irksome (to myself subjectively speaking) quirks. As they say it only takes a bad apple or two to spoil the whole bunch, or in this case a or two to spoil the bunches ability to trust and collaterally increases wariness towards collaboration/sharing/making work open source etc.


    At any rate unless ive misunderstood something and it would =b& ( Seriously if i have misunderstood something tell me plz ) i'm going by what I was told by 4-6+ different parties whose reputations here speak for themselves. Thanks again to you guys. (you ALSO know who you are )

    In more positive news: I should have some manner of screenshot laden update sometime between now and tomorrow night.

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    Belated random pics:














  48. #548
    Cool screens. I think this mod requires high-end computers

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    Extraordinary work IronWarrior!
    Space Port, Foundry...!!!

    And ... Flying Fortresses?!!!!!!??

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    I've got a high spec computer. I literally cannot wait!

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