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Royal Hungarian Army project (Update: 2013.06.11. - Panther skin)

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    Royal Hungarian Army project (Update: 2013.06.11. - Panther skin)

    After the appearance of the Eastern-Front and the announcement of its relation with the Russian military force Normandy 44, the idea presents itself, that the CoH should contain allied german forces (N44 American/British ->French, Canadian, Polish).
    The decision fell on the Hungarian Royal Army for the country history of cooperation with the Germans and because the serious (tactical) battles fought in its territory

    Historic to the Royal Hungarian Army in the WW2



    Who agrees with us in the fact that the Hungarian Royal Army have the right to he CoH, help us with ideas or even knowledge to create some vehicles, a unit, or a weapon.
    Greet the cooperation!!


    RHA project team:

    Leader:
    -Thiky83 (Historian)

    Second Leader:
    -TigerTanker (Corsix editor)

    Models:
    -DMz
    -Aidas2
    -Blackbishop
    -Jorge2125
    -Angelic
    -Pippaman
    -MasterT (Hungarian Front /BF1942/ mod)
    -Zlatotog (Hungarian vehicles /MoW/)
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    Animator:
    -Eliwood
    -BurtondrummerNY
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    Skins:
    -Slayerknecht
    -VanAdrian
    -Zupadupadude
    -Rain
    -Mancer
    -MasterT (Hungarian Front /BF1942/ mod)
    -Zlatotog (Hungarian vehicles /MoW/)
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    Maps:
    -ChickenNuggets
    -Pippaman
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    Icons:
    -VanAdrian
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    Finished:
    Ju-87 skin by Slayerknecht

    Ju-87 - RHAF 2/2 Dive-Bomber Squadron


    Hetzer skins by Rain

    Hetzer - 20th Assault Artillery Class & an unidentified Hungarian unit


    Tiger skin by Mancer

    Tiger - 2nd Honvéd Armored Division


    Panther skin by Mancer

    Panther - 2nd Honvéd Armored Division


    Schwarzlose MG by Inukshuk and Eliw00d

    Schwarzlose in tripod


    Mannlicher 31M by Inukshuk and Eliw00d

    Mannlicher 31M


    Mannlicher 35M by Aidas2 and DMz

    Mannlicher 35M


    Frommer 37M by Nachocheese and Eliw00d

    Frommer 37M


    Danuvia 39M (Király SMG) by Aidas2 and DMz

    Danuvia 39M


    Danuvia 43M (Király SMG) by Inukshuk and Eliw00d

    Danuvia 43M


    Solothurn 31M by Inukshuk and Eliw00d

    Solothurn 31M


    Granades by DMz

    Granades: 39M Lánggránát, 39M Vécsey, 42M Vécsey


    Upgrade and ability icons by VanAdrian

    Upgrade and ability icons



    Official Moddb site:
    http://www.moddb.com/mods/company-of...ate-of-hungary
    Last edited by Thiky83; 15th Jun 13 at 6:44 AM. Reason: new: Panther skin

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    Nice little history lesson there

    Sound rather interesting but could you tell a bit more about vehicles/equipment/vehicles used?

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    While I'm not part of this mod, I do know that Hungarian forces used a mixture of their own equipment and some German equipment. For example they had their own tanks, the Toldi and Turan, but for medium tanks they initially used Panzer III and Panzer IV models, and later on received some Hetzers. They also developed an assault gun with a 105mm howitzer, named the Zrinyi.

    They had their own armoured car, the Csaba, but no armoured half-tracks for infantry transport. They used a Swedish (Landsverk) design for an anti-aircraft tank which mounted a Bofors gun, which they named the Nimrod. Medium anti-tank guns were mostly German purchases, like the PaK38 and PaK40, with some older guns still in their arsenal.

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    Apart from the original hungarian vehicles:
    In the early years used Italian Fiat-Ansaldo 35M
    The hungarian army often used german equipments and vehicles too.
    PzKpfw II, PzKpfw 38(t), PzKpfw III, PzKpfw IV, Pather, Tiger, Stug III, Hetzer, Marder II
    Opel, Krupp, Mercedes trucks
    And used captured russian vehicles (T26, T27, BT7, T34) and early german captuerd tanks (Hotchkiss H35)

    Apart from the original hungarian equipments:
    Used German: MP40, MG34/MG42, Panzerfaust

    Hungarian vehicles:
    Botond 38/42M (truck):
    Botond 41M (artillery tractor)
    Csaba 39M (armoured car):
    Csaba 40M
    (command armoured car):
    Toldi I (Light Tank):
    Toldi II (Light Tank):
    (Toldi I with another radio and another aerial)
    Toldi II/A (Light Tank):
    Turán I (Medium Tank):
    Turán II (Medium Tank):
    Zrínyi II (assault howitzer):
    Nimród (anti-aircraft):
    Last edited by Thiky83; 19th May 12 at 2:27 AM.

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    actually, the Hungarians sound like an excellent idea as tech tree units, rather than a faction by itself >.>
    AKA Sad_eyed_Irony!!

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    If the community had more animators, modelers and texture artists, I would love to see all the minor nations make it into Fortress Europe, such as Finland, Hungary, Romania, etc. Even though most minor nations made use of their co-belligerent's / ally's equipment, there are still some models and skins that would need to be made. A project, indeed, but probably not one that can happen any time soon due to the emphasis on the major powers in the community at the moment.

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    With the small number of modellers and animators in the CoH community, I think this project might take a long time to complete. Just like the Eatern Front mod, it took them years just to build up the Soviet Army. But, interesting faction you're about to work on, maybe some guys here might help you. If they're aren't busy though.
    If they throw rocks at you, try throwing Panther shells at them would'ya?
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    May be subordinate or faction, we'll see what we manages to make.
    It is possible to put into more mods.
    I don't think so it last long becouse you can use things what is already in the game. It is not possible to compare it the red army with the Hungarian neither in a size in an neither equipment his quantity.

    Hungarian equipments:
    Frommer Stop:
    or
    Frommer 37M:

    Mannlicher 31M:
    or
    Mannlicher 35M:

    Király-(Danuvia) 39M:
    or
    Király-(Danuvia)43M:

    Solothurn 31M (license):

    Schwarzlose 07/31M machine gun (static):
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    @Thiky: What I mean is, I saw those Hungarian Army vehicles you posted here that's equal to the Red Army Vehicle Numbers (I think).
    Otherwise, I would like to be a part of this mod dude.

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    I do not dare to dream about for all vehicle to be ready.
    We say it would be good.
    I said it because of this: "May be subordinate or faction, we'll see what we manages to make."
    Thanx all helpful hands!!

    To win, to win, to win we must him, we have one homeland, one our god...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJd1T10kYv8

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    I suggest that it would be very great to make this as a Commander Tree. Would be nice to add it to the Eastern front mod.

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    Even to the Eastern Front, even to the Normandy 44 (eastern front section), but as Eliwood wrote it "to the Fortress Europe". But see, that none mod leader did not write yet here, that good idea you are or something, only Eliwood. I know there is much work with him, but....
    Occasion, if somebody would make one or another, let it write and I add all substances to it! (blueprints, illustrations, pictures, Specifications)

    Hungarian uniform:
    with munition bag:

    complete going equipment:

    with camo tent fabric

    medic zsávoly (dress goods) uniform

    complete
    http://www.huniform.com/gallery/ered...dalak&id=4.jpg
    Last edited by Thiky83; 23rd Oct 11 at 9:43 AM.

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    Well, if Eliwood wanted you in his team, why not join? Maybe there is really a place for you there. And maybe you would be a part of my upcoming mod soon, if you like. Are you the one who will model/map/mod/animate or something in your mod? Just asking.

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    @Thiky83
    I'm sorry if I came off as being selfish with my post, that was not my intent. Of course other mods could use models representing the minor powers, but with how we've designed Fortress Europe we could represent them as independently playable nations, instead of just doctrine choices or a couple of units. That's all I was trying to say.

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    We no understood selfishness your writing, just I said that you responded altogether only. I may not say that there should be a faction the Hungarian army, only this many people you join. Only some unit would be ready so.
    I would be glad about it, if some things smarter and proficient members or teams would undertake.
    I don't want very to ask for, because I do not want to be intrusive.

    http://forum.axishistory.com/downloa....php?id=191906
    http://forum.axishistory.com/downloa....php?id=185155
    http://forum.axishistory.com/downloa....php?id=186607

    Go to eastern front
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHOyBxhpHw
    Fight in eastern front
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT1-7tLG238
    German and Hungarian troops in eastern front
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLq1gPyhHU8
    Last edited by Thiky83; 13th Jun 10 at 9:46 AM.

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    Sok sikert, szügséged lesz ra. Amugy ha jol latom az Toldi 1-s keped az Toldi 2 , Toldi 1-nek az a furcsa kerek antenaja volt a tornyon...

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    Köszi a helyesbítést, de az egyszerűség kedvéért inkább nézd a löveg kaliberét!!
    Amit írsz jogos valahol:
    The Toldi A20 had a R-5 radio with arc aerial and low German torsional spring ,until the B20 version (Toldi II) had R-5/a radio with whip antenna and stronger Hungarian spring. In the Toldi II/A B40 rebuild version the gun caliber grew to 40mm and got stronger armour.
    Te is így tudod?

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    Marches it onto north back annexed areas - 1938
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YlvrovRIqU

    Marches it onto eastern back annexed areas - 1940
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uzU425R2pQ

    The recapture of south areas. Fight on Yugoslavia - 1941
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6HgZ3IMhQ
    First deploy the Hungarian airbornes.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8WuGg96aGo
    Procession than fast divisions homecoming on Budapest/ riverine procession
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKM_IXuj0AQ
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    I observ, you know what im speaking about. Igy Perfekt

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    i didn't know Hungary had all this stuff, this mod is a good idea mate.

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    @Kapp'n: I beg your pardon.

    @Szeder: I see your mod (Hungarian Army mod for the Red Orchestra)!! Nice!!
    Maybe an a little bit strong the :
    44M Tas heavy tank:
    http://forum.valka.cz/files/377_1025654140.jpg
    and
    Tas assault gun:
    http://forum.valka.cz/files/377_1025654450.jpg
    Only like this away!

    @Ninja117: Thanx! I hope so he succeed to accomplish my ideas then.
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    For exemple, we made Toldi A20,B20,A40 , Turan I,II,III, T38 "pzkpfw 38(t)" ,JagdPanzer 38(t)-> but is in COH , Tas 44M, JagdTas , Nimrod, Zrinyi I,II , Csaba 39M, i think i didnt forget anything. And for the russians we made SU100 and KV85, other are in Red Orchestra.
    Now we are working on weapons.

    @JungleGuerilla, For exemple I Model/Script/Animate and fight with unreal engine , but i have other people to help me, but if you really want to make a mod, You make it!

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    According to me, that in the CoH is not need prototype vehicles. (The reason limiting them being built, the raw material deficiency and the taint of production or American/english bombardment)
    44M Tas /heavy tank/, Tas assault gun,
    43M Toldi III /light tank/:

    Toldi /tank hunter/:
    Turán III /heavy tank/:
    Zrínyi I /assault gun/:
    (with long cal. 75mm barrel)
    Last edited by Thiky83; 10th Dec 12 at 3:59 AM.

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    Just a quick question, since you guys are Hungarian:

    Are these the correct words for Batteries, Companies and Platoons (respectively)?

    Tüzérségi
    Században
    Szakaszok

    And I just noticed one of you is Romanian, are these correct as well?

    Baterii
    Companii
    Plutoane

    Thanks for your time.

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    The Hungarian names are whole exactly:

    Artillery - Tüzérség (organization unit) - Tüzérségi (adjective)
    Battery - Üteg (organization unit)
    Army - Hadsereg
    Corps - Hadtest
    Division - Hadosztály
    Regiment - Ezred
    Battalion - Zászlóalj
    Company - Század
    Platoon - Szakasz
    Squad - Osztag
    Soldier - Honvéd
    Pionnier - Utász
    Sniper - Mesterlövész
    Airborne - Ejtöernyös
    Tank crew - Harckocsizó
    Scout - Felderítö
    Machine-gun - Géppuska
    Mortar - Aknavetö
    Air Support - Légi támogatás
    Anti-aircraft - Légelhárító
    Anti-tank - Páncélelhárító
    Assault Gun - Rohamlöveg
    Assault Howitzer - Rohamtarack
    Tank Hunter - Páncélvadász
    Tank - Harckocsi (light - könnyü / medium - közepes / heavy - nehéz)
    Armored car - Páncélozott gumikerekü

    If you have any question, write it!
    Last edited by Thiky83; 13th Mar 12 at 9:41 AM.

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    That helps a lot. Thanks!

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    1942 Newsreels:
    the antecedents of 1942 year and procession before Keitel German field marshal and eastern front defence
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrPB_lbK8EI
    sequel and fight with the go-ahead Soviet forces and the eastern front medical work praise and armoured units field exercise
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5iVISdC8KY
    sequel and fight with the Soviet army and troops starting for east and assault pioneer units field exercise and motorist infantry on the eastern front
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_iivnC_2OE
    sequel and river crossing on the Dnieper and hussar units returning home and Rapid Deployment Forces returning onto Budapest
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuM81RG2iFU

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    Interesant mod baieti si "succesuri"-oradeanul ar trebui sa stie deja ce spun.....daca desigur mai stie sa vb si limba romana

    in english next time pls or maybe send PM if you dare :P
    i dont see any work just history.


    and of course ROMANIA RULES!
    in time of war ...peace it s dead

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    @Ambrios:
    "I dont see any work just history."
    You see it clearly unfortunately, well that's it.
    Yet!

    "and of course ROMANIA RULES!"
    What do you mean?

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    Solothurn S-18/1000 (cal. 20mm):

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    So everyone will just keep posting pics? When the actual modding starts?

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    I recommend that you must start modding. because we don't just want history here, we want new things.

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    I recommend that you must start modding. because we don't just want history here, we want new things.
    I like History, I also Like learning about it But.
    You want new things, Dont speak for me I can speak for myself. Thank you very much,
    I know that Thiky83 is a good historicist, and I like the Concept and I think a good concept is half the work.

    Maybe I'll do A few gun models to get him started, the rest you have to figure out or call in help tough, As I'm not able to do that.
    When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die.
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    I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
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    hi...I like some of those uniforms,specially the 3 first pictures...and...weapons and frikkin' awesome vehicles!!!
    I support your mod idea here,good luck...if u need any advice or something let me know
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    ?

    Hungary have a lot of territorial intention in Romania and this guy proudly present "the great Hungary army" maybe for remembering who great they are...put if you want let remember some history

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungari...an_War_of_1919

    this is a link with "the great war " between Hungary who invade Romania and ....."of course,the reason it's to {eliberate} some hungarian ethnics" ...maybe Hitler have some inspiration from whis little war?

    Now they want to "free" and to win once again?

    And where it's yours "work once again?
    Hidden?
    Maybe to you want to...have a little luck...and maybe to convince someone to make it for u?


    and again ROMANIA RULES and Transilvania it's full....and it's Romanian Territory and maybe remember (if you are soo good historian - yours ancestors come and STEAL Dac's Land)

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    Leave the politic aside there will be no Hungarians or Romanians weapons for you all!

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    And where it's yours "work once again?
    Hidden?
    Maybe to you want to...have a little luck...and maybe to convince someone to make it for u?
    I recommend that you must start modding. because we don't just want history here, we want new things.
    So everyone will just keep posting pics? When the actual modding starts?

    People please, let him do what he want this is his own project not yours if you want to get it done sooner help him, dont ask when he's going to start he starts when he's going to

    and again ROMANIA RULES and Transilvania it's full....and it's Romanian Territory and maybe remember (if you are soo good historian - yours ancestors come and STEAL Dac's Land)
    This mod is about Hungarian. Not about Romania, if you want a Romanian mod do it yourself.

    Next time I'm going to Call a Moderator and ask him to keep an Eye on this thread.
    -Angelic

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    @Ambrios:
    I not made the topic for talk politics.
    Your grief be looking for an other forum!
    I KNOW that else what is taught at the history at you than at us, and everybody is proud of his own nation. This it would be a basis onto a contrast.
    I reviled nobody if I remember well!
    If you insist on your views have the Germans too exchanged for Romanians then.

    Close!

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    A little support for Thiky83


    Frommer M37 ( Sketch-up model Render would be nicer )

    WARNING LARGE PICTURE!!


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    Nice job!
    Thanx for the first stuff!!

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    Dunavia 39 :

    ( sketch-up model render will look nicer )

    BIG IMAGE


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    Awesome!!

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    BIG IMAGE



    Manlicher 31 ( above, Sketch-up model picture render is nicer )

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    I'm not rushing or anything, it just looks dead, everyone posts pics for a month without any reason. You're not going to use all of the possible equipment the army used then, just the main ones, fitting timeline, production, here everyone posts whatever they can find. Just saying, you can do the internal planing inside and be public on whats done, this looks, like someone said, a history lesson about Hungary in WW2.

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    @Aidas2:
    "just looks dead"
    You write now, when Angelic put up pictures what did he make?
    And
    The pictures that are outside because, if somebody wants to help let him be able choice, what can he make.
    Or let me write what is needed?

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    The models are nice, but I've never seen his models outside of sketchup, is it the mod, the team or just no ability to export them? There is one tool that can export Sketchup models but its not free and a handfull of others that are extremely buggy. One thign is that ppl won't just decide to help or not just because there are tons of pictures that everyone can find whenever they need. You have to show progress, make a team, update, so that others could see that you guys can finish it, then ppl will help.

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    I never drove yet similar project. I don't have any experience.
    I would ask everybody hereby then, that who wishes to help sincerely, let him write a PM, what he can help.
    I announce this in the first post.

    You wrote this:
    "a history lesson about Hungary in WW2"
    I quote from the N44:
    "I've never heard about finnish, romanian, or spanish in WW2."

    I thought that he may be needed after these.

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    As i keep seeing nagging about progress and history lessons.

    Ill make the tanks and armoured cars and trucks ect. But they wont be complete for quite some time, im due to be in hospital for spine\neck surgery within the next 4 to 5 weeks, plus i have comitments\assignments with normandy that are far from finished.

    I also want to know that when ive made them they are not going to be lying around for 2 years waiting for skins and uvmaps plus animation. Otherwise i wont bother and consider it a wasted effort.

    Also a note on the animation front, from what im seing in the pictures the track and bogie arrays plus bogie wheels ect, are far far away from anything used in coh at the moment, so they may well involve completly new animations. Please bare that in mind before you tell me to go for it on the models front.

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    I also want to know that when ive made them they are not going to be lying around for 2 years waiting for skins and uvmaps plus animation. Otherwise i wont bother and consider it a wasted effort.
    That's the problem, ppl think up of epicly amazing mods, but not about the producition, everyone expects alot, but noone is up for the job.

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    The models are nice, but I've never seen his models outside of sketchup
    The Shredder from Titans over Europe is my Beauty, Beside that It's in-game and Fully working only needs a good skin

    That's the problem, ppl think up of epicly amazing mods, but not about the producition, everyone expects alot, but noone is up for the job.
    I totality agree on this, It's so simple to say I'm going to make this and This and let it die out. It's mostly because we have too Complicated tools and not enough experienced people, The reason why i made these models is to see if we can get a bit more attention to the public maybe someone who can get these model in-game, i do not take long on creating a full-gun ( ask Uccido ) if it would take more effort for me to complete a gun I would choose my mods where i help a bit with more caution

    I'd like to see someone who's got the needed experience and tools to help this mod out otherwise it will simply die out... or it will just stick to a simple history lesson.

    as for the part when it's going to die out, I'll just make a thread and publish my gun and see who's intrested but this is a what if scenario.


    Aidas you are tottaly correct about the not being able to export it, that where you got a team for correct?

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    Alarm THREADSLAP

    USE THE F%&$ING REPORT BUTTON

    I'm going to start handing out warnings to people who backseat moderate in these threads, I know you mean well but it's far easier if you just let us know about the problem (i.e. report button), and let us deal with it (a lot quicker if its been reported).


    As for the thread, we don't need the history lessons or debates, unless directly relevant to the mod content (e.g the Hungarian names posted by Thiky83 above), and we don't need discussion on what a mod needs to show under what timeline, so cut it out please

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