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Looks really nice DMz! A couple of suggestions though: 1. If you're going to use Panzer Lehr's insignia could you make it a bit smaller and move it to the front right corner? 2. Might it be possible to scoot the turret numbers down a bit and get the Balkenkruez above them?
Ok - I'm done nitpicking now
Yeah, if I'm right this (our public) model was made by @TD/@HT. I was thinking that those addons are separately available or part of a new version of this model. But as you said it, I also remember me of the presentation of DMZ's own model a while back.Originally Posted by Celéstial
almost 2 yearsback, and ive decided to finish it, as i found it on an old hard drive, i just spruced it up a bit,made a new barrel added some stowage and then made a new zimmeritt plus new nrm for the texture.
And i always find it rather uncomfortable that everyone always says Halftrack and TDs, no one ever seems to bother to mention Skyward, the who that sloged his ass off modelling the thing and smoothing it plus uvwrapping it.
#3554
Probably because there are no credits list or readme distributed with the file, and he's only mentioned once on the first post regarding it. He'd probably get more credit if there was a credits list or readme packaged in with the release files, but i think the main reason he's forgotten is simply because the thread is called HTs & TDs 3D Factory. Much like most of the new models released here are simply known as the ones Eliw00d has done, with little mention of the modeller, skinner, or anyone else involved.
Of course, we mostly do it just to easilly differentiate one model of a vehicle from anther. If we were to list everyone involved in making a model every time we wanted to talk about a specific model, we'd be here all day. Personally, i don't think there's anything wrong with mentioning 1 or 2 people involved in releasing a model to differentiate it from another, especially since everyone involved will be mentioned in each mod's credits list.
DMz, i still remember when you first showed us that KT of yours. The camo looks dam good, and i really like the tools, commander antenna, and other accessories you've added to it.
@LD
Not true. All the names of contributors are listed for releases. We just don't have a readme included in the download.
Well Ive finally got it so im somewhere near happy with theresult, all textures made and my zimmeritt added to them all plus a new nrm made with the annoyung now unwanted bits removed.
The only parts not on the origional uv are Top hatch barbers poles and stowage tools ect, barrel and the other bits went on okay after a bit of a fight.
Its a new barrel 3 piece 8 sided with hollow end.
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New nrm. Pain in the ass, all cos i wanted zimm & a custom barrel :/ .
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Oh sorry @DMZ, I wont bother you mate, but the name @Skyward I hear the first time. It's like @LD says, I only remember the old thread from the models of @HT/@TD. At least now it is explicitely credited to @Skyward.And i always find it rather uncomfortable that everyone always says Halftrack and TDs, no one ever seems to bother to mention Skyward, the who that sloged his ass off modelling the thing and smoothing it plus uvwrapping it.
Do you plan to release your own model also? I like those addons and the overall look and feel of this beast.Credits for the model go to Skyward!!!
Dmz, how do you make the normal maps? Do you use the nvidia dds plugin? If so, what settings?
The KT looks frikin epic, reminds me of medal of honor
Last edited by Aidas2; 5th Dec 11 at 8:48 AM.
On the left side, those ought to be cleaning rods for the main gun barrel, not artillery survey sticks...
Other than that, perfecto
You have to play with that. For different things you need different settings. Plus you can play with each channel before multiplying, down merging and filling. Especially the green channel you can adjust the contrast with as it looks more like a pencil drawing at its raw stage.If so, what settings?
I personally favour a nrm map skilfully set up, and only for zimmerit, burning the nrm's alpha in the diffuse map. The two combined makes it as if it were real 3D.cos i wanted zimm
Zimmeritt is on dif spc gls and nrm, and in the alpha n the nrm, i find it doesnt show up correctly and looks weak ingame unless you add it to all 4 textures.
Mirage knight, it stays as is, kingtigers didnt carry cleaning rods, they carried the poles, in orger to navigate narrow roads bridges and gullies, they are so the driver can get some idea of the clearance each side. Unlike everyone thinks, the kingtiger wasnt really a practical vehical, it was very limited as to the roads it could traverse, and the weight was very limiting to the routes it could follow where they were able to find river crossings that could support the tank. The thing even had problems going across open fields, once the ground was wet, it sank like a submarine.
Really - I never knew that! You certainly did your homework there matethey carried the poles, in orger to navigate narrow roads bridges and gullies, they are so the driver can get some idea of the clearance each side
I know that KT's couldn't use most of the rural bridges in Europe due to weight restrictions and that their wide stance made navigating most country roads rather difficult. I was also under the impression that the wide combat tracks actually gave the KT decent ground pressure and traction when moving through mud and snow. Learned something new today
Fine with me, now that I know betterit stays as is
Out of curiosity, where did you glean that bit of info on the surveying poles?
#3563
Ah, no sorry mate, i was referring to the models released in HTs & TDs 3D Factory thread, not yours. Their's weren't released with any included documentation at all. I quite appreciate that you go to the trouble to post a proper credits list with every release. I do think it would be handy to include a credits.txt file in each release's .rar as well, after all, these releases will hopefully still be floating around and being downloaded long after the thread dries up, or at least long after the relevant posts wind up buried in a 3500 post thread. (which just spells your success@LD
Not true. All the names of contributors are listed for releases. We just don't have a readme included in the download.
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Screenshots
SdKfz 250/1 Ausf. A
SdKfz 250/1 Ausf. B
SdKfz 250/5 Ausf. A
SdKfz 250/5 Ausf. B
SdKfz 250/7 Ausf. A
SdKfz 250/7 Ausf. B
SdKfz 250/8 Ausf. B
SdKfz 250/9 Ausf. A
SdKfz 250/9 Ausf. B
SdKfz 250/10 Ausf. A
SdKfz 250/10 Ausf. B
SdKfz 250/11 Ausf. A
SdKfz 252
SdKfz 253
Readme
SdKfz 250 variants, Version 1.0
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Credits:
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Custom Models by DMz, Loran Koran (MG 34) and ^Beefy
Custom Textures by DMz, Loran Koran (MG 34) and ^Beefy
Animations and Attributes by eliw00d
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Includes:
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SdKfz 250/1 Ausf. A/B
SdKfz 250/3 Ausf. A/B
SdKfz 250/5 Ausf. A/B
SdKfz 250/7 Ausf. A/B
SdKfz 250/8 Ausf. B
SdKfz 250/9 Ausf. A/B
SdKfz 250/10 Ausf. A/B
SdKfz 250/11 Ausf. A
SdKfz 252
SdKfz 253
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Installation:
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Extract contents into your mod's root directory. Some assembly required.
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Entity Blueprint:
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alternate_sua: Races\PanzerElite\Vehicles\Sdkfz_250\Sdkfz_250
animator: races\german\vehicles\sdkfz_250\sdkfz_250
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States:
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do_action_state_name: 250_1, 250_3, 250_5, 250_7, 250_8, 250_9, 250_10, 250_11, 252, 253
state_machine_name: sdkfz_variation
Note: sdkfz_variation only works with certain states of hull_variation. See the list above for a better understanding.
do_action_state_name: ausf_a, ausf_b
state_machine_name: hull_variation
do_action_state_name: 280rpm, 480rpm
state_machine_name: rate_of_fire
Note: rate_of_fire only works on the SdKfz 250/9 Ausf. A variant. It toggles the rate of fire for your choice of either 2cm
KwK 30 or KwK 38.
do_action_state_name: off, on
state_machine_name: upgrade_armor
Note: upgrade_armor only works on the SdKfz 250/10 variant. It toggles the shield for the 3,7cm PaK 36.
do_action_state_name: false, true
state_machine_name: gun_stowed
Note: gun_stowed only works on the SdKfz 250/11 Ausf. A variant. It toggles the 2,8cm sPzB 41 visibility, as it was meant
to be dismounted for ground use as well.
do_action_state_name: command, munitions
state_machine_name: interior_variation
Note: interior_variation only works on the SdKfz 252 variant. It toggles the stowage found inside.
do_action_state_name: off, on
state_machine_name: supply_state
Note: supply_state only works on the SdKfz 252 variant. It toggles the rear doors.
do_action_state_name: down, up
state_machine_name: aerial_state
Note: aerial_state only works on the SdKfz 253 variant. It toggles the radio antenna.
do_action_state_name: off, on
state_machine_name: commander_upgrade
Note: commander_upgrade only works on the SdKfz 252 and 253 variants. It toggles the top hatch for a Commander.
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Weapons:
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SdKfz 250/8 Ausf. B
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state_name: main_gun_state
track_horizontal: kwk37_horiz
track_horizontal_speed: kwk37_horiz_speed
track_vertical: kwk37_vertical
max_down: -10
max_left: -12
max_right: 12
max_up: 12
launcher_marker: marker_kwk37_gun_barrel_end
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SdKfz 250/9 Ausf. A
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state_name: kwk30_state
track_horizontal: kwk30_horiz
track_horizontal_speed: kwk30_horiz_speed
track_vertical: kwk30_vertical
max_down: -4
max_left: -180
max_right: 180
max_up: 87
fx_tracer_name: 20mm_puma_tracer
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SdKfz 250/9 Ausf. B
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state_name: kwk38_state
track_horizontal: kwk38_horiz
track_horizontal_speed: kwk38_horiz_speed
track_vertical: kwk38_vertical
max_down: -4
max_left: -180
max_right: 180
max_up: 87
fx_tracer_name: 20mm_puma_tracer
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SdKfz 250/11 Ausf. A
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state_name: main_gun_state
track_horizontal: spzb41_horiz
track_horizontal_speed: spzb41_horiz_speed
track_vertical: spzb41_vertical
max_down: -5
max_left: -15
max_right: 15
max_up: 5
launcher_marker: marker_spzb41_barrel_end
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Last edited by eliw00d; 12th Dec 11 at 8:37 AM.
SdKfz 251 variants coming soon as well. Let me know if there are any issues!
It's funny, I began the SdKfz 250 project when Slayerknecht brought up the idea for more Ausf. B variants. Are you still around, Slayerknecht? Sorry it took so long!
I hope nobody minds, but I removed the chassis shake animation. It bugged me.
Wow that's a full set of stuff, many to trying out on cold winter days ...
Great work maties!
There's more to come!
There also comes more cold winter days, so we have time enough for ...
That gets my seal of approvalI hope nobody minds, but I removed the chassis shake animation. It bugged me.
Oh god not more halftracks, im seing them like spots in front of my eyes lol
awesome!
@DMz: You do realize that you're going to have to change your nick now, right?
You and ^Beefy did a sterling job on the models, work that deserves much thanks and praise from us. Eli, much gratitude goes to you as well for helping get these models ingame with all the options they have. To use an old english expression, you lads ought to be dead chuffed over what you've accomplished and done for everyone else in the COH community.
Cheers mates
@Aidas2
LOL
So many halftrack variations in just that one release I don't know what to do with them all...and then there's the upcoming SdKfz 251 release
Oh well, I'll figure out something
No release is perfect, and I just noticed that the crew might not work for the /8 and /11. So, here is a hotfix for those that have downloaded the package already:
Download
Some states have changed, so check the readme.
If you have not downloaded the package yet, you don't need the hotfix as I have updated the original package.
#3577
Cool package eli, they look great! What exactly is the purpose of the 253?
http://homepage.eircom.net/~nightingale/sdkfz252.htm
http://homepage.eircom.net/~nightingale/sdkfz253.htm
Both the 252 and 253 were early war (1940) vehicles. The 252 being a munitions carrier and the 253 being an observation vehicle for use with Sturmgeschuetz and later artillery units. The 252 was replaced by the 250/6 later on (which is just a 250/1 with ammunition boxes inside), but I'm not sure how long the 253 was used for. Production stopped in 1941 with only 285 units, so I would assume they would see little to no use in 1944.
I believe the 1939 organization was something like this:
1. Zug
1 x SdKfz 253 (Zugtrupp)
2 x StuG III Ausf. A
1 x SdKfz 252
2. Zug
wie 1.
3. Zug
wie 1.
Last edited by eliw00d; 9th Dec 11 at 9:27 AM.
253 Id quess as a command vehicle or coms vehicle, seems reasonable for early war and north africa period. 252 was munitions carrier with ss units aswell as a command vehical till about middle of 42 early 43, i suppose they just let them die, didnt bother repairing them, bit like my engineers in vanilla.
@DMz
LOL! I'd hate to be an Engineer under your command.
I'd imagine that the early vehicles would have been used as long as they could until they were lost either through combat or irreparable wear and tear. 10th SS pz. Div. "Frundsberg" employed a few 250/11's and even a couple of 253's for its StuG Batteries as late as mid '44. I've heard of instances of ex-StuG Batterie 252's being used to haul food and munitions to frontline troops and on rare occasions serving in their original role - supplying extra rounds to StuG's. The longer rounds for the 7.5cm StuK40 as compared to the shorter rounds for the 7.5cm StuK37 necessitated rearranging internal stowage however and naturally they couldn't carry as many rounds. The 250/6 was certainly more useful as it could carry far more shells with no loss in performance.
So I setup the 252 and it's invisible in game.
Variations are under critical actions:
252
sdkfz_variation
munitions
interior_variation
on
supply_state
on
commander_upgrade
I have all the files, didn't touch anything.
Shows up in worldbuilder for me, but I'm not using the supply_state. Lemme check that...
edit: Yup, shows up fine for me. Are those the only animator states you're using? Also are your paths set up right for your ebps and sbps files? Even I forget to check sometimes
@ Aidas
Did you set the animator line to Races\German\Vehicles\sdkfz_250\sdkfz_250? I didn't read the instructions carefully before and set it the animator to 252 before and it also turned invisible for me.
Hes too busy painting it desert sand to be looking at animator lines, poor Halftrack.
Aside from the advice already given, make sure the hull_variation is set to ausf_a on both the 252 and 253, as they were not made on Ausf. B chassis.
@Crimson
I will add that to the instructions. There is only one ABP, but many states. I figured it didn't need explaining since I had written out the states.
Last edited by eliw00d; 9th Dec 11 at 1:20 PM.
I didn't use that myself, but everything displayed fine - with the exception of getting a "commander" to show up by default. Shall tinker with that a bit more later.make sure the hull_variation is set to ausf_a on both the 252 and 253, as they were not made on Ausf. B chassis.
@Mirage Knight
You shouldn't have to set it, since the default is ausf_a, but it never hurts to be safe. But, it sounds like Aidas did what Crimson mentioned, if it's 100% invisible.
I'm getting my own problem here. I've set all my states, but my commanders don't show up, and neither does the ammo door of the 252, even though I set the supply_state to on already. Also, these two MG42s show up on my 252s and 253s.
@Crimson
I've never used Worldbuilder, so I have no advice for you there. However, the Commander not showing up is probably due to it not being included in the ABP (my fault). As for the MG42s, those should disappear in-game, or you can force them off with pintle_mg42_state: invisible.
I'm guessing I add this line to the abp? (Same one I use for the Tiger tanks)
"..\\..\\..\\Commonwealth\\Soldiers\\Vehicles\\Tank_Commander",
@Crimson
Yes. I will add that to the package for future downloaders.
RGDs.rar
Hi Eli,
Sorry to keep bugging you about this thing, but I did tried turning off the MG42 with states and it just removed the front MG. The line was added to the abp, and commanders did show, up, but not as expected. I tested them in-game and this is what they looked like.
These are the .rgd files I used for the 252 and the 253. Perhaps if you are kind enough, you can take a look at my states and figure out what I'm doing wrong? I'd be very appreciative.
I think I have a solution for you there, Crimson.
First, make sure you have only 3 critical actions and no upgrade actions. The critical actions will be for the sdkfz_variation, interior_variation, commander_upgrade, and possibly one more for the antennae on the 253, if you want it up.
Second, make sure there are no weapons specified in the combat_ext.
Third, you might want to consider editing or deleting the hold extension for both vehicles - assuming you're basing the ebps files off an existing sdkfz 250 file...which is part of the problem you're having I'd gather.
This ought to take care of your MG problems. Hope that helps
This is how I have mine set up, with no weapons:
do_action_state_name: invisible
state_machine: pintle_mg42_state
do_action_state_name: invisible
state_machine: pintle_rear_mg42_state
do_action_state_name: ausf_a
state_machine: hull_variation
do_action_state_name: 252, 253
state_machine: sdkfz_variation
The Commander should automatically switch to the right cupola if the states are done correctly. Also, as MK said, these should always be critical actions, not upgrade.
Edit:
Just realized that the RGA files were somehow not included. Sigh. Always something. :/
Here is, hopefully, the last hotfix:
Download
I thought RGAs were Saved and Exported through OE, but apparently not. My mistake.
Okay, uploaded the Hotfix and re-packaged the original. Current as of 17:20 CST.
Last edited by eliw00d; 9th Dec 11 at 4:20 PM.
With the RGA files, I got everything figured out, except for the commander on the 252. The commander and ammo hatches now open and the antenna also comes up for the 253, but the commander on the 252 is still in the wrong place.
Any idea about the commander on the 252? The one on the 253 works already.
I do believe eli is working on that as I type this
Okay, I have determined the cause of the issue and fixed it. I have done as much testing as I can to ensure that everything is in order. To make sure everyone is on the same page, just download the package again:
Download
I apologize for the inconvenience, but everything should work now.
On a good note, I have learned a new technique in troubleshooting this that will benefit future position changes.
No worries eli - thanks again
After downloading and replacing all the files, both commanders and all the hatches work, but now the antenna for the 252 is gone, and the one on the 253 refuses to come up. I apologize for being such a nitpick, and if you want to stop there, its perfectly fine; I can definitely live with the vehicles at this state. Thanks so for for all your efforts, Eli.
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