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    CoH Online

    I bought CoH with the THQ pack on Steam a while ago but I never installed it. I noticed that it is now free to play CoH online with the ranked system.

    Is this the same as the retail version I have or will I have to download the free version?

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    CoH online will be a total different game. It's basically a CoH vanilla edition without brits and PE + an hero system and huge possibilities to tech
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    If you could balance brits in 2v2 you can start balance the pe in 1v1!

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    Company of Heroes online will be a separate game from standard Company of Heroes. For more info about this game go to www.companyofheroes.com its the official website

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    Just geard about this. IS there any info on what this means for CoH?

    It looks like a watered down version of what we already have. Are they going to kill off coh multiplayer servers, or are they trying to attract people to buy the real thing?

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    Dude, that game is hardly related to the CoH we know so OF or no OF doesn't really matter...

    CoHO isn't really anything you called it Thrud, it's more of a standalone game THQ thinks they can make money with. I doubt that many of the CoH player that are still playing it will abandon CoH for CoHO or many CoHO will start playing CoH after playing CoHO. Look at it as some sort of bastard child Relic introduced to the world
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    I heard (on their forums) that they would be adding British and PE

    It just seems a bit wierd to me. I dont get the business model if its all free, but then CoH is not making money either, unless they plan on more content.

    I just worry that everything Relic is doing seems to be taking the arcade route, and they will do to CoH what they did to DoW.

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    It's not all free, you have a base game and for certain stuff you have to pay. It's a business model that's been working for ages in Asia (mainly on MMORPGs), it's just that companies are trying to bring it to the western world with more or less success.

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    wow. First visit back in a loooooooooong time and still see some old timers posting. Wish they were making a coh2 and not coh online. i miss coh, but heroes of newerth is just to damn fun.
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    Daroach: The release of CoHO doesn't necessarily mean that there's not a CoH2 in development; it's been around for a while, it's just now being released in the western market. CoH2 could very well be in development, or at least somewhere on the drawing boards.
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    We don't really know their plans. But for now CoHO is on the table and as far as i can understand they intend to bring it up to speed with COH meaning OF and ToV.

    And so far the way they intend to get some money is by allowing people to boost the aqquisition of supplies and experience and buy heroic units, albeit you still need to be x level to use them. Plus there is nothing that can be bought that can't be bought with supplies as well.

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    Those soldiers look intimidating though. . .

    Well if you see the other companies they make lots. There is one in California, using that payment, and wooo you'd see how many "pros" have traded some cash man.
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    Daroach: The release of CoHO doesn't necessarily mean that there's not a CoH2 in development; it's been around for a while, it's just now being released in the western market. CoH2 could very well be in development, or at least somewhere on the drawing boards.
    I hope so. I would find it hard to believe that they wouldnt make a coh2.

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    The entire game is free to play. The only money that would have to spend is if you want to actually buy supply points or upgrades as opposed to just earning them ingame.

    So COHO is totally free to play and all of the components are. The paying system is for people who have less time to rank up and want all the goodies.

    Overall from the beta I can say that it has brought me (an old COH player who has played persistancy mods for the last 3 years) back into the game because of COHO.

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    The game is just Company of Heroes really, with something resembling DoW2's random loot system. I don't exactly like it, they've just repackaged the game and stuck a grind on to it. It's nice that it's free and hopefully that'll put more life in to the game, but I can't help thinking that if it's successful the nonsense loot system will carry over to CoH2 which will be annoying.

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    whats a loot system?

    downloading now but quick qu.

    did they fix the pak?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballist1x
    whats a loot system?

    downloading now but quick qu.

    did they fix the pak?

    After every match you can win random loot, which does stuff like increase unit range or health. It's a shitty system, as you'll be matched against higher level players who'll have "better" loot available to them and will have higher upgraded hero's. His Engineers might have garands, more health, faster capping speed etc. Higher levels also get more call-ins's, so for example you might have Stormtroopers, while he has artillery and tank call-ins.

    It in another words removes the entire point of an RTS game, where skill/player ability is the reason you win. Unless the enemy player doesn't know his arse from his elbow you'll lose if he's a much higher level. Stick to the normal game, unless you really have a thing for ability grinding and a system which is based around paying real money for stuff.

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    Great ballistix =D I even wanted to suggest that you should play the CoH:O beta , because you can see how a simple fix to the pack rebalances the whole wehr/us match-up

    Furthermore its nowhere as bad as Nonesuch describes...the abilities you unlock after each match only give a small bonus like 3% more accuracy. At the moment you get matched against high level opponent because there arent a lot of people who play the beta but with my lvl 1 account I've won against several lvl 14 guys even though they had double pershings and stuff.
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    kk cool, well im up to 3 hours eta!

    probably test it out tomorrow, ive been plumbing the depth of mods today but not really found any that i like. i still dont get on with the easter front, dont like blitzkrieg, not sure on botb, and im hoping coho is decent...

    nonesuch i agree with your sentiment, but lets hope its not a case of entering a game where it is almost unwinnable because of the units the other person has access to.

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    kk cool, well im up to 3 hours eta!

    probably test it out tomorrow, ive been plumbing the depth of mods today but not really found any that i like. i still dont get on with the easter front, dont like blitzkrieg, not sure on botb, and im hoping coho is decent...

    nonesuch i agree with your sentiment, but lets hope its not a case of entering a game where it is almost unwinnable because of the units the other person has access to.
    be warned 3 hours useally means 15 hours...

    they using a very slow download system and the peir to peir system very poor atm rather than a typical 1 file download then use a client to install updates they put the whole thing into a client.

    im in uk and i was downloading at MB but like everyone else it now allways KPS and around 60-70, it has been downloading for around 10+hours now and still have 4 to go....this is with 10mb DL speed and perfect ports.

    just be ready to wait long time, and not be able to use internet as you may want to use it due to uploading speed being destroyed by download

    off to a bad start id say, they should of used single file download, or not bothered using peir to peir....relic p2p for coh is very good shame coh online isnt

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    i know i thought my internet was super slow wehen downloading.


    it says 3 hours but it flciks between 17 and 3 but its only 2.3gb to go...

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    [/QUOTE]i know i thought my internet was super slow wehen downloading.


    it says 3 hours but it flciks between 17 and 3 but its only 2.3gb to go...[QUOTE]

    lol im finally on 900mb yay, tbh it a joke that they didnt short this out during their testing phase,

    on the game though i think the concept good and the progression system looks very interesting though the tag free i think is more a lure to get players online then hit them with slow progression unless they pay will anoy many i recon.

    many free games are failed by the pay per play or pay for item systems like battlefied free games by EA.

    good free games useally use advertise to make money then leave the game for players to balance rather than unbalance with items and pay for items like many games now tend to use

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    hm but if relic gave me some credit for owning COH, OF and TOV then maybe i could afford to play and not pay any more and still have decent units from the start,

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    hm but if relic gave me some credit for owning COH, OF and TOV then maybe i could afford to play and not pay any more and still have decent units from the start,
    Word on the street is that there are bonuses/incentives for those whom own the original 3 games, because of them being long lasting fans.
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    From the first Q&A:

    What will happen to players of the original COH / support for the original COH when this comes out?

    It is of the utmost importance to us that we continue to support the players who helped make Company of Heroes great. We will be maintaining the current servers for the foreseeable future, so players can continue to engage in multiplayer matches in Company of Heroes, Opposing Fronts, and Tales of Valor. We will also be unveiling unique rewards in Company of Heroes Online for our loyal fanbase in the near future. We will definitely continue to support these players.

    and from this interview on PCgamer:

    As Greg says, “we are urging people to hang onto their CD keys, we don’t have the details yet, but we really appreciate our current retail CoH fanbase, we love them and we recognise that they helped us get where we are today with this franchise. We want to make sure they feel appreciated, so there will be something special for people who are retail owners. News of that will come.”

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    As Greg says, “we are urging people to hang onto their CD keys, we don’t have the details yet, but we really appreciate our current retail CoH fanbase, we love them and we recognise that they helped us get where we are today with this franchise. We want to make sure they feel appreciated, so there will be something special for people who are retail owners. News of that will come.”
    THIS IS WHAT WE WANTED TO HEAR!!!


    have had all the dow+coh games sinse start and the coh online i felt was going to instant kill the game.

    I been playing for a bit and the hero units and buffs really do kinda make it unbalance in many ways though it does feel like a differant game.

    i think coh online will mean we need to remake all the tactics we use in coh like rifleman and PE spams as online coh most of them dont work exactly how you planned them too.

    example i tried rifleman spam and it nearly failed.
    The germans have buffs for units and for example one buff gives all MG teams a defence buff or attack buff which really does kill your rifleman tactics of throwing nades at them.

    another buff is for their volks and grens stopping supression, there goes the bar...

    I only won my online game thanks to tanks and spamming shemans which i must add arent much like COH asthe german buffs for shreaks is CRAZY, had them shooting about 2.5 times faster than normal coh.

    my point is coh is many ways the old dog now, the new dogs in town and everyone wants to pat it, but we all know everyone in the end goes backl to the old trusted dog

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    see im all up for a bit of customisation

    but seriously shreks firing more rounds than before?

    another buff is for their volks and grens stopping supression, there goes the bar...
    there goes the bar and the 0.30 - oh wait they could already go straight into a 0.30 anyway and then just nade it out. i guess that is the final nail in the m3 coffin too with more shreks and less suppression for inf on top.


    Imperial Dane are you in some kind of official, or semi official capacity now with relic? as i noticed u running some threads on the coho installer forum too?

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    Anyone else having to install Net framework 4 profile? O.o

    Btw, its 10GB? Downloading @ 14MB/Sec

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    Yup, it was mentioned as one of the things you could download in preperation for CoHO right before the beta began

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    Company of Heroes Online is now open to everyone (beta) ! - it is FREE !

    http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions...landing-b.aspx

    come join us.
    it is way more fun that COH retail.
    they seemed to have removed what i didn't like about COH and added very cool persistence and other cool new features.

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    Thanks for info!
    I am already installing it for 5 and half hour and installation is still far away from successful end... (showing estimated time from 7 to 15 hours :-( )
    First 2 hours were about patching my CoH when my computer was totally useless. All the performance was consumed by this...
    I went sleep for some hours and install process is still running.
    Performance of my PC is back but this time is useless my internet connection. I think its p2p download system...
    Its most annoying install process of my life. I hope that game will be worth of it.
    I must recommend to start installation late evening to everyone...
    Relic (or THQ) should improve installation process. Its really terrible!

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    I just got my beta key! Actually, I think it's a closed beta, so only chosen members of companyofheroes.com get to have a key.

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    I know I got my beta key from GamesRadar. I was quite pleased to see that one!

    I've no idea if they still have keys but it's surely worth a shot. I've got the game installed in a few hours but didn't get a chance to try it out yet.

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    Got a key too, but I can't play because my crappy lenovo laptop broke down for the bazillionth time. But anyway I hope this will unite all coh player from differents mods and versions and no british!!!!! good old times!

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    i wondering is relic in any way offically part of coh online? coh is their game pretty much but due to it being online do they have any controle over the game and things like balance and way it is showed?

    on that issue, if relic is part of game would it be possible to have a sub forum for coh online as the offical forums for coh online are pretty badly done i think as many people posting in them thinking coh online is coh when it pretty much isnt.

    just asking as im sure many more topics will be posted about coh online and i feel relics forum and community is the best place for them to be

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    be warned coh online is pretty ugly at times and i will bet you will be at times shocked by the changes.

    some things in coh online are quite a lot differant from coh, i still havnt quite worked out how on earth the ability system even supposed to be working as of yet i allready miss the tech tree system of command points.

    dont even mention the hero units when im a rifleman trying to supress unsupressable volks--.--

    it takes around 20 hours to download if you have 10mb speed broadband i found on avg

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    I think all the beta keys are gone by now... BTW, where did you guys get your keys? I got mine from Raptr.

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    It's still a beta, so it's bound to have bugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ContractHitman
    i wondering is relic in any way offically part of coh online? coh is their game pretty much but due to it being online do they have any controle over the game and things like balance and way it is showed?

    on that issue, if relic is part of game would it be possible to have a sub forum for coh online as the offical forums for coh online are pretty badly done i think as many people posting in them thinking coh online is coh when it pretty much isnt.

    just asking as im sure many more topics will be posted about coh online and i feel relics forum and community is the best place for them to be
    The official Relic forums for CoH Online are at http://www.companyofheroes.com/forums along with the official forums for CoH. If your question was about whether we are going to have a new CoHO subforum here at RelicNews the answer is most likely yes, we are currently discussing it in the staff forums.

    Until we get something new in place, discussions about CoH Online are welcome in our current CoH sub-forums.


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    I'm going to merge the two threads about CoH Online together since the discussions in them are about the same things.

    I have also deleted some posts with horror stories about how long it takes to download. Yes, it sucks that it is so slow, but posting running commentaries here about how long it is taking to download for you won't make it happen any faster.

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    good to know we wellcome to discuss this here, the offical forums are rather bleak at the moment and a lot of foren topics from china

    does anyone know on the subject of heros where there is a video of page which will exsplain them fully balance wise, ie how to counter tham and counter the item buffs.

    Mainly ask as so far finding playing as rifleman+infi commander very hard compared to normal coh where a good rifleman spam+bars can hold early game where with coh online i finding it pretty much impossible atm, add the fact the art is a lot slower and exspencive it kinda makes infi command dead .

    tips be great

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    ofc the NDA will stop a lot but hopefully soon we can get a coh online sub forum that we can start up as im pretty sure coh online might easly turn into a larger game than coh.

    from what it seems the coh online could become the main game people play if it catches on

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    Fileplanet still has beta keys for anyone willing to sign up to their service, which is free.

    For more information as to how the game works I recommend you check out the official site and the forums on there or better yet get yourself on the beta and enjoy the game

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    IGN has a write up of early impressions;

    http://au.pc.ign.com/articles/111/1110461p1.html

    Disappointing to hear the auto-match doesn't really work but understandable if there's a limited player base. Hopefully they'll refine this system, maybe introduce handi-caps for heavily lop-sided match ups.

    Don't like the sounds of those volks immune to suppression ! Hope that comes with some draw backs...ie.dying

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    Don't like the sounds of those volks immune to suppression ! Hope that comes with some draw backs...ie.dying
    like i said before in posts some will be shcoked by the changes done to game, personally i feel the following.

    If coh online has items buffs and hero units, then the importance of a good match maing system/automatch is more important than ever due to the nature of these items and heros.

    point it the automatch system is failing a lot, so makes all 1vs1 games pretty much IMBA from the start, given the hero units and item bufs, in most games you know within the first 3mins if you won or lost.

    shocking i know, but example of one hero unit coming out is volks with mp40s allready as soon as they start, pretty much ruins the game from the start when you only have rifleman shooting them.

    needs a LOT of work to be upto the same lvl as coh normal, though team games are useally better

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    mp40 volks?! with no suppression?

    relic you have created a monster!

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    Ive played Company of heroes:Online a lot recently and I have to say that I probably wont come back to normal CoH (if they add PE in near future =D )

    Heroes: There are no volks that are immune to suppression...the volks that start out with mp40's are even easier to supress.
    Heroes are quite balanced as far as I can see , especially because both sides will have them.
    The most important thing about them: They can be stopped like every other unit in the game by their natural counter.

    The new doctrines are awesome and allow strats you wouldnt have thought of in vCoh.

    Matchmaking is...lets say not so good. The reason for this is (hopefully) the small player base of CoH:O at the moment.

    Overall it makes a pretty solid impression there are a few imbalances here and there because of the new doctrine abilities but hey...its a beta overall. I cant judge yet about high level matches...if you reach level 50 and youve got every abilty of you doctrine fully upgraded they may end up too strong...but I wont try to reach the level cap just to start over again once the beta is finished =)

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    so do u get rifles who start life with BARS or SMGs or Bazookas?

    this system if based soley upon individual upgrades is inherantly bias towards the wehr and PE and against the US because all of the US upgrades are universal so u wont get BAR rifle start for instance. or rifles with grenades? or will you?"?!?

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