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    MorrisB, I'd be in if you started it now(ish)
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    I may or may not. Perhaps it would be better to wait until the end of Spacefarers.
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    @Killer_Zero: I kinda' hope to get it moving either this week (towards the weekend) or the next. Judging by your avatar, I can roughly imagine what you would play as

    @Oh,John,no!: I don't intend to wait with this project like this, for reasons I've stated in my previous post. I repeat: people may join almost ANY time, and there's a limit of 4-5 players (Game Master included).

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    Thing is, though people may join at any time, if it doesn't get started due to Spacefarers they will all forget it exists and not join.

    A limit of 4-5 players sounds rather restrictive, but then there aren't that many 40k players here. It does sound interesting, it's just that it's not likely to do well at this time.

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    If you give me more info, I very well might join. As what though..... I might refer to Black Cat for this
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    sumtimz, yus nedz moar dakka...

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    I wish to limit the number of players at a time because I had pretty bad experiences in the past on other roleplay forums. For a Game Master, managing the story with over 7-9 or even more participants of entirely different nature (both in real life and roleplay style) is pure torment, especially when some people go on hiatus for unexplained reasons and so the adventure can't advance. For this reason, I'd rather stick to a few determined roleplayers.

    You know what guys ? I'll post the Rules today or tomorrow and then I'll let everyone decide it for him/herself.

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    Funnly enough I have both Inquisitor, Inquisitor's Handbook and Rogue Trader RP guides
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    Wow, REALLY ?! That's quite a treasure ! In my country, they have never been published. I wish someone would make them downloadable in some format.

    Anyway: I HAVE POSTED THE TOPIC. Please read it and judge it. I'd like to see who would be interested in joining

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    Damn.....Sorry....Just looked over them again.....I have Dark Heresy and the Inquisitors Handbook and Rogue Trader.
    However If This IS What your looking for I am more then willing to provide any material you may need

    A suggestion would be to check the Dark Reign Forums It's all 40k roleplay

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    Thanks for the suggestion good sir, I'll look into it. Could prove highly useful

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    I would like to reiterate there is no assasine rule where there can only be 'n' active threads in this subforum. If users cannot gauge their commitment, or determine how active they might be, they shouldent be joining works in the first place.

    If users feel strongly contrary to this, they should keep their comments to themselves, or contact the forum moderator.
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    Agreed. It's mostly why I'm not joining the latest batch of boardwars.

    'Course, it helps that I'm in a lingering mood to play a fairy or a mad scientist, and none of the curret ones suit that.
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    Weavern, it's "asinine" and there used to be a rule in one of the stickied threads prior to the subforum being wiped
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    In my opinion, any discussion of how many boardwars should be on this forum at once or what GMs should or shouldn't be able to demand of the character sheets of their players belong in this thread, not the Inquisitor one. I do wish regulars who aren't even playing in that game would stop posting their unsolicited opinions there.
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    It defeats the purpose of this thread if folks keep going to the OOC posts. OOCs are for maintaining a character sheet and information directly partaining to the related IC thread IMHO

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    I'm sorry gorb, but that wasnt a 'rule' there was no rule whereby a moderator would come by and delete any thread over 'n' in value. If you only want a maximum of 6+1 threads going at any point in time for some reason which has no basis in fact, or relevence then perhaps you can put forth an arguement for why that should be a rule.

    I have no idea what sword added to the guidelines in the peroid of time that he updated them. However this was not a criteria for the subforum at it's inception and unless and sword can speak to this as he is the current moderator for this section, it was not an etched in stone rule. This isnt some 'only people I like can post' forum. This is a forum open to people, if this assasine and spelled that way for added emphasis, then it just acts to enforce a clique where only people in the know can have their threads made, and only people who join at the start or wish to join something half, two thirds, or three quarters in.

    Users should be able to gauge their commitments to what works they want to join. If people find that quality drops, then that isnt the problem of multiple works. It's a problem with people not taking their posting serious enough or joining multiple things half assed. Have the GMs enforce rules for how many users can join something. Do not punish everyone else for some reason which has not ever been explained in good measure.

    In the times before this purge, and the purge before it. There was a limit of 3 threads, because the threads were found in the studio and with high signal to noise volume, drowned out other fiction and art works. With a subforum, which will eventually have the recent post update removed again. There is no reason to enforce this draconian rule for anything other then to ensure that the same 8 players can have their little party and pretend that quality goes up when choice goes down.

    Furthermore, it is unbecomming of members of this community to attack new users who make an effort to post something, and to attack their effort and undermine the actions.

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    I feel bad now.

    My apologies if I inspired any of the above.


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    I see my comments were evidently out of line, my apologies. I shouldn't have raised the issue in the OOC thread, and perhaps instead of cluttering up this thread with something that has fast turned into some form of e-drama I should have created a new thread to discuss potential rules in this subforum. Again, sorry

    EDIT: Weavern, taken things to PM.

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    praps this was a bad time to stage a comeback.......
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    Hey Warmaster, just missed an opportune time I'm afraid.

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    Ah, that sucks.

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    Part of a Fantasy BW concept I'm building up in preparation for May, when I'll have enough free time on my hands to maybe start a BW of my own. Details are rough at the moment, but probably along the lines of a hybrid Story/Character driven, Multiple Party based (two at most) differing yet parallel quest lines on the world of Illuminen. Think present day technology mish-mashed with magic, but technology has rapidly taken a backseat to magic for reasons stated below.

    Any critique is definitely welcome.

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    I only have two questions. Can I be a fairy, and can I be a mad scientist? Either will make me very happy.

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    Or possibly even a Mad Fairy Scientist?

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    Well, in Orb II you could possibly be a fairy character, since the character criteria are so loose. A mad scientist is possible, but it'd be more difficult and more based on magitech due to the setting.

    Another boardwar I've been working on, just called A2 for now, you could be either. It's so far a cross-genre fantasy/sci-fi/modern character BW; I'll talk more about it later here once Orb is finished and I have some more time to work on it.
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    Going away to Swanage for a week in maybe an hour. *hopes Spacefarers III doesn't revive until he gets back*

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    To be clear, when I say "fairy" I mean less tinkerbell, more Fair Folk. Which will be fun, in a dickish kind of way.

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    A fairy would be better suited for the very free-form Orb II, but a Mad Scientist would be within the boundaries of, let me name that idea "Beyond" for now. It may probably limit you to one of the Origins I'm planning on (the Civilian Origin) but would otherwise be permissible along the lines of "crazed magitech/machina guy working with Illium/non-Illium machinery."

    I am also looking forward to Orb II.

    Also, here are some more developments on the "Beyond" BW idea of mine.

    Further background, plus the Three Nations and Origins


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    So atma, for this "Beyond" is one required to play only as one of the preset charecters. (AKA the soldier, the patriot, etc) Or are they allowed to generate their own charecter?
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    Players generate their own characters using the "Origin" as a basic template (Your character's affiliated faction, and to an extent his/her personality depending on how he/she is looked upon in the world). Some variation is still possible, as I will outline below. The Origins are necessary to focus the flow of the boardwar and force a party-based direction so to speak. (Note that The Soldier and The Patriot converge to become one party, and The Mercenary and The Civilian converge to become another party)

    For example, if you chose The Soldier, your character could be an Adept specialising purely in magic, making you very powerful yet helpless in the Void, or an Adept who chose to hone magic and combat/tech, making you weaker in magic and combat/tech but not helpless in the Void. Your Adept nature means that you would be a person of renown in the Mysteria context, which is where The Soldier starts from, and you begin as one of the officers leading the assault.

    Using the same Soldier origin, another player could possibly choose the Unfused route and go with a combat orientation (Illium-based magic rifles, cannons, martial arts etc) or the magitech/support orientation (piloting Etheric Airships, vehicles, barrier devices, medical expertise etc) as part of the Mysterian army. However, the Unfused nature means that the player is essentially looked down upon and nothing but a lowly grunt to them.

    Variations don't necessarily have to end there. You can have complex character histories and "troubled pasts" as long as it fits within the general context of the Origin, which I've left open-ended where possible (It essentially tells you where you start, and where you'll end up by default as a result of your nature as Adept/Unfused/Illuddite).

    With these two possible "rolls" off the same Origin, you can see how two players might start off the BW together but not on the same level. Here you have an officer Adept versus a grunt Unfused. Will you as an officer treat your subordinate fairly and kindly? Or treat him/her as trash like the rest of your aristocratic brethren? As a grunt will you respectfully obey your magical superior no matter what? Or are there pent-up frustrations that reveal as defiance, even outright insubordination?

    Perhaps a key idea behind the concept of Beyond is having to work together with other players. The Origins are intended to throw together characters from differing backgrounds and obvious historical conflicts. And you would all be expected to somehow work as a seamless team despite these differences to save the world. To emphasise this I'll move the story along with plot points that bring these differences and conflicts into play.

    Of course, all this still probably warrants tweaking and further thought. So any critique is definitely welcome.

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    Ah, well that's definitely an interesting, and not necessarily unwelcome, way to handle the board war. While I do of course enjoy having a great deal of free range in generating characters, stricter guidelines would definitely give it a different feel to what I would be used to.

    I guess my main question would be, what of abilites that have not been mentioned in the starting roles? For instance, would the civilian and the mercenary of the Lumos origin have an adept option?


    All I can say is I sorely hope that "Beyond" and Orb II come out with plenty of time between the two. Otherwise I fear I would be placed in a "Buridan's ass" situation, which would be most unfortunate.

    Also, atma, were the ME2 references placed in here on purpose? LOL

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    The only Origin-Class restriction is probably Soldier + Illuddite, for storyline reasons. Other than that there are no limitations to combinations, meaning yes you could combine Civilian/Mercenary Origins with Adept options.

    "Beyond" will probably start mid-May pending, so hopefully there won't be such a situation with Orb II (Which I am personally also interested in :X)

    And yeah, there are probably references not just from ME2 but everywhere. Because I am just so wonderful with names

    EDIT:

    The world of Illuminen. The dark circle is the reason for the Mysterian Invasion of Fujiyama at the start: a suddenly expanded Void. Due to the sudden emergence and expansion of Voids across Illuminen (not shown on map yet), Mysteria is sent into a state of paranoia and tries to conquer Everest due to Everest being the least affected by the phenomenon, termed the "Tide of Darkness." The daring attack was catalysed particularly by city of Ignis being swallowed up by one of these Voids, sending the magic-dependent metropolis into an anarchic state of chaos.
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    So, I'm back. What did I miss?

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    I'm approximately done with the plot and quest directions for Act 1 of Beyond. Judging from how short BW lifespans could be I thought it'd be best to split the story into a trilogy, and see if interest is sufficient to warrant the rest of the story. Nevertheless, Act 1 is still self-contained and provides a sufficient conclusion to its arc.

    That aside, Beyond is pretty much ready for posting now, following a few minor tweaks here and there. But with exam season in full swing the OOC thread won't appear until at least the coming Thursday.

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    As I said in the Beyond OOC, I've been having a lot of computer issues and just now started resolving them. Sorry for my absence and any troubles that may have been caused by it, especially with Orb.

    Unfortunately, I couldn't help to finish Orb, so what I'll most likely due at some later point is work with a few others involved with the story, write up an ending, and use that as a prologue for Orb II if there's enough interest later on, though that'll be when I have a more reliable computer. I've also been working on other boardwars as I've said before, but I want to wait until I'm sure I can post reliably until I commit to anything. Again, sorry I took so long.

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    I'm going to be semi-absent for the next two weeks. Going to see the girlfriend in Germany and then moving house to another university student placey thing.

    Just a heads up. Should have Internet in Germany, will continue to post.

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    So who feels like not letting Boardwars die again?

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    I do have lots of ideas but i don't think anybody likes them

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    Im not talking about posting new boardwars. Revive the ones which are currently on their deathbeds.

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    I think a lot of it is simply the summer effect. A lot of forums simply get quieter from May-Aug.

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    Well what do you know. I suddenly dropped out of the mood to BW a while ago, and now I come back with the urge to play a guy with a BFS. I don't see any fantasy BWs, however... Eh, it looks like the whole subforum is entering one of its periodic comatose stages.

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    Greetings all,

    Now that I have superfast internet(tm) and not a crappy connection that doesn't work half the time I'm very much interested in getting back into boardwars.

    I'm aware that my past two or three posts in boardwars were the posting of characters who never materialised in the fiction and I regret making characters only to not join. It was a combination of increased work and crappy internet that stopped my participation.

    However I'd really like to get stuck in again and have been working on a couple of ideas myself though it seems things are pretty slow at the minute what with people having exams and it being Summer.

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    Just something that came to me now, but what do you all think of a BW to the flavor of the Demigods game.

    I think It has the right make up and fights could be done well on either 1v1 or more

    Anyway what do you all think?

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    I think it'd be yet another powergaming fest of "WAT YOU CANT KILL MY GAI HE IZ 2 AWESUM".

    An interesting idea, but how about we stick with the ones we have going, eh?

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    ...what is Demigods?

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    Demigods was a video game that came out a little while ago.

    To sum it up simply

    A Fantasy

    A God is dead and Eight Demi-Gods (In this case simply larger then life character, Though they are anything if un-killable) have to fight each othe in an alternate realm with several unique battlegrounds To decide who would win (One interesting point is that no one can permanently die in that realm although they can be temporarily beaten)

    An example of my three favourite Chars for instance would be

    The Rook: Everyone loves him, He's a walking castle, Literally, He's possessed with the spirit of the warrior-mason who built it

    Torchbearer: Angry looking Viking guy with severe burn wounds and a really big stick who Masters both Fire AND Ice magic, He was the son of a king, Showed great skill in Ice magic and fell in love, His father was told his soon was a threat to him, His father because of this threw a party for his soon, Bolted the Doors, and burned everyone (Including this guy's love) Alive, He survived wreathed in Flames and Immolated everyone in the castle before going out with his heart as emotionless as Ice for the rest of his existence

    Oak: Ancient Knight who had lived for Hundred of Generations, His king once ordered him to use the destruction of a town and the killing of it's inhabitants as a distraction, He said "No" the king banished him to the Ghost lands with his family and he Guarded the Gate in full Armour for a thousand years without moving, His Armour when he was wounded turned out to be empty, As well as being a melee terror he can also summon the spirits of the dead to fight with him.

    Sorry if the description is a touch lacking, Their actual Bio's are a lot more detailed.
    I chose this Idea because of how open ended it could be

    One Idea would be to let the other players judge who fought the best based on things other then how over the top his finisher is, Like a point system.

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    OK, OK.

    Could I use a BFS in it?

    If so, I'd be OK with joining .

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    What's a BFS?

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