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  1. #101
    DMz, last I heared you are getting help from our team, or did I misunderstand something? I would love to see your stuff in game and I think you have every reason to keep up the amazing stuff you do! I am trying to learn as much as I can about animation too now because it is a skill badly needed. It is very screwy at best though. By time my friend, by time.
    Anyway, I would hate to see you get frustrated over something like delay because this community need talented people like you.
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    its not you mate its the damn oe id love to get it working properly so i would be able to do more for myself aswell, like learning to annimate in it.

    its a great hinderance and annoyance when you cant get the damn thing to work.

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    Well, like I said, if you want help getting it to work, I can offer my assistance, as I'm on a 64-bit O/S as well.

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    Its good to see dedicated modelers! Can not wait for release!
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    this is what ive got now as a support\command halftrack m5 sofar.

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    what im hoping is to get this in with the mortar halftrack and the quad m5 as upgrade options hidden in state.

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    Nice, Nice, Nice!

    I love it! And as you can guess I have "ideas" for where this puppy will fit

    Love it DMz!

    Glad we're able to get you some help as well.
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    this is going to normandy44 sweeten asked for it and several others as a favour.

    basically finished, any other details like zimm ect can easily be done on the skin, ill do the wreck & mesh it sometime over the weekend. though after looking at relics default p4 mesh, which is a pigs ear, i may just remesh it from scratch, which may take a little longer.

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    Isnt this already done? Doesnt the Botb have it and didnt Td made the one in Botb? Or am I mixing up something? But great model

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    dunno m8, was asked for so i did it, i dont think botb has one, i think its a sturm tiger not a brummbar. perhaps sweeten wasnt happy with the one they had, anyways its done now .

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    DMz is correct. Battle of the Bulge has a Sturmpanzer VI (Sturmtiger), not a Sturmpanzer IV (Brummbär). The former has a 38cm RW61 and the latter has a 15cm sIG.

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    15cm sIG? Actually it's the Skoda developed 15cm StuH 43 L/12...gun could fire shells meant for the 15cm sIG though.

    Looking forward to seeing the Stupa released

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    Same thing, different name:
    Skoda developed the new sIG and manufactured 6 in March, 40 in April and 14 in May. In the same month the new gun was designated “15 cm Sturmhaubitze 43/1 (L/12)” (assault howitzer).
    Semantics.
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    Huh - you learn something new every day

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    It's more correct to say StuH in this case, since it was a modified sIG, but either way the difference between the Sturmpanzer IV and VI was explained one way or another.

    And DMz, it looks good. Are the skirts going to be a separate mesh so that modders can toggle them with states?

    Also, here is a good article on the Sturmpanzer IV that has a lot of good pictures and information for the early and late models.

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    skirts and main body are relics origionals, so ill leave them as is, ill try and uvmap the new parts onto the origional p4, but the map actually sux. as you can see someone doing the uv map was on drugs or worse. the images are of whats left of the default p4 map once my addons ect have been removed. makes you wonder how anyone ever got a decent looking skin on to it.

    images are from uvlayout v2 pro, max 8, and milkshape 1.8.5. they all say the same thing, someone couldent uvmap for toffee.

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    least now i know why all the p4 models are covered in mud and rust lol.
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  16. #116
    DMz is correct. Battle of the Bulge has a Sturmpanzer VI (Sturmtiger), not a Sturmpanzer IV (Brummbär). The former has a 38cm RW61 and the latter has a 15cm sIG.
    And the difference between the 15cm StuH43 and the 38cm RW61 is the difference between a single house losing half its side, and the neighbourhood losing half its side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmhaubitze
    And the difference between the 15cm StuH43 and the 38cm RW61 is the difference between a single house losing half its side, and the neighbourhood losing half its side.
    LOL

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    roflmao

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    uv is getting there... but needs a lot more work

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    Good one Sturm! lol
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    I just thought that I should point out that, although the model is superb, there is a slight inaccuracy. It appears that you have combined aspects of both the mid and late production models, namely the hexagonal superstructure (mid) and the ball mounted MG (late).

    The mid production model would be best suited for the Normandy time frame, since the late production model started production during Normandy (and would not have outfitted line units at that time). So, all that would need to be changed is the removal of the ball mounted MG.

    To make up for the loss of the ball mounted MG, you could always add a pintle mount for an MG on top, for the loader. I'd have to find a picture of how it was mounted, but it was entirely possible for the loader to use an MG34 from his hatch, similar to the StuG series.

    Here is the article I linked above that explains the differences between the models, which should help immensely and possibly give you some ideas (like the loader's MG). No offense meant, just pointing that out. Keep up the good work, DMz!

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    already changed it to this 3 or 4 days ago .

    http://www.bredow-web.de/Panzer_und_..._brummbar.html

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    Cool, so you went with the late production model?

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    Just to be specific:

    During mid '44 when the Normandy campaign was occuring, there were no Brummbär in that area. The Brummbär on the Eastern Front would have been the mid production model at that time. When Brummbär began arriving to the Western Front, in time for the Ardennes offensive, they were the late production model, and similarly there would have been late production models arriving in the Eastern Front too at the same time.

    So the late production model is accurate for Eastern Front and Western Front mods in '44 and '45, and the mid production model is only accurate for Eastern Front mods for '44 and earlier.

    Brummbär were initially classified as Sturmpanzer, so were not under the jurisdiction of the artillery like the Sturmgeschütz (Assault Guns) were. like the StuIG33 they replaced, they were under the jurisdiction of the armoured branch, and organized into independent units that were attached to divisions as needed. Primarily used for streetfighting, where their low velocity 150mm cannon could level houses but not have to deal with enemy armour, they were successful. However the early and mid production models lacked an MG, which made them very vulnerable if operating without infantry support. The special HEAT round issued to them could bust open any tank on the Eastern Front, but it's low velocity and poor aerodynamics relegated it to short-range defense only, and the Brummbär's use in streetfighting made enemy tank engagements very rare. They were almost never used in anti-armour role, so it's effectiveness for that job is mostly theoretical. Frontal armour was also signficant, easily deflecting 76mm shots from T34 tanks at even close range, and difficult for the 85mm to punch through at long ranges.

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    should have posted it with my reply sorry

    http://www.theeasternfront.co.uk/Veh...pelledguns.htm
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    Ah, here's a picture of the loader's hatch and MG. Pretty neat.


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    From the 3rd Series the Fahrersehklappe 80 was replaced by periscopes. Yours Brummbar is the 4th serie.

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    The SchĂĽrze "skirt" not is an basis equipment, just upgrade.
    according to me
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    @Thicky83, yes sorted that already and thanks for the excellan drawing, they were very useful. also the skirts are just upgrades theyre hidden in model state. anyway finished item is having its final uv map touchups now ready to be annimated for n44.

    i was bored so i came up with these,, falls in my i like strange thing catogory.

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    if its needed by anyone ill uvmap it and they can have it. course theyll have to annimate it themselves .

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    have an emplaced version of this aswell in a heavily moded bofor pit (reshaped sections added and removed ect).

    also if theres any need for the dukw on first page let me know because if not ill not waste time finishing the wreck and uvmap.
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    Great M5 carrier and Maxon trailer. Please tell me the Maxon is getting animated and all that?

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    ive not asked anyone as yet. i probebly wont ask till after version 2 of n44, as td is very busy.

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    They look great!

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    The M5 version is also used in Forgotten Hope 2 Mod for Battlefield 2 at the fight of Villers Bocage. I think, it would be great addition.

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    Huetti, Really? I'll have to load up FH2 real quick and check...

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    Yeah, in the British Base. Its quite fast and handled right I killed at least 7 Germans in a row

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    Awesome, a Stuart "Jalopy"

    Those were used by the British Armoured Regiments as an alternative to the Stuarts they were fielding for reconnaissance. They figured the 37mm was obsolete, and lowering the tank's profile would help immensely in avoiding detection, and started putting them to use in Italy first. They weren't used as infantry carriers, just as turretless tanks for reconnaissance.

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    The man gets a cigar, it was Designated T8 this one is a T8-E1 which laid mines through a hatch in the floor, also nicknamed stuart recce mk1 and stuart kangaroo. though obviously it wasnt a troop transport but a recon vehical. quite common with recon units from 1943 on as they did indeed considered the 37mm gun obsolete.

    http://freepages.military.rootsweb.a...togallery.html
    http://www.mvt-essex.org.uk/members_...rtis_rick.html
    http://www.steeldragons.net/T8E1one.html

    and a very well made rc version which i used as a guide.

    http://www.customrcmodels.com/M5Stuart/id89.htm

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    I think most of the Stuart Jalopies were modified Stuart III tanks (which were M3 Stuarts). Doesn't mean there were no M5 Stuarts converted, just that one was more common than the other.

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    8th Kings Royal Irish Hussars were mostly mk 5 stuarts they all have the exhaust mufflers on the back which is the tell tale givaway between the mk3 and 5 . my moded ones is a t8-e1 mk3.

    the T8 was offered to battalion commanders as a modification.
    Where as the t8-e1 was only offered to regimental commanders and they had a limited number they could allocate for conversion. dont ask me why was probebly like selling cars, you dont sell top of the range for the same price as the standard model .

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    Well when the Churchill VIII first became available, there weren't many around, so the platoon subalterns were usually the ones riding in them. Though if you're the commander, and your platoon gets one tank that's almost invulnerable to 88mm guns, I wouldn't be surprised if you call dibs.

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    cool an M5 it'll be great if they put it in the blitzkrieg mod as a replacement for the jeep scout car when you choose the armour doctrine and word on the status of the chaffe or is this the wrong thread?

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    Replace a Jeep with a light tank?

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    well the light tank is only equipped with a 50 cal

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    Yes, the Stuart with no turret was used as a light recon tank for Brits, so its a good idea to replace the jeep with this when you choose armor doctrine.

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    I wouldn't mind replacing the BC with one, better MG and armour for minus the troop capacity. If it gets a mine drop ability, then that'll be about as useful as the button, for about the same price too.

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    @ Lethal Dosage

    The problem is, they want and an unarmored jeep with a .30 cal replaced by a trurretless light armored vehicle with a .50 cal...

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    we have an m20 for that.

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    Guys, the US didn't use the Stuart "Jalopy", only the British did. The US Army kept the turrets on their Stuarts, and kept on using them as light tanks far longer than other nations did. Giving it to the US Armor Doctrine would be as unhistorical as giving the British the Pershing.

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    we have an m20 for that.
    as i said

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    You made one?

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