[SS] Black Templars - Kaurava Crusade - Dawn of War is Not Dead (link in 1st post)

**zulmetefza** · 26th Feb 12 1:44 PM

Hi. I have a question, (maybe a bug report):

I have a combiner mod, and one of the combined mods is Black Templars mod.

The problem is: While the Exorcist is firing falling projectiles normally, when the mod is loaded, it also fires horizontal missiles (like sm squad's missile launcher). I did not try the Black Templars alone yet, but still, the only possible error source seems like this. (Because other than that, only Bugfix mod contains exorcist.lua file)

Anybody can confirm? Any suggestions to solution?

**RMX** · 26th Feb 12 2:20 PM

I noticed the same. I'll let you know if I find a fix.

**zulmetefza** · 26th Feb 12 3:32 PM

Thank you. I want to compare the modded exorcist.lua with the original one, but couldn't find it.

**jONES1979** · 26th Feb 12 4:21 PM

Originally Posted by zulmetefza

Hi. I have a question, (maybe a bug report):
The problem is: While the Exorcist is firing falling projectiles normally, when the mod is loaded, it also fires horizontal missiles (like sm squad's missile launcher). I did not try the Black Templars alone yet, but still, the only possible error source seems like this.
Anybody can confirm? Any suggestions to solution?

Patch-02 is uploaded and waits for the moddb moderator's authorisation
http://www.moddb.com/mods/black-temp...sade/downloads

**zulmetefza** · 26th Feb 12 4:33 PM

Wow. That was quick. Thank you.

**RMX** · 27th Feb 12 1:08 PM

Missile seems fixed but I still get Torture amps. Is it just me? (I might have a file mess, so further assistance would be appreciated)

**zulmetefza** · 28th Feb 12 3:29 AM

I tried it again yesterday, but did not encounter with Torture Amps while playing against sissies. I'll let you know if I find the same error again.

**jONES1979** · 8th Mar 12 6:53 PM

The beta-4 patch-03 is uploaded and will be available after Moddb moderator's authorisation.

Here is a link http://www.moddb.com/mods/black-temp...eta-4-patch-03

Spoiler

**Gambit** · 8th Mar 12 7:01 PM

Thanks Jones man!

... but the links says that the file is deleted....

**Darknite** · 9th Mar 12 5:34 AM

many thanks

**UlrikX** · 9th Mar 12 11:15 AM

Am I missing something, i've downloaded the latest patch, but I can't see a link to the mod itself?

**jONES1979** · 9th Mar 12 5:04 PM

Originally Posted by UlrikX

Am I missing something, i've downloaded the latest patch, but I can't see a link to the mod itself?

Link in the first post as usual. But, of course, I duplicate it for you here http://www.moddb.com/mods/black-temp...ade-mod-beta-4
Have fun!

**UlrikX** · 10th Mar 12 6:00 AM

Aha my bad, thanks Jones.

I saw the link in the first post but presumed it was just the link to the same patch as found on post #308

I'll get cracking

**jONES1979** · 19th Mar 12 7:55 PM

The beta-4 patch-04 is uploaded and authorised.

Here is a link http://www.moddb.com/mods/black-temp...eta-4-patch-04

Whats new:

- BT-themed sounds (vocals) for Castellan and Emperor Champion. WHE (OE-code) and RGD (AE-code) updated aswell
- Added "lost" sounds for some abilities
- Updated misc icons

Balance:
- Chaplain's special attack "demoralizing" effect reduced.
- Crusader's Power Sword weapon upgrades limited to 2 per squad

- Max weapon's upgrades for Sword Brethen Squad 7 -> 8 (after all appropriate researches complete)
- Sword Brethen's Power Fist weapon upgrades limited to 4 per squad
- L2 Targeters now have requirement L1 Bionics (previous Level) instead of L2 Bionics (same Level).

All previous patches included.

patches 01,02,03 content

**RMX** · 28th Mar 12 11:08 AM

I tried applying patch04 but mod won't load because it can't find an ability

MOD -- Fatal Data Error for entity 'data:attrib\ebps\races\black_templars\troops\templar_emperor_champion.rgd' ability_ext - ability 'abilities\ability_attach_disable_teleport.lua' is not a valid ability!

**jONES1979** · 28th Mar 12 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by RMX

I tried applying patch04 but mod won't load because it can't find an ability

MOD -- Fatal Data Error for entity 'data:attrib\ebps\races\black_templars\troops\templar_emperor_champion.rgd' ability_ext - ability 'abilities\ability_attach_disable_teleport.lua' is not a valid ability!

This file "abilities\ability_attach_disable_teleport.lua" exists in the main Beta-04 mod installation build .

Reinstall the Beta-04, and next apply the patch-04

**RMX** · 28th Mar 12 1:54 PM

Thank you. I was playing with old preview files. (my SS folder is a mess)

Out of curiosity. How difficult is it to make unit say a line everytime you select them in the army painter?

**jONES1979** · 28th Mar 12 8:11 PM

Originally Posted by RMX

Out of curiosity. How difficult is it to make unit say a line everytime you select them in the army painter?

Need to edit model's WHE file in OE. (Sometime, it is difficult even to put the model in "OE-editable" state)

**death_incarnet** · 4th Apr 12 7:48 PM

i am sooo excited yeeeep!!!
so wen i can i play them in campaign?????

**jONES1979** · 4th Apr 12 8:01 PM

Originally Posted by death_incarnet

i am sooo excited yeeeep!!!
so wen i can i play them in campaign?????

Thank you for intererst, death_incarnet!
Unfortunately, campaign conversion is delayed due to my high stress in RL work currently

**RMX** · 8th Apr 12 8:22 AM

After installing BT fresh and updating to the latest version, the Exorcist missile and Torture Amp thing is back. I'm pretty sure there are no .rgds to be found in the abilities folder. In fact I think I deleted everything named sisters_ in the art and attrib folders. Any suggestions?

**jONES1979** · 8th Apr 12 8:48 AM

Originally Posted by RMX

After installing BT fresh and updating to the latest version, the Exorcist missile and Torture Amp thing is back. I'm pretty sure there are no .rgds to be found in the abilities folder. In fact I think I deleted everything named sisters_ in the art and attrib folders. Any suggestions?

install BT fresh, next apply patch 04

**death_incarnet** · 21st Apr 12 3:02 AM

oh i c srry to hear tht well hope evything works out man......

**masterslay** · 26th Apr 12 9:23 AM

I have gotten the BT mod working with all of these mods combined since patch 04, which might be of the fact i always toogle quick ressource rule ingame which made it crash: Inquistion daemonhunt, tyranids, steel legion, bothy_p chaos daemons and renegades mod, but I cannot seem to get It working with the enhanced mod by morat, no matter what I do, as the entire game crash just the second the BT race is about to build the second SM barrack. I have found the Warning.log file created in the soulstorm folder, and uploaded it, so maybe you can find the cause to it:

http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...2/warnings.log

Thanks in advance

By the way, your mod is really good, how did you learn to mod :P?

**jONES1979** · 26th Apr 12 9:35 AM

Link is broken, sorry

UPD. After some thinking, I sure now, that the warnings.log file didn't help to solve the problem. CTD at certain point of game, mean usually the AI inconsistence

UPD2.

fact i always toogle quick ressource rule ingame which made it crash:

I recall this problem , it was fixied in the beta_4_patch_01, and the last beta_4_patch_04 is also contain the updated AI files. So I think that You just need to re-apply beta_4_patch_04

**masterslay** · 26th Apr 12 4:41 PM

Well, sry i posted the wrong link, try if it works now: http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...2/warnings.log

Well I was thinking that it could be, there are also other things, like the sm using grey knights instead of deathwatch veterans, which has caused some trouble before.
And some wincondition overlapping each other, which probably can cause something too. But well, it crash nearly at the beginning of the game, when the bt is about to build second sm barrack, so it could be that some ai is still loading, and thus cause the crash? I dont really know what i am talking about, just guessing

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**masterslay** · 27th Apr 12 3:02 AM

Because i wanted to see if it would crash even when disabling the ai, and it did crash still :S. It appeared that the ai would build some few buildings and then attack with some troops, and then they dont build anymore or do anything after that.

**jONES1979** · 27th Apr 12 3:35 AM

I suspect that "disable_AI.scar" contain the additional code, which I used for testing purpose. So, it can be the new reason of your crashes.

**masterslay** · 27th Apr 12 12:41 PM

Yeah, I know it is a bit stupid I try it without really knowing what it does, but reading the description "disable ai"

. I thought maybe it would help disabling ai to see if that was the cause of the crash.

Maybe it would be better for you to try install enhanced mod and combine with bt mod to see for yourself what happens

. I really hope for it to work with the enhanced mod.

**SandroniusPrime** · 28th Apr 12 11:09 AM

Hi there ! Love your mod !

Specially the great feature of the tanderhawk deep strike !!!

Do you think you will implement for it some new weapon ? Maybe lascannon or an opening shoot with the main weapon (turbolaser i think...)

**jONES1979** · 28th Apr 12 2:10 PM

Originally Posted by SandroniusPrime

Hi there ! Love your mod !
Specially the great feature of the tanderhawk deep strike !!!

Do you think you will implement for it some new weapon ? Maybe lascannon or an opening shoot with the main weapon (turbolaser i think...)

Hi! Thanks for reply!

I don't sure about future TH updates, but just for you to know, the Dark Angels mod have a flying TH unit (the same model, updated and re-animated by me) with working/firing battlecannon.

**SandroniusPrime** · 28th Apr 12 3:05 PM

Working/Firing Battlecannon

Aggressive !!!!

You will continue to support your mod isn't it ? That would mean that work on TH is difficult but if have done that work for DA mod maybe they could share their stuff with you.

It would be great have more strategy choices with TH.

But why there isn't the marshall ?

**masterslay** · 29th Apr 12 2:59 AM

Heres the dl link for the latest soulstorm enhanced beta 4:

http://www.mediafire.com/?i2p1c4vkkcdan2d

**jONES1979** · 30th Apr 12 7:23 AM

Originally Posted by masterslay

Maybe it would be better for you to try install enhanced mod and combine with bt mod to see for yourself what happens

. I really hope for it to work with the enhanced mod.

Ok, I took a look and that is what I found

The Morat's "enhanced" mod have incorporated the Adv.AI ver3.0 files, but BT mod use the Adv.AI ver3.2 as a reference mod. So your resulted mod should contain the direct reference to the latest Adv.AI ver3.2 mod.

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There is another approach, just use the BT mod as your main(aka top) mod. Just add reference to the "enhanced" mod into the BTmod.module file.

So your BTmod.module file will contain:

Code:

RequiredMod.1 = dowai
RequiredMod.2 = objective_points_SS

RequiredMod.3 = Enhanced

RequiredMod.4 = DXP2
RequiredMod.5 = W40k

**masterslay** · 3rd May 12 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by jONES1979

Ok, I took a look and that is what I found

The Morat's "enhanced" mod have incorporated the Adv.AI ver3.0 files, but BT mod use the Adv.AI ver3.2 as a reference mod. So your resulted mod should contain the direct reference to the latest Adv.AI ver3.2 mod.

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There is another approach, just use the BT mod as your main(aka top) mod. Just add reference to the "enhanced" mod into the BTmod.module file.

So your BTmod.module file will contain:

Code:

RequiredMod.1 = dowai
RequiredMod.2 = objective_points_SS

RequiredMod.3 = Enhanced

RequiredMod.4 = DXP2
RequiredMod.5 = W40k

OK I will try and see if this helps

**masterslay** · 4th May 12 4:44 AM

Nice it did made it work like, but now i have another problem which is that when combined with the daemonhunters mod too, it will crash

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Same with steel legion and tyranids.

I usually play with several mods combined, like the tyranids, steellegion, renegades, warp daemons and IDH_beta2_SS with DH_ID_for_SS_Beta2_Advanced_Skirmish_AI-Dec22.2008, which has ai v3.1, but i thought it would be easier to figure out which mod cause crash by trying them one at a time with the enhanced and bt mod combined, and testing it in an all ai battle mode. It seems that

This is warning log when playing with enhance, bt and tyranids.
http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...8/warnings.log

Warning log, when playing with renegades mod and etc.
http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...9/warnings.log

Warning log, when playing with Warp_daemons, etc.
http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...5/warnings.log

**jONES1979** · 4th May 12 4:55 AM

Originally Posted by masterslay

Nice it did made it work like, but now i have another problem which is that when combined with the daemonhunters mod too, it will crash

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Same with steel legion.

So, post your resulted .module file.
Probably, I can help you with SL mod too.

What about IDH - You [You and community] should terrorize Thudmeiser and demand the IDH for SS [conversion] public release. The last IDH build (the private one) have a full support of Adv.AI 3.2 features.

**masterslay** · 4th May 12 7:39 AM

Ahh ok, here is the one you told me to make as the mothermod, because thats the one using the 3.2 ai you said. I tested the mods on that one and it resulted in crash with any mod together with enhanced mod, so i also used this as the resulted module file for all the warning logs i posted:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...2/BTmod.module

I use this module file sometimes to toogle dowai on an off to test, cause i dont know if dowai makes any difference in the enhanced mods ai behavior, sometimes it feels like the ai act differerent according to the respective dowai version used. playing as BT works fine, but when cpu controls them, it crash:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...nhanced.module
Also in this folder i edited a frontend models file to show up one represantive each for the respective races, and i usually use the BT swordbretheren who has the helmet with the cross painted on, it looks so epic :P, but I like the castellan too. The emperors champion would also be epic to use, if he had his shield (please make one with shield) :P.

Also it would be very nice if you could figure out why the spacemarines isnt using deathwatch veterans instead of grey knights

And it seems they do so, only when combining together with your mod, but not together with the others.
I know the enhanced mod has designed the mod around the idh mod, so when combining idh with enhanced, it makes the sm use deathwatch veterans insted of grey knights.

I use this .module when i dont wanna play with enhanced mod, everything works perfectly, so probably only the enhanced mod which makes trouble:
http://www.filehosting.org/file/deta...hunt_SS.module

Oh yeah, waited so long for the IDH mod, but we the community usually get the same response that it will be released tommorow or something, and then it gets delayed again, so people get used to it

.

**jONES1979** · 4th May 12 11:53 AM

Also it would be very nice if you could figure out why the spacemarines isnt using deathwatch veterans instead of grey knights

And it seems they do so, only when combining together with your mod, but not together with the others.

IDH mod overrides the default \Data\attrib\ebps\races\space_marines\structures\space_marine_barracks.rgd with own settings: It replace grey_knights by deathwatch veterans there
Enchnced mod also overrides the default \Data\attrib\ebps\races\space_marines\structures\space_marine_barracks.rgd with own settings: It add devastators, etc

So now it is depends from you/your skills. Which mod will have the max priority in .module file - that's settings will be applied in game. Or you can use Corsix's Mod Studio to open your top-level mod and add this minor modification by yourself: Add both devastators and deathwatch squads into you_top_mod_folder\Data\attrib\ebps\races\space_marines\structures\space_marine_barracks.rgd

**masterslay** · 4th May 12 1:20 PM

Ok, thanks for the tip. I will try do that, though my skills isnt great.

So i guess the top-priority mod is the one mentioned in the line where it says "modfolder" in the .module file. But is the next prioritised in numerical order like: Requiredmod.1 = modfoldername1, etc.?

Any idea how I can implement a Emperors Champion wielding a shield, like the poster in the installer? I think I have seen one the apocalypse mod, but then again, I am not sure if it will conflict with the animation in the BT mod? Well I really think the shield would suit the EC

Also i have linked to the renegades and warp_daemons mods here in the post 439:
http://forums.relicnews.com/showthre...-It-Orky/page9

So you can try them out too

By the way, some other thing nagging me, is the witch hunters mod is quite incompatible with any mods :/

Edit: Ok done it, but there was some problem with it using the models of the gk, instead of the deathwatch ones, so i just deleted the gk models in the art folder, and then it used deathwatch files.

Also i notice the ai in enhanced feels slightly messed up, when using dowai, they dont build the new units and keep using the old ones all the time.

**jONES1979** · 4th May 12 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by masterslay

Any idea how I can implement a Emperors Champion wielding a shield, like the poster in the installer? I think I have seen one the apocalypse mod, but then again, I am not sure if it will conflict with the animation in the BT mod? Well I really think the shield would suit the EC

Bolt pistol and Black Sword - is the BT codex only weapon for Emperor Champion. But yes, there is another model made by Melooo for the BT Company Champion, it wield a shield, and sword or hammer.

You can try to use it, by substituting path to model in the ebps\races\black_templars\troops\emperor_chamion.rdg. But, there is a functional differences between models, so probably this replacement will cause some animation errors in the game

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So i guess the top-priority mod is the one mentioned in the line where it says "modfolder" in the .module file. But is the next prioritised in numerical order like: Requiredmod.1 = modfoldername1, etc.?

Definitely, the top-priority folder is the one mentioned in the "modfolder" line.

Next, I guess that Requiredmod.1 - is next priority, then .2 , .3 , but I don't sure in it on 100%. It is also possible, that game engine is really compare RGD's file last update date-time, and use most recent edited one.

If you look inside DXP2.module file, you will see that Requiredmod.1 is the WXP, and lowlevel ENGINE is in the Requiredmod.2. But both WXP and ENGINE contain files packed in archives and this is a huge difference against user made mods

**masterslay** · 7th May 12 1:09 PM

OK thanks, I will think about i should change the ec to one with shield, if the animation mess up, I will try the different mods a bit more, to see what works better, i am still not satisfied with the way the enhanced mods ai behave differently when combinede with a 3.2 ai.

**jONES1979** · 17th Jul 12 8:05 PM

Few sound examples of of upcoming Beta-5 build

http://www.moddb.com/mods/black-temp...-is-our-galaxy

http://www.moddb.com/mods/black-temp...black-templars

http://www.moddb.com/mods/black-temp...-is-displeased

**bigwall11** · 18th Jul 12 11:18 AM

I just installed this using the .exe and nothing else. When I try to run it, the game says that it failed to initialize or somehting.

**Gambit** · 18th Jul 12 11:30 AM

Man, to me it work like a charm, you must be doing something wrong. Could you be more specific?

Anyways, here are some things worth considering:
1] Re-download and re-install. A possibly corrupted download may be the case (unlikely, but still possible).
2] Is your SS updated to latest version?
3] Did you have any previous versions of the mod (or the Objective_Points mod) installed?
4] What is the exact message you get? Is it on MOD's initialisation? (I.e. fails to initialise the mod?)

Last Tip: Have a look at the warnings file (located in the SS folder). It would be more enlightening...

EDIT:
Oopppsss!!! I forgot to mention that Advanced Skirmish AI 3.2 is needed.... I guess I took it for granted and missed the obvious!!!

**SHD87** · 18th Jul 12 11:41 AM

Install Advanced Skirmish AI 3.2 mod and next time please read first post (or install guide) than it should work np.

**jONES1979** · 18th Jul 12 11:41 AM

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UPD:
Thread is locked.
Mod development is abandoned due to threat and arbitrariness of the moderators

**jONES1979** · 6th Aug 12 10:34 PM

I'm thinking about adding a new race of PDF allies to Black Templars

As always recently, out best community modeler and texture artist are involved

**boothy_p** · 7th Aug 12 4:55 AM

Excellent idea mate! New allies are a great idea

**RMX** · 7th Aug 12 5:50 AM

An entire new, separate race?

I would welcome that. Do you have an unit list sketched?

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