[CR] New Gamespot Preview and New Screens

[FooF]

With all the focus on the new video, no one must have noticed the new screenshots at Gamespot.

Some really nice looking pics. Wraithguard (multiple pics), GUO, CL w/Lightning Claws, Dread w/Lascannon, Librarian and a Techmarine with a Melta (something?)

I notices a few other things: synapse now has a green reticle under the unit (rather than the head glow aura) and we're seeing new MP maps

Take a look.

Edit after the merge: Preview here.

[DNA61289]

WQow they look awesomely amazing!!!!!

Wraithguard FTW!

edit: OMG their hiding behind a falcon wreck!!

edit2: the dread has a multimetla!!

[Bastonne1]

AWESOME!!!

one of the pics i saw a thousand son dead on the ground.
dread with MULTIMELTA!
TM now has a melta gun. interesting.
i think wraithguard have a warlock upgrade.
plague marines with MLs.

cool FooF.

[IcyPenguin]

Awesome. Though those banshees don't exactly look like they're having a fun time with those Bloodletters .

Also, image 15 -- we can see a bunch of elfdar fighting Chaos, but the most peculiar thing is the Blood Ravens termie that doesn't appear to be shooting at the Eldar.

In fact, it honestly seems like the Eldar and SM are allied. Maybe the return of the Biel-Tan Eldar from the first Dawn of War, and maybe Macha along with it in the CR campaign!

Or I could be wrong and it's a skirmish game :<

[Bloodspeaker]

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! it seems i got my wish chaos termies , thanks foof!
Can anyone tell if this termie is the chaos lord or from a squad.

[FooF]

Looks to me like the Lord. On a related note, those lightning claws are sick.

[DNA61289]

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/...&mode=previews

So there are 7 victory points in FFA

[Logic_Bomb]

And FFA has 2v2v2 mode!

[Busby]

[GUO]can vomit bile on its enemies or lasso them closer with a strand of its exposed intestines

Oh god that is awesome.

The faction's commander abilities seem very useful, but several of these will also be best used by skillful micromanagers, such as the plague champion's "mass warp" teleportation spell and the chaos sorcerer's "noxious cloud"

I'm going to guess that is a typo; the commanders have the wrong spells.

chaos lord shrines will briefly summon some bloodletter melee daemons that will disappear after a short period; plague champion shrines will heal nearby allies; and chaos sorcerer shrines will cause nearby units to infiltrate and can also fire energy bolts like a turret

Huh. That's actually rather cool. It fits the Gods nicely, and sounds quite useful and unique.

[Saunders]

The GUO looks huge.

[Penitent Engine]

I know it's just a perspective shot but the Wraithguards range looks quite decent.

[Croaxleigh]

The Space Hulk map for MP sounds interesting... though I was hoping that they'dve gone back to their previous idea and created a Space Hulk mode a la TLS instead. Ah, well.

[Shaitan]

Okay so since this is a MP preview I'm going to assume the screenshots are from MP. First screenshot shows, Plague Marines with Missile Launchers and the Techmarine with a Meltagun. Cool.

5th screenshot. It looks like the SM Dreadnaught has a side mounted weapon that is not an Autocannon (I could be wrong). I think it might be a multimelta.

Also Chaos Lord with Termi Armour and some sort of Lightning Claws perhaps.

Chaos Dread with something that is not the missile launcher upgrade.

And I guess a force commander with termi armour and a flamethrower, which isn't new but might mean its actually useful now?

Edit: Shucks theres a thread for the screens.. Sorry.

[Croaxleigh]

Bastonne: Are you talking about the guy on the ground in blue and gold armor in pic 14? If he's Thousand Sons, he's definitely not a Rubric... you can see his face, which Rubric Marines don't have. One of the pics did have what looked like scattered bits of armor in piles, though... if they did sneak Rubrics in, that'd be an interesting death effect for souls trapped in armor.

[Penitent Engine]

Then again, in free-for-all, if you make too aggressive a push too early and take a quick point lead, you're basically painting a giant bull's eye on your forehead as being the single biggest threat whose point advantage must be neutralized.

I have missed FFA, I love ganging up on the most powerful player, it's so funny

[Shaitan]

Screen 14, can anyone tell what the Chaos Dreanaught is armed with, also there is a Chaos Marine just above the group of cultists, can anyone tell what sort of weapon he's holding? It might just be a missile launcher but I'm not sure.

[DNA61289]

The dreadnought has a multimetla for sure(since I own the model and compared the two). The chaos space marine has a lascanon, since it looks to have a dragons head on it.

edit: also, taking a closer look at the chaos space marines, I have determined that they are marked CSM. So their might be some physical difference when you mark a squad.

Edit2: also look at that dreadnought it has the same type of scheme as the two CSM, so could this mean you can mark the dread or vehicles for that matter aswell?

[Shaitan]

Cool. So I guess the two upgrades for the Chaos Dread are the multi melta or the missile launcher? Even though the normal dread also seems to still be getting the multi melta as well it's still pretty cool.

[krusher]

OMg those pics look sick, totally digging the CL lightning claws

[Croaxleigh]

Merging the two Gamespot threads to allow discussion of both aspects of the new Gamespot stuff.

[Shaitan]

DNA: I think Dreads can be marked as it seemed to say so in the preview.

[Buguba]

Is anyone else finding a slight amount of hilarity in the concept of the SM drop pod coming down in the middle of a Space Hulk wreck?

[Shaitan]

LOL. They're shooting the drop pod through the hull of the ship I suppose.

[FooF]

The "pile of armor" in screenshot 9 (middle of the screen) is definitely a CSM but there's a loyalist SM armor pile further up and to the right. All the exploding bodies and the TM getting knocked back kind of points to some kind of cone attack coming from the GUO.

My guess is that Nurgle's Rot just liquified friend and foe alike (but the TM had more HP and didn't get gibbed), leaving just armor?

[Cr4tZ]

Screen 10; Am I seeing plasma and meltagun on those CSM? Im talking about the pic with farseer doing levitation.

[Kharrak]

I see they updated the Plague Marine's missile launcher - previously they had the Space Marine missile launcher, but now they have the appropriate traitor variant

Also, yes, I agree that those abilities talked about in the preview are mixed around - the Sorcerer should have the teleport, and the Plague Lord should have the Noxious Aura.

Also... Sorcerer has MIND CONTROL. >:3

And yes. Chaos Lord with Lightning claws is the thing of Heavy Metal Album Covers.

[Demonhorde]

TM has melta sweeeet....

[Steel*Faith]

Are you talking about the guy on the ground in blue and gold armor in pic 14? If he's Thousand Sons, he's definitely not a Rubric...

What if he's an Aspiring Sorcerer (Aspiring Champion) for a Thousand Son squad? They still made of flesh under their armor. Tzeentch Dreadnought has the coloring of the Thousand Sons too.

Anyone notice that Plaguemarines have chainswords in MP too? It also looks like the Chaos HQ changes themes depending on the commander you pick!

Tyranid synapse graphic FX are improved it looks like.

Question: In the last pictures of the Eldar and Chaos fighting in the snow; what kind of unit is that with a Accursed Crozius?! Is that a Dark Apostle (Chaos Chaplain)? I can't tell if that's an upgraded Tzeentch Sorcerer, or a Dark Apostle. I think it's a Sorcerer with a weapon upgrade though.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images...0screen015.jpg

[Cortlendt]

How Rubrics are different from Thousand Sons regular marines visually?

[Steel*Faith]

No, they're the same thing. Except the ones that are still flesh are the Sorcerers & Aspiring Sorcerers, which guide and lead the tomb encased Rubric Marines.

Edit: misread your post. Rubrics are completely sealed in their armor, so they must have a helmet. They have no flesh or body anymore (spirit inside armor). While Sorcerer & Aspiring Sorcerer Thousand Sons are still living beings, and don't have to wear a helmet necessarily.

[Malachi]

Heh, so the Sorc gets some kind of mass teleport? Funny, it seems I'll end up playing 2 heroes that have that then, as I'm currently playing the WSE, and have been looking forward to playing the Sorc since CR was announced.

But, those claws on the Chaos Lord are such a pure WIN that I might give him a go once in a while just to use them.

[Shuma]

Question: In the last pictures of the Eldar and Chaos fighting in the snow; what kind of unit is that with a Accursed Crozius?! Is that a Dark Apostle (Chaos Chaplain)? I can't tell if that's an upgraded Tzeentch Sorcerer, or a Dark Apostle. I think it's a Sorcerer with a weapon upgrade though.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images...0screen015.jpg

It's just a Staff, and yes it's a Sorceror.

[Saunders]

How Rubrics are different from Thousand Sons regular marines visually?

No, they're the same thing. Except the ones that are still flesh are the Sorcerers & Aspiring Sorcerers, which guide and lead the tomb encased Rubric Marines.

Edit: misread your post. Rubrics are completely sealed in their armor, so they must have a helmet. They have no flesh or body anymore (spirit inside armor). While Sorcerer & Aspiring Sorcerer Thousand Sons are still living beings, and don't have to wear a helmet necessarily.

*facepalm* You're overthinking the question.

Yes, rubric marines visually are different from standard CSM.



They've got that whole egyptian thing going on.

[Kharrak]

It's more Aztec than Egyptian, according to the writers of the novels :P

Also, in terms of the Sorcerer's teleport - we don't know the specifics yet, or how it will compare to the WSE's teleport. Hell, maybe it's a mass teleport for enemies, not allies! Teleport blob away!

I'm also rather interested in how the mind control will work. I'm doubtful that it will work on enemy commanders... but will it turn an entire squad to your command, or just a single member? What are the unit-type restrictions on which it can be used? Does it affect vehicles? How long is the duration?

I'm itching to find out!

[konfeta]

Good lord, how much longer are they going to milk that "lightning pew" graphic for?

Warlock, Warlock Guardian, Seer Council, Farseer, Destructor, D-Cannon, and now Librarian and Wraithguard.

Other than that the screens kewl

[Saunders]

Aztec? I don't buy it :P

If that's what they want to say about it...

[saalkin]

From what I know the thousand sons were more Aztecy per-heresy.

Also what screen shot is the tech marine in? I can't find it for the life of me.

[Karon]

However, controlling strategic points also still limits your unit cap, so if you hang back and hide, you'll not only be surpassed in point counts by more-ambitious players, you'll also limit the size of your armies and won't be able to really mass troops.

This pleases me.

[Wickedvicar]

LOL. They're shooting the drop pod through the hull of the ship I suppose.

Yeah where are the boarding torpedoes?!? No biggy, screens are looking good.

[konfeta]

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/...ng/images/0/1/

That's because it was teh first screeny, saalkin. This is the case of looking too hard!

[Cortlendt]

I got the impression from the screens that cultists are inhumanly tall.

[Kharrak]

EgonSpengler on the mind control:

Subjugate is a 15 second duration, and it immobilizes your sorcerer while it's active. It works on non-hero infantry squads. Please wait until you play with it before calling imba

http://www.gamereplays.org/community...&#entry6865396

[DNA61289]

That's a mix up, I've emailed our PR guys to ask Gamespot to edit it.

Sorcerer has mass warp, plague champ has noxious cloud.

just to confirm it.

[Kam!kazee]

ha, subjugating an ASM squad just before they jump could be very awesome, use the jump to disrupt the sm army instead!

Would suck if it was a T3 wargear though.

[Uncle Benny]

Looks completely epic, just salivating now! Only gripe is that the GUO looks so... evil. It's just not right, he is Grandfather Nurgle, friendly and jolly the whole time while he infects you, infests you and liquefies you to goo. It's so much crazier to have a smiling, jovial blob of rotting flesh.
Think the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man: terrifying avatar of an ancient dark god, built like John Goodman and smiling while he wipes you off of the bottom of his marshmellow-y foot. Spooky!

Of the FC with Lightning Claws, YOWZA. Yes, please.

[konfeta]

It better be a T3 Wargear. Subjugating a Banshee squad in middle of 2/3 Guardian/Ranger squads is basically autowin.

"Lulz you lost your melee squad and now your entire blob is suppressed. Any last words?"

Relic's balance team isn't the greatest at catching fundamental design imba. Wouldn't be surprising if they failed to think this ability through.

[FooF]

Subjugate will be ridiculous, in a good way. Assuming the cast range isn't all that great, the real boon of the ability is to have the enemy focus fire his own troops.

I mean, in the Eldar example, if you were to Subjugate the Shee squad (in the middle of 2 GU), who do you fire at? The Sorc that will probably hold up under the fire for a bit or the Shees that are massacring your GU? If the Shees close into melee, you essentially have a GU squad pouring fire down on the Shees while the Shees wipe the other GU. By the time it's over, the Eldar player is down one GU squad (or most of one) and has lost a few models on Shees or they're all at half health.

You could repeat the scenario with CSM in back firing and I can see the awesome-ness. However, I fully expect this to be T2 or T3. There's no way it's in T1. Question will be if you have full control over the subjugated unit or if it's AI and just forces them to attack whatever is nearby.

[Ruzdreg]

Again, we've only seen units we already know about, now think back to that French magazine list - it lisetd all these units and then Relic stated that was not the whole list.


So we still have yet to see all of Chaos!

[Shuma]

I bet you're wrong. Relic could've said that the list wasn't complete simply because it didn't mention the Marks.

[Pellucid]

I really can't imagine subjugate being anything but ridiculously imba. We'll see, but really for all practical purposes it's FAR more brutal than a stun, and wouldn't you use a 15-second stun that immobilized your commander? I would without a second thought.