[TOOL] Santos Tools 2 - UPDATED 14-10 - Sound Editor 0.3.0 released!

[Santos]

Santos Tools 2 v0.42 released!

This release contains a number of fixes and improvements to Material Editor. As requested it is now possible to open a texture for editing from within the program. Textures will be opened in the default editor set for DDS files in the operating system. Modified textures will now be automatically reloaded when program window is activated (this can be turned off in the settings if needed). Rendering of models has been improved again, all shader techniques now work. Camera can now be zoomed by using mouse wheel and it can be rotated around the model automatically.

On a side note:

While playing around with material parameters I discovered how to make a texture transparent. All you need to do is to create a proper alpha channel in diffuse texture and (this is important) turn on 'alphaTest' flag for the material that is using this texture, like this:

[horusheretic]

my day just got better

[AceAngel]

Just wanted to say once again, thank you!

[Eihger]

WOOTS and Santos That was a big DERP on my end. thanks for catching it. going to install the new thing and see how well that fares.

Edit: You wana look at rapidshare again? its 3.5

And Hotfile is not working.

EDIT: Well at least there some good news. finally got that damn armor to show up in the game. Just not the other one. Which is still under the ghost mesh. Other than a few skinning irregularities it works fine.


EDIT: Maybe I did get the new version because all of a sudden Nothing is working YET A FUCKING GAIN!

Listener

-- Error occurred in exportModelButton.pressed(); filename: C:\Program Files\Autodesk\3dsMax8\scripts\startup\SantosTools2\RelicModelExport.ms; position: 37744
--  Frame:
--   rootChunkDataPos: undefined
--   modelName: undefined
--   file: undefined
--   rootChunkHeaderPos: undefined
--   filename: undefined
--   simbox: undefined
--   coverbox: undefined
>> MAXScript Rollout Handler Exception: -- Unknown property: "customModelData" in $<root> <<

???

on exportModelButton pressed do
	(
		-- Get output filename (show save file dialog if needed)
		local filename = undefined
		if rootNode.customModelData.outputFile != undefined and rootNode.customModelData.outputFile != "" then
			filename = rootNode.customModelData.outputFile
		else filename = getSaveFileName caption:"Select a MODEL file to export..." types:"Model (*.model)|*.model"
		
		if filename != undefined then

[Santos]

Both links are working and both are pointing to the right file Eihger. As for this error of yours...uh I don't know, try exporting empty scene and see if it works without errors.

EDIT: Also try opening 'Export Options' dialog before exporting. This should create 'customModelData' property you're missing.

[Eihger]

well the rar said 3.5 and theres no Texture editor or anything.

but there definatly a change in options, and I'm not too terribly fond of the shader. I quick comparison the older model file is much darker, even though its still pink

So what does pink mean? Its referencing the right textures so I don't get it.

[Santos]

3.5? What the hell is 3.5? Current version is 0.42. And no material editor? WTF

The new file is called: 'SantosTools2_v0.42.rar'. Double check if you have the right one.

Pink? What exactly is pink?!

[Eihger]

eer .35 I mean sorry and yes No material exporter, I downloaded from Rapishare I tried Hotfile but it kept saying wrong code....

So basically I have more god FUCK YOU going on.
I just want it to work.... thats all.

Do you have to set options EVERY time? because thats a bit of a step back don't you think?

Edit: Pink texures, see the picture in a few of my postss back.

while we are at it heres the log for the model viewer every time I try to load the dead model.

Log

15:16:05: Creating resource group General
15:16:05: Creating resource group Internal
15:16:05: Creating resource group Autodetect
15:16:05: SceneManagerFactory for type 'DefaultSceneManager' registered.
15:16:05: Registering ResourceManager for type Material
15:16:05: Registering ResourceManager for type Mesh
15:16:05: Registering ResourceManager for type Skeleton
15:16:05: MovableObjectFactory for type 'ParticleSystem' registered.
15:16:05: OverlayElementFactory for type Panel registered.
15:16:05: OverlayElementFactory for type BorderPanel registered.
15:16:05: OverlayElementFactory for type TextArea registered.
15:16:05: Registering ResourceManager for type Font
15:16:05: ArchiveFactory for archive type FileSystem registered.
15:16:05: ArchiveFactory for archive type Zip registered.
15:16:05: FreeImage version: 3.10.0
15:16:05: This program uses FreeImage, a free, open source image library supporting all common bitmap formats. See http://freeimage.sourceforge.net for details
15:16:05: Supported formats: bmp,ico,jpg,jif,jpeg,jpe,jng,koa,iff,lbm,mng,pbm,pbm,pcd,pcx,pgm,pgm,png,ppm,ppm,ras,tga,targa,tif,tiff,wap,wbmp,wbm,psd,cut,xbm,xpm,gif,hdr,g3,sgi,exr,j2k,j2c,jp2
15:16:05: DDS codec registering
15:16:05: Registering ResourceManager for type HighLevelGpuProgram
15:16:05: Registering ResourceManager for type Compositor
15:16:05: MovableObjectFactory for type 'Entity' registered.
15:16:05: MovableObjectFactory for type 'Light' registered.
15:16:05: MovableObjectFactory for type 'BillboardSet' registered.
15:16:05: MovableObjectFactory for type 'ManualObject' registered.
15:16:05: MovableObjectFactory for type 'BillboardChain' registered.
15:16:05: MovableObjectFactory for type 'RibbonTrail' registered.
15:16:05: *-*-* OGRE Initialising
15:16:05: *-*-* Version 1.6.4 (Shoggoth)
15:16:05: Loading library RenderSystem_Direct3D9
15:16:05: Installing plugin: D3D9 RenderSystem
15:16:05: D3D9 : Direct3D9 Rendering Subsystem created.
15:16:05: D3D9: Driver Detection Starts
15:16:05: D3D9: Driver Detection Ends
15:16:05: Plugin successfully installed
15:16:05: CPU Identifier & Features
15:16:05: -------------------------
15:16:05:  *   CPU ID: AuthenticAMD: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
15:16:05:  *      SSE: yes
15:16:05:  *     SSE2: yes
15:16:05:  *     SSE3: yes
15:16:05:  *      MMX: yes
15:16:05:  *   MMXEXT: yes
15:16:05:  *    3DNOW: yes
15:16:05:  * 3DNOWEXT: yes
15:16:05:  *     CMOV: yes
15:16:05:  *      TSC: yes
15:16:05:  *      FPU: yes
15:16:05:  *      PRO: yes
15:16:05:  *       HT: no
15:16:05: -------------------------
15:16:05: D3D9 : Subsystem Initialising
15:16:05: ***************************************
15:16:05: *** D3D9 : Subsystem Initialised OK ***
15:16:05: ***************************************
15:16:05: D3D9RenderSystem::_createRenderWindow "OgreWidget", 100x30 windowed  miscParams: externalWindowHandle=2427026 
15:16:05: D3D9 : Created D3D9 Rendering Window 'OgreWidget' : 100x30, 32bpp
15:16:05: D3D9 : WARNING - disabling VSync in windowed mode can cause timing issues at lower frame rates, turn VSync on if you observe this problem.
15:16:05: Registering ResourceManager for type Texture
15:16:05: Registering ResourceManager for type GpuProgram
15:16:05: D3D9: Vertex texture format supported - PF_FLOAT16_RGB
15:16:05: D3D9: Vertex texture format supported - PF_FLOAT16_RGBA
15:16:05: D3D9: Vertex texture format supported - PF_FLOAT32_RGB
15:16:05: D3D9: Vertex texture format supported - PF_FLOAT32_RGBA
15:16:05: D3D9: Vertex texture format supported - PF_FLOAT16_R
15:16:05: D3D9: Vertex texture format supported - PF_FLOAT32_R
15:16:05: D3D9: Vertex texture format supported - PF_FLOAT16_GR
15:16:05: D3D9: Vertex texture format supported - PF_FLOAT32_GR
15:16:05: RenderSystem capabilities
15:16:05: -------------------------
15:16:05: RenderSystem Name: Direct3D9 Rendering Subsystem
15:16:05: GPU Vendor: nvidia
15:16:05: Device Name: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO
15:16:05: Driver Version: 6.14.11.8048
15:16:05:  * Fixed function pipeline: yes
15:16:05:  * Hardware generation of mipmaps: yes
15:16:05:  * Texture blending: yes
15:16:05:  * Anisotropic texture filtering: yes
15:16:05:  * Dot product texture operation: yes
15:16:05:  * Cube mapping: yes
15:16:05:  * Hardware stencil buffer: yes
15:16:05:    - Stencil depth: 8
15:16:05:    - Two sided stencil support: yes
15:16:05:    - Wrap stencil values: yes
15:16:05:  * Hardware vertex / index buffers: yes
15:16:05:  * Vertex programs: yes
15:16:05:  * Fragment programs: yes
15:16:05:  * Geometry programs: no
15:16:05:  * Supported Shader Profiles: hlsl ps_1_1 ps_1_2 ps_1_3 ps_1_4 ps_2_0 ps_2_a ps_2_b ps_2_x ps_3_0 vs_1_1 vs_2_0 vs_2_a vs_2_x vs_3_0
15:16:05:  * Texture Compression: yes
15:16:05:    - DXT: yes
15:16:05:    - VTC: no
15:16:05:  * Scissor Rectangle: yes
15:16:05:  * Hardware Occlusion Query: yes
15:16:05:  * User clip planes: yes
15:16:05:  * VET_UBYTE4 vertex element type: yes
15:16:05:  * Infinite far plane projection: yes
15:16:05:  * Hardware render-to-texture: yes
15:16:05:  * Floating point textures: yes
15:16:05:  * Non-power-of-two textures: yes
15:16:05:  * Volume textures: yes
15:16:05:  * Multiple Render Targets: 4
15:16:05:    - With different bit depths: yes
15:16:05:  * Point Sprites: yes
15:16:05:  * Extended point parameters: yes
15:16:05:  * Max Point Size: 8192
15:16:05:  * Vertex texture fetch: yes
15:16:05:    - Max vertex textures: 4
15:16:05:    - Vertex textures shared: no
15:16:05:  * Render to Vertex Buffer : no
15:16:05:  * DirectX per stage constants: yes
15:16:05: ResourceBackgroundQueue - threading disabled
15:16:05: Particle Renderer Type 'billboard' registered
15:16:05: !!! Direct3D Device Lost!
15:16:05: D3D9TextureManager released:
15:16:05: 0 unmanaged textures
15:16:05: D3D9HardwareBufferManager released:
15:16:05: 0 unmanaged vertex buffers
15:16:05: 0 unmanaged index buffers
15:16:05: Reset device ok w:404 h:323
15:16:05: D3D9 : WARNING - disabling VSync in windowed mode can cause timing issues at lower frame rates, turn VSync on if you observe this problem.
15:16:05: D3D9TextureManager recreated:
15:16:05: 0 unmanaged textures
15:16:05: D3D9HardwareBufferManager recreated:
15:16:05: 0 unmanaged vertex buffers
15:16:05: 0 unmanaged index buffers
15:16:05: !!! Direct3D Device successfully restored.
15:16:13: Creating resource group Model1
15:16:13: Added resource location 'C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\dawn of war 2\GameAssets\Archives\DATA' of type 'FileSystem' to resource group 'Model1'
15:16:13: Initialising resource group Model1
15:16:13: Parsing scripts for resource group Model1
15:16:13: Finished parsing scripts for resource group Model1
15:16:13: Can't assign material  to SubEntity of Model1_Skeleton because this Material does not exist. Have you forgotten to define it in a .material script?
15:16:13: D3D9 : Loading 2D Texture, image name : 'art\race_ig\troops_wargear\armour\ig_ar_kaila\ig_ar_kaila_dif.dds' with 2147483647 mip map levels
15:16:13: OGRE EXCEPTION(5:ItemIdentityException): Bone named 'healthy:lod0:merged material-[ig_armour,relic.material.ig_armour]' not found. in Skeleton::getBone at ..\src\OgreSkeleton.cpp (line 517)
15:16:13: Error while loading manual LOD level Model1_healthy:lod2 - this LOD level will not be rendered. You can ignore this error in offline mesh tools.

[Clonesa]

Well seems clear to me you simply downloaded an old version.... click the new link. Yes, you have to set the options every time because it includes a .ini file and its overwriting yours.

[Eihger]

I used the link in his LATEST POST the one with the Chaos Banner

[Santos]

Hmm, try clearing your browser cache.

These are the raw links to the new version:
http://hotfile.com/dl/38069260/7907c...v0.42.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/37622228...ols2_v0.42.rar

You don't have to set the options every time but you should do this at least once per model.

Ah, you mean that helmet. Either your texture paths are wrong or game can't load the textures for some other reason (files are not there, they have wrong format etc.).

[Eihger]

All the files are referenced correctaly... So I have NO clue whats going on. I'm REALLY scared to try exporting the headagain.. like absolutely terrified. I'm fucking ECSTATIC that its even PINK. but the last export I did, it made the shaders go overboard and its was pretty much think black shadow all over the face.

EDIT: well, finnaly as it turns out there was just ONE texture out of place and the whole thing whent pink.

Now its just a matter of fine tuning the textures so she doesn't look like Billy Defou. Aftr that the last two hurdles, getting the death body to work and figuring out the ghost mesh.


yaaaaay progress....

[Shuma]

All the files are referenced correctaly... So I have NO clue whats going on.

They're not. Pink is Relic's color for "can't find texture"

[Eihger]

Well I figured out the ghost mesh, and not one of you would have EVER figured it out... I solved it purely on coincidence.

Now The Karskin Squad in my mod can't have the sergeant first otherwise squad icons go away, but when I moved the sergeant to the top to see my map working in game without launching a mission I noticed that the ghost mesh ENTIRELY disappeared and my old mesh is working perfectly in game aside from being SLEENDERMAAN OH GOD! Which brings me to my next point, All I needed to do to the old mesh was re size it so it fits. Um if anyone has my old model, I'd kinda like that.

But there ya have it. The ghost mesh was entirely relic sided. Now I just need to add squad icons to my sergeants ebps file and resize the mesh and its done...

EDIT: Nope... can't be that simple, every time I resize the skeleton and mesh, the skin kills itself when it reaches the game and it turns into the stretchy good thing. Now I am absolutely bad as skinning so to just be able to get the damn skin into the game would be just dandy... SO I figured my problem is, the mesh is the right size, the bone s are too small. If I removed the skin in ANYWAY the model is compromized. If I cut and paste the mesh changes with the bones...

So as a last ditch effort I imported a new IG body mesh into max, Modeled it to how I wanted it... AND IT STILL SLENDERMANS!

Heres the kicker. She works PERFECTLY in the model viewer now. Until I add animation, then the body FREAKS OUT!

SO I'm but at a more visually appeasing square one again.

[Kartoffel]

These tools rock. I was just wondering, is there any way to convert these to work for blender? I'm too cheap to buy 3ds max.

[Eihger]

try to get an educational version of Max, it should be free, you just can't do any commercial work with it.

[Kartoffel]

try to get an educational version of Max, it should be free, you just can't do any commercial work with it.

I have considered it, but I got the feeling that getting an educational version when I'm not in college was not the right thing to do. I think I will save up for this cheap version of 2010 that I found: http://bestadobe.com/shop/item/334/

[Copernicus]

@Kartoffel:
I would not trust this website. They're offering you software for incredibly cheap prices (how can you save 800$ and still make profit!?) and a quick google-search for their website brought up lots of results telling me they sell pirated stuff. Don't buy there. See here.

[Kartoffel]

wow. thanks. saved me $300 wasted dollars. I didn't think it was selling stuff that was potentially pirated.

Wait, it says that they're an autodesk authorized reseller...

[Corsix]

Wait, it says that they're an autodesk authorized reseller...

Anybody can stick the "Autodesk authorized reseller" logo on their website , but it doesn't make them an Autodesk authorized reseller. For instance, they also have a McAfee logo on their site, yet "McAfee TrustedSource web reputation analysis found potential security risks with this site".

[Kartoffel]

That makes sense. I will not trust that site then.

[Kolaris]

Something that's bugged me:

In the Material Editor, you can't just type in a texture location, you have to either browse to it or paste something.

The only things I have out-of-archive are the projects I'm working on, so I don't have every texture unpacked and ready to point to. I've started keeping a list of default textures to copy and paste, but I thought I'd bring it up for being perhaps a bit counter-intuitive.

I think I'm one version behind so maybe this was changed, apologies if so.

Keep up the amazing work.

[Santos]

@Kartoffel

It is possible to convert the scripts to Blender (or any other 3D software for that matter) but of course it requires some time and effort. I want to do a version for Blender at some point, but I don't have enough time at the moment. If you're familiar with Blender API you could try doing this yourself. Scripts are open sourced and MODEL file format description is also available here (though still incomplete).

@Kolaris

Indeed. It will be fixed in next version.

[Eihger]

The set export path in the export options, Can it be removed?
Every time I export a model the path stays universal, so if I'm working on the body but I had just recently exported the head ina seperate max file, the path stays on the head.

I fail to see how this is different than before where you had to set it each and every time, only now there is a chance you'll overwrite your files.

EDIT: For some reason when I export said body, the skeleton tripples in size so the animations become, well.
it goes from this, working normaly


to this

[horusheretic]

the dow 1 mod type directory system should be used instead.

[Shuma]

Emperor have mercy on you, what's going on with that guardsmen? He appears to be melting.

[Eihger]

each bone grows in size, and I don't know why. The model is the right size, I completely remade the model by importing the Chaos Rising Guard model not the Vanilla model. So the kin itself hasn't changed, neither have any of the bones.. so I just don't know whats going on.

it can never be that simple... ever

[Shuma]

If i may ask, what are you even trying to do with the model?

[Eihger]

Use it like every other Guard model. It's got the game skin, the same rigging the same EVERYTHING. I added NO vertetexes or edges. I modified the model only making it more feminine.

[Shuma]

So you're making a woman Guardsmen? Ok, why don't you tell us step by step what you have done, i mean, i think everyone but me has tried to help you so why not?

[Eihger]

Ok step 1
Import model
Step 2
Change texture
Step 3
Save skin envelopes
Step 3a
Remove skin
Step 4
Rescale body to new shape (no need to change things on a small scale, just use the scale tool on the elements)
Step 5
Move arms closer to body
Step 6
Modify chest
Step 7
Reapply skin
Step 7a
add all bones in scene
Step 7b
Load saved envelope
Step 8
Export model

I do this for each of the lod meshes.

At no point is a vertex added or removed. very minor changes to the mesh actually occur.

[Shuma]

So the model does export? And the texture shows correctly? 'cause then it be a problem with the bones, and i know nothing about bones. Haven't touched a single bone in the small modifications i've done, or the skin modifier for that matter.

[Eihger]

everything else works fne, its just the rigging.

and I have no clue why..

[Santos]

@Eihger

Export path is not universal. You can set a unique path for every model you're working on and save it into max scene file.

Your guardsman looks weird indeed. The model is quite distored so this might be a skinning problem. Can I get a look at your files?

[Shuma]

Should i ask "Why are you even touching the bones"? I mean, i've done some little modifications here and there and i haven't touched a single bone and i've had no problem with anything.

[Eihger]

Let me make this as clear as possible

I DO NOT EDIT THE BONES IN ANY WAY!

[Shuma]

Save skin envelopes
add all bones in scene

As far as i know this 2 things have to do with bones.

[horusheretic]

as in to the skin modifier.

that doesn't change the bones themselves and is needed for most meshes.

although now that i think about it... try it with a new skin modifier. not a saved and loaded one since your essentially copying an old one on meshes that it wasn't originally made for.

this is sometimes one of the small things that make the mesh deform strangely to bones

[AceAngel]

(Sorry if I'm missing something here, got lost among the jibber jabber).

Did you weigh the mesh correctly to the bones or did you simply save and apply them? Sometimes Max screws up the weights, even when saved.

Other then that, what about a different model? Does it gives the same issues?

Since you're not changing the bones placement and sizes, and are applying the same weights back to the mesh, it should work correctly. Strange.

[horusheretic]

yes but its not exactly the same mesh if youve added something to it, making the old wieghts now incorrect.

sometimes they will work out and sometimes they dont.

NTL its better to give them a new skin modifier or go through and correct the old wieghting.

[Santos]

I had a look at Eihger's file and in short: skeleton was messed up. He swears he didn't touch anything of course...

[Eihger]

I haven't TOUCHED the max file since I gave it to you, this is it JUST opened.

DO YOU SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE FUCKING BONES!


I DIDN'T THINK SO!

[Santos]

DO YOU SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE FUCKING BONES!

Yes. It seems to me you just took the old gurdsman skeleton and resized it to fit your model.

[baz443311]

Eihger you want to calm down.

[Eihger]

see this is where things get, weird. I started with a fresh new scene, fresh new import, fresh new mesh... there should be NO WAY that the old skeleton is present.

Sorry for anger. Just random crap is always coming up.

So Tomorrow I'll start on restart number 5 see if anything changes..

[AceAngel]

I thought that in games, the Bone's 'size' is on the same tree with the animation.

This means if you change the size of the bones, the animation won't work, because they're accounted and baked with the default and already created bone base.

So you change that, the animation get screwed. That is 'changing' the bones.

And so far, I don't know of ANY game that doesn't have this issue.

So what Santos posted and said is correct.

[Croaxleigh]

As a moderation note, we'll be keeping an eye on this thread. Any further raging at the tool creator for trying to help with problems OR excessive smart-assery about the problems of others will result in people taking a break from the thread for a while until they can gain some perspective.

[Santos]

Santos Tools 2 v0.45 released!

This release contains an updated version of, what it used to be called, Material Editor. Model Viewer and Material Editor have been merged into one program - Model Editor. Application has pretty much the same functionality as old Model Viewer and of course you can still edit materials with it. Animations are back and so are attachments. Plus there are some new features implemented, you can read about them below.

Model Sets

Attached models can now be saved into file (with 'Save Set' button) and loaded back (with 'Load Set' button). They will be saved into a file with '.modelset' extension. This is just a simple text file that lists model to attach and it looks something like this:

art\race_marine\troops\space_marine\space_marine
art\race_marine\troops_wargear\armour\power_armour_common\power_armour_common
art\race_marine\troops_wargear\heads\space_marine\space_marine_head
art\race_marine\troops_wargear\weapons_ranged\bolter_common\bolter_common

NOTE: As you can see all paths are relative and without '.model' extension. To make this feature work archive path needs to be set correctly!

First line points to the base model and the rest are attachments. Base model will be ignored if you load the set from 'Attachments' panel but this file can also be opened via the Main Menu with File->Open just like the normal '.model' file. In this case program will load the base model first and attach all remaining models to it.



Animations

Animations are now loaded from HKANIM files by default. This is not only faster (loading 100MB in one file is much faster than loading a hundred 1MB files) but this is actually the real source of animations in game. To my understanding game will never load animations from 'animations' folder if this file exists (even if it's empty, broken etc.).

It is still possible to load animations from loose HKX file in the 'animations' folder, if needed. Just switch the right option in the settings.



Markers

Program can now display markers. Every marker has a small arrow pointing in its local Y direction. Attached effects will play in this direction in game, so this feature can be used to verify if marker is pointing the right way.



Command Line Support

Program can now be launched from command line with one option specifying the file to open, for example:

DoW2ModelEditor space_marine.model

will open Space Marine model (if it is in the same directory as the program, else you need to provide the full path). This might not sound terribly usefull but it actually allows to set Model Editor as the default editor for MODEL and MODELSET files in the operating system (right click the file, select 'Open With' and pick DoW2ModelEditor.exe). Opening a model with wargear attached with just one double click, how cool is that?

[Clonesa]

Very cool stuff.

[horusheretic]

are there any plans to ad the materials to the material drop down list when the attachments are loaded?

that way, if you have the basic skeleton for the animations, and then add the attachments, you can still edit the materials on the loaded attachments without having to load them up one by one.