Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 100

Exile's Return & Other Fiction Discussion And Updates

  1. #1

    Fiction Exile's Return & Other Fiction Discussion And Updates

    Updated Summary

    Exile's Return essentially is my very first book that I've started writing, and now that it's been a while since I've started, I love doing it. I enjoy writing, I have several other books non-fanfiction but are not yet on fictionpress. The story revolves around fighter pilot Mark Soban on his journey to Hiigara. The story is kind of a first and third person view on the Homeworld war from the perspective of Mark and his friends. It was fun writing, I will continue updating regularly until it is finished. The story is easily understood to non-HW fans as well. Pretty much anyone who's a fan of Battlestar Galactica would love this so I've been told. I've had to create all characters from scratch aside from a few (Karan, Elson, Emperor, etc...). There are some differences from the actual game but I think the changes I've made are improvements that many fans will like. No spoilers though.

    Here they are, links to them all everywhere:

    Recommended reads / Stuff I've read or am reading:

    Children of Kadesh Book 1(by Norsehound)
    Relicnews

    Tales of the Vjel-Amaj Part 1 (by Sparki)
    Relicnews, FanFiction.net

    Refuge (by Stonewall)
    Relicnews



    Complete Collection Of Fanfiction



    Post comments if you like or don't like. Criticism is a big part of a story. And if you have suggestions, that's always good to. I write these for fun, and I don't ever expect to publish these because of legal issues. I will be rewriting them all to correct a great many spelling and continuity errors that I see everywhere now that I've read it over. But if you can look that aside and enjoy a good story, you'll have lots of fun in the Homeworld universe in great detail from the perspectives of the crew of the Mothership. There will be fear, war, bloodshed and epic space battles for the Michael Bay fans who want nothing but explosions. There is an actual Facebook Page, though not too popular at the moment. I'm not gonna tell you to like it, I'm telling you to enjoy it. If you don't like it, tell me why so in the rewrites I might take it into consideration. If you do like it, well then have fun. There is a Hiigara. And we will, all together, seek it out among the stars...

    Have a good read!

    Peace, doberman211
    Last edited by doberman211; 12th Feb 13 at 10:34 PM.

  2. #2

    Sorry for the long break

    Hey not sure if anyone is reading, I'm checking the story traffic on the fanfiction.net site where my book is, not many people visiting. i took a long break from writing because of school. and I've been doing some reading of my own. i finished up the 6th chapter on book 2 and its posted. I'm writing chapter 7 today sometime, just because I need to wait until 4:30 to go get the 9th book in the series i'm reading. so expect another chapter posted today or tomorrow.

    I'm home sick today and cant get to sleep. I'm not expecting to be feeling any better tomorrow either. So i have nothing to do but lie in bed and write (type) my book.

    I've limited myself to only writing non-stop on weekends, maybe a couple paragraphs on weekdays. this is just to tell you to expect new chapters on weekends.

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    In east sussex, England.
    I like where your going with this, its a very interesting new take on the homeworld story i think that there are quite afew revisions and improvements that could be made at a later time; these are purely to improve the flow and remove the subtitiles, mabey even help expand some of your chapters. however don't worry about this for now your doing great at the moment. finnish it first, otherwise you could end up in a situation that i alway find myself in which is doing endless revisions and losing momentum in the actual story it's self.

    Keep up what your doing

    Darc out



  4. #4
    That's the idea Darc, i plan on finishing the story first and repairing part one's partially damaged storyline after part three.

    I know what you mean, on a book series i'm creating at the same time as this fic, i'm on 5 rewrites so far. i'm thinking on just loosing the current mess and wiping it clean and starting from fresh. (only because i plan on becoming an author with it sometime in the future)

    Not the Exile's Return, though. i think it turned out a lot better. i plan on continuing 'till the end because that's how i roll.

    *note that in Arazis Restion, the "i" is silent so it's pronounced 'Reston'*

    So far, that's 8 chapters in 2 weeks. i think that's pretty good for myself.

    Peace
    Doberman211

  5. #5
    If anyone who sees and likes this book enough to be a beta reader, drop me a line at:

    doberman211@yahoo.ca or millettekurtis@hotmail.com
    or post a review saying you want to on the fanfiction.net site...that's easier.

    I'm usually not on the yahoo account and wont see your reply for a while (like a week). i just created it to get onto this site. hotmail wouldn't work for me.

    Peace
    Doberman211
    Last edited by doberman211; 7th Mar 10 at 8:36 PM.

  6. #6
    actually, maybe not. anyway, some minor updates to whoever sees this, i've started the book 1 rewrite and reposted the original on ff.net too. feedback is helpful. i'll be checking this more often now that school is out. any comments or concerns should go here. anything remotely related to the fics should be here. this is now the main area of comments. i'm actually not sure how many people read these but it's mostly on fanfiction.net because they make it real easy to post stuff and keep it organized. it's the very first bunch of stories for some reason so just go into the game section and homeworld. it's right there. might seem inconvenient but i'll try using this site for them too.

  7. #7
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Yea, don't lock m8, unless you decide to revamp or so.
    Fanfiction net has a beta reader pool, where you can search for a helpful Betareader. If you search a bit, you can find a few people. I'd almost suggest to look for those who don't know HW but like Scifi
    BF Bad Company 2 - Name: Groovechamp

    Homeworld Fanfiction in progress:
    Tales of the Vjel-Amaj - feat. a unique Kiith
    Act I; Act II; Act III
    Discussion Thread/ Forum Blog

  8. #8
    that's why i suggested somewhere to spread the word to homeworld and non-homeworld fans. i just can't be expected to advertise the entire thing, since that's a pain on my part and i have my own actual books to write also. i don't actually know if i can lock my own threads. i'm not too savvy in teh forums. i write and i post. but ff.net is great for organizing chapters. here you end up posting 5 at a time. which becomes a nuisance to read in my opinion. either way, summer, i'm doing nothing but writing. so you guys can expect like 5 chapters of either the book 3 or book 1 rewrite to appear out of nowhere. just saying. it could be tomorrow it could be in five days. i really don't have a schedule. but i am going to camp for the first week of july so i won't be writing then. canada camping means no electronics.

  9. #9
    Ok i guess no one wants to discuss this book, but i'll just ask anyway. Who wants Markus to live? I could add him in on the rewrite of book 1 but i'm holding off on that until someone answers me. I'm adding more character to Trix. anyway, i'm not sure how im gonna advertise this to get more readers. i guess they'll come with time.

  10. #10
    Think of it not as not wanting to discuss it, but rather as our anticipation at reading the next posting that apears!

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Ok i guess no one wants to discuss this book, but i'll just ask anyway. Who wants Markus to live? I could add him in on the rewrite of book 1 but i'm holding off on that until someone answers me. I'm adding more character to Trix. anyway, i'm not sure how im gonna advertise this to get more readers. i guess they'll come with time.
    I'm not even that far yet hehe.
    Not to mention that such decision truly lies in the hand of the writer. Although I am sure you seek guidance (unless you really want the reader to choose the fate), you have to figure yourself what is best for the story.

    But I understand the reader advertisement. I don't know if the reader's passion and traffic of HW/WH studio has gone down, no interest or just normal laziness (or just a normal seasonal low), but it is somewhat normal not to get posts m8.

    Using Fanfiction.net is a neat place. I am very certain that HW stories can inspire those who dont know much about HW but like scifi.
    Trust me, I wish I had more traffic and comments for guidance myself but I sometime around I just focus on continuing the story because nothing is more worse than unfinished business. I can see already that my writing skill is inferior than Exil's Return xD which is good so just keep writing m8 ;D.

    So you at least have my blessing whatever worth that is

  12. #12
    It's just that I can write it either way and it'll turn out well but i wanted some opinions on it to know what they think. I'm just hoping that HW3 will be released soon as i've hear rumors recently. then there'll be more fans to the series active.

  13. #13
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    agreed.
    HW3 or just about anything in that direction would be awesome .

  14. #14
    Since this is a discussion thread:
    1. I think the battle scenes are extremely well executed; they flow from one image to another and are clearly part of a cohesive whole.
    2. The amount of depth to each character is quite engaging, that fact that each has their backstory (which I'm guessing took a bit of planning) and each has their own individual, I dunno, reactions? That makes for an engaging tale.
    3. It's about people and how they cope, who have to live with what goes on around them, and with one or two exceptions they are not people who cause things to happen. (Granted things happen anyway as they are the main characters! :P). This probably the most important point for me in terms of the excellence of the story.

    In any case, keep it up! I'm sure that no matter how you write it, it will turn out well.

    More please?
    Last edited by Proripper; 28th Jun 11 at 12:24 PM. Reason: mistakes...

  15. #15
    I've actually just finished my obsession with afterwind for the day and am getting right on that. The thing is i was completing Book 3 before continuing with the book 1 rewrite, but i guess i can make a couple of Book 1 too. I'm fixing some plot holes I've found in the story and adding more life into the characters. Thanks for the review, you were dead on for what i was going for. One thing I need to criticize myself for is not looking into the Taiidan ship names more. I realize that these names are actually given by the Kushan not actual Taiidan names, so Trix actually has an invalid Taiidan name. But it's too late now and I won't change the name to one of my characters.

    :SPOILERS:

    I will however tell you, one of them dies in Book 3. I won't say which one...but you will feel it. I made the characters so I feel it. But This story is going to be a little darker near the end.

  16. #16
    How come book one is not finished?

  17. #17
    Because i'm rewriting book one. there's two threads. book 1 and book 1 final.

  18. #18
    oh, ok. just started reading yesterday and I love it already. keep up the good work!

  19. #19
    You'll notice there are some timeframe differences in the rewrite. Not to worry i still know how to make it a long enough story to surpass the first one. Just throwing something out there.

  20. #20

    Story has a Facebook

    There I made a Facebook page for the series now. If not review at least click the like so i know how many ppl are actually reading. I know there's at least a good twenty readers that read every time I post a chapter because FF.net gives me cool bar graphs and as soon as I post one, Bam! 28 people that day.

    There's another page of the same name floating around FB but i didn't make it and have no idea where it came from :S. So this is the official one I guess.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Exiles...268846?sk=info

    So ya there it is, not saying you have to it's not actually a big deal to me as I'm personally against facebook to begin with.
    Last edited by doberman211; 1st Sep 11 at 11:16 PM.

  21. #21
    There. For the Book 3 readers, there's a little insight on some of the lives of the characters who aren't really talked about much. Also Mark's because he's Mark :SPOILER ALERT: No Eric because I plan on making a separate fiction about his life in Saju-ka sometime in the future. Good reading and stuff. Yeah I took a 2 week hiatus what about it? xD

  22. #22
    Latest news, I've been accepted into Archive Of Our Own, which is another fanfiction site that gives much more detail about the book and the commenting is much more simplified. Though the chapters are a little off because the Intro counts as Chapter 1. Not that big a deal. I made the first Homeworld post there so any other fanfiction writers can thank me for making it for you. (I did absolutely nothing it was more of just tagging a fandom that didn't exist yet.)

  23. #23
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Thanks from me ;D
    Can you toss a link of your Archive of Our Own?
    Last edited by Sparki; 5th Sep 11 at 7:45 AM. Reason: Question Mark forgetting! >_<

  24. #24
    It's in the first post I update that one so no one needs to read through to find all the links. here it is anyway: http://archiveofourown.org/users/doberman211

    Take note that it's still in the beta stages but there's already thousands of works there. How it works is that you're put on a waiting list. I've been waiting since mid august and just got accepted so I thought I'd share it.

  25. #25
    Book 3 Chapter 9 posted.

    Ok people, I'm back on a school schedule now so look for new chapters more towards the weekends because that's so far the only time I can find writing time.

    And I think instead of completely rewriting books 2 and 3 I'll spend a weekend sometime in the future (either Christmas break or March Break depending on when I get book 3 finished) completely revising and editing the books and then when I find them satisfactory and have removed all spelling and continuity errors then I'll upload them in .pdf format. And maybe in epub too because Archive Of Our Own has an option to download in epub. For anyone with an ipad it's as easy as drag and drop into itunes. I can't upload it to any ebook store not even for free as far as I know due to legal issues that I don't care to go over until the series is actually done.So read and enjoy.

    Another add in: Archive Of Our Own is down for some reason. Not that it matters because I'm the only one there in the HW section. :FOREVER ALONE!: It's new and not really in it's full potential yet, but it makes tagging easy because you can tag characters to it, and also download the whole thing right to pdf and epub it you wana just download the whole thing and throw it on your iPad or kindle or whatever. I can't wait for that site to actually stand on it's two feet and make it's first baby steps out of beta stages. Hey maybe that's what they're doing 0.o

    EDIT: Lol as I wrote this the site magically fixed itself. So I guess it works now.

    And I just found out how to make words into links now, yeah I know where have I been? so there's something else I did today.



    Peace, Doberman211
    Last edited by doberman211; 11th Sep 11 at 12:35 AM.

  26. #26
    Another chapter for book 3 posted. Given a lot more thought about the statement above and will be holding off on rewrites and just do them all in one week. (I can hear my fingers crying already)

    I could have written another chapter this weekend but decided to play Afterwind instead. Srry guys!

  27. #27
    Ok I finished up another chapter of book 3 because I was bored tonight. Hope you like. More to come but I have math unit test Friday so no more writing until Saturday. And I promise, no more Afterwind.

  28. #28
    I apologize for no writing yet this weekend. I've been making images. So to make up for it, here's what I imagine the cover for the first book will be:

    Cover Art



    Not the final one, but something cool I thought I'd share.
    Last edited by doberman211; 19th Oct 11 at 6:55 PM.

  29. #29
    Book 3 Chapter 12 posted.

    Have some insight into the Kadeshi world onboard the Ifriit 3. No more spoilers than that. Though if you're reading this there's a chance you've already read it.

    Don't get bored on me, I'll have some cool space battles coming up soon with mission 11 approaching rapidly. Actually that's going to be very soon. i'm gonna transition into it next chapter since in this fic hypertravel takes months for the long jumps. It's gotta suck to be Kushan. And then I'll write that mission down. Probably this weekend. I had today off so I basically got the Afterwind and YouTube out of me. And it's only 10 so I might get another one done before i go to sleep so tomorrow I can just do awesome space battles.

  30. #30
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Hi doberman,
    although I was further ahead around chap 10 of Book1, I decided to read from the beginning once more since it was a while back. It also allows me to give a better comment than trying to rely on old and blurry memories.

    Since you asked for suggestions/crit and stuff, I'll post it. But so far, the story is interesting .

    You probably know already, but my english and diction are neither great nor am I a fanfic professional or such, so don't take me seriously (or sewiously) :>. Please see the suggestions as something to spark ideas for future revisions. By all means, don't get brought on the wrong track by my rambling walls of texts

    Spoilertag so that I don't spoil any stuff:

    Glass be here


  31. #31
    lol thanks Sparki for the long post. I agree with most of it and i'll take it into consideration on the rewrite. As specially how the turanic are revealed. I just have in mind that all these things revealed by fleet intelligence are seen on tv like a news show or something. I'll have him talk to someone that ran into them or something. i'll figure it out when i get there.

    The buttons in his ship i made just to compensate for the game itself having the three stats. i can keep them if i want but i could also just remove them entirely as in BSG or whatever they don't really have buttons like that. I'll include better physics too. make the fight scenes more epic and stuff.

    And for the test flight Mark knew it was a loose screw because later on the people found his ship and told him it was, but in the rewrite i plan on having his ship rip apart and fall into the ocean so it seems like i'll be rethinking how it went wrong.

    I'll keep the tenses separated more often. like if it's talking in the past tense i'll keep it all together and add 3 spaces and then continue or something. Or i'll just make it flow better.

    And i like Kharak being glass too it's cooler than just a barren wasteland. because when sand melts it turns to glass so if Kharak was burning i thought it would be cool if it was a ball of glass after that. Use it as you wish.

    Also another thing for the rewrites is focusing more on the other characters like Jay, John, Triikor and Arazis and whatnot. try to remove some of the text from the game itself. i tried at first to get the things fleet intelligence said in the story but that's pretty useless word for word as its a game and he's speaking to the player and there's no player in a book :/

    But first things first, finishing book 3. And finishing reading the first tales of vjel-amaj. very interesting stuff there. though on ff.net i noticed there were some explanations in {these brackets}. doesn't matter though it's still very good. I'll do a review of that when i'm done.

    Anyway,

    Peace, doberman211

  32. #32
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    The buttons in his ship i made just to compensate for the game itself having the three stats. i can keep them if i want but i could also just remove them entirely as in BSG or whatever they don't really have buttons like that. I'll include better physics too. make the fight scenes more epic and stuff.
    Remember, these are just suggestions . It is a story and if you wrote it that way, there is no reason to change it (because I said or suggested so ;D).
    If you leave the buttons, I just mean that their functions could be explained by the ship's computer allocating potential to the area. Aggressive could allocate more power and potential to the targeting aides of his HUD, but therefore make the fighter much more vulnerable as the CPU cannot calculate incoming fire and engage dodging as it would in a Defensive setting.
    Just noting .

    And for the test flight Mark knew it was a loose screw because later on the people found his ship and told him it was
    Oh, maybe I misunderstood that one then.
    Nonetheless, the loose screw idea should be kept. It would show how dangerous such is (and even in reallife it is like that ).
    Would be cool if he could complain too, in that case. Like "45million xyz-dollars and they screw it by a loose screw!" or something.

    Also another thing for the rewrites is focusing more on the other characters like Jay, John, Triikor and Arazis and whatnot. try to remove some of the text from the game itself.
    Oh just one more thing. Be careful with rewrites. They can sap one's energy when you are halfway through. Just remember not to add too much unless it is really necessary. I fell into that hole in a Robotech fanfic that ended up as unfinished business/shame of mine ^^.

    And finishing reading the first tales of vjel-amaj. very interesting stuff there. though on ff.net i noticed there were some explanations in {these brackets}. doesn't matter though it's still very good. I'll do a review of that when i'm done.
    Thanks for even antipating to read the first words. I know it is a bumpy story regarding diction.

    And HOLY CRAP. {-brackets?!
    Crap, I must have uploaded a chapter that had my betareader comments in it. DOH.
    Yeah, my betareader has fixed up half of the story. He has gone MIA but I'm more than thankful for his help. There is a lot of rewriting I will be doing this week, since I want to start ToVJ with a better diction. - although I have to finish up Life on Curse Chapter 1 at least; and I also received the missing file of ToVJ in order to conclude the final chaptor of that part.

    But thanks for pointing that out with FF.net.
    Unfortunately, I have a problem with uploading my story on FF.net. I only figured recently that I have to use the formating tools of Word. Also, what I learnt from Norsehound's storytelling as in using [ center]-tags along with *** To reveal time or scene changes.
    Mediaminer.org's system is a bit more flexible but that place is more for anime/manga fanfics.

    I will be re-uploading the ToVJ when the revision is around the 10th chapter (since there is where I can make sure that I got everything in it). It will be a bumpy ride though since it will be very huge in text. Oh dear. But enough about me.

    I will see if I can read chapters 6 thru 10 next.

    Sorry for quoting much ^^

  33. #33
    Srry i don't have any other chapters posted but i'd much rather watch System Of A Down live on YouTube for Rock in Rio. i'll make up for it

  34. #34
    lol making a loose screw joke. Another option right there xD

    And yeah I know it's my story and I'll be the one making the decisions in the end. Either way people will read it and like it. Or not it's up to them. Sigh how I wish I had the slightest bit of a negative review... This is all practice for me. How am I gonna become an author? Well this is my test run. Also I don't really feel like publishing anything anytime soon. That and it would not be my full time job because there's no guarantee on that making me good money. And I wouldn't be writing for money anyway.

    Oh the rewrites. I know about them. Oh how I could almost not get past the first part of my non-fanfiction book for months. But I did. But then I got bored and started this up again. I alternate. But I want to get this finished now It's been going on since 2009. But no rushing.

    And Sparki if your beta reader is MIA I'll gladly take his place if you want until he comes back. Because I HAVE word for one. That and I'm reading it right now anyway. I've also made my formatting as simple and easy to read as possible (I think).

    And quoting's always nice,

    "In a soundless concussion of light, dawn burst upon Rama." -Arthur C. Clarke

    It's also 3AM on a Monday and I can never sleep after the weekend. My brain is just screwed up like that. Usually I'm writing in this situation :/

  35. #35
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Sigh how I wish I had the slightest bit of a negative review...
    Well, one would have to be very very picky for the bad .
    If there is one first thing that would come to mind it is that the '~Launch of the Mothership -> Glassification of Kharak' plot is very closely related to the game - and to some, it might appear as a walkthrough (which isn't bad either).

    The only thing that can help here, imo, is a small expansion. At least the beginning.
    It was cool to hear that Mark lives in a mudhut -- and that everybody does as it is a standard. The desert culture city stuff would also be cool if it were just a bit expanded. I think each wouldn't need more than a small paragraph. I say small because it is better to just add little things - as I mentioned before, I added tons of stuff and ideas which were possibly great (or not) but it killed off the readers mojos - and anyways, the universe of that story was "retiring" so the interest was gone (was fun to write nonetheless).

    But I want to get this finished now It's been going on since 2009. But no rushing.
    Yeah, that freaks me out too. I think I started ToVJ also around 2008 - or 2007 even. And I've been over a year stuck in the second part (which should have been split to two individual parts regarding the freaky length :/).
    Yeah don't rush, but just keep it rolling. There is nothing worse than losing track.

    And Sparki if your beta reader is MIA I'll gladly take his place if you want until he comes back. Because I HAVE word for one. That and I'm reading it right now anyway. I've also made my formatting as simple and easy to read as possible (I think).
    Oh thanks dude .
    Well, for his sake, it is not really true MIA - it is just that he went silent, but he had always said that university was big time in his way and I told him by all means that his RL goes first. I will be breaking up all the work he did somewhat when I do the rewrite but he at least taught me how to put a better diction into the story. Not to mention all the common errors just because I re-translate from german to english.
    You don't have to slave yourself for full betaread since you'd be stumbling over every typo every 5 secs, but just a general feedback on certain plots or pointing out where stuff is just illiogical would be good. Also, the great thing of the Betareader was that he was not into HW (at least not as deep as we were) so he read with his Point of View and actually saw many things upside down and whenever my non-nerd explanation was said and he didn't get my point, then that was when I knew "Okay, I REALLY screwed up in that plot" - simply because the way I imagined things did not appear as it did in a non-HW reader's mind.

    I strongly suggest to get a betareader dude - try to find one who likes scifi, but does not know HW. Also, since Book1 and 2 is not long, that person should be happy to take care of it over the week (I suppose).

    Sorry to drag the ToVJ in here.
    Oh but I do recall that my knowledge of formatting in 2007 sucked. I also had an older Word and the previous forum versions ate paragraphs like captain crunch cereals.

    At this point, I'd just might have to make a Discussions Thread like you here after all - if you don't mind about me using a similar format ?

    I will try to give more feedback on the next chapters. If you like, I will add what would appear negative . But to be honest, one would have to be a serious troll for that sort of negativity.
    As far as I can say, maybe things are also rolling a bit too fast. Yet, bulking it all up with explanatory paragraphs like I would do is just as bad. I would say, it would be good to have very short but full explanations on Mark's friends just a bit more, so the reader can grasp their names early on.

    Oh, there was also a "Sound in Space" when gunfire "wizzed" past Mark's cockpit. However, there is nothing wrong with it as it is a typical topic for debate. Usually, people like the "hard science" so HW would have it too. BSG sound in space was solely only heard when a Viper was struck or simply the flaring engines etc. Firefly also has a good sense of "No Sound in Space". Just to add.
    I would say, decide which one of those two you want (sound/no sound) - if you pick sound. Add just a bit more of sound into the story. Also, another fun thing to do is to add the sounds of "sand" and other torn little pieces upon the fighter during battle. That should reveal that there have been so many explosions of vessels and stuff that the "dust cloud" he flew through wasn't a "dust cloud".

  36. #36
    Yeah the sound in space falls under my physics corrections xD I found that early on but decided to let it slide. I have him flying through debris at times I believe, and I do really enjoy the soundless BSG a lot.

    If you're referring to Karan speaking while the Mothership launches, it's due to her voice on the intercom so everyone in the fleet hears her, because she's "Big Sister" if you will, watching them and they hear her above all other priorities.

    I don't see much wrong with my story either but hey I'm not the one to decide that.

    Discussion threads are very interesting in concept, though they only truly work if feedback is given like the legacies one. though i haven't actually started that series yet. I'm quite happy with the feedback here, I'm satisfied knowing anyone is reading it at all tbh.

    Book 1 I plan to heavily rewrite so it could very well end up being in the 60,000 word range estimated. Still not much compared to the 270,000 you managed wow. Could make a 600 page book! I have more I want to add to the first. book 2 I think is fine, maybe a little bit of character added to Arazis aside from being emotionally traumatized (also gonna have a bit more emotion to the story possibly) from this rare event in the nebula. Book 3, well I haven't gotten this done yet xD but I think I'm just gonna review it to match it up with the rewrites of books 1 and 2 to flow a little better.

    I was thinking of adding a chapter before the first chapter in book 1. Him saying goodbye to family or whatever, not having his girlfriend in the south, say he has until sunset to go or something. Actually get him and his father in the same room. introduce his uncle early on, maybe have him go up on the transport WITH Jay who was saying his goodbyes and whatnot.

    He lives in a mudhut. yep. son of a planetary hero living in a mudhut as opposed to the metallic glassy surroundings of Tiir. It's his personal choice though seeing as he likes to keep a low profile. Until of course everyone on the MS finds out and then all hell breaks loose.

    This post is kind of everywhere :/ oh well it's my thread xD

    And I'll look into getting a beta reader I guess. To point out some things he finds odd or many spelling mistakes that I wouldn't be able to find on my own. And yeah someone who's not into Homeworld preferably, because one, it can be used to advertise how awesome the series is and maybe get a few more fans, two, it will give me more insight on how a larger audience is reacting, and three, i'm writing other scifi too so it's advice i can use later on too.

    I have a friend who writes harry potter fan fiction (there is way too much of that), but she doesn't exactly fit the scifiness of this...

    ----------

    And i don't mind every typo seeing how i would most likely end up reading it in word. i'll just correct them as i go along and include {weird brackets} for suggestions. unless you just want the suggestions. your story your rules

    Oh and did you get on archive of our own at all? yeah it's kind of useless at this stage as...well for one there's a waiting list and two there's no homeworld but mine there xD i just tag things like genocide and scifi and space battles for the hell of it. i've only got 8 hits so far so i don't think it's going anywhere just yet. I tried the ebook downloader, but the problem i have is i have an intro and it makes you name your chapters starting by One. So it's chapter one: Intro. and so on. just a minor bug i found. i still like ff.net's format easier to use anyway.

    I can make ebooks from word easier anyway using lulu publishing. it's in a private section so i can pretty much legally create my fanfics into ebooks for myself if i feel like it. i was having fun with it one day and now they're on my ipad xD

  37. #37
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Book 1 I plan to heavily rewrite so it could very well end up being in the 60,000 word range estimated. Still not much compared to the 270,000 you managed wow. Could make a 600 page book! I have more I want to add to the first. book 2 I think is fine, maybe a little bit of character added to Arazis aside from being emotionally traumatized (also gonna have a bit more emotion to the story possibly) from this rare event in the nebula. Book 3, well I haven't gotten this done yet xD but I think I'm just gonna review it to match it up with the rewrites of books 1 and 2 to flow a little better.
    Yeah don't worry about the numbers m8. I pretty much ramble on details because I always have the feeling I am missing out on something, not to mention the tons of characters that just keep popping up. But my main focus is to also put names on those characters who are NOT the usual hero type or protagonist. I try to give every one their piece of the cake or more. This however is bad imo because you commonly lose track of people and there are moments where I am writing in 1st person somewhat and then it all switches back to omniscient(spelling) narrative storytelling. But yeah, I'm just happy I just write .
    Don't worry about the numbers ;D You know the drill, class is better than mass - or quality > quantity.

    As for Book one, I only had the time to go throuhgh chap 6 and 7. I would like to read it one more time though.

    Found the idea interesting of a "shopping deck". If there is a suggestion I could make;
    (Speaking from my perspective) I always thought the MS was solely for the purpose of bring people from A (Kharak) to B(Hiigara) and thus was more set for a journey without much of a "city" inside. Don't get me wrong, I friggin' love the city/survival in big ship theme (it will be something like that in the third/fourth installment of ToVJ, so I'm learning from you too ;D) - reminds me of Macross (the anime) too.
    Nonetheless, I'm not sure, but it sounded like there was a shopping deck prior to the genocide. I thought it would be cool if the "Shopping Deck" would not exist just yet until post-genocide and a few days. Not sure if you had it that way - but the idea behind that idea would be to have Isel show him what the rescued people made; then again, it could get confusing as the MS was more of a deep space colony ship for that sole purpose rather than a city. However, maybe it is possible to twist it in away that non-cryogenetic-sleepin' refugees would be moving about the ship.

    Just an idea.


    Oh and did you get on archive of our own at all? yeah it's kind of useless at this stage as...well for one there's a waiting list and two there's no homeworld but mine there xD i just tag things like genocide and scifi and space battles for the hell of it. i've only got 8 hits so far so i don't think it's going anywhere just yet. I tried the ebook downloader, but the problem i have is i have an intro and it makes you name your chapters starting by One. So it's chapter one: Intro. and so on. just a minor bug i found. i still like ff.net's format easier to use anyway.
    Yeah I guess you have to put the intro into chapter 1 so it doesn't screw up your numbers. I hate that at FF.net (although I think it is possible to override that somehow) - but numbers aren't that important as long as you know where is up and down .

    Oh I'm not on AoOO (whoa, what an abbr. ^^), but I intend to. I like the format and font stuff.
    But I really like the forum stuff too, with [ indent] and stuff like that; got used to it. I have to see if I can actually fix the format for other sites. I still have fix FF.net uploads too with the knowledge I have.

    I have word with PDF function -- although that is at home, but I can always send the files home and somebody can PDF it hehe. Somehow, I'm just not ready to pdf it because there are so many holes and unfinished businesses to patch :/

    I have a friend who writes harry potter fan fiction (there is way too much of that), but she doesn't exactly fit the scifiness of this...
    I think you should still give it to her, but you better also give her something in return so that she will read it through - or tell her you really need her opinion as an outsider.
    Due to the fact that she writes harry potter Fanfiction (lol yeah, there are way too many ^^) and is not into scifi, she might lose interest early on.
    Hehe, not to insult her, but she appears to be unclean

    And i don't mind every typo seeing how i would most likely end up reading it in word. i'll just correct them as i go along and include {weird brackets} for suggestions. unless you just want the suggestions. your story your rules
    Whoa thanks man .
    Yeah brackets sound cool, but you don't have to do it that style. That was the style of the beta reader who also used colored text and the .docx format so he could correct stuff etc with visible aides. I will open that Discussion thread and you can point out the suggestions or goofs (if they are very extreme hehe).
    But other than that, I will be having OpenOffice's spellchecker so that should give me some help since back that then, I had a very old WordProgram.

  38. #38
    I'm never too worried about numbers. Look at Children of Kadesh Book 1. It's under 50k words, but it is by far one of the best scifi's I've ever read. Right up there in my favourite 5 with Rendezvous With Rama, Dune, Galileo's Dream and the Mars Trilogy.

    I did have the mall-type thing set up post-genocide I guess I didnt write it down. Because if you're gonna be stuck on a rusty old ship for a year, you're gonna need clothing and entertainment and other stuff.

    I think you should still give it to her, but you better also give her something in return so that she will read it through - or tell her you really need her opinion as an outsider.
    Due to the fact that she writes harry potter Fanfiction (lol yeah, there are way too many ^^) and is not into scifi, she might lose interest early on.
    Hehe, not to insult her, but she appears to be unclean
    I'm still gonna send it to her. She said she'd read it start to finish anyway so that's good. She's just glad to have a friend who's also a fellow fanfiction writer. I said I'd get around to her's, but it's romance and harry potter and uhh -.- can't judge before I read it though. Except for twilight I just could not get through that. Too terrible for me. Just my opinion. And I laughed at the "unclean" part. (Figuring out teh forumz more and more. Now I know how to make quote bubbles xD)

    Unfinished business. It's the worst.

    And I think I'll just use your discussion thread for anything I find. A lot more practical. But yes I read them in word usually because I don't have internet all the time and the school blocks ff.net and relicnews (I'm usually the one to get the work done before everyone else so I have lots of time). It also allows me to format them when I get extremely bored. Like I formatted all of CoK Bk1 before I read it so it would go quicker. I also corrected a few errors for the hell of it while I was at it. And I'll probably end up doing the same to yours.



    Also, this weekend is Thanks Giving, I don't know if every country has this holiday I know the States have Turkey Day or something like that. I have family coming over and possibly won't get any writing time (unless I do it at 1-3AM as usual). Just warning in advance. I might get around to it and I might not.

    Peace, Doberman211

  39. #39
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Oki - Managed to read through to chapter 10. :>

    So far I did not find anything that was somewhere "wrong" or such.

    The only things I can say so far are suggestions. It is common that people would rather like to see kushan names (or rare-names) rather than ~earth types. For instance, Eric is okay, but such Rob for instance is imo a bit too earth-like. However, this can easily be used if it is connected (or a short name) to a kushan name like Sarobien etc. Just a suggestion here hehe. Also, you had neat names for the various argicultural foods. I really liked the root that tastes like nothing unless something is added. Reminds me of tofu xD.

    Another thing I noticed is that the chapters 6 through 10 could almost be merged into two or three chapters. However this would break up the neat split of 20 chapters. Instead, it would be better to expand a bit on a few of those chapters. Something that could be added could be things like hints that the ship is still in hyperspace. I am not sure if I missed the indication but is it so that they have been in hyperspace profile for weeks until chapter 10 (and ongoing)?

    I'd also suggest adding more sounds, smells and other small things regarding sences - although this was well done with the humidity smell around chapter 9.

    One more thing I liked (and I hope I understood it correctly !) was the part about the dream and Mark aka Elmer's old family. I am still not too sure if I understood it all correctly so I will be reading chapter 9 one more time.

  40. #40
    I'm expanding on a lot in the rewrite. It just all flew by so fast! Gotta slow myself down a bit. And yes, in this fic, hyperspace takes weeks and sometimes months to get very far. I'll take the naming into consideration too. I mentioned sometime earlier that it was a little odd having names like John, Rob and Mark with stuff like Isel and Karu. I explained Jay, so I guess they'll all be shortenings of some unpronounceable Kushan name.

    Sure I can add some creaking in the hull and some extra odors.

    Rereading chapter 9 myself now. Yeah. That dream. xD The wonderful power of the Agriisak. Noticing some errors too.

    Also in book 3 the Agriisak is more of a subconscious effect. You don't necessarily need to be thinking heavily about something, it's what is hidden in your mind, your more vivid memories, good or bad. Even suppressed memories. It's a neat little root.
    Last edited by doberman211; 8th Oct 11 at 11:47 PM.

  41. #41
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Oh lol I just noticed that I was reading book 1 and not the rewritten-one although I now see that you added a (Ignore this) tag for now.

    Tat's cool that time is considered into the hyperspace flight especially weeks to months that could just bore the hell out of anybody who is not in cryo-sleep.

    About the names, it is not mandetory to change them or worry to much about it, but just for the HW-verse, you actually did well on naming the fruits/vegetable/weeds. Imo, John is just a bit too earthly but do not fix that now ;D. It is a pain to replace all names. Just remember for future additional characters and fics. I started another thread regarding names too. It is nothing special there but there are cool name generators and anagram-tools to develop some unusual names to start with.
    You are also keeping the names simple, which is good in the end. I think it is safe to say that people have enough trouble with long and hard to pronounce names hehe.

    Getting more into the /suggestion thing
    Remember that it is not needed to overcomplicate the names. John could be derived from Jonah, just have somebody mention his full name and he'd say "Hey man, John is enough."
    For instance, I also liked the name Nathan as for a later character in ToVJ II. While it actually sounds good already, I wanted to have it a bit more with a twist. I wiki'ed/googled the "name's heritage"(sorry I forgot the english term) and figured it was also based on Nathaniel. Soooo...
    I played around a bit and out came "Athaniel". Bit strange, but easy to pronounce in the end ^^.

    I spotted some typos too but those aren't groundbreaking. Not to forget that you are writing around 3AM (hehe I do that too).
    I forgot to write down the errors that were confusing on the other hand. There are some three paragraphs hidden throughout chapter 3 and 7 somewhere. Doh!

    They weren't groundbreaking but more of a mishap of missing/broken words that break the flow of the sentence. But anyhow, a non-HW betareader with find them all instantly !

    I can't really apply for betareading as I my english is not as it used to be. And not to forget, my head auto-corrects what I read and I actually read not just word by word but by grasping the sense of the thing without worrying about nitpicks. It helps to imagine the current situation, but it sucks if you are trying to find obvious mistakes or are writing ^^. There are similar mistakes even the Life on Curse upload of mine hehe.

  42. #42
    It's just like the name of a Taiidan character later on. Her name is Triikor, but then i found out that those are Kushan names for desert animals and not Taiidan names. But it's kinda late to change that now. I'm not changing any, but i did what you said earlier on Jay already so might as well do them all right? or most. i think some are fine. i'll reread these posts when i get that far and figure it out later. i'd like to keep book 3 flowing with the first two, but i've included some minor things that weren't there in the originals but planned on in the rewrite.

    And yeah ignore the rewrite if you've already started. it's not completed and it switches some timeline things (having the first great wastelands only days away and the second a month away)

    And yeah you're reading stuff i wrote in grade 9 high school xD so yeah it needs rewriting big time. I'll get a beta eventually. i don't exactly know where to look though. Do i go to the battlestar galactica section because the betas are separated by series too. i wish it was by genre. search for scifi betas instead of Homeworld betas.

    Either way i have house work to do today so no writing for me... i cant wait to get back to it.

  43. #43
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Argh I hate such interferences hehe ;D.
    But don't force yourself on rewriting names. It is better to just have the new characters or recently introduced characters be updated .

  44. #44
    all the recent characters are named oddly already so no problems there.

  45. #45

    My friend made another cover design. What do you think?



    I'm not too fond on how dark Hiigara is.

  46. #46
    Book 3 Chapter 13 posted.

    WOOO YEAH! FINALLY A FRAKING CHAPTER! Don't all applaud at once... lol.

    Sorry about the hiatus from writing. I could go into how busy I've been with school and such, but tbh it's just been laziness. This one is longer than usual, but half of it is also written something like 2 weeks apart, but I read it over and it seems fine. And I won't make any promises, because anyone following this knows how terrible I am at keeping those kinds of things, but possibly maybe perhaps another chapter this weekend.

    Have a good read, and I'll be back soon. I hope.

  47. #47
    Book 3 Chapter 14 posted.

    Hey what do you know I actually did finish another chapter. Not a long one, but a very important one indeed.

  48. #48
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Looks cool The wings are just a bit too HW2'ish, but after all, the design just rules.

    Okay I finally managed to read chapter 11 and 12.

    Again, here, I must say that things went just a bit too fast and after the ingame HW1 script. I know it is asking for much to demand more content-expansions. I would say Mark should reveal that he was somewhat happy to be back in space or "finally something new" after flying through hyperspace for so long - This attitude would change the moment the Turanics pop up.
    I like the event of the poor devil who got sucked out into space when Mark went "Hopefully they weren't loosing atmosphere... oh shit!"

    I liked the dogfight part. I just think there should be more explained on the Turanic side; perhaps some more detail on their resilience.

    But in the end, you actually managed to write a full combat plot without the actual need of adding trillions of rambling detail !

    One suggestion I would add - when Mark talks about repairs for his busted thrusters - is to have Mark explain that the Blade fighter is capable of ejecting the entire engine segment (plus fuel pods), so a suppport frigate can insert a spare or some sort of auxiliary unit into the aft of the fighter. You know, those little technical details - but those are not crucial either.

  49. #49
    Yeah the wings I've just made into my fanon though. They're there to stay I'm afraid I'm assuming you mean the book covers.

    In the rewrite the first Great Wastelands is only a day from the first one. I've placed it in a sort of "Oort Cloud" to compare to our solar system dynamics. After all they were said to keep guard on the perimeter of the Kharak system and not to retreat at first sign of a threat. I've rearranged that whole area of the fic. But yes, everyone will be glad to finally kick some Taiidan ass once out of that long hyperspace. Which pretty much means most of book 1 will be in hyperspace...damn now I gotta figure out some more interesting or important add-ins to not make it long and boring. Maybe a cult of Gaalsien? I could do that. Have a few dozen sneak on the scaffold via EVA from a clan-launched shuttle. It would give more of a character build to Eric who honestly wants nothing to do with his clan and is mistreated and misunderstood because of them.

    Explanation on the Turanic side...you mean having a third person view from a Turanic pilot? The way I've formatted my scene shifts that would be kind of hard unless the pilot was captured. That too could be accomplished and add another depth to the story...you know what? I actually like that idea. Have a small chunk of the story from a suffocating Turanic pilot trying to make his way in the dreaded engineering division (slave labor for all the prisoners).

    The engine section, as you will read, is going to need complete reconstruction. if you look at a model of a Blade, I've pictured the damage all the way down to the vent box thing in the center. It looks like it was split basically. But he refuses to scrap it as you will read. Good idea though if refueling the ship meant jettisoning and replacing canisters. Something to consider there, but I think the fuel line is far more practical due to them needing to save as many resources as possible. Having spare parts on the support frigates is also an interesting idea, like say a sensor module got shot at too many times, eject it and dock with a frigate for a replacement.

    But yes it is discussions like these that I wait for here. Anyone else have anything to say just throw it in. Because I know by the hit counter I get roughly 10 views a day and I doubt they're all Sparki. Not mandatory or anything, but you know it'd be nice to hear something...anyone on book 3 yet? Lol this place is as casual as can be man.

    Anyway, After thinking bout it for a good 10 minutes, I know how to rewrite book 1 into an epic of all epicness.

  50. #50
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Germany - In "Yurop"!
    Forgot to add,
    you could also add a short paragraph of Mark's concern about the present and the future, like worrying that about this oneway trip to Hiigara and what he would do if he would ever survive it all the way there.

    damn now I gotta figure out some more interesting or important add-ins to not make it long and boring. Maybe a cult of Gaalsien? I could do that. Have a few dozen sneak on the scaffold via EVA from a clan-launched shuttle. It would give more of a character build to Eric who honestly wants nothing to do with his clan and is mistreated and misunderstood because of them.
    I like the idea of saboteurs. Reminds me of that (more likely) turanic saboteur who planted the bomb in the Kuun-Lann during hyperspace flight.
    Would be cool to see how Eric copes with such problem as they are from his cursed kiith.

    Explanation on the Turanic side...you mean having a third person view from a Turanic pilot? The way I've formatted my scene shifts that would be kind of hard unless the pilot was captured. That too could be accomplished and add another depth to the story...you know what? I actually like that idea. Have a small chunk of the story from a suffocating Turanic pilot trying to make his way in the dreaded engineering division (slave labor for all the prisoners).
    I somewhat forgot that this is a 1st person/PoV story. I am far too used to the omniscent 3rd person narrative thing.
    Okay that is more of a challenge, but then maybe have Mark reveal that the turanic rockrats were very resilient and maybe had mass-driver shells bounce off them on certain angles or such. Just a bit of space-dogfight stuff just to show that he had to have luck and a decent aim landing hits rather than oneshot kills. (Mass Drivers are actually very powerful, I'd just assume that it takes some precise hits to do critical damage).

    Yeah, it's not just me m8
    I'm sure there are other readers too. However, let's not forget that many have read tons of HW fics over the years. FF.net and other places may have more traffic - especially FF.net for all the random people who just want to read new scifi stuff, so HW is just perfect.

    By the way,
    I just dug out an old link from a fanfic/Creative writing forum.
    http://forums.spacebattles.com/forumdisplay.php?f=32

    I think your story would fit there too.

    I never got a reply or anything but I just tossed a synopsis and a link just to show that I am writing something. Maybe you can do it too.
    I modelled a bit not to mention to much as people could easily assume its just another scifi anime or something like that.

    http://forums.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=141241

    Nonetheless, feel free to open a thread of Exile's Return !

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •