The color patterns need to be more random and less stripey for taidan, they do have tiny red dots and retangles too.
It doesn't feel taidan yet to me, perhaps due that taidan corvettes have a asymmetrical focus when it comes to top and bottom.
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The color patterns need to be more random and less stripey for taidan, they do have tiny red dots and retangles too.
It doesn't feel taidan yet to me, perhaps due that taidan corvettes have a asymmetrical focus when it comes to top and bottom.
Didn't look taiidani to me until I though of the Light Corvette, which I never used.
My instinct says it needs to be a bit more boxy to look taiidani.
This damn ugly thing is my attempt to be original:
Wow this is much more than original:
-the shape
-the texture
The barrel is the only thing that i don't like very much, the way it end.
Very nice texture. Do you have a tutorial for making a similar texture to that one?
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I agree. That's one of the most unique textures I have ever seen!
Who's that guy?
After, maybe it lack aslo a little of smoothiness ^^. The angle are quite strong in many occasion, the poly lighting have quite brutal wierd variaton from on the next the next.
Very awesome, Pouk. I liked it. Original in style, like the Homeworlds made by relic. Although, the barrel did look a bit odd, agreeing with Tony...
I'd say, it would also use some practically useless antennas and stuff like that. Some textures for making battle-worn units too. n.n
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Interesting, but it doesn't fit with the Hiigarans or the Vaygr. The bone-shape gives it way too much surface area exposed to the enemy, making it a bigger, easier to hit, target.
As always, I am blown away by Pouk's artistry, but this model just doesn't fit IMO.
To be honest, it looks like a Bentusi gun platform, but with the Bentusi history, that would be next to impossible.
@ GB, broadly I'd agree but playing Devil's advocate, I'd have to point out that the Hiigaran Destroyer doesn't look Hiigaran in anyway, shape or form. It's the only ship in their arsenal that has a high profile. With that in mind, there's already precedent for something different.
Anyway Pouk, great design and very interesting textures. Somehow they look more real than the originals.
TonyOneBlairoby: What particularly about the barrel? I could change it.
TON_Viper: I could make a tutorial (not now though), but I'm not sure what would be in it. It's mostly just black lines (joints, I don't know how to call it), some white around them and some base metal texture to make it less flat. Wouldn't it be easier just to send you the texture file made in Photoshop CS4?
TonyOneBlairoby again: Yeah I realized I certainly didn't waste polygons there, maybe I'll fix it.
GBscientist: No you misunderstood. It's a new race. It's a result of MelvinVM's post saying that I do only Hiigaran and Vaygr, what would a new race from me look like.
And I don't agree with your comment about the configuration. Yes, you're absolutely right about that the profile is very big and easy to hit, but the point of this design is to bring all weapons to fire positions. You don't have to turn your ship around to fire, you have all weapons in front of you. It's a ship built around the weapons.
rsilverblood: I see it has some of Bentusi in it, not intentional at all.
Everyone: Thanks for the positive feedback, it's very appreciated, thank you.
yeah i have to say POUK ur work to date has been great..
i personally like the rounded turrets but the barrels seem a little oddly shapped considering the shape of the vessel. maybe its just the screen shot angles. but over all very nicely made..
texturing is again amazing.. i to would like to see how u achived this effect. .
kinda guess the ship was not of the 2 main HW2 styles. and its nice to see you branching out . the ideas it will generate will stand to improve every ones ideas
Pouk, the barrels do seem like they could be more futuristic. Something different than just an ordinary looking gun barrel.
If a new race does come out from this, man, it would be AWESOME!! Something like a hybrid between bentusi and something else.
Anyways, keep up the good work. n.n
I await new models and textures with anxiety! n.n
Actually it's mainly the base metal texture I'm interested in. I've been trying to find a good one, or a tutorial on how to make one from scratch.Originally Posted by Pouk
I could probably get some good tips from looking at your source texture, so if you're offering it, I'd be happy to get a copy.
About the barrels: Well the race isn't supposed to be Hi-tech, but rather heavy and brute force. But that's one frigate, the second will differ in turrets and it will have plasma launchers (probably orange colored pulses, maybe a new FX texture).
rsilverblood: New race, well yes and no. It will be an ally, it won't have the whole infrastructure, no collectors for example and it will have only few ships.
TON_Viper: Best resource of textures is cgtextures.com. And I've sent you the ship textures via PM.
Could I get them too Pouk?
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@Pouk: Aahhh, I get it. Well, try to use curves and other robust looking shapes. I can't wait for more! n.n
If it's a new race that makes a lot more sense. I didn't realise you were going to take up MelvinVM's challenge.GBscientist: No you misunderstood. It's a new race. It's a result of MelvinVM's post saying that I do only Hiigaran and Vaygr, what would a new race from me look like. And I don't agree with your comment about the configuration. Yes, you're absolutely right about that the profile is very big and easy to hit, but the point of this design is to bring all weapons to fire positions. You don't have to turn your ship around to fire, you have all weapons in front of you. It's a ship built around the weapons.
It is possible to make all the weapons face the target at the same time without going broad-side. All you have to do is make the turrets that are further forward 'lower' and the turrets further from the front 'higher'. You see an example of this with the front and top turrets of the Hiigaran Destroyer. If you want the wide aesthetic for your new race, though, all my arguments have no bearing.
http://img49.xooimage.com/files/0/e/...el-1faaa91.png
I just don't like very much the way it end, It look like a pipe vulgarly cuted in diagonal.
I beleive you use this cut angle for fit with the rest of the turret shape, which is quite flat, laying down on the hull not to expose too much. So i don't see the point of not using this angle on the barrel, it make the barrel a well continuity of the turret shape. But i still feel that the way you have done is a little brutal, about the extremity (but maybe i am wrong about this guess xD).
Maybe a simple texture work at the extremity could make the global thing look better.
Here a quick representation of what i could think about, i know it is way too high poly, but i can't mesh with lower count as i don't know texture xD, i make all i think as mesh then xD.
At least you can use this as inspiration.
http://img47.xooimage.com/files/c/b/...on-1faadc5.jpg
and sry for the render xD, if i had wing installed on this comp, i would have made clean hardedging ^^, i still don't get it in MS3D.
Tony, I totally agree with you about the barrel shape. Your version looks freakin AWESOME!!! n.n
I've said this on modDB too but I love the design. It's really refreshing and new and still wonderful to look at!
Keep it up
Pouk the texture looks great, just one thing, the black lines(joints) should fit the geometry more, in order to give more the idea of panels and diferent parts that fit together (like in the top view), but in a way that makes more sense to assemble. just take a look at a car for example... one more thing, when adding small details(and you should add more) make sure they don't go on top of a closer angle or a corner, it looks bad when seen from diferent perspectives(like the yellow thing in the center left picture)
Great ship, keep it up...
Here's an update on my Excalibur model, where I've incorporated a few ideas I got from looking at Pouk's texture:
Still adding details to the texture, so many areas are still empty.
Updates will follow when I've gotten a bit further.
I'm so Jealous of your guy's ability to texture. Great Work!
Would you believe this is my first real attempt at a texture that isn't just adding minor stuff to an existing texture?
Of course, it helps to know what does what in Photoshop.
*edit*
Btw, update:
Really? Your the guy who makes the B5 mod, I figured this was a cakewalk for you.
I'm only one of the guys on the team. I mainly do backgrounds and maps; oh, and the music. CnlPepper and Zeelich did most of the ships.
This is my first model that I've actually come this close to finishing.
I did part of a Wing Commander Bearcat fighter a few years back, but it never really got off the ground, so to speak. In any case, it is lost to the mists of time.
Ah I see now. Nevertheless, you've done some great work.
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Ender... it seems you are doing some bentusi ship, am I correct?
If so, I think there are two problems: the ship isn't robust looking (too thin), and it doesn't follow bentusi styling in some ways.
Maybe some model cross bred between Bentus and the Bentusi mothership in HW1 would be best?
I like it, it looks like an early semi built version of bentus, or a new gen bentusi reborn to kick ass.
Needs more detail thou... and bigger pics.
#634
I've only spent a few hours on it so far, so it's by no means complete. it still needs detail and tweaking
Those two prongs underneath (2nd pic) are going to be ions.
I imagined it as a cruiser, so smaller than a tradeship, but significantly bigger than the frigate from the hw1 cut scene.
Edit: @Jkberna: are familiar with the bentusi back story? the one where they completely own the Kushan empire's fleet before deciding to demilitarize (i think from remorse, but don't quote me on that). If the tradeships triple ions is what they consider de-militarized...
Well, I imagine that a more spherical ship in a U shape would be more of a bentusi style. But, yeah, I imagined it to be a cruiser of sorts. Although, probably would be best for it to just be taller, and make the prongs stick out of the hull almost invasively...
Bentusi are my favorite race so this automatically is Awesome too me. This inspires me to start a bentusi ship...."Turns on Blender"
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I'm quite pleased everyone's recognised it as bentusi ^_^
Jkbernra, i'll do bigger pics when there's enough detail to make it worthwhile
@Rsilverblood: I don't quite get what you mean by "more spherical ship in a U shape" and "make the prongs stick out of the hull almost invasively"
@Ender: Try making a more robust shape, like the tradeship, but a bit less tall. Add pronges that come out from the curved shape at the front of the ship. Or try making a cruiser version of the Bentus. n.n
I couldn't help myself and added some more panel lines to the ship before going to bed.
This time you get a view of the bottom, along with an isometric view of the top:
I gotta figure out where the landing gear is supposed to stow on this ship, so I can add the hatches to the right places. I just don't have any proper shots of the underside of the thing. Only a very low res top/bottom shot.
jkberna: I'm aware that the joints aren't much logical on a half of the ship, but in this case I've made them the way they are in purpose to support the general shape. For example from the front view they make a wide X, which is even more curved into the middle, making the sides a little less flat. Or the bottom lines on the back side are meant to optically separate this part, to make it more thin, like if the side "wings" were growing right out of the bridge.
TON_Viper: I'm glad I could be helpful, you've got a nice progress there.
Barrel - I understand what do you mean now, but I personally don't have any problem with the simplicity of it. But I'll consider it.
And the same thing with a different weapons:
I've gotten a little more done on the model. For one, I found a better bottom view, so I've started putting more details in along the bottom now:
Another thing is that the view was in color, so now I can be more sure of which shapes are supposed to be panels, and which are supposed to be little warning labels and such.
*edit*
Btw, here's the source image I'm basing the model on:
Huuh lovely ones Pouk :P
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are the weapon on that ship with the new turrets.. are they ion cannons or torp's or some kinds reverse truster engines the glow effect looks like one from a engine decal . correct me if im wrong..
Mr_spaceyhead: 360 degree plasma launchers.
@Pouk: Yeah, now it looks freakin awesome!!! Dude, perfect! n.n
What race is it? it doesn't really look higaran or vaygr to me.
rsilverblood: thanks
MelvinVM: You're asking what race is it? Well you was the one telling me that I do only Hiigs and Vaygr, so here you have it, something new.
oh, I thought the ReArm mod was only focused at the existing races.
Otherwise, the thing looks very original indeed, looking forward to seeing more of this race.
yees, very cool ships.
MelvinVM: Yes it is. But as someone else said, I'm doing this to keep myself sane. And it will be only few ships anyway.
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